false prophet Marilyn Agee is agreeing with false prophet Ron Reese that the tribulation has already started (what fools!) but she disagrees what date it started - she thinks it began on october 21, 2008 (never mind no covenant of any kind was signed let alone confirmed on that date) Of course, she's the fruitcakse that guaranteed a november 15, 2008 rapture too ---because "we CAN know the day" she claimed - in spite of Messiah Yeshua specifically saying NOBODY KNOWS the DAY or the HOUR of His coming and we are to KEEP WATCH (not setting dates) - a CONTINUAL NEVER ENDING WATCH (not settting a future date to watch)
Fruitcakse like Marilyn Agee and Ron Reese give True Christians a bad name because the world cannot discern True and false (and why should they - most of the so-called "church" can't either)
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2008/marilyna123-1.htm
Marilyn Agee (3 Dec 2008)
"Ron Reese: Beginning and end of 70th week of Dan. 9:27"
From: Marilyn Agee
Re: Ron Reese: Beginning and end of 70th week of Dan. 9:27
Hi:
> > THE FINAL SEVEN YEARS OF OCT. 29, 2008, THRU SEPT. 23, 2015
I too think the 70th week of Daniel 9:27 has already begun. However, I think it started on the 8th day of Tabernacles, Oct. 21, 2008. Counting by Jewish Inclusive Reckoning because the 2520 days are a block of time, they would end on Tishri 1, 5776, the Feast of Trumpets, Sept. 14, 2015.
This is perfect, because the Day of God's Wrath is on the Feast of Trumpets. Joel 2:1,2 says, "Blow ye the TRUMPET in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the DAY OF THE LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand; A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong (Gog's army); there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations."
I expect the Jubilee Year to be announced on the Day of Atonement, Tishri 10, 5776 (Sept. 23, 2015), and to start when Christ returns on the following Nisan 1, 5776 (April 9, 2016). That will be the first day of the Regnal and Sacred Year, Regnal because Jesus is the King of kings, Sacred because he is the Lord of lords.
The time between the Day of God's Wrath and the Second Advent has to be 7 months. Eze. 39:12,13 says, "And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land. Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified, saith the Lord GOD." He will be glorified at the Second Advent.
The year 5776 is a Jewish Leap year. Therefore, there are 7 months between Tishri 1 (the Day of God's Wrath) and the following Nisan 1 (the Second Advent) instead of the usual 6.
> > Revelation 8:1, which says, "...there was silence in heaven ABOUT THE SPACE OF HALF AN HOUR." We have all read that verse, but nobody had ever understood it. This is another one of those verses that cannot be understood until it is fulfilled. Why "half an hour"??? Why "silence in heaven"???
I think the silence in Heaven and Earth is when Jesus is seated as judge at the Judgment Seat of Christ. Hab 2:20 says, "But the LORD is in his holy temple: let all the EARTH keep silence before him."
Rev 8:1-6 says, "And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour. And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets. And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne. And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand. And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth (symbolizing the asteroid Wormwood that will impact Earth): and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake. And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound." The trumpets announce judgments that will all hit the Earth on the Day of God's Wrath.
Agape,Marilyn Ageemjagee@verizon.nethttp://prophecycorner.com/agee/index.html
Ron Reese (1 Dec 2008) "FOUND IN BOOK OF REVELATION--OBAMA'S CONFIRMING OF COVENANT ON OCT. 29, 2008!!!"
Hi John and Doves,
Very early in the morning, on Thanksgiving Day, I could not get back to sleep. This is unusual for me, but the Lord has been urging me to listen for his voice when this happens. So, I did. A scripture all of a sudden popped into my mind from the Book of Revelation. It was not a verse that I had read recently or thought about in many years. But the magnitude of what the Lord was showing me was breathtaking. I tried to go back to sleep, but there was no way. So my spirit man won out over my flesh, as I hate early mornings, and I got out of bed and opened to the Book of Revelation, mainly to read the context of this verse.
I was very, very confident that the Lord was giving me a BRAND NEW REVELATION, further confirmation that on OCT. 29, 2008, OBAMA CONFIRMED THE COVENANT OF DANIEL 9:27, thrusting the world into the Final Seven Years. I prayed to the Lord for more insight into this new revelation. So for the next 3 hours, I read and studied, especially Revelation, Chapters 4 thru 13. The main reason for so much study was because the placement of this verse was not where I thought it should be. It did not appear to be an easy fit into what the Lord was revealing to me. If I just wrote a letter to Five Doves, quoting this verse, and giving you what the Lord was revealing to me, very few would receive it.
