Saturday, August 30, 2008

Gary Rich - alienates people from Yeshua

Many years people have falsely claimed would be the rapture and went and told unbelievers. Many of those unbelievers accepted Messiah Yeshua and when the rapture did not happen, they abandoned their new faith because of the false prophecies and rejected Messiah Yeshua because He and Christianity could no longer be trusted. They believed and they were deceived - and were never to believe again. The false prophets will be held accountable for these souls.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/garyr830.htm

And if as many believe - our rapture flight is in September - what more important thing can we be doing now than sharing the salvation message of Jesus Christ with the lost
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Frank R Molver - racist antichrist

Comparing people to rats is satanic. Just because the american economy is becoming worse and the united states is cracking down on undoccumented workers is no reason to think people returning to their own countries is a conspiracy. It is extremely racist to compare these people to rats.

I am extremely offended that this was posted on the five demons ("doves") site yet the owner, John Tng, sees no problem with it.

Maybe the countries where there are undoccumented U.S. workers need to deport "those rats" back to the united states.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/frankm830-4.htm

Economics or something more sinister at work here. Keep tabs on other foreign nationals returning to their own country. Rats always leave a sinking ship.
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Friday, August 29, 2008

Steve Bacon "A little sin is better than a big sin"

Or maybe my not voting is giving a vote to mccain? How is not voting a vote for obama? Is he running the voting machines this year?

The false prophets try and make you feel guilty for not voting for any resemblence of evil even if it is "less evil". The same type of false prophets justify their sin by saying "my sin is not that bad - I didn't murder anyone" and other such justification for their continued wickedness.

If you vote for evil (even "less evil") you are still voting for evil. Just like if you sin ("just a little sin") you are still sinning. Do not let the false prophets bully you into compromising your beliefs!

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/steveb829.htm
Steve Bacon (29 Aug 2008) "RE: Mark K...VOTE"
I agree with you Mark... I don't like either candidate but This person is going to run our country and I would rather VOTE for someone that :doesn't want to kill babiessupports Israel Keeps my taxes lowetc...I would love to vote for a God loving and God fearing candidate but we didn't get one...Not voting Is the same as voting, believe it or not... Not voting for John is really giving one vote to Obama.

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Mark Copfer - Ascension Island earthquake a "sign" ???

What Mark Copfer does not tell you is that the Ascension Islands have frequent earthquakes - so how is this ironic? and what is he predicting (without actually saying he is predicting anything) ??? And why is he ignoring all the hundreds of other earthqukes that has happened the past few days??? I cannot believe he thinks this is any significance whatsoever (never mind he ignored the 30 4.+ earthquakes on Vancouver Island in the past 72 hours and the "ooooh" Virgin Island earthquake [doesn't that mean Yeshua was born of a virgin and G-d is "confirming it with earthquakes" --- or other such foolishness???] ) ..... Or maybe if another earthquake hits either the easter islands or christmas islands then the rapture will be on those dates? If so, why did not the rapture occur in past years those islands had earthquakes???

Messiah Yeshua said the deception would be great in the last days and one only needs to see the false prophets and false prophecies of the so-called Christian site five demons ("doves") to see that is true

FYI: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.php

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/markc829-1.htm
Mark Copfer (29 Aug 2008) "Ascension Island Quake ? How Ironic!!"
What a coincidence, this is just a few minutes ago... A Large Earthquake, 6.2 mag just occurred NORTH OF ASCENSION ISLAND

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Marie Komar - demonic dominionist; "voting for evil is Christian"

In Marie Komar's "opinion" conquering is the same as occupying. The dictionary (definitions in biblical context) says differently:

Dictionary definitions:

oc·cu·py 1.to take or fill up (space, time, etc.): I occupied my evenings reading novels.

con·quer 1.to acquire by force of arms; win in war: to conquer a foreign land.

Where in the bible does it say to compromise with evil even if that evil is less than another choice? My bible says to obstain from ANY appearance of evil. Of course, Marie Komar thinks her opinion is more important what the bible says.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/mariek829.htm

In my humble opinion, to occupy is to conquer for the Lord in order to facilitate His directive; to keep evil at bay while we carve out a remnant for the Body of Christ.
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And that is why, Sir, since there are only one of two winnable choices to be made in this November's election, I will do my part to successfully expedite the election of the "lesser of two evils".
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Thursday, August 28, 2008

Frank R Molver - defends demon possessed false prophet (and adulterer) todd bentley

Frank R Molver defends tattooed false prophet adulters instead of seeing them for the demon possessed false prophets that they are. The bible says once someone is shown to be a false prophet, you are not to listen to them again

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/frankm828-5.htm

Please don't make this an I told you so thing. The book of Daniel speaks about those ministers who will be taken handicapped by satan but will rise back up more powerful. Lessons learned. I am not saying he is innocent by any means. But I am saying be careful not to judge least you too fall. I have seen the good and the bad in this situation. There definitely is good fruit but there is some carelessness too. I listen to his prayer cd's a lot lately, they are very deep. But he is a young man with lots of unbridled enthusiasm. What bothers me is that when there is a good anointed leader yes men surround them and they fall because no one has the guts to say what is right. Little humility and too much leaning on some one else.
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false prophet Kelly Herman "proves" her own prophecies

false prophet Kelly Herman can prove her own prophecies - so everyone better just accept them without even looking at scripture (so she teaches) Unfortunately she did not prove it with scripture or she would have seen it is false.

All new agers think their spirit guide (demon) is the truth too. Kelly Herman is no different.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/kellyh828.htm

I will stand on this vision and know it's source as being from The Lord Himself. I have proofed it and reproofed it myself before putting it out there. The mass populous belief in the message is not of concern to me. The command I was given was to "SPEAK IT FORTH". I have done what I have been told to do in obedience and my faith will stand and will never falter.
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false prophet Tony Ellsworth has deceived a follower into believing his false prophecies

All false prophets need are deceived followers

Not only is false prophet Tony Ellsworth a self centered deceiving false prophet, he has followers. I guess all discernment on five demons ("doves") is completely dead.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/leahb828.htm

Leah Blewer (28 Aug 2008) "Tony Ellsworth"

Wow Tony!!! The flight deck on Rosh Hashanah 1989 -- the Lunar Cycles every 19 years!!! What significant events!!! You were born for such a time as this!! Thank you for sharing with us!!! 19 Years Later!!!Thanks also for the article about Obama's Ancient Greek Temple stage. It looks like there's no such thing as understated elegance anymore...I thought his daughter's were very ill-mannered on the DNC stage when they were allowed to scream into the micro-phone after their mother's speech. I did not find such behavior cute in the least. The Kennedy era in the 60's with their well-behaved children are definitely and unfortunately -- a thing of the past. (with the exception of my own daughter of course - I beat her with a stick and kept her on a leash) -- Just kidding -- about the stick part, anyway.Needless to say I'm disappointed to see that Caroline is all grown up and now supports NObama.P.S. -- Once in 1968 -- my little brother somehow found a harmonica in my sister's purse while we were sitting in church and he thought it would be fun to blow really forcefully into it -- while the Pastor was preaching. Of course several people laughed at the unexpected surprise - but I thought my parents were going to crawl beneath the pews and die the death of a dog -- let's just say they were a tad-bit humiliated. Now do you see why he got his "other" nickname???? It's just another reason among so many. Now for those of you who do not know -- my brother was born 8/6/66. My sister and I still, occasionally call him by his initials -- AC (not his real initials - just kidding).See ya' in the sky!!

