Psalm 1 - blessed is the man who takes delight in the law of G-d (Torah)

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Psalm 1

1 How blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked,
Nor stand in the path of sinners,
Nor sit in the seat of scoffers!

2 But his delight is in the law of the LORD,
And in His law he meditates day and night.

3 He will be like a tree firmly planted by streams of water,
Which yields its fruit in its season
And its leaf does not wither;
And in whatever he does, he prospers.

4 The wicked are not so,

But they are like chaff which the wind drives away.

5 Therefore the wicked will not stand in the judgment,
Nor sinners in the assembly of the righteous.

6 For the LORD knows the way of the righteous,
But the way of the wicked will perish.
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false prophet Frank R. Molver - his "god" talks to him through ads and license plates

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G-d speaks to me through scripture. ba-al speaks to his followers through secular means. Anyone who believes G-d speaks to them through unbiblical means is open for deception and has absolutely NO discernment. hasatan can place thoughts and ideas into their minds and then bring it to them through the media (the media campaign was planned and hasatan knew what to place in their little minds)

2 Corinthians 11
13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ.
14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

false prophets would rather listen to ads, billboards, lisc plates, movies, newspaper articles rather than read their bibles and see what G-d REALLY says

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Frank R Molver (29 Nov 2008)"Obama fireworks confirmation etc,"
Isn't it interesting how God uses so many different forms to get our attention. Ads, billboards, lisc plates, movies, newspaper articles. Usually it is something you think of and next thing you know you see it in the media. I have 2 examples. One is the vision I shared re the celebration of the AC. I saw attacks on Christians then I saw darkness with great fireworks like new years in my city celebrating with people chanting the king is come. Well I have come to think that it might be Obama. So then I go to my email on hotmail and there is a flash video re mortgages which I can't seem to snag the picture off of. It is fireworks going off with a picture of an angry Obama bobbing back and forth. Last week I woke up with a word that I posted here. It was Monto and after googling it I get an Egyptian God of war with an image of him. I posted it here but the image did not show. Well for the next few days after that this same flash video had that exact same Egyptian God on it waving its arm, like saying hello, are you paying attention? So I for me personally I think we are in for big trouble with this Obama thing soon and I think war is the outcome. This to me seems to be a verification of what Scott Walkington shared re this current election and the after effects. Finally it seems to be happening. I hope the many people who look at this site will be prepared.
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license plate false prophet Nando

I cannot believe all of the fruitcakes that sees license plate numbers and claims it means something prophetically (they are probably why there are so many traffic accidents!)

Claiming a license plate number means something is using it as an omen - and G-d calls those that interpret omens DETESTABLE

Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."

"confirmations" by other false prophets is an agreement - it is not a confirmation of ANYTHING (especially since it likely won't happen - the false prophets have been WRONG 100% so far)

The "bible wheel" is satanic and is used by the false prophets like a ouija board
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Nando (29 Nov 2008) "(NOV 28, 2008) Confirmation of Barak, Antichrist and tribulation"
(NOV 28, 2008) Confirmation of Barak, Antichrist and tribulation
This letter #32 which I posted in my blog (twelvebooks.wordpress.com) and sent to Mr. Tng for posting is very important to me and in order to give the readers who think I am nuts or that this is garbage the opportunity to turn off I am going to presents the facts as clear and brief as I can. After the facts I am going to give a more detailed explanation of what I believe these facts are. If by the end of the facts or before you so feel to turn off please stop reading and do something else, but my duty would have been met as a watchman and witness.
This morning at 7.45 I left with my wife to our doctor’s office for her appointment. At 8.35 AM we left to return home and less that two blocks away I saw a license plate S22 2_ _. When I use _ it means a letter that I did not write down, remember I am driving and cars are moving. We stopped to buy bagels and continued our trip on US1. Close to our home (3MIN. away) there was a red light and we stopped. In this light there were a total of four cars ahead of mine, one had a license plate 222 _ _ _, the other T66 6_ _ and the other 066 ER_.
Now if you are still reading a more detail description and evaluation.
This morning when we left the house the last think I had in my mind was to receive a message form our Lord. The traffic was almost none existing, schools are out and a lot of people took off from work. Yesterday was Thanksgiving Day and my daughter’s sister in law invited us to eat dinner at their house in Fort Lauderdale. It was a 65 minutes trip at 1.30 PM and I was thinking He was going to use the trip to send me a message through license plates. This form of communication between Jesus and me has been going on in a constant way for more than twenty three (23) years. I was prepared with paper, pen and even a camera to flash at the moving cars, if I could convince my relunctant teenager daughter to do it. Well in the trip going and going we saw eight cars with the 77 on their license plates and two with 777. These last two we did get a photo of them. There were two taxis with the phone 954-777-7777 which are common in Broward County. As usual the Lord told me in no unsertian way that He was thinking of me in the same manner that I was thinking of Him, but of course I have the passive end of the conversation, but He has to make thinks happen for me and my family to see.
Back to this morning, the two plates with the number 222 = Barak was very unespected, I left at the end the post I send Mr. Tng so you can see the importance of this confirmation. The cluster of three license plates in a red light is such a small probabilistic number as to fall in the realm of impossibility. The 666 is the number of the first beast of revelation or the antichrist. The 066 is the 66 in three numbers. The book of revelation is book 66 of the Bible and thru the years with the # of plates I have seen with this # I have always equaled it to the apocalypse.
Now let us talk about the mathematical probabilities of these numbers confirming that Barak is the Beast of Revelation and that we are in the apocalypse or that it is about to start.
To see a three number in a license plate there is a probability of 1 in 1000 since as an example there is only one 777 in numbers 0 to 999.
So what is the probability of the cluster happening,
P = (1÷ 1000) x (1÷ 1000) x (1÷ 1000) x 4 (cars) = (1÷1,000,000,000) x 4 = 1/250,000,000
Now the probability of 222 = Barak is approximate:
(1/1000) x (1/1000) x 65 (cars I saw on the way back + or-) = 65/1,000,000

Dear John and Jovial I do not know enough of the Biblewheel or the interpretations which you both gave to the 234 to know if they are correct or if any or both of you are correct. I am going to relate what happened to me today and you be the judge as to the meaning. This letter is typed at almost 11 PM, and what I saw happened at 6.30 PM and at 9 + PM tonight, before I read this article a few minutes ago. At 6.30 PM my wife needed some additional chocolate for a dessert she was to make on Thanksgiving and we were leaving to the market to get it. I live on a dead end street and when driving around to leave there was a van with the license plate 222 V_Q which I thought was strange, there are almost never car leaving our area at the time we leave, and that it was a message from God. My wife did not think so and we did not discuss it any more. At 9 PM we started seeing the program the Mentalist and in the program there is a murder on the second floor of a motel, and when the policeman is at the door the number of the room was 222. I told my wife, daughter and her boyfriend and rewinded the program to see if they saw or noticed the #. Not till I pointed it out. I knew it was a message, but did not know what it meant until I read Mr. Jovial post in fivedoves.com which is included below. I do not know the date for the rapture, but this to me is a confirmation of Barak(Blessing) = 222 as being the ACBlessings and hoping Jesus will come soon
Nando
Jovial (25 Nov 2008)"Has the penny dropped and Tan's $2.34"
John mentioned a large number of words that added to 234, and how some of them involved Barak (ברך) as a root. However, Barak (ברך) does NOT add up to 234. Let me demonstrate....
BaraQ (ברק) [Lightning] = 302
Barak (ברך) [Blessing] = 222 (I think this form is his actual name)
There are some GRAMMATICALLY ALTERED FORMS for "barak" that can add up to 234, but I can make almost any word that adds up to something a little under 234 morph to 234 with the right grammar. John mentioned that "וברוך" adds up to 234, but that does not mean "bless" but "and blessed". Adding the two VAVs changes the grammar of the word. I can get it to add up to 228 by adding only ONE VAV (ברוך). I could get it to add up to 232 by changing it to "my blessing" (ברכי) much like derek (way=דרך), which adds up to 224, turns into 234 when it is dereky (my way= דרכי). But 234 is not pivotally connected to the Hebrew word for "Bless" (ברך), which adds up to 222 in its root form. However, the English word for "dollar" (דלר), when spelled with Hebrew characters, DOES add up to 234! So one would have an easier time making a claim that Tan's experience was predicting a 134% inflation rate than making a connection to Obama as the False Messiah. Not that I'm claiming that was the subtle message or anything, just that I am making a point about invoking some sense of logic to connect things together.__Not almost any word, Joe. Only 34 Biblical words (morphed or otherwise) are thrown up by the Biblewheel search engine. There are only 34 such unique words found in the Bible that add to 234. Given that there are 788,280 words in the Bible, and given the intriguing occurrences of BARAK, this is a significant find.John
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false prophet Jan Mikael - three years ago a demon said that would be the last christmass - and he claims that prophecy is for THIS year

Nothing like a false prophet and a failed prophecy they promoted - instead of admitting it failed, they give the failed prophecy a "new life" and claim it means something entirely different than the prophecy stated.