I was sure this Revelation came from the Lord, so somehow the context of this verse had to flow with the rest of the Book of Revelation. I gained much insight during those 3 hours of study, and planned on sending a post to Five Doves later that day. Events of the day, and a check in my spirit, caused me to feel that the Lord was not quite ready for me to send the letter. On Sat. morning, I went back to the same Chapters in the Book of Revelation and studied for 2 more hours, after praying for more understanding and clarification from the Holy Spirit, until it all came together.
Before I give you the verse in Revelation and the awesome revelation and meaning behind it, I should tell you that I, personally, did not need this revelation from God, to fully believe that Obama is the Antichrist, and that the fulfillment of Daniel 9:27, and the beginning of the Final Seven Years, began on Oct. 29, 2008. The Lord has so miraculously and graciously given to me seven supernatural confirmations of this, that there is nothing anyone can say, that could convince me otherwise. For those of you who do not know what I am referring to, it would be very helpful to you if you first read or re-read my posts of Nov. 6, Nov. 7, and Nov. 24.
Because what the Lord was revealing to me one month ago was so unconventional to Bible Prophecy teaching, and was of such tremendous magnitude, I asked the Lord to give me a confirmation within 24 hours of my prayer. The Lord chose to give me, not one, but THREE SUPERNATURAL CONFIRMATIONS WITHIN 24 HOURS. That was the day, that the Lord dramatically changed my life forever. The Lord had called me to be a watchman many years ago, and for many years, I was faithful to that calling, preaching and teaching on end-times prophecy, and working 30 to 40 hours every week on my end-times prophecy ministry, in addition to my full-time job and raising a family. I was constantly writing newsletters and prophecy tracts, 36 in total, and sending them to my mailing list of over 5000 people. We have in circulation almost 10,000,000 tracts.
Now, in 2008, after 7 years of being on the shelf, our gracious Lord Jesus Christ has chosen to put me back into service for His Kingdom. On Sunday, Nov. 23, 2008, the Lord gave me THREE more supernatural confirmations that OBAMA IS THE ANTICHRIST AND THE FINAL SEVEN YEARS BEGAN ON OCT. 29, 2008. You can read about those THREE confirmations on my Five Doves post of Nov. 24. God's number of perfectness and completion is seven. So God has chosen to give me a seventh confirmation. But I did not need it. I am just the instrument that He has chosen to use to give it to YOU.
Many of you believe that Obama is the Antichrist, and many more of you are strongly leaning that way. However, only a small percentage of you believe that the Final Seven Years began on Oct. 29, 2008. Therefore, I am convinced that this revelation is for a GREAT number of you. To back up the revelation that Obama fulfilled the Dan. 9:27 covenant with MANY (MILLIONS) on Oct. 29, 2008, thrusting the world right into the 70th week of Daniel, the Lord is now giving YOU proof from THE WORD OF GOD of this truth.
The reason I have taken over 5 hours of my time to study this out in the Book of Revelation is for YOU. YOU need to understand that we are not just getting close to the end, but NOW THAT THE FINAL SEVEN YEARS HAVE ACTUALLY STARTED THE RAPTURE/SUDDEN DESTRUCTION/WORLD WAR III MAY BE ONLY DAYS AWAY!!! THE MAGNITUDE OF THIS AND THE NEW URGENCY OF WHAT IS TAKING PLACE RIGHT BEFORE OUR EYES HAS SO RADICALLY CHANGED MY LIFE!!!
Before I reveal to you from the Book of Revelation what the Lord has shown me, I feel compelled to offer up this prayer for all of you who have not yet received these truths into your spirit:
"Dear Lord, I ask now that each person reading this, would PRAY FIRST that if this message is from God, that they would be open enough in their spirits to receive it, and that it would radically change their lives, as it has done with me. Help us all to realize how close we are to MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS OF PEOPLE DYING IN WORLD WAR III, and all of the other judgments of the Book of Revelation. Reveal to us anything that might be in our hearts and lives that would keep us from the Rapture. Prepare us for the reality of standing at the Judgment Seat of Christ one day VERY SOON. Let us all sense a new urgency to be used by God, in new and mighty ways, in the SHORT TIME we now have left. In Jesus' name, Amen."
Pre-conceived ideas about the Antichrist, about the rapture before the Final Seven Years, and a 7-year peace treaty with Israel, at the very start of the 70th Week of Daniel, have kept the majority of Doves from receiving the message that Obama has indeed fullfilled Daniel 9:27 on Oct. 29, 2008. I have written about a GREAT MULTITUDE OF EVIDENCE surrounding the 7-year period of Oct. 29, 2008 thru Feast of Atonement, Sept. 23, 2015.