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Denis Hart - another hurricane name false prophet

Yet another buddhist on the five demons ("doves") who thinks the names of the hurricanes is prophetically significant and ties to the biblical names,

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/denish828.htm

HURRICANE NAMES
Thanks to doves for the most interesting insights into hurricane names, especially Gustav (Staff of the Lord!) that looks like heading towards the East Coast of the United States. Just a couple of thoughts. Recently I read the following about Cristobal - meaning He who carries Christ in his heart, Christ bearer. On another website (open Heaven) they mentioned that in a news take the banner at the bottom of the screen said: ‘Waiting for Cristobal’ - not realising that what was really being said was ‘Waiting for he who has Christ in his heart!’ Beautiful! The next named hurricane will be Hanna. We shouldn’t jump head - but Hannah is the mother of Samuel, the last judge of Israel and a prophet/priest – and the one who anointed David! Hanna has the same origins as the Anna in Annapolis (named after Princess Anne) and is also close to the last part of Rosh Hashanah. Something to look forward to! And for those in Asia, it is interesting that the typhoon that ripped through Hong Kong near the end of the Olympics was named Nuri is an anagram of ruin!

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Wednesday, August 27, 2008

Bruce Warner - "Who cares if prophets fail, they may be right next time"

I cannot believe that anyone would be as flipant to say "who cares if the false prophets failed, it gives them a better chance of being right next time"

Since they were wrong, they are false prophets and if they are "right next time" it is only because they predict so many dates that one of them could be right just by chance.

This is the type of garbage that gives Christianity a bad name - and why more people will not accept Messiah Yeshua since false prophets and their failed prophecies shows to them that Christianity is false.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/brucew827-2.htm
Bruce Warner (27 Aug 2008) "BEING WRONG BEFORE ABOUT THE TIMING"
Dear Doves,

Being wrong before about the timing of the rapture, just means that the chances of being right this time is better!

Come Lord Jesus!

Bruce Warner

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Kelly Herman - channeler of demons

This is proof that Kelly Herman is either a liar or a channeler of demons.

"THE PROPHETS WERE NEVER GIVEN EXACT DATES OF WHEN TO EXPECT THE PROPHECIES THAT CAME FORTH"

Not even the prophet Daniel when he was told how many days until the temple was to be rebuilt until Messiah Yeshua??? Not even to the exact date that Messiah Yeshua rode into Jerusalem on a donkey?

This "Yeshua Ha Mashiach" called His return "the quickening" ??? That is a new age term. Plus the wounds in the hands were in the wrong location.

This "Yeshua Ha Mashiach" misquoted "His" own words by saying that 'I am not a respecter (sic) of persons' regarding the date of His return when in context of scripture it is about judgement and how He will not be a respector of persons when they are facing Him during judgement.

It is unfortunate the satanists arenow using Messianic terms to mislead others. I guess they think they would sound more credible that way.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/kellyh826.htm
WRITE THE THINGS WHICH I WILL TELL YOU. I AM THE FIRST AND THE LAST AND I AM ALL IN ALL. IN THIS LATE HOUR THINGS WILL BE DARK. THOSE THAT ARE IN ME WILL NOT BE SHAKEN. THOSE THAT HAVE REST IN ME WILL NOT FALTER. FIND YOUR BASE WHICH IS MYSELF. I AM NOT A RESPECTER OF PERSONS. THERE IS NOT ONE PERSON ON THE FACE OF THIS EARTH THAT WILL BE GIVEN THE EXACT DATE OF THE QUICKENING. THAT IS FOR MY FATHER'S KNOWLEDGE ONLY. THIS IS SO THE ENEMY CANNOT PREPARE. ANYONE WHO TELLS YOU THEY HAVE BEEN GIVEN A DATE IS NOT OF ME. YOU WILL KNOW THE SEASON AND YOU WILL SEE SIGNS THAT THE FATHER HAS PREPARED, BUT NO EXACT DATES WILL BE GIVEN! KNOW THIS, THE PROPHETS WERE NEVER GIVEN EXACT DATES OF WHEN TO EXPECT THE PROPHECIES THAT CAME FORTH. YOU WILL NEVER SEE AN EXACT DATE OF FULFILLMENT IN SCRIPTURE! YOU WHO KNOW ME WILL KNOW THE SEASON. DO NOT BE DECEIVED! YOU ARE COMMANDED TO WATCH SO KEEP WATCH! I WILL COME AT A TIME THAT YOU LEAST EXPECT AND IT WILL HAPPEN SO QUICKLY YOU WILL NOT HAVE TIME TO DRAW A BREATH. DO NOT BE AFRAID FOR I HAVE OVERCOME THE WORLD. REST IN ME AND THE DESTRUCTION THAT WILL ENSUE WILL NOT TOUCH YOU. I AM CLOSE, AS YOU HAVE HEARD, AND I WILL CONTINUE TO MANIFEST MY GLORY. KNOW THIS, THERE HAS BEEN A GREAT SEALING THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE, BUT THERE IS STILL TIME FOR MORE TO BE SEALED FOR THE COMING HOUR. FORGET YOUR SELF WILL, FORGET THE THINGS OF THIS WORLD AND FOLLOW ME! I HAVE LOVED YOU WITH AN EVERLASTING LOVE. I WILL BE YOUR REST. TRUST IN ME. BEWARE THE ENEMY IS VERY ACTIVE AND KNOWS HIS TIME IS SHORT.(end of the word of The Lord)
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Tuesday, August 26, 2008

false prophet Randy Larson predicts no presidential elections

Didn't we hear this false prophecy before the LAST presidential election (and the one before THAT?)

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/randyl826.htm

Randy Larson (26 Aug 2008) "RE: Will Christians Vote For Evil?"

There will be no vote Lewis.There will be no elections.This year's election will be suspended.Calamity will happen, and martial law will be declared.The president we have we continue right on past the elections.or so some say...
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Ola Ilori - Teenager's dream will force Messiah Yeshua to return

Why is it that people give significance to dreams and visions even when they contradict scripture or give dates and times??? And why do they believe every dream posted is from G-d when the dream could very well be from a satanist or new ager?

Whatever happened to the dream three years ago by a child who said Yeshua was going to return THAT year??? Why do people put more faith in dreams and numerology than they do in Messiah Yeshua when He said 'I will return at a time you think not' ???

"But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only" (Mat. 24:36).

"Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come" (Mat. 24:42).

"Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh" (Mat. 24:44)


"Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh" (Mat. 25:13)

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/ola826.htm

Ola Ilori (26 Aug 2008) "TEENAGER SHOWN TIMELINE OF DANIEL'S 70TH WEEK"
Hi Doves,

In August last year a young teenager, I believe he was 14 years old at the time, posted the following dream. He knows very little about Daniel's final week. He appears to be shown by the Lord that Daniel's final week will start in 2008 and end in 2015.

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A few years ago, I had this dream that I think might be prophetic. Actually, it was more like a dream within a dream, because I either woke up or the dream changed and I had this vision type thing. It started when I began to hear this weird but peaceful music. Then I saw what looked like a man, who I asumed was Jesus (or maybe an angel) because of his appearance and the way he talked. He wore a robe and there were stars all around him, and (I know this sound crazy) what look like straw or hay. I am sad to say I can't really remember everything he said, but I think he was telling me that I shouln't be afraid because he had protected me in the past and still would in the future. But I also know I heard "fifteen years," which he said with great emphasis, possibly several times. Then he said, "I will be with you always, even to the end of the age," and I woke up. I can't say how I knew this, but I think the .... end time would start sometime when I am 15 and the End would come in 2015, exactly 7 years later. I thought this was strange because lots of prophecy teachers say the end time "tribulation" will last 7 years. I woke up feeling very calm and not like anything weird had happened. I've also been observing some current world events and think it's very plausible that the final seven years will start in 2008.

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I believe the rapture will occur on the 21st of October 2008. Daniel's final week will then be from the 22nd of October 2008 to the 5th of October 2015.

The Lord is using every available means to reveal how close we are to the end of this age!

Lets continue to watch.

Ola.

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Don Wise - another one of the numerologist / false prophets from the five demons ("doves")

As long as the numbers come from scripture the false prophets claim their numerology is acceptable to G-d even though He says to not participate in numerology or divination. Unfortunately most people believe the false prophets lies and ignore what G-d says about it.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/donwise826.htm
Monday 25 August 2008 1157John, I am sure you are as always busy. In my reading I came across this set of numbers. For now my question for you, is if you are familiar with them as a group, a sequence, or in any manner. If so I would enjoy knowing your thoughts or any comments you might have though it is not necessary. According to the source of the article they were derived from scripture.396417528639741852 I have nothing to post but please feel free to forward the question to those you think might have any thoughts or insights regarding this. I appreciate it. As always I pray all may be well with you and yours. Thank you so much, Don Wise dwdonwise@gmail.com
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false prophet Lauren from the five demons ("doves")

Talk about twisting scripture and putting your own spin on prophecy. Now we have false prophet Lauren claiming Ariel Sharon (Israel) being in a coma for 1,000 days is somehow prophetically significant.

Anyone who believes this is willingly deceived

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/lauren826.htm

FROM the day Ariel Sharon went into his 'comatose' state, January 4, 2006 UNTIL the 'third day' Tuesday, September 30, 2008, Rosh Hashanah is 1000 days.

If 1 day is as 1000 years then in a type of 'reversed' parallel is 1000 days as 1 hour?

Revelation 17:12 tells of 10 kings who receive power FOR 1 HOUR with the beast. Bush IS NOT the beast, but is being subdued OR controlled from behind the scenes by the AC, who has been continuing/subduing Bush for almost 41 months now! Daniel 7:20, 24 and Revelation 13:5

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Monday, August 25, 2008

Ben Nahm - numerologist / false prophet

Never mind that the new year starts in the spring and not on january first as this numerologist /' false prophet calculates.

Never mind the book of Numbers does not use numerology to give dates something will happen. The numerologists will grasp at anything to make their numerology and false prophecies believable ---- even as they ignore the verses that G-d says to not use divination, sorcery, or numerology.

If false prophet Ben Nahm is not saying something will happen, why does he have to state it along with some statements that show his numerology is "legitimate" ??? If he is not sure, then that proves his numerology is not from G-d and he should never have posted it.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/benn825.htm
Dear Doves,
August 29 will mark the 242nd day of 2008. 242=11x(11+11)=22x11. I am not saying something will definitely happen by then, but I wouldn't be surprised if something did. I am looking at the window from August 29 to September 29 for a Big War to commence. Of course, it could happen sooner.

Great War in Hebrew gematria equals 330.
220+110=330 and 22+11=33.

Our God is a God of numbers, He even has a whole book named Numbers.
Keep looking up. Things are about to get very exciting within weeks.

Shalom,
Ben
ben@hawaiiantel.net
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Tony Ellsworth: The five demons ("doves") gets to vote on the rapture date

In the wacky world of false prophet Tony Ellsworth, he has now decided his rapture dates may need a little help so he is asking other false prophets to predict the date of the rapture:

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/tonye825.htm

Never mind Messiah Yeshua said He would return at a time we THINK NOT and that we should be actively watching at ALL times for His return.

Tony Ellsworth is a false prophet and he is an idiot. It's a wonder that so many follow him and believe his false prophecies (and that any site that claims to be Christian posts his wacky false prophecies)

Saturday, August 23, 2008

Tony Ellsworth: U.S. olympic basketball team a sign of the rapture

False prophet Tony Ellsworth is a total space cadet - yet the five demons ("doves") finds nothing wrong with this numerology and false prophetcies

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/tonye823-2.htm
Redeemed?
· Timothy A. Clary/AFP/Getty Images History wasn't repeated as the U.S. held off Argentina, winning 101-81.
· Not quite, but Team USA did beat Argentina, its '04 Olympic nemesis. The path to gold -- and redemption -- looks clear as the Redeem Team faces Spain, a team it blew out by 37 points during pool play
Gold medal game on Sunday August 24th
101 + Command + And it was so + Thy Throne + The Lord's Priest + Great is the Glory of the Lord + The Love + My Angel + Michael + Not so
37 + Wisdom (Ord) + The Only Begotten Son + The Glory + The Heart + Flame + Magnify + Abel
13 United States original colonies, Joseph tribes, Ephraim & Manasseh
12 biblical # for government
4 # for earth
http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/summer08/basketball/men/recap?gameId=829

Excerpts from the article:
There's still 40 minutes to go, but this U.S. team looks good as gold. (if you add 40 days to today you get Oct 1st a day or 2 after Rosh Hashanah depending on the new moon sighting).
The climb back to the top is nearly complete. One more win and U.S. basketball is golden again.

Blessings,
Tony

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Self centered false prophet Tony Ellsworth

I cannot believe anyone is so self centered and such an egomaniac to think that prophecy centers around them (or even thinks it centers around the democrtatic national convention) This false prophet is so self centered it is a wonder that any site that even remotely claims to be Christian would post this trash. Yet, once again, the five demons ("doves") does so:

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Tony Ellsworth (23 Aug 2008)
"Change of Command"

One range of dates I’ve got my eye on is August 24th – 28th…

1989 and my time in the Navy were significant personal testimony for me. I’ve written all this out and it is in the Appendix section of “Midnight Shout!” for reading.