Now we have the "walmart prophecy" that false prophet Jim Bramlett has been posting in various forms on the internet for at least TEN YEARS. Instead of admitting the prophecy is false (and likely something made up by false prophet Jim Bramlett) the false prophets such as Jan Mikael are giving the failed prophecy a new meaning and are now claiming it is about THIS year.

Unbelievable - and unbelievable few have the discernment to see the false prophecies for the garbage that it is.

Look up some of the false prophets (such as Jim Bramlett, Marilyn Agee, Ted Porter, and you will see they are infamous as false prophets elsewhere than here)

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Jan Mikael (29 Nov 2008)
"1.2.3 - the "angel's" message at WalMart ."
I my-self have often thinking of the Wall Mart message, but I could not understand it, before I saw the letters from Randy and Brad. Could the three time this message were given, be like a count down - 1.2.3 - ? - if this is what it mean, then 1.2.3. starting from when ? - the first sunday in Advent ? I think Advent means - the comming of the Lord ??? - and we christians still are in 2oo8, the Jews are in 5769, so we are both in 8 and in 9. (I dont want to discuss that fact) 1. advent sunday is 30. of nov.2. advent sunday is 7. of dec.3. advent sunday is 14. of nov. seven days later is advent sunday the fourth, - dec. 21th - 3 and a half day later its Christmas-nigth, dec 24th. - I deeply hope we are going home before that day, or on that day. thinking of my dream from july 16th 2006, I never have understood, follow here. " 1.2.3. final count down, o7, o8, o9, eleven days and eleven hours (forgotten word) from now. " Maranatha, ybic, Jan Mikael - jami@paradis.dk Randy (24 Nov 2008) "Remember the "angel" at WalMart in the toy section 3 ? years ago ? Could it Mean..."--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Do you remember the post? AS I recall, 3 teenage girls at a Walmart, just after Christmas encountered a little girl, out of the blue who asked them:Did you have a nice Christmas? They said yes.She asked them again, did you have a nice Christmas? They said yes.And she asked them again, did you have a nice Christmas? And they said yes.To which she replied (I think) "Good.....becuase it will be your last one......" And then she was GONE....... If I have the quote of the post correct.......Could it be.....a countdown to 3 Christmas year forward to COME? (Assuming the encounter was "real"........) Just thinking out loud....and trying to make it all fit for Christmas! YFIC, RAndy PS....really liked the post about "Why wouldn't the Rapture happen on a CHRISTIAN Feast Day.....like Christmas ? And, if 911 was a significant day of warning, might the Christmas Eve sunami be a BIG warning as welll?
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false prophet "pastor" F.M. Riley says you do not have to obey G-d

false prophet F.M. Riley says you do not have to obey G-d but only have to obey the "commandment of christ" (whatever that is) and claims those who say you have to obey G-d are "unbelieving legalistic Jews" who are trying to "bring Gentile believers back under the burden of Jewish Law"

Messiah Yeshua said He did not come to void the Torah but to make it stronger (confirm it). He never said the law was bad - He was against the rabbinical fences that the Jewish leadership heaped onto the law.

Matthew 5:
17 Don't think that I have come to abolish the Torah or the Prophets. I have come not to abolish but to complete.
18 Yes indeed! I tell you that until heaven and earth pass away, not so much as a yud or a stroke will pass from the Torah - not until everything that must happen has happened.
19 So whoever disobeys the least of these mitzvot (words/commands) and teaches others to do so will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But whoever obeys them and so teaches will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven.
20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness is far greater than that of the Torah-teachers and P'rushim, you will certainly not enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

Messiah Yeshua said He will reject those who disobey G-d (Torah) :

Matthew 7

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Messiah Yeshua and ALL of the early church kept the Torah (law) It was not until ~300 AD that constantine prohibited believers (and Jews) from keeping Shabbat and the dietary laws.

In Isaiah 66 G-d speaks about the time after Israel became a nation in a day (1948)

17 "Those who consecrate and purify themselves to go into the gardens, following the one in the midst of those who eat the flesh of pigs and rats and other abominable things—they will meet their end together," declares the LORD.

Lets look at one of the biggest lies false prophet "pastor" FM Riley has ever told:

Many people today, especially some "Messianic Jews," are trying to make the "commandments of Christ" synonomous with the Ten Commandments and the 613 commandments of the Jewish Law. I don't care how hard they try, there is absolutely no Scriptural proof that the commandments of Christ set forth in the New Testament are the same as the Ten Commandments given to Moses for the children of Israel, nor are they the same as the 613 commandments contained in the Jewish Law.

Messiah Yeshua is THE ONE who gave Moses the "ten commandments" Messiah Yeshua has ALWAYS existed - it appears false prophet "pastor" F.M. Riley believes Messiah Yeshua was born and then had to undo a bunch of laws His Father gave. Messiah Yeshua said He did not

Just which of the ten commandments does false prophet F.M. Riley have a problem with???

Ten Commandments

1. 'You shall have no other gods before Me.'

2. 'You shall not make for yourself a carved image--any likeness of
anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in
the water under the earth.'

3. 'You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.'

4. 'Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.'

5. 'Honor your father and your mother.'

6.'You shall not murder.'

7. 'You shall not commit adultery.'

8. 'You shall not steal.'

9. 'You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.'

10. 'You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.'

Let me guess - false prophet "pastor" F.M. Riley says it is now okay to lie, steal, commit adultery, and murder??? Nope - the one he disagrees with is the one that G-d said would be a sign between Him and His people (including the grafted in gentiles) - false prophet F.M. Riley says it is okay to violate G-d's Shabbat (Sabbath) even though neither Messiah Yeshua or the early church violated it. Messiah Yeshua stood up against the rabbinic fences although He never said to not keep the Sabbath.

ALL of the early church were Messianic Jews and the early church met in synagogues on Shabbat where they were to learn Torah

Acts 15
21 For Moses from generations of old hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath.

The Apostle Paul:
Acts 24: 14
"But this I do admit to you: I worship the God of our fathers in accordance with the Way (which they call a sect). I continue to believe everything that accords with the Torah and everything written in the Prophets.

What are some of the laws that false prophet "pastor" F.M. Riley doesn't like?

Here is a few of the laws that false prophet "pastor" F M Riley disagrees with:

Exodus 20:2 - To believe in God
Deuteronomy 6:4 -To acknowledge the Unity of God
Deuteronomy 6:5 - To love God
Deuteronomy 6:13 - To fear God
Exodus23:25; Deuteronomy11:13; 13:5 - To serve God
Deuteronomy10:20 - To cleave to God
Deuteronomy10:20 - On taking an oath by God's Name
Deuteronomy 28:9 - On walking in God's ways
Leviticus22:32 - On Sanctifying God's Name

True Believers are GRAFTED IN to Israel and were commanded to obey the same law as given to the Children of Israel

Numbers 15
15 The community is to have the same rules for you and for the alien living among you; this is a lasting ordinance for the generations to come. You and the alien shall be the same before the LORD:
16 The same laws and regulations will apply both to you and to the alien living among you.'"

Exodus 31
16 "Therefore the children of Israel shall keep the Sabbath, to observe the Sabbath throughout their generations as a perpetual covenant.
17 It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel forever; for in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day He rested and was refreshed.'"

Romans 11 (to the gentiles)
17 If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root,
18 do not boast over those branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you.
19 You will say then, "Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in."
20 Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but be afraid.
21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.
22 Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off.

Since when is G-d a respector of people and has one set of laws for one group and another set for another group? Messiah Yeshua is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow and if His law was given to Ancient Israel and will be observed in His Millenial Kingdom then why would it be any different today???

Isaiah 66
22 "As the new heavens and the new earth that I make will endure before me," declares the LORD, "so will your name and descendants endure.
23 From one New Moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, all mankind will come and bow down before me," says the LORD.
24 "And they will go out and look upon the dead bodies of those who rebelled against me; their worm will not die, nor will their fire be quenched, and they will be loathsome to all mankind."

If you still have doubts, then read the bible for yourself - cover to cover without deviating and ask G-d to reveal His truth to you. Do not be deceived by those who say you do not have to obey G-d. Ancient Israel decided to worship G-d THEIR way instead of His way and He was angry with them. When He sent His prophet Ezekiel to tell them to repent, they told Ezekiel to go away because they want to worship G-d THEIR way --- Read Ezekiel especially chapter 8.

