Special mention to the person who gets the wackiest most bizarre dream or vision posted on the five demons ("doves") web site. The dream / vision can be made up (they don't care) - the wackiest most bizarre will be mentioned on this blog. You do not even have to claim the dream / vision was given to you by G-d (they don't care about that either)
I'll be entering a few more dreamd / visions of my own - as soon as I create some more throw away email addresses I can use from work and free WiFi spots.
Exposing false prophets and false prophecies of those who call themselves Christians
Monday, March 30, 2009
Wicked numerologist / satanist John Tng - owner of the five demons ("doves") web site
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If you ever email satanist John Tng and show him in scripture that numerology is forbidden by G-d and G-d calls those that are involved in it DETESTABLE to Him, false prophet John Tng will claim "biblical numerology" is allowed by G-d (there is NO SUCH THING - it is a LIE from this wicked evil false prophet)
Unless John Tng of the five demons ("doves") web site repents, he will lead all of his followers through the tribulation and right to hell. He will be the first one to twist scripture to try and prove it was the "wicked" that was removed once the rapture happens.
Matthew 7
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/tng330-1.htm
John Tng (30 March 2009) "Re: John what do you think about these numbers?"
Hi Gina,Sorry I did not respond last week to your post. I meant to make a remark on Bob Ware's 55 grid in relation to the number. http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/bobware314.htmLook for the column where 666 is located. I find it fascinating that the sum of the column of numbers between 666 & 2701 (Genesis 1:1 total) is 60606 !!!!!!!!!Also, the Hebrew gematria of BHO, 501, is on this column as well.The average of the first 25 numbers in the column is 666. Guess what is the 25th number? It is 1326 -- the English gematria value of President Barack Hussein Obama!Of course, the Hebrew gematria of Obama, 55, is what this grid is all about!John
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If you ever email satanist John Tng and show him in scripture that numerology is forbidden by G-d and G-d calls those that are involved in it DETESTABLE to Him, false prophet John Tng will claim "biblical numerology" is allowed by G-d (there is NO SUCH THING - it is a LIE from this wicked evil false prophet)
Unless John Tng of the five demons ("doves") web site repents, he will lead all of his followers through the tribulation and right to hell. He will be the first one to twist scripture to try and prove it was the "wicked" that was removed once the rapture happens.
Matthew 7
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/tng330-1.htm
John Tng (30 March 2009) "Re: John what do you think about these numbers?"
Hi Gina,Sorry I did not respond last week to your post. I meant to make a remark on Bob Ware's 55 grid in relation to the number. http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/bobware314.htmLook for the column where 666 is located. I find it fascinating that the sum of the column of numbers between 666 & 2701 (Genesis 1:1 total) is 60606 !!!!!!!!!Also, the Hebrew gematria of BHO, 501, is on this column as well.The average of the first 25 numbers in the column is 666. Guess what is the 25th number? It is 1326 -- the English gematria value of President Barack Hussein Obama!Of course, the Hebrew gematria of Obama, 55, is what this grid is all about!John
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false prophet Ron Reese is back soliciting followers
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false prophet Ron Reese claimed the tribulation started on october 29, 2008 when obama had an infomercial. Then false prophet Ron Reese claimed the rapture would "for sure" and "absolutely confirmed" would be on january 11, 2009. Now false prophet Ron Reese is soliciting followers to send his pack of lies to on a regular basis. Want to be he will solicit funds because he is "called to be a full time watchmen" by his demons???
2 Peter 2
1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/ronr330.htm
Ron Reese (30 March 2009) "A FULL-TIME WATCHMAN IS AVAILABLE TO SERVE YOU"
Hi Doves, Below is an email that I sent to my mailing list over the weekend. I would now like to forward it to you, as I would love to include you on my mailing list, now that the Lord has commissioned me to be a FULL-TIME WATCHMAN. Just send me your email address, or anybody else's that you believe would like to keep updated on what is happening that revolves around end-time Bible Prophecy.
Maranatha, my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ. Each of you receiving this email has written to me in the past few months. I have been bombarded with about 2000 emails and have not had the time to answer all of them. As of now, this will change, as I have just retired 4 to 6 years early from the U.S. Postal Service, to fulfill my calling by the Lord to become a full-time watchman. I have left a very secure job in these tough economic times because the Lord has revealed to me and supernaturally CONFIRMED to me that Obama is the Antichrist and that 70th Week of Daniel began on Oct. 29, 2008, and will conclude on Feast of Atonement, Sept. 23, 2015.