Very brief recap…I was on “watch” during this time and then even though I was unqualified and “not recommended” during a middle of the night watch the Captain called my name and for the rest of my time in the Navy I worked in his office and was his “phone-talker” for GQ (wartime operations, communication of Captain’s orders for the ship). Before I got out of the Navy The Captain awarded me with Sailor of the Quarter which I was given on the flight deck on Rosh Hashanah 1989.

Lunar cycles last 19 years and we are on nearly the same exact date cycle as 1989. Rosh Hashanah will be on the same date.

I have copies of my ship’s itinerary from these dates. There was a change of command ceremony for Comphibron Seven on August 24th and then my ship (for the Captain) on August 28th. I got out of the Navy before Desert Storm (Babylon war) began and then my ship was the 1st one over. My wife’s brother who is a Marine since that time has served in Iraq and was on the same ship I was on.

My wife & I are both very fond of Denver, but mostly the Broncos and the mountains outside of it. She lived in the mountains for 8 years and whenever we have a chance we like to go up there together. Its where our honeymoon was!

The Democratic Convention will be taking place on nearly these same range of dates – August 24th – 28th.

http://www.demconvention.com/

The “interfaith” gathering takes place on Sunday August 24th and then on August 28th Barak Obama is awarded the Democratic nomination.

…I’ll be watching closely.

Blessings,
Tony

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Friday, August 22, 2008

hurricane name / numerologist false prophet Peter A. van Breemen

Did you know that the names of the hurricanes are prophetically significant??? False prophet Peter A. van Breemen claims everything is significant and has meaning - just as new agers and budhists claim (Messiah Yeshua said when the towers of Siloam fell, that it was just something that happened)

The post below is new age and is from demons (budhism at the core of it) ---- this is allowed on the five demons ("doves") site while posts against numerology and false prophets are not.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/petervb822.htm

Hernan: in the west, in the Pacific, a male name, the eighth tropical storm, became a hurricane on 8/8/2008. West in the Tabernacle of Exodus [Exodus 25:8-10 ] typified a higher spiritual calling… the further west into the tabernacle, the greater the holy preparation and birth required. The Pacific Ocean , with its great size and many islands, is a metaphor for the stars in the heavens where there is peace (pacific). Eight is a three-dimensional number, being the result of 2 x 2 x 2 which can remind us of the Holy of Holies in the Tabernacle of Exodus which had a cube shape of 10 x 10 x10. The third dimension speaks to us of the spiritual dimension in contrast to flat terrain which is only two dimensional.

Fay: was the sixth tropical storm. The number six is merely two-dimensional being the result of 2 x 3. Its location over land in the eastern part of the continent speaks to us of God’s voice upon those who are earth-based and less spiritually experienced. Fay was named a feminine name which further harmonizes with the less spiritually mature (symbolically speaking) in contrast to the maleness of Hernan.
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THEOPHILOS - numerologist and false prophet

Many, many people are trying to force the rapture by conjuring up dates and reasons (88 reasons in 1988?) why the rapture "has to be" this year (and they have been doing this for MANY years)

G-d is not mocked. He will judge the false prophets and He will judge those who follow the false prophets.

One of the five demons ('doves") who posts under the name "THEOPHILOS" claims you can use numerology (which is FORBIDDEN by G-d) to prove the rapture is this year. Yet the same numerologists falsely claimed the same type of formulas "proved" that the rapture would happen LAST year - and the year before, and the year before that, and the year before THAT.

Nobody on the five demons ("doves") site calls them false prophets - they continue to follow them and there continued new false prophecies

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/theophilos822.htm

Times (or years) of the Gentiles, Luke 21:24
390 years (Ezekiel 4:4-5) x 7 (Lev. 26:27-33) = 2730 years
House of Israel taken captive by Assyria in 722 BCE.
2730 years - 722 BCE = 2008 AD
See also Ezekiel 38:16-17, Ezekiel 39:22-24, Isaiah 14:21-27
Joel 2 (Feast of Trumpets), Jeremiah 50 and 51 (Judgment comes to the United States this same day)

Daniel 9:25 (7 weeks of years unto Messiah)

7 x 7 = 49 years
49 x 360 days (Prophetic lunar year) = 17,640 days
June 7, 1967 (1st day of 6 day war) + 17,640 days = Yom Kipper on
September 23, 2015 (Second coming to the earth, Armageddon)
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Rick Wynn reinterprets the bible to fit his own views - promotes other false prophets

Not only does Rick Wynn reinterpret the bible to fit his own views, he also promotes other false prophets and calls them true prophets of G-d. How does anyone accept that this garbage is from G-d??? Is there NO discernment at all on the five demons ("doves") site???

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/rickwynn822.htm

I can't help but wonder if these past 10 years (since 1998) has been that prophetic 10 days of tribulation Jesus spoke of in Revelation 2:10 culminating in the next 40 days (as of today) on Rosh Hashanah where perhaps Jesus will "snatch" up the saints. If the rapture does occur on or before Rosh Hashanah, I don't see how the 10 days could fit between that Holy Day and Yom Kippur concerning the rapture.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/rickwynn822-1.htm

Hello Brother Riley,

Thank you for your encouraging words. I receive it as comformation that I am on track with God. You are one of very few people today that I trust whom speak only God's truth via the Holy Spirit. So when you speak, I am all ears. If you acknowledge God in me then I am confident that the Lord is manifesting the Holy Spirit in me. Through Him I am, without Him I am nothing.

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false prophet Diane Gilbert "confirms" her dream is from G-d

Of course if the rapture doesn't happen this year, she will apply her dream to next year (and so on, and so on, and so on) Either that or satan is allowed to place so-called"confirmations" in dreams in order for G-d to see if they will follow false dreams or follow Him through His word.

Ms. Gilbert claims her dream is "confirmed to be from G-d" because she dreamed about the same color as a description in the bible (sapphire blue)

The five demons ("doves") accept this as a prophecy from G-d because of the phony confirmation. If I had a nickel for every time something on the five demons site was "confirmed by G-d" and failed, I would be very wealthy. G-d does not lie - the five demons are mocking G-d and He will not leave this unpunished.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/dianeg822.htm
Diane Gilbert (22 Aug 2008)

"THE END OF THE CHURCH AGE IS COMING"

THE END OF THE CHURCH AGE IS COMING

Dear Doves, I’d like to share with you a vision I had just before Rosh Hashanah last year. Everyone was excited and looking forward to the rapture at that time, praying and watching. During one of my prayer times, I was praying about Rosh Hashanah and saw a very interesting vision. I thought it applied to Rosh Hashanah last year. Obviously it did not. I sure hope it applies to Rosh Hashanah this year.

I saw the day of Rosh Hashanah like a big, solid wall. On the Left side of the wall, I saw all the gentiles of the world, and they were a mass of humanity up against that wall, and they could go no further. They looked like the dull color of a brown paper bag.

The church was not in that mass of gentiles, it was nowhere in sight. I did not see the rapture take place, but I presume the church was already in heaven; where else could it be, if it was not on earth?