Ancient Israel said the very same thing false prophet "pastor" F.M. Riley is saying - he will worship G-d HIS way instead of the way G-d said He wants to be worshiped . false prophet "pastor" F.M. Riley is leading you down the same broad road to hell that he is on. In this day where everyone in the united states and most countries have access to a bible (and if you are reading this - there are many bibles in different languages online) NOBODY will have an excuse when they face Judgement Day.

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F.M. Riley (28 Nov 2008) "Re: God's Laws and Commandments"
Pastor Riley, Does God word clearly define which laws and commandments a 2008 Gentile believer needs to keep? Thank you,Garry BoggsAlbion, Iowa
Dear Garry, I am sorry I haven't gotten back to you sooner, but limited time, doctor's appointments, therapy, etc. have prevented me from answering as soon as I would have liked. Garry, New Testament believers are under the "commandments of Christ" as contained in the New Covenant. Many people today, especially some "Messianic Jews," are trying to make the "commandments of Christ" synonomous with the Ten Commandments and the 613 commandments of the Jewish Law. I don't care how hard they try, there is absolutely no Scriptural proof that the commandments of Christ set forth in the New Testament are the same as the Ten Commandments given to Moses for the children of Israel, nor are they the same as the 613 commandments contained in the Jewish Law. Such "false teaching" is just another vain attempt on the part of unbelieving legalistic Jews to bring Gentile believers back under the burden of Jewish Law. Read Galatians 2:1-10 [notice especially verse 4] and Acts 15:1-31. This question of New Testament believers being under any part of the Jewish Law was settled by the Apostles themselves at the first church council in Acts 15. Compare Ephesians 2:19-22 and Galatians 3:24-26. Then read 1 Timothy 1:5-11, and ask yourself if you fit the description of the man for whom the Law was made in verses 9-10. If you don't, then you have no need of the Law given to Israel, which God's Word repeatedly points out that they never kept and cannot keep. The Lord Jesus Christ Himself clearly stated in John 14:21 and 14:23-24 that our "love" for Him as New Testament believers is not displayed or revealed by keeping the Old Testament Law of works [Romans 11:5-6], but our "love" for the Lord is displayed by keeping His New Testament commandments and His Word. If you want to know how to live for the Lord Jesus in 2008, then study the New Testament and let it's teachings permeate your soul and life. As New Testament believers, we use the Old Testment for types, shadows, examples, and "instruction in righteousness" and in the prophetic Word. See 1 Corinthians 10:1-11, Romans 15:4, 2 Timothy 3:16-17, and 2 Peter 1:19-21. We&! nbsp;are not Jews and we have no obligation to observe and keep the Law which God gave to the Jewish people and to them alone. See Deuteronomy 4:1-8, noticing especially verses 7-8. Dear brother, I don't know whether this answer will be satisfactory to you or not, but I do know that it is Scriptural. I trust the Lord will use it to bless your life. Thank you for writing. I'll meet you soon in glory. God bless you. Pray for me. Pastor F. M. Riley
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false prophet Diane Walker listens to demons

It appears that false prophet Diane Walker's dogs are getting upset because of the demonic presense that she has brought into her home.

If an angel from G-d had spoken to her, he would have used haSatan not "devil". Since Diane Walker is a confirmed false prophet and she has been proven to listen to demons, obviously this is another one of her demon encounters. Of course it will be used as "fulfuillment" of the false prophecies that claimed the rapture would be on thanksgiving.

Absolutely no discernment on the five demons ("doves") web site - they blindy accept this as a word from G-d instead of seeing it is yet another demonic encounter (just like the several years of "angel" encounters that claimed that was the last year - and they all failed)

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Diane Walker (28 Nov 2008)"Woe"
dear John and doves,Yesterday, Thanksgiving Day, I heard and angel proclaim for the 3rd time in the last couplee of months, ''Woe to the inhabitants of the earth for the devil knows his time is short!''
I, along with others, have felt a growing strength and boldness in the demonic realm. My dogs have shown a heightened awareness too. When I take them out in the evening they are on high alert, do their business and run back to the house. They also have started barking for no apparent reason and even growling in their sleep. It's been very strange and I wonder, has anyone else been having similar experiences?God BlessDiane
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false prophet / wicked omen in terpreter 'Phil' - has to "confirm" other false prophets false rapture dates using previous failed rapture dates

false prophet Phil can't admit his fewllow false prophets has prophecies that failed so he is tying them all together to point to december 24 that the false prophets are touting as their "rapture date" in spite of it being unbiblical and not a Christian festival nor did Messiah Yeshua give the date (or any date) for the rapture.

G-d calls those that interpret omens like false prophet Phil DETESTABLE to Him:

Deuteronomy 18:10-12
"There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."

II Tim 4:3-43
For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

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Phil (27 Nov 2008)
"Olympics, Obama and Mumbai Terror link to Dec 24th"

Dear John and Doves,

From the Closing Ceremony of the Beijing Olympics on 8/24/2008 heralding "their" New Beginning to December 24, 2008 is exactly 4 months.

From Obama's 30 minute (read 1800 seconds) TV infomercial announcement on 10/29/2008 to the Mumbai terror attacks on 11/26/2008 is exactly 4 weeks.

From the Mumbai terror attacks on 11/26/2008 to December 24, 2008 is exactly 4 weeks.

So the Mumbai terror attacks split exactly in two the 8 weeks from the Obama TV presentation to Dec 24.

Randy informed us that this same day of the Obama presentation the Dow rose 888 points exactly 8 weeks from Dec 24.

And not to be forgotten is the Wall St crash of 1929 on October 29, 1929 exactly 79 years ago.

Keep tuned.

Blessings,

Phil
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false prophet Marilyn Agee's guaranteed rapture date failed in november, now she has a date for december

In a typical fashion, Marilyn Agee stated we could know the day of the rapture and that it would be on november 15, 2008. Once that date failed, instead of repenting she is now prophecying the rapture will be in december 2008.

If a false prophet is wrong - then they are not from G-d ----- yet the wicked false prophets of the five demons ("doves") web site are allowed to continue posting their false prophecies (and those who point out they are false prophets are banned from the site by owner satanist numerologist John Tng)

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Marilyn Agee (29 Oct 2008) "WE CAN KNOW THE DAY OF THE RAPTURE, Cheshvan 17, Nov. 15, 08"
From Marilyn Agee
Re: WE CAN KNOW THE DAY OF THE RAPTURE, Cheshvan 17, Nov. 15, 08