I am 100% convinced of those two things. I am also 100% convinced that the Lord has lead me to retire from a very secure and very rewarding job, with good pay and great benefits, to become a full-time watchman. I will be sending to my mailing list, which now comprises about 300 people, anything important, relevant, and timely, concerning the end-times. I do not expect everyone to agree with everything that I write, or that I forward to you. That is not necessary to be on my mailing list.
I trust that each of you will give me a chance to be a watchman with you. Most of you do not have the time to search for relevant information and to keep up with all that is going on concerning end-time Bible Prophecy. I now have a WHOLE LOT MORE TIME than I used to, so I am trusting that most of you will let me do that for you, by staying on my mailing list. I will honor any request to be deleted from my mailing list at any time.
Here is what I am asking of you. Would you please forward to me anything important and relevant to end-time prophecy that you run across? If I consider it relevant enough, I may forward it to the rest of the people on my mailing list. I will try to use discernment in what I send to you. Most of the emails that I send to 5 Doves will be sent to you automatically. I want to be a blessing to you, so that you can be a blessing to others.
The other thing I would like you to do is send to me email addresses of people you are quite sure would like to be on my mailing list. You can also give me email addresses of people that you would like to receive my postings on fivedoves.com of Nov. 6 and Nov. 7, as a warning message. Those are the two postings revealing Obama as the Antichrist and the time frame for the 70th Week of Daniel. I will not add those people to my mailing list, unless I receive a response from them. Nor will I send them any more emails than those first two. You may also feel free to forward ANYTHING that I send to you, to whomever the Lord leads you to send it to.
In the next week or so, I will probably be sending you nothing NEW. With 300 people on my current mailing list, I have no idea who has read what. I have written several important emails. Several of you have received most, or all of them. Others have received none, or just a few of them. So, I will be forwarding all of the important and relevant emails that I have written in the past few months, over the next week or two to all of you. I am very sorry for any inconvenience this may cause some of you. Just delete the ones you have already read. The only way that I can blind carbon copy these is to send them to you as a group. Therefore, everybody must receive them.
In a week or so, I will try to send you NEW emails and important and relevant prophetic information. I will do my best not to bombard you with info, but emails are easy to delete, if you do not want to read them. I am confident that much of what I will send, or forward, to you will enrich and enhance your lives as Biblical watchmen. I am also here to attempt to answer questions and to minister to you. Thank you for allowing me to be a fellow watchman with you. JESUS IS COMING VERY VERY SOON!! LET'S SERVE HIM TOGETHER, in the VERY short time we have left.
Ron Reese
rgreese49@aol.com
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false prophet Ron Reese claimed the tribulation started on october 29, 2008 when obama had an infomercial. Then false prophet Ron Reese claimed the rapture would "for sure" and "absolutely confirmed" would be on january 11, 2009. Now false prophet Ron Reese is soliciting followers to send his pack of lies to on a regular basis. Want to be he will solicit funds because he is "called to be a full time watchmen" by his demons???
2 Peter 2
1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/ronr330.htm
Ron Reese (30 March 2009) "A FULL-TIME WATCHMAN IS AVAILABLE TO SERVE YOU"
Hi Doves, Below is an email that I sent to my mailing list over the weekend. I would now like to forward it to you, as I would love to include you on my mailing list, now that the Lord has commissioned me to be a FULL-TIME WATCHMAN. Just send me your email address, or anybody else's that you believe would like to keep updated on what is happening that revolves around end-time Bible Prophecy.
Maranatha, my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ. Each of you receiving this email has written to me in the past few months. I have been bombarded with about 2000 emails and have not had the time to answer all of them. As of now, this will change, as I have just retired 4 to 6 years early from the U.S. Postal Service, to fulfill my calling by the Lord to become a full-time watchman. I have left a very secure job in these tough economic times because the Lord has revealed to me and supernaturally CONFIRMED to me that Obama is the Antichrist and that 70th Week of Daniel began on Oct. 29, 2008, and will conclude on Feast of Atonement, Sept. 23, 2015.