There were MANY different timelines coming out right to the day EXACTLY, the eclipses surrounding Sept. 23, 2015, the end of a sabbatical cycle AND a Jubilee cycle, and especially the end of ONE COMPLETE JUBILEE CYCLE in Jewish years. Combining all of these breathtaking cycles, timelines, and signs with what Obama did on the VERY DAY IT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN, should have trumped all of those pre-conceived ideas and teachings, but, sadly, for most people, it did not do that. Many of you need to re-read my three postings mentioned above. It is my belief and prayer that many more eyes are about to be opened to these truths.
COULD THE CONFIRMING OF THE COVENANT IN DANIEL 9:27 BY OBAMA ON OCT. 29, 2008, ACTUALLY BE REVEALED AND CONFIRMED IN THE BOOK OF REVELATION??? I want you to remember when I first received my revelation from the Lord, I had to immediately go to Strong's concordance and do a thorough word study on Daniel 9:27. Nobody, as of yet, one month later, has told me that they did their own thorough word study in the Hebrew language, and made an attempt to prove me wrong. Instead, most of you just continue on in your pre-conceived ideas and teachings from other well-known Prophecy teachers, and refuse to be open to the leading of the Holy Spirit into receiving these truths.
This is the same reason that I had to do my own word study. My own pre-conceived ideas about what I had been taught, that most of your are still hanging on to right now, made it difficult for me to receive these truths also. So, I am not really chastising you, so much as identifying with you. I remind you, once again, that in the 1st coming of Christ, the vast majority missed it because of pre-conceived ideas and teachings, that they were convinced the Word of God was teaching them.
On Oct 30, 2008, the Lord revealed to me that Obama was the Antichrist and the Final Seven Years had begun when he fulfilled the covenant on Oct. 29, 2008. After my thorough word study of Daniel 9:27 (most Bible Prophecy scholars have always put this as the very beginning of the 70th week of Daniel), and my THREE SUPERNATURAL CONFIRMATIONS WITHIN 24 HOURS, I was TOTALLY 100% convinced that the 30-MINUTE infomercial by Obama, with millions upon millions of people, was the fulfillment of Dan. 9:27. This was so unconventional to Bible prophecy teaching, that it took a thorough Hebrew word study, plus THREE SUPERNATURAL CONFIRMATIONS WITHIN 24 HOURS, for me to become convinced.
As I lay in my bed, on Thanksgiving morning, waiting for the Lord to speak to me, the verse that I had given no thought to in many years, popped into my head. I was so overwhelmed by it, that I opened to Revelation, Chapters 4 thru 13, and read, and re-read, and studied, and prayed for more understanding. The verse, which I am convinced the Holy Spirit gave to me, was Revelation 8:1, which says, "...there was silence in heaven ABOUT THE SPACE OF HALF AN HOUR." We have all read that verse, but nobody had ever understood it. This is another one of those verses that cannot be understood until it is fulfilled. Why "half an hour"??? Why "silence in heaven"???
In Chapters 4, 5, and 7 of Revelation, Jesus is giving John, the elders, the angels, and all the other creatures in heaven, a sneek preview of what is going to take place during the Final Seven Years. All of a sudden, something so dramatic and so awe-inspiring was about to transpire on earth, that all of heaven stopped to watch this long-awaited event that would thrust the world into the Final Seven Years--THE REVEALING OF THE ANTICHRIST!!! Never before recorded in heaven, had there been COMPLETE SILENCE. As this great crowd of witnnesses, including John, watched, the OPENING EVENT OF THE 70TH WEEK OF DANIEL UNFOLDED BEFORE THEIR EYES.
There was COMPLETE SILENCE FOR 30 MINUTES, as the fulfillment of Daniel 9:27 took place. The audience in heaven looked on intently, unable to speak, because of the MAGNITUDE OF WHAT WAS TAKING PLACE RIGHT BEFORE THEIR EYES. Daniel 9:27 and Rev. 8:1 were both being fulfilled at the EXACT SAME TIME, as all of heaven watched FOR HALF AN HOUR, the EXACT length of Obama's confirming, or strengthening of his platform, his promises, his COVENANT WITH THE MANY (MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE). For all eternity, the audience in heaven (except for John), had been waiting for this moment. No wonder they were all speechless. All of history was about to be changed FOREVER.
