The false prophets are now claiming we can know the day but not the hour because Messiah Yeshua, in a couple of verses, says 'for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.' and 'for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh' --- they say Messiah Yeshua used 'hour' and said nothing about 'day' so they CAN know the day of the rapture (so why have they been wrong thousands of times before - even as recently as this week???) They conveniently leave out a verse in the same passage (Matthew 24) :
50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
I guess they believe they can get away with their scripture twisting and selective quoting of bible verses --- while continuing to conjure up wrong "rapture" date after wrong "rapture" date. Wonder what they will say if november 15th comes and goes without the rapture??? (I fully expect Messiah Yeshua to return each and every day and He may return before tomorrow ---- november 15th is the LEAST likely day He will return because of the false prophets and their false prophecies although it could happen then so they will realize how wicked they are when they are left behind)
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Jerry Grenough (1 Nov 2007) "GOD'S CRYPTOGRAM REVEALED: 11/15/08 RAPTURE"
GOD'S CRYPTOGRAM REVEALED
11/15/08 RAPTURE
Shortly after fighting ended on 10 June 1967, Jewish bulldozers destroyed over 135 homes in the Magharbeh (Moroccan) neighborhood (directly in front of the Western Wall and the Dome of the Rock) (figure 4) to make way for a plaza. The Palestinian inhabitants were forced to leave in several hours, and their houses were dynamited. In the wake of this destruction, 650 Palestinians were left homeless. Within two days, the entire neighborhood had been demolished. Between 10-11 June 1967, the Sharaf neighborhood was eradicated, as well. Two mosques and 700 buildings (including 1,840 apartments which housed approximately 6,000 Palestinians and 437 shops which supported 700 laborers) were demolished. A collection of houses and businesses were constructed on that spot, which was re-named the Jewish Quarter. On 22 June 1967, the Jewish state formally annexed occupied East Jerusalem by extending over the city the law, jurisdiction and administration of the State of Israel despite strong opposition from Palestinians and the international community who declared the annexation illegal.
http://www.poica.org/editor/case_studies/view.php?recordID=602
FLASHBACK TO SIR ISAAC NEWTON
Standing on the Shoulders of Giants (COURTESY OF TED PORTER)
There is usually at least one original overriding idea in many great books. Sir Isaac Newton's well written book, "The Prophecies of Daniel and the Apocalypse", (originally published in 1733) may contain many but one of the greatest was the following assertion. That regarding Daniel's 70 week prophecy, the 62 weeks from the commandment to rebuild Jerusalem related to Christ's first coming and the 7 weeks from the commandment to rebuild Jerusalem relates directly to Christ's second coming. Quoting from the revised edition published in 1998 by Printland Publishers, Hyberadad, India, starting at the bottom of page 132.
Know also and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to cause to return and to build Jerusalem, unto the Anointed the Prince, shall be seven weeks. The former part of the Prophecy related to the first coming of Christ, being dated to his coming as a Prophet; this being dated to his coming to be Prince or King, seems to relate to his second coming. There, the Prophet was consummate, and the most holy anointed; here, he that was anointed; comes to be Prince and reign. For Daniel's prophecies reach to the end of the world, and there is scarce a prophecy in the Old Testament, concerning Christ, which doth not in something or other relate to his second coming. If divers of the ancients, as Irenaus, Julius Africanus, Hippolytus the martyr, and Apollinaris Bishop of Laodicea, applied the half week to the times of Antichrist, why may not we, by the same liberty of interpretation, apply the seven weeks to the time when Antichrist shall be destroyed by the brightness of Christ's coming.
Very well said.
Likewise is Sir Robert Anderson's groundbreaking book on Daniel titled "The Coming Prince" (1895). One original overriding idea is in the evidence presented that the first part of Daniel's prophecy of Christ's first coming as King of Kings was fulfilled to the exact day. This brought us to what we celebrate as Palm Sunday, the Sunday before His passion when He entered Jerusalem as King of Kings but was later rejected that same day. One simply had to substitute, using the conversion used in Revelation, 360 days for each of the days represented in the 70 week prophecy of Daniel regarding the 7 and 62 weeks total. (The days represent years and the years contain 360 days.)