WE CAN KNOW THE DAY
"THE DAY THAT NOE ENTERED INTO THE ARK...SO SHALL ALSO THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN BE"
THAT'S CHESHVAN 17 FOLKS
JESUS SAID, "TAKE YE HEED: BEHOLD, I HAVE FORETOLD YOU ALL THINGS" (Mark 13:23)
By Marilyn Agee, posted 10-27-08
I'm no prophet, but it now seems that Jesus himself gave us the last clue we need a long time ago. It's so plain in Matthew 24, I don't know why I didn't get it before this. I knew it was in Scripture, but I looked everywhere but the right place, in plain view. I should have known that in plain view was the best place to hide something. What threw me off was Mt. 24:36, where Jesus said, "But of that DAY AND HOUR knoweth no man". After so many reminded me of that so many times, I skimmed over what followed it. Look what he said in verse 42: "Watch therefore: for ye know not what HOUR your Lord doth come." HE LEFT OUT THE DAY. In case we missed it, he even repeated it. in verse 44, he said, "Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an HOUR as ye think not the Son of man cometh." HE LEFT OUT THE DAY. That means that in between verses 36 and 44, Jesus revealed the DAY, Cheshvan 17, "THE DAY THAT NOE ENTERED INTO THE ARK." The wise virgins are not in the dark as to the DAY, just the hour. The foolish virgins don't know the day or the hour. Jesus put the day in plain view. I have read it over and over without realizing that in verses 42 and 44, he didn't say DAY AND HOUR, only HOUR (hora). Mt. 24:32-45 (KJV) says, "Now learn a parable of the fig tree (Israel, Joel 1:6,7); When his branch (klados, scion broken off for grafting, i.e., modern Israel) is yet tender (apalos, young, i.e., no more than 19, which she was in 1967), and putteth forth leaves (Gaza Strip, Sinai, Golen Heights, West Bank, in the Six-Day War of 1967), ye know that summer is nigh (the war started June 5; summer arrived June 21): So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it ('the kingdom of God', Luke 21:31) is near, even at the DOORS (symbol of the Raptures, as in Rev. 3:8, 4:1). Verily (amen, so be it, firm, trustworthy) I say unto you, This generation (i.e., those born in 1967) shall not pass (1967 + 48 = 2015), till all these things (i.e., both Raptures) be fulfilled." It looks like the 2nd Rapture will be in 2015 (Tishri 1, 5776). The 1st Rapture will be 7 years before that, i.e., in 5769. This year started on Tishri 1, 5769 (Sept. 30, 2008). I thought the 1st Rapture would be that day, but I had something else to learn, and that is found in this passage of Scripture. Read on. Continuing in Mt. 24, the Olivet Discourse, Jesus said, "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. But of that DAY AND HOUR knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. But AS THE DAYS OF NOE WERE, SO SHALL ALSO THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN BE. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until THE DAY THAT NOE ENTERED INTO THE ARK (Cheshvan 17), And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; SO SHALL ALSO THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN BE. Then (tote, at the same time, i.e., on Cheshvan 17, 5769; November 15, 2008) shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Watch therefore: for ye know not what HOUR (hora) your Lord doth come. But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an HOUR (hora) as ye think not the Son of man cometh. Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in DUE SEASON (kairos, set time)?" Lev 26:2-4 says, "Ye shall keep my SABBATHS, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD. If ye walk in my statutes, and keep my commandments, and do them; Then I WILL GIVE YOU RAIN IN DUE SEASON, and the land shall yield her increase, and the trees (i.e., nations) of the field (i.e., world) shall yield their FRUIT." We are called a kind of firstfruits. James 1:18 says, "Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be A KIND OF FIRSTFRUITS of his creatures." Cheshvan 17, 5769 (Nov. 15, 2008) is on Saturday, the Sabbath. It looks like we will go to Shabbatai (Saturn, the 3rd Heaven; II Cor. 12:2, and the 7th planet) on Shabbat (the 7th day). IN MARK, THE PORTER DOESN'T KNOW THE HOUR, BUT HE KNOWS THE DAY Mark 13:33-37 says, "Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time (kairos, set time, due time) is. For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch. WATCH YE THEREFORE: FOR YE KNOW NOT WHEN THE MASTER OF THE HOUSE COMETH, AT EVEN, OR AT MIDNIGHT, OR AT THE COCKCROWING, OR IN THE MORNING: Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping. And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch." At even, midnight, cockcrowing, or morning is describing the hour. The porter already knows the day. THE SON OF MAN IS REVEALED AT THE TIME OF THE SECOND RAPTURE Luke 17:28-30 says, "Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed." The Sign of the Son of Man will be seen in the sky as the Day of God's Wrath begins. He will be sitting on his throne, because the judgment will be made at the Judgment Seat of Christ that day. The Pre-Wrath Rapture will take place just before God's Wrath hits Earth. Again, we can figure out the day, but not the hour. There will be a Solar Eclipse a little past 6 PM on our previous day, when this Jewish day starts. I think it will be the Feast of Trumpets, Tishri 1, 5776 (Sept. 14, 2015). It can't be later than 2015, because 1967 + 48 (Mt. 1:17) = 2015Agape,Marilyn Ageemjagee@verizon.nethttp://prophecycorner.com/agee/index.html

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Marilyn Agee (26 Nov 2008) "Kislev 24 (Dec. 21, 2008) Rapture date"
From: Marilyn Agee
Re: Kislev 24 (Dec. 21, 2008) Rapture date

MAYBE THE RAPTURE WILL TAKE PLACE ON KISLEV 24, HANNUKAH EVE, DEC. 21, 2008, INSTEAD OF CHRISTMAS EVE
By Marilyn Agee, posted 11-24-08, updated 11-25-08
The 40 days of rain in Noah's day ended on Kislev 27. The Ark was floating free of the earth by that day. I counted 40 days from and including Cheshvan 17. It ended on 27 Kislev, December 24, 2008, Christmas Eve. I figured we might be Raptured that day. However, the Ark may have floated free of the ground a bit before the 40 days were over. It looks like Haggai 2:6-23 may give us the exact day of the Rapture. Haggai kept repeating the word "CONSIDER." This date must be an important one. Haggai 2:15,18,19 says, "I PRAY YOU, CONSIDER FROM THIS DAY AND UPWARD (i.e., the Rapture on Kislev 24, Dec. 21, 2008?), FROM BEFORE A STONE WAS LAID UPON A STONE IN THE TEMPLE OF THE LORD...CONSIDER NOW FROM THIS DAY (Kislev 24, December 21 in 2008) AND UPWARD (maal, exceedingly high, suggesting the Rapture), FROM THE FOUR AND TWENTIETH DAY OF THE NINTH MONTH, EVEN FROM THE DAY THAT THE FOUNDATION OF THE LORD'S TEMPLE WAS LAID (Kislev 24), CONSIDER IT. Is the seed yet in the barn? yea, as yet the vine, and the fig tree (Israel), and the pomegranate, and the olive tree, HATH NOT BROUGHT FORTH: FROM THIS DAY (Kislev 24, Dec. 21, 2008?) WILL I BLESS YOU." Remember the 21s seen by three people. David D. saw a miraculous brilliant white 21 in a blue cloud -- in his living room. Valerie S. and John T. saw blue 21s. The number 21 is also interesting because it is 7 + 7+ 7. Seven is God's number, and the number of perfection and completion. Dec. 21 will be the first day of winter, when the Sun turns around and starts its upward journey. Mal. 4:2 could tie in. It says, "But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness ARISE with healing in his wings". Interesting things that seem to tie in have happened on Dec. 21. In 1620, the Mayflower pilgrims landed at Plymouth Rock in their new land. In 1968, Apollo 8, 1st manned voyage to the Moon, was launched into space with Borman, Lovell and Anders on board. In 1966, the U.S.S.R. launched Luna 13 into space
Agape,Marilyn Ageemjagee@verizon.nethttp://prophecycorner.com/agee/index.html
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false prophet Ola Ilori - believes we are in the tribulation and the rapture will be on december 12, 2008

Never mind the tribulation begins when the antimessiah confirms a covenant with Israel and that did not happen at any time in october 2008.

In the wacky world of false prophets, they do not care if their prophecies line up with scripture - all they care about is having a following because of their "new found knowledge" --- even if the knowledge is from demons and it is wrong.

How do their lies, numerology, and false prophecies glorify G-d???

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Ola Ilori (26 Oct 2008) "12th of December 2008 : Possible Rapture Date"
Hi Doves,

I believe we entered Daniel's 70th Week on the 21st of October 2008. That Date was the Last Great Day of the Feast of Tabernacles. Daniel's 70th Week will last for 7 years and will end on the Last Great Day of the Feast of Tabernacles, which falls on the 5th of October 2015.

If I have understood correctly the rapture will take place on the 12th of December 2008.

The 12th of December 2008 is the 7th Biblical Sabbath Day after the 21st of October 2008.

1. 28th (29th Tishri) October 2008

2. 6th (8th Chesvan) November 2008

3. 13th (15th Chesvan) November 2008

4. 20th (22nd Chesvan) November 2008

5. 27th (29th Chesvan) November 2008

6. 5th (8th Kislev) December 2008

7. 12th (15th Kislev) December 2008

Its interesting to note that just under 2 weeks into Daniel's 70th Week, the Man of Sin was revealed. I believe this to be President Elect Obama.

He was declared the President Elect at 0600 hrs (Jerusalem time) on the 5th (7th Chesvan) of November 2008. That's just a Day before the 2nd Sabbath into Daniel's 70th Week.

Also Obama's eligibility to be the President Elect is going before the USSC Justice on the 5th of December 2008. That Date just happens to be the 8th of Kislev, the 6th Sabbath Date into Daniel's 70th Week.

Another point to note is that from the 12th of December 2008 to the 20th January 2009 there are exactly 40 Days.

Also experts are anticipating tidal waves and earthquakes around the 12th of December 2008.

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/nov2008/lewisb1121.htm

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/nov2008/ola1120.htm

Finally, if the Two Witnesses start their 1260 Day Ministry in Jerusalem on the 12th of December, they will be killed on the 25th of May 2012. They will be resurrected 42 hours later on the 27th of May 2012. That Day just happens to be the Day of Pentecost for that Year.

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/nov2008/ola1117-1.htm

Lets continue to praise our Lord Jesus! He is coming very very soon.

Ola.
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false prophet Frank R Molver "verifies" things with demons???

G-d never said to verify ANYTHING with demons - yet false prophet Frank R Molver says it is okay to go to "paranormal" sites to verify prophecies???

Once again this shows a lack of discernment on the five demons ("doves") site and shows that they are false prophets.

false prophet Frank R Molver needs to stop spreading demonic lies around, needs to stop making false prophecies, and needs to repent for his wickedness.