Unfolding right before their awestruck eyes, and their speechless mouths, was THREE THINGS of TREMENDOUS MAGNITUDE HAPPENING ON EARTH. These THREE things were the REVEALING OF THE ANTICHRIST, THE EXACT TIME FRAME OF THE FINAL SEVEN YEARS OF OCT. 29, 2008, THRU SEPT. 23, 2015, AND THE FULFILLMENT OF DANIEL 9:27, THE ONE EVENT THAT WOULD THRUST THE WORLD INTO THE FINAL SEVEN YEARS!!! And it would all conclude right on God's schedule, when Jesus Christ, the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, would return to set up His millenial Kingdom at the end of a sabbatical cycle and the end of a Jubilee cycle.
2520 days (360 days X 7 Jewish years), after the 30 MINUTES OF SILENCE IN HEAVEN on Oct. 29, 2008, is Feast of Atonement. This is by divine design, not happenstance, or coincidence. On Feast of Atonement, especially in 2015, when the armies of the world will be surrounding the Jews in Israel preparing for the Battle of Armageddon, the Jews will be setting up animal sacrifices, attempting to ATONE for their sins for the past year. In, the irony of it all, by God's divine providence and great, awe-inspiring prophetic plan, HERE WILL COME JESUS IN THE CLOUDS, WHO IS THEIR ATONEMENT FOR THEIR SINS, TO SET UP HIS MILLENNIAL KINGDOM IN JERUSALEM!!! Right on schedule. Right on Feast of Atonement, the Feast Day when Jesus is supposed to return. WHAT A MIGHTY AWESOME GOD WE SERVE!!!
This is why it is A SEVEN-YEAR COVENANT in Daniel 9:27, because it covers one complete sabbatical cycle of 7 years, and will end EXACTLY 7 Jewish years after it is completed, because at that time the Antichrist and False Prophet will be destroyed. There is no pre-planned condition at the beginning of the covenant of Daniel 9:27 that makes it a 7-year covenant. It is what happens at THE END of the covenant that determines the length to be 7 years, which is the end of a sabbatical cycle, the end of a Jubilee cycle, the final day of the 70th week of Daniel, and the destruction of the Antichrist, who confirmed the covenant EXACTLY 7 Jewish years earlier on Oct. 29, 2008.
There may be a peace treaty with Israel and the Antichrist in the near future, but it will NOT be 7 years in length and it will NOT be the fulfillment of Daniel 9:27. THE FULFILLMENT OF DANIEL 9:27 HAS ALREADY HAPPENED ON OCT. 29, 2008, WITH THE CONFIRMING OF THE COVENANT. TRY CONVINCING ALL OF THAT AWESTRUCK AUDIENCE IN HEAVEN, WHO WERE COMPLETELY SILENT FOR EXACTLY 30 MINUTES AS OBAMA GAVE HIS HISTORIC SPEECH that this was not the confirming of the covenant of Daniel 9:27.
(For those of you who have doubts about the main content of this posting, because of the context of this verse, I will be addressing that in Part 2. The exciting revelation is all in Part 1, my precious brothers and sisters in Christ. Because some of you have concerns and doubts because of the context of this verse, I feel I must address your issues in Part 2. What I will show you there, is a result of 5 hours of study this week in the Book of Revelation.)
Maranatha!
Ron Reese
rgreese49@aol.com
Ron Reese (2 Dec 2008) "Part 2-FOUND IN BOOK OF REVELATION--OBAMA'S CONFIRMING OF COVENANT OCT. 29, 2008"
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2008/ronr122.htm
... Is everything starting with Chapter 4 in the future, or is some of it in the past??? This is not necessarily an easy question to answer...
When you study the Book of Revelation, and you try to discern what the Lord has shown me, keep the above principles in mind. Hopefully, my first discovery will satisfy many of you, that, indeed, Obama's 30-minute confirming of the covenant of Daniel 9:27 on Oct. 29, 2008 , and the silence in heaven for half an hour in Rev. 8:1, were one and the same event...
mind. Hopefully, my first discovery will satisfy many of you, that, indeed, Obama's 30-minute confirming of the covenant of Daniel 9:27 on Oct. 29, 2008 , and the silence in heaven for half an hour in Rev. 8:1, were one and the same...
option. Revelation 8:1 is all that John was shown concerning the 7th Seal judgment. THE 7TH SEAL JUDGMENT HAS REMAINED A MYSTERY FOR ALMOST 2000 YEARS. Everything we have known about the 7th seal judgment is contained in these words in Rev. 8:1, And when he (Jesus) had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour. What kind of judgment is that, John? You give all this information on the first 6 seal judgments, why can you not give us more information?