On the Right side of the wall was the Jewish New Year, and it was only Israel, which I understood meant God would be dealing with Israel again, front and center on the world stage. The wall represented the barrier dividing the church age from the beginning of the Jewish New Year, the time exclusively for the Jews and Israel.

I want to emphasize what was so imperative in this vision. The Lord made it clear to me that the gentiles (and the church) ABSOLUTELY CAN NOT ENTER ROSH HASHANAH -- THE JEWISH NEW YEAR, not by a split second. That wall was very final and very definite.

What I “saw” on the Right side of the wall, which represented Israel, was a flat surface. It was shiny, very highly polished, and was a beautiful shade of dark blue. It wasn’t the blue color of Israel’s flag, so I really didn’t know what it represented.

Just a few days ago, I was doing a bible study looking up key verses in the OT about the last 3 Jewish feasts of the year. I ran across a verse that absolutely blew me away.

Exodus 24:9, 10 Moses and Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and the seventy elders of Israel went up and saw the God of Israel. Under his feet was something like a pavement made of sapphire, clear as the sky itself.

I didn’t remember that verse when I saw that vision. The dark blue shiny, flat surface that I saw in my vision matched the description of “something like a pavement made of sapphire” that was under God’s feet in Exodus 24:10. That's the color I saw: SAPPHIRE BLUE!!!

That is a good confirmation that this really did come from God.

So, Dear Doves, we MUST be gone BEFORE Rosh Hashanah begins!

I am awfully excited about this!!!

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false prophet Phil of the five demons ("doves")

Do all the five demons ("doves") accept this as biblically sound??? Whatever happened to discernment??? Apparently after one chooses to follow false prophets instead of G-d they are given over to deception so they will believe garbage like this

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/may2008/phil521.htm

John and Doves,

Remember the boat (yacht) named Rapture and the chance conversation with the young primary school lady chaplain who knew exactly what the word 'Rapture' meant?
Well I was telling the story on the telephone to a Christian lady friend of many years. She recognised my description as being her daughter-in-law!
As her son said in our three-way chat, ".. this was indeed a God moment". What next?

Blessings,

Phil.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/phil822.htm

John and Doves, Remember my Rapture boat chance encounter with a Christian friend's daughter in law in May this year?
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/may2008/phil521.htm [NOTE: post above]

Well her son married this young lady on 9/22/2007. From 9/22/2007 to 9/29/2008, Rosh Hashanah, is 373 days! And only because it is a Leap Year this year! 373 is of course 37 forwards and backwards but more to the point it is also the gematria for the New Testament Greek word LOGOS, the Word found in John 1:1!! How good is that? Also, from their wedding to the Rapture boat meeting was 229 days leaving another 144 days to Rosh Hashanah. Total = 373 days. These days are very close to the Golden Ratio. Praise God! Look up for your redemption draweth nigh. Blessings, Phil.
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Thursday, August 21, 2008

"pastor" F.M. Riley - false prophet

"pastor" F.M. Riley predicted "planet x" would affect the earth and signal that the rapture would happen in 2003. Every year since (and likey even before), he has posted "confirmed" rapture dates for that year. At what point will the five demons ("doves") consider him a false prophet instead of a revered "pastor" ??? Then again, Ancient Israel also followed their false prophets and told Ezekiel to 'go away, Ezekiel, we will follow G-d OUR way' (Ezekiel chapter 8) so it should be expected that the false followers of Adonai would rather listen to their false prophets than to what G-d says

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http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/4648 (read the entire article to see "pastor" Riley's foolishness - this is only the last two paragraphs)

A RECAP OF INFORMATION ABOUT PLANET Xby Pastor F. M. Riley, director of the Last Call Gospel Ministry

Conclusions.....Folks, it ought to be clear to any honest Bible student that the Lord is going to use Planet X (or some other heavenly body) to fulfill many of the Tribulation prophecies. But before the Tribulation begins, He who is "faithful" is going to keep His promises to His people, and remove them [rapture] from "this present evil world," Galatians 14; John 143; 1 Thessalonians 413-18; 59; Revelation 310. The rapture of God's people is at hand! Praise the Lord!

In view of the coming of Planet X, and how it harmonizes with the prophetic Scriptures, I personally feel that the Lord is going to begin the 70th Week of Daniel, Daniel 927, right where the 69th week terminated, allowing for the intervening Dispensation of Grace. The 69th week of Daniel's prophecy (483 years) ended at sundown, Abib 10, 31 A.D. See Luke 1928-44. It now appears that the Lord will begin the 70th week of Daniel (7 years) on Abib 11, 2003 [April 12th], 2000 prophetic years from the time the 69th week ended. Then some thirty days later Planet X will come flying past Earth, literally fulfilling 2 Peter 310, Isaiah 136, and Joel 115. Are you ready?
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Robert Belanger - follower and promoter of false prophets

Whatever happened to the "rapture dates" that were confirmed in june? What about the "rapture dates" that were "confirmed" for last year? And those that were "confirmed" for the last several years???

Confirmed means: 1.made certain as to truth, accuracy, validity, availability, etc. Obviously these "confirmed" dates were not TRUTH or ACCURATE - more false prophets and their LIES yet the five demons ("doves") site continues to post their false rapture date predictions with the LIE that the dates are "confirmed". G-d will not be mocked - these false prophets will suffer for eternity for their lies, deceit, and false prophecies.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/robertb821.htm

Robert Belanger (21 Aug 2008)
"Rosh Hashanah Rapture Date Confirmed Again!"

Dear John and Doves,

Pastor F.M. RIley's study on Israel's Long Night is in my humble opinion unique, original and simply brilliant!

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Kay, Jen, and the other crop circle kooks


Obviously many are being given way to deception since they have refused to follow Messiah Yeshua and obey G-d. Now you have false prophets at the five demons ("doves") site claiming that G-d is giving them signs (and wonders?) in demonic crop circles

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/kay821.htm

These crop circles just CANNOT be made by Hoaxters, they are way too elaborate and would take weeks or months to create--but which kind of ben Elohim (sons of God) is making them??? We are told there will be war in the heavens. Could it be possible these crop circles are warnings from God's angels to mankind about the coming deception of the fallen angels?
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Or maybe they were made by demons? and the false prophets are claiming they are signs by G-d???

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/jen821.htm

I had posted a little while ago about the Lord finally answering my prayers on how much longer before the Rapture. Well, he showed me in my Right hand a pile of wheat no longer than 3 maybe 4 inches. Now, I have just checked out this new Crop Circle in Etchilhampton Hill, Wiltshire England with the CROSS on the ground, and guess what????? It's a WHEAT FIELD. I listed the link for you all to see. Earthfiles.com Headline News

August 15, 2008 - Celtic Cross in Etchilhampton, U. K., Wheat Field ... 2006: Mayan Lamat formation in wheat at Etchilhampton Hill, near Devizes, Wiltshire,

Also, if you notice, the Wheat is short to the ground and also it's HARVEST SEASON. I am thinking here that maybe God is trying to get our attention and telling us all that he is coming perhaps this month AUGUST. Not Rosh Hannah. Sorry for my spelling. He will come when we lease expect him, and I don't know about you all, but we are expecting him to come on Rosh Hannah. I think he is coming sooner. just my thoughts, but WOW if this isn't a coinedence?????