I am 100% convinced of those two things. I am also 100% convinced that the Lord has lead me to retire from a very secure and very rewarding job, with good pay and great benefits, to become a full-time watchman. I will be sending to my mailing list, which now comprises about 300 people, anything important, relevant, and timely, concerning the end-times. I do not expect everyone to agree with everything that I write, or that I forward to you. That is not necessary to be on my mailing list.
I trust that each of you will give me a chance to be a watchman with you. Most of you do not have the time to search for relevant information and to keep up with all that is going on concerning end-time Bible Prophecy. I now have a WHOLE LOT MORE TIME than I used to, so I am trusting that most of you will let me do that for you, by staying on my mailing list. I will honor any request to be deleted from my mailing list at any time.
Here is what I am asking of you. Would you please forward to me anything important and relevant to end-time prophecy that you run across? If I consider it relevant enough, I may forward it to the rest of the people on my mailing list. I will try to use discernment in what I send to you. Most of the emails that I send to 5 Doves will be sent to you automatically. I want to be a blessing to you, so that you can be a blessing to others.
The other thing I would like you to do is send to me email addresses of people you are quite sure would like to be on my mailing list. You can also give me email addresses of people that you would like to receive my postings on fivedoves.com of Nov. 6 and Nov. 7, as a warning message. Those are the two postings revealing Obama as the Antichrist and the time frame for the 70th Week of Daniel. I will not add those people to my mailing list, unless I receive a response from them. Nor will I send them any more emails than those first two. You may also feel free to forward ANYTHING that I send to you, to whomever the Lord leads you to send it to.
In the next week or so, I will probably be sending you nothing NEW. With 300 people on my current mailing list, I have no idea who has read what. I have written several important emails. Several of you have received most, or all of them. Others have received none, or just a few of them. So, I will be forwarding all of the important and relevant emails that I have written in the past few months, over the next week or two to all of you. I am very sorry for any inconvenience this may cause some of you. Just delete the ones you have already read. The only way that I can blind carbon copy these is to send them to you as a group. Therefore, everybody must receive them.
In a week or so, I will try to send you NEW emails and important and relevant prophetic information. I will do my best not to bombard you with info, but emails are easy to delete, if you do not want to read them. I am confident that much of what I will send, or forward, to you will enrich and enhance your lives as Biblical watchmen. I am also here to attempt to answer questions and to minister to you. Thank you for allowing me to be a fellow watchman with you. JESUS IS COMING VERY VERY SOON!! LET'S SERVE HIM TOGETHER, in the VERY short time we have left.
Ron Reese
rgreese49@aol.com
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false prophet 'Jen' - the satanic "web bot prophets" are back
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Why do the false prophets continue to think that computer bots (web bots) can predict the future just because they pick up chatter from what the false prophets are discussing on the internet???
Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/jen330.htm
Jen (30 March 2009) "Will the Webbots do a hit on this one?"
I read that the G20 is suppose to start April 2nd, and on Urban Survival Website, the Webbots perdict a Mass Dissapearance involving the POWERS THAT BE. Well all the Powers that be will be together for 8 days during the G20 Summit. They will be out and about in groups taking inbetween their meetings. Could it be that during the TIME FRAME OF APRIL 2ND THROUGH APRIL 9TH, THE RAPTURE MIGHT HAPPEN? Urban Survival today called the G20 Summit the POWERS THAT BE. Just a thought???? YSIC Jen
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Why do the false prophets continue to think that computer bots (web bots) can predict the future just because they pick up chatter from what the false prophets are discussing on the internet???
Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/jen330.htm
Jen (30 March 2009) "Will the Webbots do a hit on this one?"
I read that the G20 is suppose to start April 2nd, and on Urban Survival Website, the Webbots perdict a Mass Dissapearance involving the POWERS THAT BE. Well all the Powers that be will be together for 8 days during the G20 Summit. They will be out and about in groups taking inbetween their meetings. Could it be that during the TIME FRAME OF APRIL 2ND THROUGH APRIL 9TH, THE RAPTURE MIGHT HAPPEN? Urban Survival today called the G20 Summit the POWERS THAT BE. Just a thought???? YSIC Jen
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Saturday, March 28, 2009
Yet another wicked false prophet / numerologist / omen interpreter Peter Reckmann
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G-d says those who use numerology (divination) and interpret omens is DETEDTABLE to Him. Yet it does not stop the five demons ("doves") false prophets from doing do.