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Frank R Molver (26 Nov 2008)
"Clarification of Scott Walkington message please"

I appreciate Scott attempting to clear things up. This is what happens when we relay things, they sometimes morph. This got me because I stuck my neck out an spread it around a bit. If he did not say Bush and Obama I would like to know what he said. To me it seemed to verify the other words re Bush being the last president. But if it does not I would like to know exactly what he said please. Sometimes we use questionable sources such as paranormal sites because we are looking for verifying signs, this is dicey stuff. I am not saying Scott fits into this picture but I would like to hear the straight scoop. Some one posted that he said something would happen after Arafat which gave me a clue that something was awry. Could some one straighten this out please thanks.
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false prophet Mark Copfer predicts martial law and military callback before january 20, 2009

Let's see - Mark Copfer has been WRONG 100% of the time - so why are people still believing what he posts and following this wicked false prophet???

Any real Christian site would ban him instead of continually post his false prophecies and lies - once again the five demons ("doves") site is satanic and is in no way a Christian site in spite of the claims of its satanist owner John Tng.

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Mark Copfer (26 Nov 2008) "Re military call back soon"
Its going to happen, and when it does, its going to happen very very quickly.. it will have to be done to contain the martial law and civil unrest that is coming prior to the Dec 5th or whatever deadline it is for obama to show proof to the courts. and certianly before the jan 19th date. Watch and see how it all plays out...
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false prophet Mark Copfer ignorant of the bible

false prophet Mark Copfer is making all sorts of unbiblical prophecies and is now asking a question that can be answered by anyone who has studied scripture for themself --- once someone tells him the bible definitely calls the antimessiah 'the assyrian' will he stop guaranteeing obama is the antimessiah? I think not - he will just twist and contort scripture to fit his own false prophecies.

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Mark Copfer (26 Nov 2008) "Re:Gabridon: Antichrist"
Please show me the scriptures that show proof that the AC comes from the area of Jordon, Europe, or any other mid eastern country. Because it is not in my original KJV bible, nor my english translation bible, nor my hebrew bible. So please, I am interested in where you get your scriptures from. And thank you in advance.
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false prophet Nando - a license plate he saw was "a sign from G-d"

false prophet Nando seems to think he is the only one celebrating thanksgiving this year and nobody else will have thanksgiving company or deliveries - so a van he saw when he left for the store the license plate number was "a sign from G-d"

The "bible wheel" mentioned is a satanic ouija board the satanist numerologists "christianized" to make it acceptable to their followers

Here is what G-d says about interpreting of omens - including license plate omens:

Deuteronomy 18:10-12
"There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."

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Nando (26 Nov 2008)
"(NOV 25, 2008) to Tng and Jovial the 222"

Dear John and Jovial I do not know enough of the Biblewheel or the interpretations which you both gave to the 234 to know if they are correct or if any or both of you are correct. I am going to relate what happened to me today and you be the judge as to the meaning. This letter is typed at almost 11 PM, and what I saw happened at 6.30 PM and at 9 + PM tonight, before I read this article a few minutes ago. At 6.30 PM my wife needed some additional chocolate for a dessert she was to make on Thanksgiving and we were leaving to the market to get it. I live on a dead end street and when driving around to leave there was a van with the license plate 222 V_Q which I thought was strange, there are almost never car leaving our area at the time we leave, and that it was a message from God. My wife did not think so and we did not discuss it any more. At 9 PM we started seeing the program the Mentalist and in the program there is a murder on the second floor of a motel, and when the policeman is at the door the number of the room was 222. I told my wife, daughter and her boyfriend and rewinded the program to see if they saw or noticed the #. Not till I pointed it out. I knew it was a message, but did not know what it meant until I read Mr. Jovial post in fivedoves.com which is included below. I do not know the date for the rapture, but this to me is a confirmation of Barak(Blessing) = 222 as being the ACBlessings and hoping Jesus will come soonNando

Jovial (25 Nov 2008)
"Has the penny dropped and Tan's $2.34"

John mentioned a large number of words that added to 234, and how some of them involved Barak (ברך) as a root. However, Barak (ברך) does NOT add up to 234. Let me demonstrate....
BaraQ (ברק) [Lightning] = 302
Barak (ברך) [Blessing] = 222 (I think this form is his actual name)

There are some GRAMMATICALLY ALTERED FORMS for "barak" that can add up to 234, but I can make almost any word that adds up to something a little under 234 morph to 234 with the right grammar. John mentioned that "וברוך" adds up to 234, but that does not mean "bless" but "and blessed". Adding the two VAVs changes the grammar of the word. I can get it to add up to 228 by adding only ONE VAV (ברוך). I could get it to add up to 232 by changing it to "my blessing" (ברכי) much like derek (way=דרך), which adds up to 224, turns into 234 when it is dereky (my way= דרכי). But 234 is not pivotally connected to the Hebrew word for "Bless" (ברך), which adds up to 222 in its root form. However, the English word for "dollar" (דלר), when spelled with Hebrew characters, DOES add up to 234! So one would have an easier time making a claim that Tan's experience was predicting a 134% inflation rate than making a connection to Obama as the False Messiah. Not that I'm claiming that was the subtle message or anything, just that I am making a point about invoking some sense of logic to connect things together.

__ Not almost any word, Joe. Only 34 Biblical words (morphed or otherwise) are thrown up by the Biblewheel search engine. There are only 34 such unique words found in the Bible that add to 234. Given that there are 788,280 words in the Bible, and given the intriguing occurrences of BARAK, this is a significant find. John
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false prophet Mark Copfer is extremely confused

false prophet Mark Copfer reassures one of his followers the rapture will happen on Rosh Hashanah - now he is prophecying a christmass (or Hanukkah or thanksgiving) rapture - Hannukah has never been considered a Christian festival and thanksgiving is on different dates in different countries - the united states is the only country to celebrate it this week.

Typical false prophet fashion - Mark Copfer reassured one of his followers before Rosh Hashanah this year that the rapture will definitely happen on a Rosh Hashanah. Now because someone had a demon (they called it angel) visitation that claimed "Jesus" said He will return on a "christian feast day" - now false prophet Mark Copfer is touting a christmass rapture (never mind christmass is totally pagan and the only Christian feast days are the ones G-d gave - which are the very same as the Jewish feasts) - and, of course, he will be touting and prophecying a Pentocost rapture when the other dates fail (never mind he reassured his follower that it could not happen on Pentocost and told him it has to happen on Rosh Hashanah)

Yet nobody says anything about their failed prophecies and there flat out lies and the discrepancies of what they say from day to day. Why can't they just WATCH EVERY SINGLE DAY as Messiah Yeshua said to??? Why do they have to use numerology and license plates (G-d calls numerology an abomination and omen interpretors DETESTABLE) instead of believing Messiah Yeshua when He said they would NOT know the day or the hour??? They repeatedly LIE and post that they can know the day of the rapture - so why are they still coming up with NUMEROUS days ??? (even before the closest dates fail they are wickedly conjuring up other dates with their numerology and information given by channeled demons)

I will be glad when the rapture happens- leaving these fruitcakes behind will be a good thing

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Mark Copfer (16 Sep 2008)
"Re: Possible Pentecost 2009 Re: Jeff McGuire"

Jeff, not to worry... When the Rapture does indeed happen, it "will" be on Rosh Hashanah.. Paul does teach in 1 Corinthians 15:52 that the rapture will take place at the last trumpet. The "last trumpet" of 1 Corinthians 15:52 is singular, referring to one judgment, not a sequence of seven. Ellicott notes, "There are no sufficient grounds for supposing that there is here any reference to the seventh Apocalyptic trumpet (Rev. xi. 15), or to the seventh and last trumpet." The trumpet is blown throughout Elul (the month "before" Rosh Hashanah) except for the last day. The trumpet is silent because much about Rosh Hashanah is concealed and shrouded in mystery and satan is not to be given notice about the arrival of Rosh Hashanah.

So you can forget all about the rapture occuring on Pentecost, because that is just not going to happen. This is not what the jewish customs teach, and it is not what the bible teaches. I realize when a date comes and goes, people are anxious to jump on the next feast day, or holiday, or whatever. But that just will never ever happen according to God`s word. If people would study the Jewish customs, and Festivals of the Messiah, they would know this too. The problem is, they do not. And therefore are left to jump from date to date... God`s timetable revolves around ISRAEL, and the Jewish Feasts, period. Nothing else matters. The spring feasts of the Messiah were "Completely, Bodily, & Spiritually Fulfilled". The Fall Feasts have NOT been fulfilled. I believe that the Rapture will occur at the end of this month during Rosh Hashanah. I believe the end of the Church age is upon us, and that Daniels 70th week is about to start.. Take a look around you... pretty hard to deny.... We are indeed living in the most exciting times in the history of the earth......

Below is something that a Rabbi wrote.

