"begins" on november 15th (17 Cheshvan) ???
The rapture will happen in a twinkling of an eye yet false prophet Jerry Grenough claims it will "begin" on november 15th. Obviously his definition of "rapture" is not the catching away of the True Believers but is something else - a deception.
NOBODY knows the DAY OR THE HOUR - yet he is pulling verses out of context to try and "prove" otherwise. Jerry Grenough is a FALSE PROPHET and those who follow him instead of G-d will be judged.
The wacky world of false prophets and their numerology and circular reasoning gets stranger and stranger as the delusion on them grows stronger and stronger.
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Jerry Grenough (3 Nov 2008)"17 Cheshvan"
Doves,
This is an excerpt from a Letter – email I have in my files: Points to the day:
I think it may be time to go out on the limb and declare that the rapture begins on the day Noah entered the ark -17 Cheshvan, and here is why I think so:
When you read the Matthew account of Where Jesus answers questions from the disciples about the end times you see something very fascinating when you parse out the parable section at the end. Here is what he says:
Mat 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: Mat 24:33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Mat 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. Mat 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. Mat 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
I T ' S T I M E T O P A Y A T T E N T I O N N O W :
We are quite familiar with the fig tree part, and the "generation shall not pass" part, but then it gets interesting if you follow the remaining logic carefully. Notice that He says in verse 36 that of the "day and hour knoweth no man". Now let's suppose that the "knoweth" part is present tense. That would mean that no one knows the day or the hour AT THAT MOMENT. I suspect this because of how He continues the logic and sentence structure on the verses to follow.
Notice that the word "But" starts verse 36 AND verse 37. The first "But" in verse 36 refers the the prior verse or verses. The second "But" in verse 37 then becomes isolated to refer to ONLY verse 36, or so it would appear. Let's assume for a moment that this is correct. That would mean that, whereas no man "knoweth" now, one can know something of that day when one looks at "the days of Noe".
Here is where is gets absolutely mind-boggling. You have all three time periods mentioned within 3 verses. Verse 36 is present, verse 37 is past, ("as the days of Noe WERE"), and future, ("so SHALL also the coming of the Son of man be"). So although no man knows now, all you have to do is look to the past to know about the future coming of the Son of man. But notice something more...we have to look all the way back to Noah in Genesis 7!! That means no feasts, no special ordinances given to the Jews, no passover, no trumpets, NOTHING, because this is BEFORE any of these existed.!! The Jewish feasts are not the signs we are looking for here. Ok, so what are we looking for...?
Mat 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, (10 Cheshvan) Mat 24:39 And knew not until the flood came (17 Cheshvan) , and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
The days of Noe in verse 38 only mention people "eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage. That is not news, in and of itself, in terms of setting a time period. What is remarkable is the next part where it says "until THE DAY that Noe entered into the ark. (10 Cheshvan) That day is given in the following verses in Genesis:
Gen 7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. Gen 7:12 And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights. Gen 7:13 In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark;
That day is 10 Cheshvan (7 days before the rain started on 17 Cheshvan) which would have been the second month before the exodus, as has been pointed out times before.
So let's summarize...no man knows the day now (as He spoke to the disciples), BUT if you look to the day Noe entered the ark, you shall know when the coming of the Son shall be !! The missing piece of the puzzle is determining the year that this will occur, NOT the day. But the day without the year is the same as not knowing the day in actuality. Next we read:
Mat 24:40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Mat 24:41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Mat 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
After He mentions the day Noe enters the ark then you see judgement in verses 40 and 41.
But, now is where it gets electric...
Notice in verse 42 we are NOW (after we have been given the day without the year) to Watch therefore: for ye know not what H O U R your Lord doth come...what happened to the DAY and the hour ?
We NOW KNOW THE DAY!!!
So to close the logic loop, as it were, Jesus could say that no may knows the day and the hour in verse 36, while at the same time giving us the day in verse 38, because the year is not known. So we go from the fig tree, Israel , to the generation, to the day itself. We just have to get the year right.
We'll see.
Forwarded by Ed P. to J Grenough
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