Your sister in Christ Jen
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So now these false prophets claim G-d makes pagan celtic crosses for signs??? G-d said that the world will be deceived by lying signs and wonders - yet this foolishness would not even come close to deceiving a TRUE follower of Messiah Yeshua.

Monday, August 18, 2008

Randy Larson - egotistic numerologist

Yet another one who thinks that their "seeing numbers" means something.

I cannot believe how many people have allowed themselves to be deceived. Once they have fallen into disobedience and look to false prophets, they have opened themselves up to this deception.

Anyone who has read the bible and believes what it says would not be open to such foolishness.

Now Charlton Heston's life is a prophetic significance??? What utter nonsense!

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/randyl818-2.htm

I appreciated your article James.I too have seen the number 222 so many times this past year that I can't even say how many.I've seen 444 and 555 and 333 and 111 and even 11:11 many times too, but can't imagine what they all mean.I did have a few ideas about these numbers.I have a Bible with many of the Strong's numbers right on the printed pages of scriptural text. I first noticed the number 444 when reading about the 'man' of sin in 2nd Thessalonians 2:3. I had already been seeing the number 444 on my digital alarm clock at that time, and when I saw it in my Bible, I made a connection.I pretty much decided that 555 was the ultimate manifestation of the number of grace, 5.I made a study of all the possible combinations of 111, thinking that one of them might be a reference to a chapter and verse of scripture, either chapter 1 verse 11 or chapter 11 verse one, but I didn't come up with anything conclusive.Then there is the number 333. I just assumed that it was trinitarian in nature. Still don't know.
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When you talked about the final season of the House of Ruth, I remembered the final season of Charlton Heston this year too.
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Sunday, August 17, 2008

Lauren - Confirmed false prophet

Yes, a PARTIAL lunar eclipse took part in much of the world - although lunar eclipses happen at regular frequency and nothing significant happened during this one. This proved Lauren (of the five demons site) is yet another in a long line of false prophets on the so-called "christian" site that is allowed to continue in their false prophecies.

It is a sad fact that these false prophets are allowed to continue to post their false prophecies. Unfortunately there is very little discernment left in the world. Messiah Yeshua said the road is narrow and FEW find it (Matthew chapter 7) and we can see how most who call themselves 'Christian' will be deceived after the rapture. The five demons will gladly lead them down the path of antimessiah as it is doing even now.

Saturday, August 16, 2008

Kelly Herman Justifies false prophecies and numerology

Obviously Kelly Herman sees nothing wrong with numerology, false prophecies, and speaking with or studying demons ???


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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/kellyh816.htm
So when you say, "Why do you work with dreams? Why do you work with numbers? Why do you work with prophesy? Why do you work with measurements? Why do you study demons? You should only deal with Scripture." Aren't you putting God in a box? Scripture points out that the earth and the heavens are full of The Glory of God. Some say it is wrong to look into things outside of Scripture, God says it is not! I will challenge anyone in front of the very throne of God on this point!
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Unfortunately for Kelly, unless she repents, she will be before the judgement seat of Messiah Yeshua and will have to answer for her wickedness because she does not obey G-d:

Matthew 7

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

James S - "The world will end because Yankee Stadium is being replaced"

Can you believe THIS???

It is hard for me to believe anyone can be so deceived as to believe a baseball stadium is prophetically significant. And one wonders why many will be deceived by the antimessiah. If you believe this garbage then you need examine whether you are Truly a follower of Messiah Yeshua or not since you are NOT obeying G-d. (Matthew chapter 7 - previous posts)

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/jamess816.htm
I have been strongly impressed for the past several months, that the closing of Yankee Stadium, long referred to as "The House That Ruth Built", at the end of this summer, after 85 years of baseball ("America's Game") being played there and an unmatched and storied history in the world of baseball, was extremely significant as it relates to the soon approaching rapture of "The Bride"....! Just like the Doves' poster who used to play professional football and many times feels the Lord speaks to him through natural events in the world of professional football, the Lord, many times speaks to, and confirms things to me, that will be taking place in the spiritual realm and on the world scene, through natural events in the worlds of professional baseball and golf.
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I then did another search for the words "Yankee Stadium closing"...and one of the the first sites that came back in the search was,..."Yankee Stadium: The FINAL season"..!!

I believed that was just one more confirmation that there is a very significant prophetic message that the Lord was showing me with respect to "The House That RUTH Built" closing and coming to the very end of its history.
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With the last "REGULAR SEASON" game at the legendary Yankee Stadium, "The House That Ruth Built"......scheduled for the 21st of September, which is a mere 9 days before the "Feast of Trumpets" on this year's feast calendar......on the 30th, we will be right in the midst of three of the most important feasts of the year, with the Feast of Tabernacles coming on the 27th of September and the Day of Atonement on the 22nd.....With the Feast of Trumpets also referred to as the "Feast of INGATHERING"........anyone of these days might be THE day that will hold some very interesting events in store for those of us who are "beckoning" for our magnificent and glorious Groom....!!
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Friday, August 15, 2008

Peggy McIlveene & John Tng - license plate false prophets

One has to wonder if there is anyone that is ALLOWED to post on the five demons ("doves") site that has ANY discernment.

Anyone who believes this garbage has best prepare for the tribulation because they will still be here. Anyone who believes this garbage is WILLFULLY DECEIVED

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/peggym815-5.htm

Hi, precious Doves… and especially John Tng!
I was traveling on the freeway to work this morning, and I was right behind a van with Texas license plate 280TNG. You can only imagine how quickly the TNG on the end got my attention! :) I’ve never in my life seen another with that suffix.
Love from your sister in Yahshua!
Peggywww.his-forever.com
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Wow! Thanks, Peggy. You got my attention! :)The number 280 is VERY SIGNIFICANT (see my article here) and the timing of its appearance is also VERY SIGNIFICANT as far as I am concerned. Today is day 226 -- the golden day of 2008! (see another of my article here)
John
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Ben Nahm - numerologist and another five demon ("doves") false prophet

I can't believe all of these numerologists actually believe they are obeying G-d and following Messiah Yeshua.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/benn815-1.htm

God's name YHVH, equals 26. The first two letters equals 15 and the last two equals 11. 15 signifies God's overt hand in history. 11 signifies God's covert hand in history.
There were 11 days journey from Mount Sinai to the Promised Land.
There were 11 chiefs of Esau.
There are many instances of 11 in the Bible. It has to do with revealing the hidden and God's judgment and intervention in human history.

There is a positive 11 and a negative eleven. The positive has to do with subtracting 36 from 25. 25 signifies God's light. Jews light 36 candles on Hanukkah. In order to refract God's primordial light of 25, you need to add 11 and you get 36. Light is used 36 times in the Hebrew Torah.
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Torah also says one false prophecy = false prophet.