Now, standing on the shoulders of these giants and creating a synthesis of these two original ideas to create a third. That is, the modern day commandment to rebuild Jerusalem occurred when the Nation of Israel captured Jerusalem on June 7, 1967. Jerusalem was annexed on June 22, 1967. Rebuilding has indeed occurred since that time in Jerusalem. Adding 7 weeks or in other words 49 years of 360 days from June 22, 1967 brings one to exactly October 10, 2015. Would this not be the fulfillment of prophecy for Christ to return as the King of Kings "when Antichrist shall be destroyed by the brightness of Christ's coming"?
Duration calculation results
From and including: Saturday, November 15, 2008To, but not including : Saturday, October 10, 2015
It is 2520 days from the start date to the end date, but not including the end date
Or 6 years, 10 months, 25 days excluding the end date
THIS IS THE TRIANGULATION PROOF WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR, IF WE HAVE A SCRIPTURAL BASIS FOR NOVEMBER 15, 2008 – WHICH MARILYN AGEE PROVIDES US WITH!
FLASH FORWARD TO MARILYN AGEE
Marilyn Agee (29 Oct 2008) "WE CAN KNOW THE DAY OF THE RAPTURE, Cheshvan 17, Nov. 15, 08"
From Marilyn Agee
Re: WE CAN KNOW THE DAY OF THE RAPTURE, Cheshvan 17, Nov. 15, 08
WE CAN KNOW THE DAY
"THE DAY THAT NOE ENTERED INTO THE ARK...SO SHALL ALSO THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN BE"
THAT'S CHESHVAN 17 FOLKS
JESUS SAID, "TAKE YE HEED: BEHOLD, I HAVE FORETOLD YOU ALL THINGS" (Mark 13:23)
By Marilyn Agee, posted 10-27-08
I'm no prophet, but it now seems that Jesus himself gave us the last clue we need a long time ago. It's so plain in Matthew 24, I don't know why I didn't get it before this. I knew it was in Scripture, but I looked everywhere but the right place, in plain view. I should have known that in plain view was the best place to hide something. What threw me off was Mt. 24:36, where Jesus said, "But of that DAY AND HOUR knoweth no man". After so many reminded me of that so many times, I skimmed over what followed it. Look what he said in verse 42: "Watch therefore: for ye know not what HOUR your Lord doth come." HE LEFT OUT THE DAY. In case we missed it, he even repeated it. in verse 44, he said, "Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an HOUR as ye think not the Son of man cometh." HE LEFT OUT THE DAY. That means that in between verses 36 and 44, Jesus revealed the DAY, Cheshvan 17, "THE DAY THAT NOE ENTERED INTO THE ARK." The wise virgins are not in the dark as to the DAY, just the hour. The foolish virgins don't know the day or the hour. Jesus put the day in plain view. I have read it over and over without realizing that in verses 42 and 44, he didn't say DAY AND HOUR, only HOUR (hora). Mt. 24:32-45 (KJV) says, "Now learn a parable of the fig tree (Israel, Joel 1:6,7); When his branch (klados, scion broken off for grafting, i.e., modern Israel) is yet tender (apalos, young, i.e., no more than 19, which she was in 1967), and putteth forth leaves (Gaza Strip, Sinai, Golen Heights, West Bank, in the Six-Day War of 1967), ye know that summer is nigh (the war started June 5; summer arrived June 21): So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it ('the kingdom of God', Luke 21:31) is near, even at the DOORS (symbol of the Raptures, as in Rev. 3:8, 4:1). Verily (amen, so be it, firm, trustworthy) I say unto you, This generation (i.e., those born in 1967) shall not pass (1967 + 48 = 2015), till all these things (i.e., both Raptures) be fulfilled." It looks like the 2nd Rapture will be in 2015 (Tishri 1, 5776). The 1st Rapture will be 7 years before that, i.e., in 5769. This year started on Tishri 1, 5769 (Sept. 30, 2008). I thought the 1st Rapture would be that day, but I had something else to learn, and that is found in this passage of Scripture. Read on. Continuing in Mt. 24, the Olivet Discourse, Jesus said, "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. But of that DAY AND HOUR knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. But AS THE DAYS OF NOE WERE, SO SHALL ALSO THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN BE. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until THE DAY THAT NOE ENTERED INTO THE ARK (Cheshvan 17), And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; SO SHALL ALSO THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN BE. Then (note, at the same time, i.e., on Cheshvan 17, 5769; November 15, 2008) shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Watch therefore: for ye know not what HOUR (hora) your Lord doth come. But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an HOUR (hora) as ye think not the Son of man cometh. Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in DUE SEASON (kairos, set time)?" Lev 26:2-4 says, "Ye shall keep my SABBATHS, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD. If ye walk in my statutes, and keep my commandments, and do them; Then I WILL GIVE YOU RAIN IN DUE SEASON, and the land shall yield her increase, and the trees (i.e., nations) of the field (i.e., world) shall yield their FRUIT." We are called a kind of firstfruits. James 1:18 says, "Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be A KIND OF FIRSTFRUITS of his creatures." Cheshvan 17, 5769 (Nov. 15, 2008) is on Saturday, the Sabbath. IN MARK, THE PORTER DOESN'T KNOW THE HOUR, BUT HE KNOWS THE DAY Mark 13:33-37 says, "Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time (kairos, set time, due time) is. For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch. WATCH YE THEREFORE: FOR YE KNOW NOT WHEN THE MASTER OF THE HOUSE COMETH, AT EVEN, OR AT MIDNIGHT, OR AT THE COCKCROWING, OR IN THE MORNING: Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping. And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch." At even, midnight, cockcrowing, or morning is describing the hour. The porter already knows the day. THE SON OF MAN IS REVEALED AT THE TIME OF THE SECOND RAPTURE Luke 17:28-30 says, "Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed." The Sign of the Son of Man will be seen in the sky as the Day of God's Wrath begins. He will be sitting on his throne, because the judgment will be made at the Judgment Seat of Christ that day. The Pre-Wrath Rapture will take place just before God's Wrath hits Earth. Again, we can figure out the day, but not the hour. There will be a Solar Eclipse a little past 6 PM on our previous day, when this Jewish day starts. I think it will be the Feast of Trumpets, Tishri 1, 5776 (Sept. 14, 2015). It can't be later than 2015, because 1967 + 48 (Mt. 1:17) = 2015
Agape,Marilyn Ageemjagee@verizon.nethttp://prophecycorner.com/agee/index.html
MATTHEW 24
34Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
35Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
36But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
45Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
46Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
47Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.
48But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
49And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
50The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
51And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
TRIANGULATION OF A COMPLEX THEOREM AS ABOVE IS PROOF OF ITS VALIDITY ONLY THE LORD ALMIGHTY COULD HAVE SET UP A CRYPTOGRAM OF THIS NATURE, READY TO BE SOLVED AND REVEALED AT THE VERY END OF DAYS BEFORE THE RAPTURE
NOAH HAD ONE WEEK OF PRECISE WARNING. WE HAVE A BETTER COVENANT. WE HAVE AS OF TODAY APPROXIMATELY TWO WEEKS OF WARNING - SIGNALS FROM CIRCUMSTANCES CONFIRM - THANKS JOHN & DOVES FOR CONTINUAL UPDATES ON THE AC, MIDEAST WAR, MIDEAST PEACE, AND ECONOMICS.
Jerry Grenough
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