Where does the bible say to use numerology let alone use the dow jones close as an omen ??? G-d calls such wickedness DETESTABLE to Him
Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/peterr328.htm
Peter Reckmann (28 March 2009) "DOW at 7776.18"
Hello Doves,Wasn’t sure if anyone noticed this but according to the secular Jewish calendar Nissan 1 started Thursday evening at sundown. But according to the Bible, the months starts with the sighting of the new moon. So, the new moon was sighted on Friday evening, not Thursday. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/karaite_korner_news/message/398Karaite Korner Newsletter #375New Moon Report - March 2009 - First Biblical MonthOn Friday March 27, 2009 we did not sight the moon from Jerusalem. The horizonwas covered with clouds. The moon would have been visible if there had not beenclouds and therefore based on the principle of potential visibility tonightbegins the new biblical month.There may have been observers who sighted the moon from other locations aroundIsrael but we do not expect to receive these reports until after Shabbat.Shanah Tovah!Happy New Year!****The reason that I mentioned this is that I was hoping that God would show us some sign on the first of the religious calendar, Nissan 1. I searched high and low and nothing really out of the ordinary. Then,When I woke up this morning I noticed that the DOW closed at 7776.18 Look familiar? It totally blew me away. Remember that on the 29th of September 2008 on the first of the secular calendar, the DOW dropped 777.68 points. Not sure what the 1 in there means, maybe some one will recognize it!Blessings, he is coming real soon!Peter
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G-d says those who use numerology (divination) and interpret omens is DETEDTABLE to Him. Yet it does not stop the five demons ("doves") false prophets from doing do.
Where does the bible say to use numerology let alone use the dow jones close as an omen ??? G-d calls such wickedness DETESTABLE to Him
Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/peterr328.htm
Peter Reckmann (28 March 2009) "DOW at 7776.18"
Hello Doves,Wasn’t sure if anyone noticed this but according to the secular Jewish calendar Nissan 1 started Thursday evening at sundown. But according to the Bible, the months starts with the sighting of the new moon. So, the new moon was sighted on Friday evening, not Thursday. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/karaite_korner_news/message/398Karaite Korner Newsletter #375New Moon Report - March 2009 - First Biblical MonthOn Friday March 27, 2009 we did not sight the moon from Jerusalem. The horizonwas covered with clouds. The moon would have been visible if there had not beenclouds and therefore based on the principle of potential visibility tonightbegins the new biblical month.There may have been observers who sighted the moon from other locations aroundIsrael but we do not expect to receive these reports until after Shabbat.Shanah Tovah!Happy New Year!****The reason that I mentioned this is that I was hoping that God would show us some sign on the first of the religious calendar, Nissan 1. I searched high and low and nothing really out of the ordinary. Then,When I woke up this morning I noticed that the DOW closed at 7776.18 Look familiar? It totally blew me away. Remember that on the 29th of September 2008 on the first of the secular calendar, the DOW dropped 777.68 points. Not sure what the 1 in there means, maybe some one will recognize it!Blessings, he is coming real soon!Peter
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false prophet Dawn Street contradicts Scripture and gives false assurances of salvation
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Messiah Yeshua said that He will reject those who call Him L-rd that do not obey G-d. He was talking about those who claim to prophecying in His name, casting out demons in His name, and doing other works in His name - He was not talking about those who just thought they were Christians as false prophet Dawn Street claims - He was talking about those who sincerely believed they were His while performing numerology, astroloigy, prophecying, and doing things they said was for Him. false prophet Dawn Street will never admit she is in the group Messiah Yeshua will reject so she had to twist around what He said to make it seem to mean something else:
Matthew 7
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Also - the five foolish "virgins" (the five demons ["doves"] ???) believe they are saved and are watching for Messiah Yeshua to return - then run out searching for rapture dates instead of patiently watching for Messiah Yeshua:
Matthew 25
1Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
2And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
3They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
4But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
5While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
6And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
7Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
8And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
9But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
10And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
11Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
12But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
13Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
false prophet Dawn Street also says she nor anyone else can work out their own salvation. The Apostle Paul said we are to do so:
Philippians 2
12Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling,
false prophet Dawn Street says "G-d knows our heart" as an excuse to do whatever sinful thing she wants thinking G-d will accept it because He "knows her heart" G-d says man's heart is desperately WICKED - so if you count on G-d knowing your heart while you participate in things He calls detestable to Him - you're toast.