Thursday, August 14, 2008

Dutch Sheets - demon infested dominion theologist

A new five demon ("dove") claims we can force G-d to outpour His Holy Presence on us.

Wants people to congregate on 9/11/2008 in order to have demons imparted on them (claiming it is the Holy Spirit)

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/sandraj814.htm
When God spoke to me to expand the last 3 days for the purpose of impartation, I was not thinking about the fact that this would begin on our 88th day, which also begins the 8th year after 9/11/01. Eight is the Biblical number for new beginnings. (Many of you are aware that Chuck Pierce prophesied that America would enter into a seven-year season of war, which began on 9/11/01.)
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Wednesday, August 13, 2008

More lies from "pastor" FM Riley

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This Psalm teaches the rapture of God's people as a certain event for 2008. Glory!

God bless you dear sister. I'll meet you and all other true believers at the feet of Jesus in Paradise in just a few more days. "What a day, glorious day, that will be." Hallelujah! Praise the Lord! Glory to God!
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If the Psalms teaches the rapture is a certain event for 2008, then why in the last 20+ years has the false prophets (including FM Riley) predicted the rapture would be that year? FM Riley predicted the rapture would happen in June 2008 and yet now he is saying "a few more days" ? This has gone on several times a year for many years --- While the rapture may happen this year (or next year or the year after - only G-d knows the day or the hour) it will be in spite of the numerous false prophecies. After all, if you predict every day every year, you have to have stated the corect date.

When false prophets continually predict failed rapture dates and they continue to have a following, you know the time is at hand because there is no discernment left. The bible says when a prophet's prophecies fail, he is a false prophet and not from G-d. Messiah Yeshua said He will reject those who prophesy in His name if they do not obey G-d:

Matthew 7

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Yet another false prophecy --- for august 16th

False prophet Lauren (from five "doves") makes another false prediction

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/lauren813.htm

FALSE PROPHECY:

I believe Joel 2:31 will be fulfilled on August 16 “BEFORE the great and the terrible day of the LORD come” following right behind it will be a flurry of self fulfilling prophecies that I believe will come in this order;

1.) I believe God will now let the United States to be taken out of the way. This is the day of the Lord’s vengeance for our being the ‘architect’ nation in the plan to divide His land and break His everlasting inheritance land covenant!

2.) And then shall that Wicked be revealed
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Joel 2:31

31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the LORD come.

Tuesday, August 12, 2008

Kelly Herman - Believes the lies of demons

Why would anyone trust ANYTHING a demon says??? And why would anyone read something a catholic idol worshiper writes???

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/kellyh812.htm

Beware: "Project Bluebeam" is a satanic deception

Once again the five "doves" (as well as others) are claiming that there is a "project bluebeam" that will be used for the "false rapture" (that isn't in my bible!) They claim that "satan will have a counterfeit rapture before the real one to deceive people into thinking they missed the real rapture"

The myth of "project bluebeam" will be the reason given why they are left behind when the REAL (and ONLY) rapture takes place. Already there is a believable lie in place (which they have already accepted!) for the false prophets and their followers to believe when THEY are left behind because they are wicked and disobedient FALSE followers of Messiah Yeshua.

This will be a great deception that will be widely believed by most so-called "christians" since most will not believe they missed the REAL rapture of True followers of Messiah Yeshua when it happens. They refuse to repent and they will believe The Lie.

Sunday, August 10, 2008

Failed Prophecies of the five "doves" false prophets

This week we had "pastor" Harry Walther predicting that the Sears tower in Chicago would be the object of terrorism on 8/8/08 and that Israel would be attacked (major attack) on 8/9/08. We also had Mark Copfer predict (through second hand "spirit guides" [demons]) there would be a 9.4 earthquake at the salton sea (in california) on august 9th

It is now august 10th and NONE of these false prophecies came to pass (is it surprising to anyone???) making these two confirmed false prophets (yet again) If G-d had given them these prophecies, they would NOT have failed.

We also had the wacky false prophet Tony Ellsworth claiming the temperature of 88F in Omaha on 8/8/08 was significant.

Obviously these prophets have been proven to be false prophets (once again) and one has to wonder why anyone listens to them and their failed prophecies. One also has to wonder why they do not repent and turn to G-d if they are really followers of Messiah Yeshua.

Saturday, August 9, 2008

Mark Copfer - listening to earth worshipers and their demons

The five "doves" has no problem with posting Mark Copfer's posts about what demons are saying and yet John Tng (owner of five "doves") refuses to post scripture verses (Matthew 7: 21-23) because it says Messiah Yeshua will rejhect those who disobey G-d (including the numerologists and false prophets)

Here Mark Copfer is listening to demons and gaia (earth) worshipers : http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/markc89-4.htm Why does John Tng post such obvious satanic teachings from demons???

One has to wonder about the lack of discernment on five "doves" -- it is obviously not a Christian site. Are most who are their deceived with no discernment or are they deceivers intentionally there to deceive others?

Friday, August 8, 2008

John Tng - satanist / numerologist - owner of the five "doves"

http://www.fivedoves.com/rapture/2008/goldenchapter.htm

Anyone with any discernment whatsoever can see the satanism / numerology promoted by the owner of the five "doves" John Tng. If anyone believes the five "doves" is a Christian site, then they are DECEIVED.

William Zambrano - promotes kabbalah & demonic visions

William Zambrano - a five "doves" false prophet - promotes kabbalah and Jewish mysticism.

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/wz88.htm


I watched the video promoted on the false prophet five "dove site by William Zambrano and it is kabbalah. In this "NDE" (demonic vision) this person goes to heaven and has his good and bad deeds judged by Yosef Hayyim (1849 - 1932 --- rabbi of ultra-orthodox Jerusalem community) G-d is mentione (briefly) and NOWHERE is Messiah Yeshua mentioned - just several rabbis (Yonaten ben Uziel, Ben Ish Hai, and Yosef Hayyim) which this man said were 'light so bright' --- and states that these rabbis intercede for those on earth.

Interesting the Israeli in the video knows there needs to be an intercessor between G-d and man yet he attributes the intercesssing to dead rabbis (like the catholics do to priests and "saints") instead of Messiah Yeshua.

One needs to ask why is the five "doves" site pretending to be Christian when they promote false prophets, kabbalah, and antichrist doctrines???

The Wacky World of False Prophet Tony Ellsworth

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/tonye88-1.htm

Tony Ellsworth (8 Aug 2008)"8-8-08" I’m sitting here writing this on the morning of 8-8-08. I even looked at the Omaha weather forecast for the day which happens to be 88 degrees. What significance could any of this hold?
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Tony Ellsworth is as wacky as they come. Talk about being an egomaniac and self centered. What does the temperature in omaha have to do with ANYTHING???

Right now it is

93F in Eilat, Israel; 81F in Jerusalem, Israel; 81F in Beijing, China; 68F in NYC; 77F in Chicago; 92F in Dallas; 67F in Seattle;

What is this wacky false prophet trying to get at by suggesting omaha's temperature of 88F has any significance whatsoever???

