Marilyn Agee is now doubting that she and her followers can know the day as she boldly claimed they could a few short weeks ago. She went from saying the rapture WOULD take place on november 15, 2008 to now saying COULD take place on november 15, 2008:
Therefore, the Pre-Trib Rapture could take place on the anniversary of the day Noah entered the Ark, Cheshvan 17, Nov. 15 in 2008.
Why can't she admit she lied or was wrong and that we cannot know the day just like Messiah Yeshua said??? She boldly claimed she had it figured out - but is now saying it only could happen (it could happen today even - yet the false prophets are not watching today because today's date does not fit their numerology schemes)
Note she also teaches that there will be two raptures - I guess that is so the false prophets can explain why they were left behind during the first one???
II Tim 4:3-4
"For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own likings, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander into myths"
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Marilyn Agee (11 Nov 2008) ""Randy Larson (10 Nov 2008) "MULTIPLE RAPTURES""
From: Marilyn Agee
Re: Randy Larson (10 Nov 2008) "MULTIPLE RAPTURES"
> > Two questions I have concerning the concept of more than one rapture: > > The two passages concerning the rapture with which I am most familiarare in 1st Corinthians 15 and in Paul's two letters to the Thessalonians.The "dead in Christ" are to rise first, prior to the ascension of the living.First: How does that work if you're going to have two or more raptures?Second: Where is the scriptural support for more than one such event?
Hi:
As I understand it, the dead in Christ that belong to the Bride-of-Christ group will be raised at the first Rapture. Heb 11:40 says, "God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect."
Those that belong to the Last-Rapture group will be raised at the time of the last Rapture. Dan 12:1,2 says, "And at that time (when the False Prophet is deposed from office; Dan. 11:45) shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a TIME OF TROUBLE, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people (i.e., the 144,000 Israelites; Rev. 7) shall be delivered (malaṭ, escape), every one that shall be found written in the book. And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt."
I think the next major prophetic event is the Pre-Trib Rapture. Luke 21:36 says, "Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy TO ESCAPE ALL THESE THINGS THAT SHALL COME TO PASS, AND TO STAND BEFORE THE SON OF MAN." The wise virgins, the Bride of Christ, are to escape ALL the shortened 2300-day Tribulation (Dan. 8:13,14). I think this Tribulation will start next Pentecost, May 29, 2009. Therefore, the Pre-Trib Rapture could take place on the anniversary of the day Noah entered the Ark, Cheshvan 17, Nov. 15 in 2008.There are two Raptures, one before the 2300-day shortened Tribulation, the other, the Pre-Wrath Rapture, on the last day of that Tribulation. The first Rapture is as the days of Noah. He went into the Ark and the Lord closed the door on Cheshvan 17 (next Saturday, Nov. 15, 2008). I think the Last-trump Rapture will be on the Feast of Trumpets, Sept. 14, 2015 (1967 + 48 [a ganeration, Mt. 1:17] = 2015). That seems to be the Day of God's Wrath.
The last Rapture is as the days of Lot. The same day he left Sodom, destruction by an asteroid impact hit Earth. It split the Earth from Syria to Lake Nyasa in Africa. We call that split the Great Rift Valley. The only other split that can be compared to that one is the Mid-Atlantic Rift.The first Rapture is for the Bride of Christ. The last Rapture is for the Tribulation saints. I Thess. 4:13-18 is the First Trump Rapture. I Cor. 15:51-54 is the Last Trump Rapture.
FIRST TRUMP
1Thess. 4:13-18 says, "I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren (believers), concerning them which are asleep (i.e., the dead in Christ), that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with THE TRUMP OF GOD (i.e., first trump): and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words."
These saints are seen in Heaven in Rev. 5:9. It says, "And they sung a NEW SONG, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood OUT OF EVERY KINDRED, AND TONGUE, AND PEOPLE, AND NATION."
Luke 12:46 says, "The lord of that servant (the foolish one) will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder (lit., cut him off), and will appoint him his portion (the shortened Tribulation) with the unbelievers."Mt. 24:51 adds, "And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion (the shortened Tribulation) with the hypocrites (pretenders): there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
Of the time of the Pre-Trib Rapture, Rev 17:12-14 says, "And the ten horns which thou sawest are TEN KINGS, WHICH HAVE RECEIVED NO KINGDOM AS YET; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and THEY THAT ARE WITH HIM ARE CALLED, AND CHOSEN, AND FAITHFUL." The foolish ones not wearing white wedding garments will be cast outside the first Rapture door. Mt. 22:14 says, "For many are called, but few are chosen." The Bride is "called, and chosen, and faithful." Therefore, she is with Christ before the 10 kings receive their kingdoms.
LAST TRUMP
1Cor 15:51-53 says, "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST TRUMP: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality."The Tribulation saints are seen in Heaven in Rev. 7:0,14,15: "After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, OF ALL NATIONS, AND KINDREDS, AND PEOPLE, AND TONGUES, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands...THESE ARE THEY WHICH CAME OUT OF GREAT TRIBULATION, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple".
144,000 of these seem to be added to the Bride of Christ group. The 144,000 are Israelites, and they are the only ones that can sing the NEW SONG at the 2nd Rapture. Rev. 14:3-5 says, "And they sung as it were a NEW SONG before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins (i.e., wise virgins at the 2nd Rapture). These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God." It looks like it takes missing the first Rapture to wise them up that Jesus is their Messiah. They seem to be given a 2nd chance, because they are partially blinded until the first Rapture takes place.The Bride wears white. At the time of the Rapture, the Bride saints have on white robes. They are the Philadelphian church for whom Christ has no words of condemnation. They are ready, because they have used I John 1:9 and confessed their sins. It says, "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." The Tribulation saints have to confess their sins committed after they accepted Christ to wash their spotted robes in the blood of Christ to make them white. All old sins are wiped off the slate when we accept Christ as our own personal Saviour. All sins committed after that have to be confessed. That is why Jesus washed Peter's feet. In John 13:3-10, Jesus explained foot washing. "Jesus knowing that the Father had given all things into his hands, and that he was come from God, and went to God; He riseth from supper, and laid aside his garments; and took a towel, and girded himself. After that he poureth water into a bason, and began to wash the disciples' feet, and to wipe them with the towel wherewith he was girded. Then cometh he to Simon Peter: and Peter saith unto him, Lord, dost thou wash my feet? Jesus answered and said unto him, What I do thou knowest not now; but thou shalt know hereafter. Peter saith unto him, Thou shalt never wash my feet. Jesus answered him, IF I WASH THEE NOT, THOU HAST NO PART WITH ME. Simon Peter saith unto him, Lord, not my feet only, but also my hands and my head. Jesus saith to him, He that is washed needeth not save to wash his feet, but is clean every whit: and ye are clean".
Agape,Marilyn Ageemjagee@verizon.nethttp://prophecycorner.com/agee/index.html
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