It has remained a MYSTERY for 2000 years. All we have known about it was that the 6th Seal judgment was of such magnitude, that ALL of heaven was silent for 30 minutes, as they watched in amazement as the awesome 6th Seal judgment unfolded on earth before their very eyes. None of the other 21 judgments got the attention of all of heaven but this one. Nothing had ever silenced heaven before. Why the 6th Seal judgment? And why 30 minutes???
Because 30 minutes of silence in heaven was the ONLY clue we have ever had to go on for 2000 years. It was meant to be a mystery. It was Jesus who opened the 7th Seal judgment and it is now Jesus who is revealing the mystery to us. There was no possible way that anybody could have unraveled the mystery of the 7th Seal judgment until the event happened.
Why did the 7th Seal judgment deserve 30 minutes of silence in heaven and none of the rest of the judgments did? BECAUSE THIS WAS THE OPENING EVENT OF THE FINAL 7 YEARS!!! THE AUDIENCE IN HEAVEN WAS GETTING THREE FOR THE PRICE OF ONE. THREE THINGS WERE HAPPENING IN JUST 30 MINUTES TIME THAT WOULD SET OFF THE LONG-AWAITED FINAL SEVEN YEARS. No wonder ALL of heaven was spellbound, awestruck, and completely speechless! They had waited years and years for this to happen, and now, in just 30 minutes time, it was unfolding right before their eyes...
frame. The autumn of 2015 had NUMEROUS things pointing towards it to be the literal 2nd Coming of Christ.
Because it did not happen the way most prophecy scholars thought it would happen, it has not been discerned by most, at least not yet. Most everybody missed it the first time Jesus came, too, because of pre-conceived ideas, and because of what they had been taught. But I am here to tell you, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that the 70th Week of Daniel began with the fulfillment of Daniel 9:27, when Obama confirmed his covenant with the many (millions upon millions), on Oct. 29, 2008, and that Christ will return 2520 days later, on Feast of Atonement, Sept. 23, 2015!!! HALLELUJAH...
In Chapter 6 we have the first 6 Seal judgments. In Chapter 8, we have the first four Trumpet judgments taking place. The first four Seal judgments and the first four Trumpet judgments run concurrently, not consecutively. The four Trumpet judgments are simply giving us more details of the first four Seal judgments. All 8 judgments are a direct result of nuclear WWIII (Ezekiel 38-39), I believe....
This takes us to Seal judgment 7 and Trumpet judgment 7. Trumpet judgment 7 is sort of a mystery also. It is definitely not as obvious as the first 6 Trumpet judgments. It reminds us of Seal judgment 7, which was also a great mystery. Here is what the Lord has shown me as to why the revealing of the Antichrist is the 7th Seal judgment, and yet it is the VERY FIRST thing that happens in the Final 7 Years:
1. The 7 Seal judgments and the 7 Trumpets judgments are NOT consecutive. Most of these judgments, if not all, run concurrently...
4. In Rev. 8:1, the Antichrist is revealed. None of the 7 Trumpet judgments in this SAME CHAPTER could begin, until Rev. 8:1, the unveiling of the Antichrist, had taken place. Therefore, because the Trumpet judgments and the first 6 Seal judgments run concurrently (at the same time), and not consecutively, the first 6 Seal judgments could not take place either, until after the 7th Seal was opened....
6. This brings us again to the 7th Trumpet judgment, which is sort of a mystery, just like the 7th Seal judgment. Like I said, I did not have any commentaries or helps of any kind, so I do not know what others consider the 7th Trumpet judgment. But here is what the Lord has shown me. It is the entire 13th Chapter. Remember how the Trumpet judgments run concurrently with the Seal judgments and also how the Trumpet judgments reveal more details and information about the parallel Seal judgments. The 7th Seal judgment, from what the Lord has shown me, is the revealing of the Antichrist, by his confirming of the covenant of Daniel 9:27.
Well, guess what the 7th Trumpet judgment in the whole 13th Chapter of Revelation is about. Yes, that is right. It is ALL about the Antichrist and the False Prophet, referred to in this Chapter as the 1st Beast and the 2nd Beast. Great details about their reign are given to us in the 7th Trumpet judgment. In order for God to continue his pattern of paralleling the Seal judgments and the Trumpet judgments, GOD HAD TO MAKE THE REVEALING OF THE ANTICHRIST AS THE 7TH SEAL JUDGMENT, and not some other number....
Ron Reese
Rgreese49@aol.com
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