Mark Copfer - five "doves" false prophet - listens to demons

Mark Copfer of the five "doves --- gives creddence to demon prophecies

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/markc88.htm

[false earthquake prediction of a 9.4 earthquake in southern california this weekend]

From the source of the demonic prophecy:

This message was given to me from the SPIRIT WORLD this day.
.................. I always pay attention when a Spirit Guide gives me messages.


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Why is Mark Copfer, an alleged Christian, promoting prophecies given by demons???

Thursday, August 7, 2008

Bruce Warner - another false prophet

Bruce warner claims nobody knows the day or the hour for their rapture because the rapture happens at the same time around the world and we cannot know it because it would be a different time (and day) around the world.

He ignores the fact Messiah Yeshua said He would return at a time we think NOT.

Why can't these people just accept the fact that we will not know the day or time of the rapture (in ANY time zone) in advance? Why is this so difficult for them to believe / accept???

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/brucew87-4.htm

Jim Bramlett - Two Faced Hypocrite

Once again, Jim Bramlett has shown he is two faced - claims people are idiots for making predictions he says are false yet he has conjured up rapture date predictions that have always failed and he bad mouths those who do not believe his false predictions. I guess he thinks it is okay for him to give false prophecies and not others??? He cannot even see that he, and many of the other five "doves" look just as looney as the ones he is critisizing for making prophecies that are doomed to fail.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/jim87-1.htm

Dear friends: Okay, I’ve had it. I have held back long enough. I am going to speak out. I may be proved wrong, and if so, I will eat my words, but right now I just have to speak my mind against what I consider to be a form of lunacy. In the past 2-3 months I have read about three different, independent, supposedly reliable predictions that disaster is coming in September 2008. One report says that martial law is “planned” to be declared on September 13. Also predicted is World War III and/or the collapse of the American economy is “planned” (by the powers that be) at about that same time. .......................... (etc.)

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Wednesday, August 6, 2008

The Doomsday List

Secular site keeping track of the "christian" false prophets and their failed prophecies --- notice many are also the so-called prophets of the five "doves"

http://transmitters_revenge.tripod.com/doomsday_list.html

Some of the five "doves" false prophets (and their prophecies) they have listed:

Jim Bramlett
Bob Ware
Donna Danna
Clay Cantrell
Marilyn Agee
Jerry Greenough
Jim Searcy
David Zavitz
Lyn Mize
Bill Singleton
David Parker (also known (for some reason) as CAPS)

A non-Christian can see that these people are false prophets so why are they accepted by those who call themselves Christians? It is obvious most who believe they are Christians are not and that Messiah Yeshua will reject them because of their disobedience:

Matthew 7

21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.


Is it not obvious that Messiah Yeshua will judge those who disobey G-d??? And where do we find out how to obey G-d? The TORAH - which is rejected by most of whom that call themselves Christian.

Jim Bramlett - false prophet is Fleecing the Flock (ie: scamming people)

Jim Bramlett - scamming the Believers

Make Money Fast pyramid scam --- while predicting a rapture date for this fall??? Talk about hypocrisy! This false prophet has predicted the rapture was going to happen in June 2008 (which failed) and is now predicting a rapture date for this fall (2008) while trying to scam believers in joining his multi level marketing / make money fast scam (ie: pyramid scam) :

http://www.superspiderweb.ws/

Registrant Name: Jim Bramlett
Registrant Email: jbramlett@earthlink.net
Administrative Contact Email: jbramlett@earthlink.net
Administrative Contact Telephone: [left out although you can find it doing a domain search at http://worldsite.ws/utilities/lookup.dhtml]


And of course - the false prophet has a cheerleader:

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2008/shelvas86-1.htm

Shelva Sirry (6 Aug 2008)
"Jim Bramlett's Post Yesterday"

John,

Thank you so much for allowing Jim and others to share with us ways they believe to safely add to our incomes. So many people need it now or at least need more in order to give more. I trust what I hear from the Doves when people are in something that has proven not to be a scam or they have just checked out something that is free so you can't lose.

We are at the End. We are entering the time of the "transfer of wealth from the sinner to the just". Christians need great wealth to send the gospel around the world via television and radio. Thank God using the internet to spread the Word is still free. But millions do not have internet access, therefore we must pay to send missionaries.
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"Transfer of wealth from the sinner to the just" ??? This is not in the bible. This is a scam from the 'name it and claim it' false teachers.

If these people trusted G-d, they would not be trying to scam people and making money fast - they would trust G-d to provide or they would GET A JOB and WORK for a living. The bible says those who do not work will not eat (some cannot work and those are to be provided for by either their family or their local congregations)

Monday, August 4, 2008

Gerald Nicholl - numerologist / false prophet

Gerald Nicholl is another one of the five "doves" false prophets who uses "biblical numerology" to conjure up rapture dates and other such foolishness. Obviously there is no discernment and he continues to "preach" that his conjured up numerology numbers means something relevant.

Whatever happened with obeying G-d and rejecting false teachings and false prophecies??? Is discernment really dead? or do most people prefer having their ears tickled by false prophets and their lies than believe what G-d says about something? The bible says scripture is not for private interpretation. Yet the false prophets ALWAYS claim some special knowledge by divination or numerology.

This is yet another false prophet on the five demons ("doves") web site.

Friday, August 1, 2008

"pastor" Harry Walther - false prophet

Of course this false prophet and his repeated false prophecies is being promoted by the five "doves" false prophet site:

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"pastor" Harry Walther (false prophet) falsely predicts

I have found the next terror attack in The Bible Code and this is for CHICAGO, USA on the date of 8-8-08. Actually this attack on Chicago connects three Bible Code together in what seems to say Terrorists will launch a simultaneous attack on both Chicago (USA) and ISRAEL.

BIBLE CODE II
CODE LOCATION: NUM:7:538-9-08 (8AB =HEBREW)
ISRAEL - TERROR- DAYLIGHT-
MISSILE - DISASTER - PLAGUE-
TERRORIST- POISON- CLOUD- CHLORINE
PRESIDENT BUSH- TO ANNIHILATE
DAMASCUS- BLAMED - GUILTYHOLOCAUST - FIRE - DESTRUCTION
WILL DIE

The date of 8AB in Hebrew is 8-9-08. It is possible that at the same time terrorists crash a plane into the Sears Tower (USA) on the nite of 8-8-08, ISRAEL is hit by a terror attack, in the morning ("daylight") of 8-9-08, a simultaneous attack.
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Yet when this prophecy fails, will claim it was prevented because of his warning (as he has done with other false prophecies)

Is G-d playing games and putting codes in the bible that will be prevented by MAN? OR is it yet another false prophet who claims G-d is placing warnings in the bible so that MAN can prevent them from happening???

False prophets use numerology (which includes "bible codes") so they can trick some people into believing their numerology and false prophecies are from G-d. G-d does not need man to prevent anything from happening and He certainly would not encode false predictions in the bible. "Bible numerology" is a deception by satan that G-d has allowed to see who loves Him is truly obedient to His word