Jeremiah 17
9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
Matthew 15
19For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:
Messiah Yeshua said He will spew out of His mouth those who do not obey G-d
Revelation 3
16So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
The false prophets do not believe3 they are sinning when they make false prophecies in Yeshua's name, use numerology, make prophecies based on astrology, eat un-kosher animals, or violate Shabbat (friday night - saturday night) or celebrate pagan holy days such as x-mass and ishtar (easter)
Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."
Jeremaih 17
27 But if ye will not hearken unto me to hallow the sabbath day, and not to bear a burden and enter in at the gates of Jerusalem on the sabbath day; then will I kindle a fire in the gates thereof, and it shall devour the palaces of Jerusalem, and it shall not be quenched.
Isaiah 65
3 a people that provoke me to my face continually, sacrificing in gardens, and burning incense upon bricks;
4 that sit among the graves, and lodge in the secret places; that eat swine's flesh, and broth of abominable things is in their vessels;
Like all false prophets and unrepentant sinners, false prophet Dawn Street wants a Savior from hell but does not want Messiah Yeshua to be L-RD of her life. Having a L-rd implies OBEDIENCE to them - not just a cursory "thanks from keeping me from hell but I'll live my life my own way"
So do you believe false prophet Dawn Street or do you believe G-d?
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/dawns328.htm
Dawn Street (28 March 2009) "To Tracy Dee"
Oh, dear, sweet sister. Do not beat yourself up. God knows we are weak and susceptible to sin. He loves you anyway. There is none worthy, not one. God looks on the heart. I know I am unworthy. I have sinned. I am not without blemish. I pray for forgiveness and I pray for strength. Even Paul said he was the worst of sinners and yet Christ died for him. I cannot work out my sin. You cannot work out your sin. If we could, why would Christ have had to die for me, for you, for us. He is holy. We are his creation. The creation is not equal to the creator. It cannot be. Jesus looked at the sinner hanging beside him and guaranteed that criminal a place in Heaven. This is what God has put in my heart. There are those who would deny the children of God a place in His Kingdom. The Law convicts and condemns me. Jesus' sacrifice on the cross forgives and redeems me. Go back and read in Romans 7 what Paul says about the law. Jesus does say that not all who call him "Lord" will enter the kingdom of Heaven. There are a lot of people who "play like" they are Christian. It is all a game of pretend for them, a political ploy or a role they assume. These are the ones who will be left at the Rapture. They have pride in themselves, in working through their sins to be found worthy. I have even met some who will condemn a sin in someone else but feel they can commit the same sin without penalty or remorse. I do not count myself as worthy to be in Heaven, to be raptured, to even be saved by Jesus' blood. How can He, the King of Heaven, love me that much? I prayed about it. I wanted assurance of my salvation so I prayed for God to reveal it to me. One reason I was concerned was my age at the time I accepted Christ. I was only 6-7. Did I fully understand the covenant I was entering? No, I came with the faith of a child, a very little child. God reassured me with the memory of that very special day in my life. I could smell the smells and hear the sounds. And I was reassured that I was indeed His child. My day? It was quite an ordinary day in hot, dry central West Texas. Our church was in "revival", the old fashioned brush arbor revival. I know it was Sunday afternoon because all of my family with the exception of me were napping. The only day my farmer father did not work the fields was on Sunday. He was asleep. I was outside playing alone. I was swinging under the mulberry tree. I could hear the wind twisting the windmill until it was spinning merrily along. I remember Dad's prize bull in the pasture outside the yard. I could hear the flies buzzing around the ripe mulberries and the bees (we had hives of honey bees and cedar trees full of bumble bees). Just your normal everyday Sunday on the farm. As I was singing, I sang the songs from Sunday School and made up songs to sing. God touched my heart. I realized that I was not ready to go to Heaven. I had not accepted Jesus as my Saviour. With that realization, came the conviction of sin. And I simply went to Him with the faith of a little child and He accepted me. I went in to the house to wake up my parents and to tell them. I was excited. That night at the end of the service, I went down to the podium and publicly accepted Christ. I remember my granny (great grandma) got all excited and as she was a "holy roller", she began to roll left to right and back again and say things like "Praise the Lord" and "Thank you Jesus". I had never seen her in such a state so I was afraid she was dying or having a heart attack or something and I started to cry. The evangelist (don't remember his name but I remember he was from Mineral Wells, TX) thought I was "overcome" and he began to pat me consolingly. As soon as I was loose, I ran to check on her and was relieved to find that her tears were of joy and she was okay, just happy. Our pastor took me into the church building to talk to me and wanted me to pray with him. I "God blessed" everybody I could think of, like I did at bedtime prayers. He looked at me puzzled and said something to the effect of "Dawn, you