The Four Freedoms

Four historical freedoms are mentioned by Rabbi Eliezer in connection with Rosh Hashana:

1. On Rosh Hashana it was Divinely decreed that the long barren Sarah, Rachel and Chana would bear children. 2. On Rosh Hashana Yosef was released from prison. 3. On Rosh Hashana our ancestors in Egypt were released from their work as slaves. 4. In the month of Rosh Hashana -- Tishrei -- the final redemption of our people will take place.

The source for all these freedoms is the shofar. Just as the sound of the shofar on Yom Kippur of the yovel year signals the freedom of Hebrew slaves, so does the shofar blast on Rosh Hashana every year signal freedom from the evil inclination which causes man to sin.

Freedom from the power of evil is the wellspring for all of the aforementioned four freedoms. Human bondage is not limited to chains. Physical handicaps, political oppression and economic dependence are all forms of bondage. It was only natural then that on Rosh Hashana, the day of freedom from sinful desire, three great women should be released from the physical handicap of childlessness. This pattern is repeated with the release from political oppression, expressed in Yosef's release from prison in which he was so unjustly incarcerated. It reaches national proportions when our ancestors are released on Rosh Hashana from the bonds of economic dependence on their Egyptian slavemasters.

But the ultimate national freedom is yet to come, and it too will be ushered in with the sound of the shofar. "And it shall come to pass on that day the great shofar will be blown" (Yishayahu 27:13). This is the sound of the shofar which will mark both the end of Israel's subjugation to other nations and human subjugation to the temptations of evil.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/nov2008/markc1124-3.htm
Mark Copfer (24 Nov 2008)
"Re: Getting close, getting darn close and when are the Christian feasts?"Frank, Hanuuka I believe is the festival of lights, a jewish feast. The Christmas feast, though Christmas was banned by our founding fathers, is the one and only Christian feast.....That's where I am confused by that other post, where she said Jesus told her he would come for his Church during a Christian feast. Somehow, since Christmas was banned by our founding fathers, is Thanksgiving a Christian feast ?? Im at a loss on this one, because I honestly dont know. But if Psalms 108 (2008) holds true, its either got to be Hanuuka, Thanksgiving, or Christmas.... One of the 3....
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Trés Bientôt - numerologist and license plate false prophet

I can't believe all the wicked omen interpreters who think a license plate is a communication from G-d (Yet they ignore Messiah Yeshua when He says we will NOT know the DAY OR THE HOUR and we are to KEEP WATCH)

Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."

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Trés Bientôt (25 Nov 2008) "DECEMBER"
Well done John for all your Penny Dropping Research. Awesome. Wow! Wow! Wow!Recently I was behind a car number plate DEC 91 (Which I felt could mean something might happen in December). 91 is 13 x 7 - a counterfeit kingdom number. 11th December, 2008 will be 91 years from when General Allenby arrived at Jerusalem on a horse but dismounted at the gate saying that someone greater would be entering Jerusalem on a white horse. AC - Rev 6:2 ? ? ? Also I remember many people disappearing from the Bam, (Iran) earthquake on December 26th, 2003.Of course many people disappeared in the Asian Tsunami on December 24th, 2004.If there is some world-wide catastrophe/attacks this December it could be the trigger for us all to disappear.During our travels I have been trying to keep up with reading Five Doves when I can!We are travelling again in the very near future - hopefully we will all be meeting VERY SOON in the air.It seems very strange trying to lead a normal life - like writing Christmas cards!Wonderful to have this Five Doves site where brothers and sisters can submit their well thought out research and contributions.God bless you all. from TRES BIENTOT (which means VERY SOON in English)! TRES BIENTOT
__Hi Tres,
Soon and very soon, we are going to see the King,Soon and very soon, we are going to see the King,Soon and very soon, we are going to see the King,Hallelujah! Hallelujah! We're going to see the King.Thanks!John
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numerologist false prophet Jeremy Hicks

Even though he claims that he isn't a false prophet, false prophet Jeremy Hicks is still a numerologist - and G-d calls that an abomination to Him. If the numbers were from G-d as the false prophets claim, they would not be wrong 100% of the time.

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Jeremy Hicks (25 Nov 2008) "A Thought for you."

Take this as a thought, not a prophecy. Thanks
Jeremy

November 23, 2008
Let see how things may add up.
1. The current Jewish Year started September 29, 2008 = 5769
2. The current western calendar year is = 2008
3. Add 5769 + 2008 = 7777
Question: When exactly is 7777 date year end?
1. We need 366 days (2008 is Leap Year)
2. January 01, 2008 to September 29, 2008 = 273 Days
3. Now we have left 93 days to allocate between both calendars. (MY Hypotenuse , Gentile 365 day year left)
4. 93 days divided by 2 (Two Calendars) = 46.5 days.
5. Add 46 days to September 29, 2008 and we arrive at November 14-15, 2008
Let’s take a Bible hint: “As in the days of Noah” It rained 40 days.
1. Take November 14, 2008 and add 40 days = December 24-25, 2008 Christmas.
2. We added 40 days to both calendars.
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The yearly "angel" visitation has been posted by false prophet Jim Bramlett (as I said it would be)

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As I predicted on october 27, 2008 (http://falseprophetwatch.blogspot.com/2008/10/my-prediction-not-prophecy-it-is-based.html based on the false prophet's track record - false prophet Jim Bramlett has posted his yearly "angel" encounter story --- only difference is, the "angel" this year did not claim the rapture will be before the end of the year as it usually does.

Seeing how the false prophets are somewhat predictable, I'm amazed they did not come up with some garbage the united states is about to end because the final state quarter (hawaii) was recently released. I half expected a 40 day "rapture warning" from the release date.

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Jim Bramlett (25 Nov 2008)"An angel in Taco Bell"
Dear friends: On November 23, 2008 I forwarded a message about the Bible, Barack Obama, and 2008. In it I mentioned some angel encounters I have investigated, confirmed, and documented. That was mostly back in the mid-1990s. I was surprised at how many people had an encounter to report. Most involved angels who showed up in time of someone’s special need, reminding me of Hebrews 1:14: “Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?” Surely, we all have encountered them, even if “unawares” (Hebrews 13:2). I did not document them all because at the time I was only interested in angels with a message about the Lord’s soon return. Mention of angels always elicits other stories, and I will share a fascinating one sent to me from a dear reader named Deborah, where the Lord’s return is mentioned. See below. Enjoy. Please do not send me an angel testimony unless it regards the soon return of the Lord, as I know the volume would overwhelm me. [Caution on angels. Beware of popular New Age angels, which are not from God. Typically, they do not honor the Father, the Son, or the Bible.] Jim _______________________________ Message from Deborah below: Dear Mr. Bramlett: As I read these articles tonight regarding the angels Vincent encountered back in the 1990s, I was struck by awe that I was reading of divine incidences such as these because I, too, experienced a similar incident sometime back in the 1990s, more like 1999 than anytime, but I am sorry to say I do not recall the actual date, or year. But let me just explain to you my encounter if you don't mind. My son had some friends that visited us regularly, and one of those friends was a little guy named Michael who unfortunately was living by God's grace on kidney dialysis. He had contracted a virus at age 6 and lost both kidneys. The doctors had told his parents he would not live to see 18, but he did live till he was a little over 21. It was near his final year that I had gained a close friendship with Michael and he with me. He did not fit in very well with the other "teens" like my son and his brother, but he took interest I guess more in someone older and thus we became very good friends. At any rate, Michael and I liked talking about supernatural things and one day while we went to eat out at a local fast food restaurant, we were discussing the things of God and how awesome God is in our lives. The restaurant was not crowded by no means and we even took note of two people near us and realized one of them was a manager and the other one was receiving an interview for a job...and as we sat and talked, I made note of a group of ladies sitting a ways from us in back of the restaurant...about 20 feet maybe from us...and looking around I just noted that there just weren't many people in there at all...and we both were talking rather normally, not loud or disturbing anyone...as I said, the manager near us was interviewing. But as we continued to share our joy in the Lord, out of the corner of my eye I noticed a rather large size black man walking towards us from what seemed like the middle of the small eating area (Taco Bell to be exact...they are not big eating areas)...and as he drew closer to us we continued talking but he stopped at our table and began to speak..."I have heard what you have been saying, and it is true..." forgive me, but it has been so long ago, the details are not clear....but I believe we both were a little amazed that this gentleman was close enough to our table, when we did not see him nearby or even at all till he walked up...but that he could hear anything we were saying! We both responded that it was just the way we felt about the Lord and how He is so good....He smiled and said Yes, He is, Amen. And as he walked on to leave, I remember turning toward him and saying "...and He's coming real soon.." and without hesitation the man turned and looked at us and responded with "Yes, very soon." We both were touched by this man's attention to what we were talking about and it seemed all too odd that an individual like him would be able to hear us at all when we did not see him prior to his approach and that he would take the time to stop by our table and let us know we were talking truth! As his car went around the building to exit the Taco Bell grounds, we watched to see if his car would come out of the driveway on the other side...as there was no other way out of that parking lot...but to our surprise, his car never came out on that side of the building...the side where he headed. We both were a little amazed at it all and asked each other "what just happened?" We both rejoiced in that we may have just encountered an angel ourselves. But the one thing we have in common here for sure are the words he responded to us with "Yes, very soon."...gives me chills now to hear of Vincent's encounters around the same time our encounter happened. Some may say it has been years past and nothing has happened....but to God years are days...so that holds no weight with me...I know God works on His time table, not ours. I just wanted to share this with someone I knew would appreciate it. Little Michael has since gone on to be with His God and Lord...and I am looking forward to seeing him again soon! I am looking forward to seeing my mother, and my mother and father-in-law, too. So, thank you for sharing these unbelievable yet so possible testimonies...as Vincent said...and we know "all things are possible with God"....Amen!! I thank God that He gave Michael and me that experience that day...it was just another way of Him letting us know He hears us and cares about everything that concerns us!
Matter of fact...it was not long after that encounter that little Michael's health began to deteriorate more and he went home to be with Jesus probably about six months later if my recollection serves me well. Perhaps it was the Lord's way of letting little Michael know that what he felt in his heart was true and that God appreciated him and me discussing God's goodness that day. All I know is I love the Lord with all my heart...I know He's coming soon...I discern it in my spirit, it's in the air....Jesus is coming soon! Very soon! Sincerely in Christ, Deborah
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false prophet Peggy McIlveene celebrates pagan holidays

