I just don't get it. All the false prophets claim we can know the date of the rapture in advance - while they continuing spewing out dates that alwasy fail - and continually prophecying different dates than the other false prophets.
Obviously if they claim we can know the rapture date in advance then they should not be conjuring up different dates and their date would not fail. This is not the case so how can they continue to claim that we can know the day of the rapture???
Fruitcake false prophets are whjy many people do not follow Messiah Yeshua and those false prophets will be eternally punished.
The wicked false prophets will not understand that we must KEEP WATCH each and every day for MESSIAH YESHUA and not conjure up dates to watch as the false prophets claim. You must chose to either follow Messiah Yeshua and what He says - or follow the false prophets (such as Mark Copfer) down the broad road to hell.
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Mark Copfer (29 Oct 2008)
"Re: The Rapture"
You said: No man can know the day or the hour neither the angels but the Father only of when Jesus will come for the Bride
I must say that you are incorrect with your interpretation of this verse in the bible. One must go back, and understand who said it, to whom it was said, and what time period it was said. Back then, Jesus was NOT in heaven, so of course he could not know the day nor hour. But you can bet your life he most certainly knows now.... The following will help in gaining understanding of that verse that you are referring to.
That verse above that you refer to is the MOST mis-interpretated mis-understood verse in the entire bible. The following will shed some light and hopefully give some understanding.
The most common understanding of the date discoverer-- for Matthew 24:36 is that Jesus was only referring to that present time, i.e., the present tense applied to that particular time and not necessarily to a future time when the knowledge of dates and times would be Divinely unsealed. "But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the Time Of The End" (Daniel 12:4). Additionally, we have good reason to believe that the understanding of the End Time events will be especially unsealed for those upon whom those events will occur, such as the Pre-Tribulational Rapture. "None of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand" (12:10).
However, Mark 13:32 is even more stringent than Matthew 24:36 in the limitation of who may not know the day or the hour. "But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in Heaven, neither the Son, but the Father" (Mark 13:32). Here, the LORD Jesus stated that He knew not the day or the hour, the same as man and angels. Why did the Son of God say this of Himself? When "The Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us" (John 1:14), He left His glory in Heaven. "But we see Jesus, Who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that He by the grace of God should taste death for every man"(Hebrews 2:9). When the LORD Jesus ascended back to Heaven, He was restored to His glory. "Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, He hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear" (Acts 2:33). Therefore, Jesus only temporarily did not know the day or the hour, by Divine agreement within the Godhead. And, if Jesus only temporarily did not know; likewise, man may only temporarily not know the day or the hour. "He [the Spirit of Truth] shall glorify Me: for He shall receive of Mine, and shall shew it unto you" (John 16:14).
Man may choose to ignore or neglect God's modern prophets, but God is most certainly using these faithful servants to declare to him "that hath an ear" (Revelation 3:13) God's secrets of coming prophetic events. "Surely the LORD GOD will do nothing, but He revealeth His secret unto His servants the prophets" (Amos 3:7) It may be the disposition of those who reject the certainty that we may know the day or the hour, to choose to hear a particular prophet, or to reject all the modern prophets wholesale; but, remember the Apostle Peter's Pentecost sermon reference to the active presence of prophets in these Last Days. "And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of My Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams" (Acts 2:17 compare to Joel 2:28). If God does not neglect these modern prophets, then we dare not neglect them, either. "Touch not Mine anointed, and do My prophets no harm" (Psalm 105:15).
The prophets of the Old Testament were date setters-- or, date discoverers-- i.e., they sought to understand the timing of the things that they had prophesied. "Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what [i.e., what Person], or what manner of time [i.e., when would be the First Advent] the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when It testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow" (1Peter 1:10-11). The godly example of these prophets ought to be imitated in our seeking to know the timing of the events associated with the Second Advent--"whose faith follow" (Hebrews 13:7). Perhaps the most touching reason for why we may know the day or the hour of the Pre-Tribulational Rapture is the principle of friendship with the LORD Jesus."Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his LORD doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of My Father I have made known unto you" (John 15:15). Just because one part of the Body professes not to know of a particular date or time for an End Time event, does not mean that another part of the Body has not been revealed that understanding. "And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you" (1Corinthians 12:21).And, just because we believe that it is possible to know the date or the hour of the Pre-Tribulational Rapture, does not mean that we necessarily have been persuaded of any particular date or time. "Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind" (Romans 14:5). If we do not presently have the confidence that we have the understanding of any particular date or time, then we-- as well as those who are persuaded of a particular date or time-- should simply go forth in the strength of Jesus' assurance that the "time is at hand" (Revelation 22:10), and be ready. "Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not" (Luke 12:40).
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