prayed for everybody except yourself." I don't remember what I said to him, but I thought "Why not?" because I had already accepted Jesus. I did not fully understand the commitment. I did not understand the concept of the covenant. I just knew that Jesus was living in my heart and I was happy and at peace. The understanding came later after trials, troubles, maturity, experience with the sinful nature - after all that I understand the need for my Saviour to be more than just a ticket to Heaven. More than a ride out of the danger of the Rapture. I experienced Him and His Way became my life's way. I grew in my knowledge of Him. I learned to love Him. I learned to trust Him all over again with the faith of a child, His child. Do I believe I will be Raptured? I sure do. Do I still sin? Of course I do because I am a sinner saved by grace. Do I have unconfessed sin in my life? Quite possibly. My prayer is that God will reveal it to me so I can confess it. Now every once in a while, Satan rides along with me in my car on the way to work. And he is a lousy conversationalist because he enjoys tormenting me with the memory of my sins. And these are the sins I am aware of and have confessed to God. And Satan says to me "You are a dirty sinner. There is no way God is going to let the likes of you into His Kingdom." That is when I pray and call upon Him who has saved me. I just talk to Him about what Satan is telling me. I remind myself through my prayers that I have already confessed this and that sin and have been forgiven. God has thrown them so far away, they will never return to haunt me. And Satan goes away and God and I have a pleasant ride into the City where I work. You are watching for His return or you would not be at the Five Doves website. You are seeking Him. Why wouldn't He take you when He comes for His Bride, the true Church?
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Messiah Yeshua said that He will reject those who call Him L-rd that do not obey G-d. He was talking about those who claim to prophecying in His name, casting out demons in His name, and doing other works in His name - He was not talking about those who just thought they were Christians as false prophet Dawn Street claims - He was talking about those who sincerely believed they were His while performing numerology, astroloigy, prophecying, and doing things they said was for Him. false prophet Dawn Street will never admit she is in the group Messiah Yeshua will reject so she had to twist around what He said to make it seem to mean something else:
Matthew 7
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Also - the five foolish "virgins" (the five demons ["doves"] ???) believe they are saved and are watching for Messiah Yeshua to return - then run out searching for rapture dates instead of patiently watching for Messiah Yeshua:
Matthew 25
1Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
2And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
3They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
4But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
5While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
6And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
7Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
8And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
9But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
10And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
11Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
12But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
13Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
false prophet Dawn Street also says she nor anyone else can work out their own salvation. The Apostle Paul said we are to do so:
Philippians 2
12Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling,
false prophet Dawn Street says "G-d knows our heart" as an excuse to do whatever sinful thing she wants thinking G-d will accept it because He "knows her heart" G-d says man's heart is desperately WICKED - so if you count on G-d knowing your heart while you participate in things He calls detestable to Him - you're toast.
Jeremiah 17
9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
Matthew 15
19For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:
Messiah Yeshua said He will spew out of His mouth those who do not obey G-d
Revelation 3
16So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
The false prophets do not believe3 they are sinning when they make false prophecies in Yeshua's name, use numerology, make prophecies based on astrology, eat un-kosher animals, or violate Shabbat (friday night - saturday night) or celebrate pagan holy days such as x-mass and ishtar (easter)
Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."
Jeremaih 17
27 But if ye will not hearken unto me to hallow the sabbath day, and not to bear a burden and enter in at the gates of Jerusalem on the sabbath day; then will I kindle a fire in the gates thereof, and it shall devour the palaces of Jerusalem, and it shall not be quenched.
Isaiah 65
3 a people that provoke me to my face continually, sacrificing in gardens, and burning incense upon bricks;
4 that sit among the graves, and lodge in the secret places; that eat swine's flesh, and broth of abominable things is in their vessels;
Like all false prophets and unrepentant sinners, false prophet Dawn Street wants a Savior from hell but does not want Messiah Yeshua to be L-RD of her life. Having a L-rd implies OBEDIENCE to them - not just a cursory "thanks from keeping me from hell but I'll live my life my own way"
So do you believe false prophet Dawn Street or do you believe G-d?