When did G-d state it was acceptable to Him to "christianize" pagan holidays for Him???

When Ancient Israel did it, He called it an abomination (even when they had easter sunrise services in the Holy Temple) and He sent Ezekiel to tell them it was not acceptable - and they told Ezekiel to 'Go away, Ezekiel, we will worship G-d OUR way' (Ezekiel chapter 8)

Read Ezekiel chapter 8 and Jeremiah chapter 10 and you will see that G-d called Ancient Israel's easter and christmass celebrations an abomination. (and if you do not believe Jeremiah 10 is about christmass trees - then why do you sing 'oh christmas tree, oh christmas tree' ??? )

Peggy McIlveene admits that she knows that christmass and ishtar are pagan - yet she, like Ancient Israel, will worship G-d HER way instead of how G-d wants to be worshiped (she even eats pork and shellfish - going by the recipes she posts - in disobedience to what G-d commanded)

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/nov2008/peggym1125-6.htm
Peggy McIlveene (25 Nov 2008)
"TO Mark Copfer - "Re: Gettin close, gettin darn close and when are the Christian feasts?..."

Hi, Mark!
From everything I’ve read, Thanksgiving was patterned after the Feast of Tabernacles, which is a time of thanksgiving, so my guess is that Christmas is about the only widely celebrated “Christian” holiday. Even though the holiday has pagan roots, that is NOT the reason why most Christians celebrate Christmas… I can speak from personal experience. I know it came from heathen roots, as did Easter celebration, but I still celebrate it as Yahshua’s birthday, even knowing He was more than likely born on Feast of Trumpets that year. And even though Easter has heathen roots, I still celebrate His resurrection on Easter Sunday.

Love from your sister in Yahshua!
Peggywww.his-forever.com
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false prophet Frank R Molver claims ishtar (easter) is a Christian feast

Even the unbelievers know the origin of ishtar / easter. The bible says easter is babylonian and G-d is angry when Ancient Israel celebrated it. It is still observed by pagans in their fertility rituals.

weeping for tammuz - 40 days of lent
Ezekiel 8:14 Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD's house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz.

hot cross buns --- honey cakes for tammuz (and his mother - which is celebrated at the same time - read below)
Jeremiah 7:18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.

sunrise service at the Holy Temple - ishtar sunrise service
Ezekiel 8:16 And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD's house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.

Messiah Yeshua celebrated Passover and was executed during Passover --- which is sometimes a month different that ishtar (ishtar is based on the first sunday after spring's first full moon - very pagan)

http://www.allaboutjesuschrist.org/origin-of-easter.htm

Origin of Easter - Its Pagan Roots

The origin of Easter dates back to ancient times, not long after the global Flood recorded in Genesis 6-9 of the Bible. Nimrod, a grandson of Noah, had turned from following his grandfather's God and had become a tyrannical ruler. According to the biblical record, as king, Nimrod created Babel, Ninevah, Asshur, Calla and other cities, all known for lifestyles that promoted unspeakable evil and perversion. When Nimrod died, his wife, Queen Semiramis, deified him as the Sun-god, or Life Giver. Later he would become known as Baal, and those who followed the religion Semiramis created in his name would be called Baal worshippers. They became associated with idolatry, demon worship, human sacrifice and other practices regarded as evil.

The origin of Easter involves the birth of Semiramis' illegitimate son, Tammuz. Somehow, Semiramis convinced the people that Tammuz was actually Nimrod reborn. Since people had been looking for the promised savior since the beginning of mankind (see Genesis 3:15), they were persuaded by Semiramis to believe that Tammuz was that savior, even that he had been supernaturally conceived. Before long, in addition to worshipping Tammuz (or Nimrod reborn), the people also worshipped Semiramis herself as the goddess of fertility. In other cultures, she has been called Ishtar, Ashtur and yes, Easter.

The origin of Easter goes back to the springtime ritual instituted by Semiramis following the death of Tammuz, who, according to tradition, was killed by a wild boar. Legend has it that through the power of his mother's tears, Tammuz was "resurrected" in the form of the new vegetation that appeared on the earth.

According to the Bible, it was in the city of Babel that the people created a tower in order to defy God. Up until that time, all the people on the earth spoke one language. The building of the tower led God, as recorded in Genesis 11:7, to confuse their tongues to keep them from being further unified in their false beliefs. As the people moved into other lands, many of them took their pagan practices with them.

Contemporary traditions such as the Easter Bunny and the Easter egg can also be traced back to the practices established by Semiramis. Because of their prolific nature, rabbits have long been associated with fertility and its goddess, Ishtar. Ancient Babylonians believed in a fable about an egg that fell into the Euphrates River from heaven and from which Queen Astarte (another name for Ishtar or Semiramis) was "hatched."

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Frank R Molver (25 Nov 2008)
"spring has sprung, christian feast question"
Well if we think of the day of atonement and the feast of tabernacles it would seem to apply to the Jews. Their priest sacrifices for the Jewish nation. However as we think about the rest of us, including the Jews we thing of Easter as the great day of celebration, the day our sins were forgiven and the day that Jesus rose from the dead. So to me I am thinking this word applies to Easter time and perhaps pentecost.
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false prophet 'Kay' defends the five demons ("doves") false prophets

Or maybe ffalse prophet Jim Bramlett stole them from the matreya site???

The fairy tales Jim Bramlett has been posting for years ("angel" said it would be the last christmass - ten years ago? - obviously it was a demon or was made up)

Maybe it is time for the so-called Christians on the five demons ("doves") site to open their eyes and admit they have been deceived by false prophecies, false prophets, and lies that have been posted by John Tng and Jim Bramlett on their five demons ("doves") web site

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Kay (25 Nov 2008) "Thief and Liar!"

On Share-international's (MAITRAYA) website at: http://www.share-international.org/archives/appearances/i_appearances.htm ,

I clicked on "SIGNS AND MIRACLES" then found this link:

"THEY WALK AMONG US": http://www.mcn.org/1/miracles/walk.html

Among the stories that appear on the Maitraya website and his supposed appearances, they have stolen valid personal testimonies of true Christians and some valid Christian's angel encounters and incorporated them as unto their New Age Christ Maitraya, as though he had something to do with the work of the True Christ Jesus! These include the testimony of Batya Segal, which many of you know from Barry and Batya's awesome Messianic songs such as this one, http://www.acwitness.org/psalm83english.html as well as the hitchhiker stories we've heard about from Jim Bramlett.

This is an outrage that this devil has stolen stories of God's true angels and used them as his own to steal souls! Of course, I guess that's what Satan does best, isn't it--he is a known thief and liar!
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false prophet Cindy Busch - claims satanic holidays are Christian

christmass and easter are celebrations of the sun "god" ba-al (tammuz) and have their origins in babylon (do your own research and be prepared to be surprised)

Nobody celebrates ascension day except maybe catholics (who are not Christian)

Followers of Messiah Yeshua are GRAFTED IN to Israel --- even when Ancient Israel left egypt, the gentiles that were with them were commanded to obey Torah. When the gentiles were grafted in to Israel through Messiah Yeshua, they were to follow Torah. ALL of the early church obeyed G-d (Torah) and Messiah Yeshua said those who didn't, He would reject:

Matthew 7
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

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Cindy Busch (25 Nov 2008) "Christian feasts are going to be Christmas, Resurrection Day/Easter and Ascension Day"
Those are the days Christians celebrate or recognize. Another feast wouldbe communion/Lords supper-- this can be done at anytime, but the Lordcelebrated the first one with the disciples the night of before Passover.
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false prophet numerologist Wade Balzer - more garbage, another license plate false prophet

Now I've heard just about everything. I cannot believe anyone actually believes the fruitcake false prophets (but, sadly, they do)

false prophet Wade Balzer took a picture of a license plate - plate # FLEE -and since it was picture # P1030242.jpg. he claims the number of the picture - 30242 - is of prophetic significance???

gematria is Jewish mysticism - satanism

I'll just let the fruitcake speak for himself - if you can stomach reading such unbiblical satanic garbage
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Wade Balzer (25 Nov 2008) "Re: BG - Dream interpretation..."

Thanks for sharing your dream.
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/nov2008/bg1124.htm

It does make perfect sense to me.

YOU’RE WELCOME in Hebrew is normally:

על לא דבר = al lo davar = meaning FOR NOTHING.

Literally, WELCOME however is:

ברוך הבא = baruch hava = meaning BLESSED COME

Hence is the English WELL-COME.

Interesting as I write, I receive more because I am hitting on a TRUTH that only is waiting to be discovered.

I just now found this is only found ONCE in scripture:

Psa 118:26 ברוךH1288 Blessed הבאH935 he that cometh בשׁםH8034 in the name יהוהH3068 of the LORD: ברכנוכםH1288 we have blessed מביתH1004 you out of the house יהוה׃H3068 of the LORD.

Psa 118:26 Blessed be he that cometh in the name of the LORD: we have blessed you out of the house of the LORD.

There is a mystery here that continually seems to have significance. The past couple of days I have noticed similar words in Hebrew that may be worthy of note:

H1272
בּרח
bârach
baw-rakh'
A primitive root; to bolt, that is, figuratively to flee suddenly: - chase (away); drive away, fain, flee (away), put to flight, make haste, reach, run away, shoot.

Here is a picture of a license plate FLEE, I just took on 11/19/2008. My camera named it P1030242.jpg.

Verse # 30242 = Heb 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.

On 11/21/2008, the movie BOLT came out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolt_(film)

John Travolta is BOLT.

The interesting thing about John Travolta is that the movies that he has played in, or at least by title, have had a prophetic thread. Some of the movie titles have been:
Grease, Two of a Kind, Eyes of an Angel, Michael, Broken Arrow, The General’s Daughter, Lucky Numbers, Hairspray, etc.

H1299
בּרק
bâraq
baw-rak'
A primitive root; to lighten (lightning): - cast forth.
Total KJV Occurrences: 1

Psa 144:6 ברוקH1299 Cast forth ברקH1300 lightning, ותפיצםH6327 and scatter שׁלחH7971 them: shoot out חציךH2671 thine arrows, ותהמם׃H2000 and destroy

Psa 144:6 Cast forth lightning, and scatter them: shoot out thine arrows, and destroy them.

This word, H1299 is unique, but I am not going to spend time here to discuss the sound it makes.

About two years ago, I began working for a company and everything that God told me was also reflected somehow by a shadow in the company I worked for. Because I had been seeing the recurrence of 2’s for several months, as in 222, or 2222, or 2220, etc, one of the project manager’s last name was POOLE with a phone extension ending in 4222. The thought occurred to me to look it up on the Strong’s.

G4222
ποτίζω
potizō
pot-id'-zo
From a derivative of the alternate of G4095; to furnish drink, irrigate: - give (make) to drink, feed, water.

I noticed immediately the similitude between the name POOLE and DRINK, WATER. When I looked up the same number in Hebrew, H4222, it meant CLAP, but the first occurrence was in Psa 98:8.

Psa 98:8 Let the floodsH5104 clapH4222 their hands: let the hills be joyful together.

God had also told me before I began working there on 10/10/2006, to look up the name Hadassah. Other than it meaning Myrtle and being in a movie that was coming out, it didn’t mean much to me then. However when I found the similitude of the project manager’s phone extension with the name POOLE, I was curious since the person I was working directly with had a cubical number of double 19’s. (ie. 1919) That is when I discovered his cubicle number was the same as H1919 = Hadassah. Since earlier in the summer, God showed me a similitude between the name Elisha and Alicia, it was on 10/23/2006 that God revealed that the second witness would be a woman. Later, I found that Elijah found Elisha in 1 Kings 19:19. Furthermore, H477 = Elisha, and Gen 19:19 is the 477th verse of the bible.

A pattern hidden in scripture makes that connection clear.

The word, RHEMA G4487 found in Verse # 26000 has a gematria of 1299 and a verse gematria of 4222.

Luk 24:8 AndG2532 they rememberedG3415 hisG846 words,G4487

http://www.biblewheel.com/Gr/GR_Database.asp?SearchBy_VerseNumber=26000

Verse # 17016 has a Verse Gematria of 1299.
Pro 21:31 The horse is prepared against the day of battle: but safety is of the LORD.

Verse # 17017
Pro 22:1 A good name is rather to be chosen than great riches, and loving favour rather than silver and gold.


H1263 = Baruch
H1288 = blessed

H1272 = to bolt, to flee
H1299 = to cast forth (lightning)
H1300 = lightning

G1263 = testify, witness
G1272 = open

Luk 24:31
And 1161 their 846 eyes 3788 were opened 1272 , and 2532 they knew 1921 him 846; and 2532 he 846 vanished 1096 855 out of 575 their sight 846.

Verse # 1272 = Gen 42:19 If ye be true men, let one of your brethren be bound in the house of your prison: go ye, carry corn for the famine of your houses:

Verse # 18500 = Isa 42:19 Who is blind, but my servant? or deaf, as my messenger that I sent? who is blind as he that is perfect, and blind as the LORD'S servant? (Gematria = 2617)

H2617 = Mercy (first found in Verse # 477 = Gen 19:19)

H477 = Elisha

1Ki 19:19
So he departed 3212 thence, and found 4672 Elisha 477 the son 1121 of Shaphat 8202, who [was] plowing 2790 [with] twelve 8147 6240 yoke 6776 [of oxen] before 6440 him, and he with the twelfth 8147 6240: and Elijah 452 passed 5674 by him, and cast 7993 his mantle 155 upon him.

H1919 = Hadassah

Earlier I mentioned FOR NOTHING?.

Luk 1:37
For 3754 with 3844 God 2316 nothing 3756 3956 4487 shall be impossible 101 .

That is literally: No ALL RHEMA’s will be impossible.

That is a negating negative? ALL RHEMA’S are POSSIBLE with God.

Luke is the 3rd book of the New Testament: NT 3:1:37.

G3137 = Mary
G3135 = pearl

G3956 = All
G4487 = word (Rhema)

3956 + 4487 = 8443

H8443 = strength

Num 23:22
God 410 brought them out 3318 of Egypt 4714; he hath as it were the strength 8443 of an unicorn 7214.

H2322 = Hadashah

It is the only word that is a direct similitude of H1919 = Hadassah.

Mat 24:45
Who 5101 then 686 is 2076 a faithful 4103 and 2532 wise 5429 servant 1401, whom 3739 his 846 lord 2962 hath made ruler 2525 over 1909 his 846 household 2322, to give 1325 them 846 meat 5160 in 1722 due season 2540?

NT 1:24:45 à Verse # 12445 = OT 16:7:24 à Verse # 16724

http://www.biblewheel.com/GR/GR_Database.asp?SearchBy_VerseNumber=16724

Pro 12:4 A virtuous woman is a crown to her husband: but she that maketh ashamed is as rottenness in his bones.

The first occurrence of 2322 in Gematria is:

Exo 33:20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.

What is interesting here is that the Book of Esther is about the HIDDEN FACE OF GOD, therefore Purim is a celebration with masks.

OT 2:33:20 à Verse # 23320 à H2332 = Eve

Mat 7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? (Gematria = 12700)

Mat 11:12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence (5743), and the violent take it by force. (Gematria = 12700)

Ok? this may not make sense that I have placed this here? or mention it? but without writing another 100 pages or more, I have to stop somewhere.

If you want to continue where I have left off? start here:

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/nov2008/wadeb115.htm

What I am doing is bringing together elements that I believe are related to the second witness that are found in the numerical patterns in the Bible. But I suppose that until “she” arises, we are looking through a glass darkly at small pieces at a time. Hopefully this makes sense. Write if you have questions.

Blessings,

Wade Balzer
wbalzer@newjerusalem.org
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