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Dawn Street (28 March 2009) "To Tracy Dee"
Oh, dear, sweet sister. Do not beat yourself up. God knows we are weak and susceptible to sin. He loves you anyway. There is none worthy, not one. God looks on the heart. I know I am unworthy. I have sinned. I am not without blemish. I pray for forgiveness and I pray for strength. Even Paul said he was the worst of sinners and yet Christ died for him. I cannot work out my sin. You cannot work out your sin. If we could, why would Christ have had to die for me, for you, for us. He is holy. We are his creation. The creation is not equal to the creator. It cannot be. Jesus looked at the sinner hanging beside him and guaranteed that criminal a place in Heaven. This is what God has put in my heart. There are those who would deny the children of God a place in His Kingdom. The Law convicts and condemns me. Jesus' sacrifice on the cross forgives and redeems me. Go back and read in Romans 7 what Paul says about the law. Jesus does say that not all who call him "Lord" will enter the kingdom of Heaven. There are a lot of people who "play like" they are Christian. It is all a game of pretend for them, a political ploy or a role they assume. These are the ones who will be left at the Rapture. They have pride in themselves, in working through their sins to be found worthy. I have even met some who will condemn a sin in someone else but feel they can commit the same sin without penalty or remorse. I do not count myself as worthy to be in Heaven, to be raptured, to even be saved by Jesus' blood. How can He, the King of Heaven, love me that much? I prayed about it. I wanted assurance of my salvation so I prayed for God to reveal it to me. One reason I was concerned was my age at the time I accepted Christ. I was only 6-7. Did I fully understand the covenant I was entering? No, I came with the faith of a child, a very little child. God reassured me with the memory of that very special day in my life. I could smell the smells and hear the sounds. And I was reassured that I was indeed His child. My day? It was quite an ordinary day in hot, dry central West Texas. Our church was in "revival", the old fashioned brush arbor revival. I know it was Sunday afternoon because all of my family with the exception of me were napping. The only day my farmer father did not work the fields was on Sunday. He was asleep. I was outside playing alone. I was swinging under the mulberry tree. I could hear the wind twisting the windmill until it was spinning merrily along. I remember Dad's prize bull in the pasture outside the yard. I could hear the flies buzzing around the ripe mulberries and the bees (we had hives of honey bees and cedar trees full of bumble bees). Just your normal everyday Sunday on the farm. As I was singing, I sang the songs from Sunday School and made up songs to sing. God touched my heart. I realized that I was not ready to go to Heaven. I had not accepted Jesus as my Saviour. With that realization, came the conviction of sin. And I simply went to Him with the faith of a little child and He accepted me. I went in to the house to wake up my parents and to tell them. I was excited. That night at the end of the service, I went down to the podium and publicly accepted Christ. I remember my granny (great grandma) got all excited and as she was a "holy roller", she began to roll left to right and back again and say things like "Praise the Lord" and "Thank you Jesus". I had never seen her in such a state so I was afraid she was dying or having a heart attack or something and I started to cry. The evangelist (don't remember his name but I remember he was from Mineral Wells, TX) thought I was "overcome" and he began to pat me consolingly. As soon as I was loose, I ran to check on her and was relieved to find that her tears were of joy and she was okay, just happy. Our pastor took me into the church building to talk to me and wanted me to pray with him. I "God blessed" everybody I could think of, like I did at bedtime prayers. He looked at me puzzled and said something to the effect of "Dawn, you prayed for everybody except yourself." I don't remember what I said to him, but I thought "Why not?" because I had already accepted Jesus. I did not fully understand the commitment. I did not understand the concept of the covenant. I just knew that Jesus was living in my heart and I was happy and at peace. The understanding came later after trials, troubles, maturity, experience with the sinful nature - after all that I understand the need for my Saviour to be more than just a ticket to Heaven. More than a ride out of the danger of the Rapture. I experienced Him and His Way became my life's way. I grew in my knowledge of Him. I learned to love Him. I learned to trust Him all over again with the faith of a child, His child. Do I believe I will be Raptured? I sure do. Do I still sin? Of course I do because I am a sinner saved by grace. Do I have unconfessed sin in my life? Quite possibly. My prayer is that God will reveal it to me so I can confess it. Now every once in a while, Satan rides along with me in my car on the way to work. And he is a lousy conversationalist because he enjoys tormenting me with the memory of my sins. And these are the sins I am aware of and have confessed to God. And Satan says to me "You are a dirty sinner. There is no way God is going to let the likes of you into His Kingdom." That is when I pray and call upon Him who has saved me. I just talk to Him about what Satan is telling me. I remind myself through my prayers that I have already confessed this and that sin and have been forgiven. God has thrown them so far away, they will never return to haunt me. And Satan goes away and God and I have a pleasant ride into the City where I work. You are watching for His return or you would not be at the Five Doves website. You are seeking Him. Why wouldn't He take you when He comes for His Bride, the true Church?
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Numerous false prophets reassuring other false prophets that they are saved and going in the rapture
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One thing for sure - the false prophets of the five demons ("doves") web site will not recognize that the rapture happened when it does because ALL of them will be left behind unless they repent of their wickedness. They will claim it was something else (maybe a government project "project bluebeam" some are already spreading the lie about to explain the rapture away when they miss it) because they are still here.
Messiah Yeshua said He will reject those who are not obeying G-d --- even if they claim to be His:
Matthew 7
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Revelation 3
To the Church in Philadelphia
7"To the angel of the church in Philadelphia write: These are the words of him who is holy and true, who holds the key of David. What he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open. 8I know your deeds. See, I have placed before you an open door that no one can shut. I know that you have little strength, yet you have kept my word and have not denied my name. 9I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars—I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you. 10Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come upon the whole world to test those who live on the earth. 11I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your crown. 12Him who overcomes I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will he leave it. I will write on him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on him my new name. 13He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.
To the Church in Laodicea
14"To the angel of the church in Laodicea write: These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the ruler of God's creation. 15I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! 16So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth. 17You say, 'I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.' But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked. 18I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see. 19Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline. So be earnest, and repent. 20Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me. 21To him who overcomes, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I overcame and sat down with my Father on his throne. 22He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches."
Anyone who gives a blanket reassurance of salvation is a false prophet. Unless you obey G-d (ie: TORAH) then Messiah Yeshua will reject you and spew you out of His mouth.
numerous false prophets, below, are giving this false assurance of salvation to deceive people into thinking they are saved even when they do not obey G-d or follow Yeshua as MESSIAH (ie: L-rd as well as Savior)
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Michael Westphall (28 March 2009) "To Tracy Dee And All Whose Faith Is Shaken As To Whether Or Not"
Tracy and all, we are not appointed to His wrath, for who could stand then. He has made a covenant with His blood. Who among us can ever stand on his or her works. I have to ask those that advertise we will be divided at the rapture, can you specifically tell me where the "Line" is drawn that will differentiate who is to be taken and who isn't? I dare say that you can't do that. The line was drawn at Calvary. It was red like crimson. All those that "know" Christ will be taken. The scripture plainly says that the Lord knows those that are His. If you are His, then you are known, and being known is a marvelous thing.
We all know those that "say they have works, but do not." Those are the ones that have no fear of judgement, the word is far from their hearts, they sin while in the presence of sinners and it doesn't have an impact on them. The saved of the Lord may sin, but it breaks their heart. They so much want to be honorable to the Lord, but the flesh sometimes wins. When that happens, they know that there is a place they can go to be washed up. Man, but it is a wonderful tub, filled with the best soap money can't buy. Jump in all and use the sponge of God to clean the filth off! Remember, His mercy is new every morning. Was He just kidding when He said that? No, not at all. Grant it, if one is not wanting to jump in and be cleansed, then that person does need to check out his salvation, whether it be genuine.
Let us all rest in His mercy and grace. That is the only thing that will stand. He is able to make us to stand, so let's move on and let God be glorified in our lives. Blessing to all the Doves. See you in the air soon.
Michael Westphall
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Frank R Molver (28 March 2009) "re rapture terror and few"
I imagine you will get lots of letters re this. Most will probably say don't worry.First of all, the fact that you are upset with something you have a problem with is a good sign.That means you have consciousness of a problem, this is something that may be totaly lacking in the foolish ones.That's a good thing. But if it truly not a sin then it is the devil wearing you down. Then it is a bad thing. If you are obsessed with it you probably need to get some wise counseling and intervention if it is a stronghold.I have done that before and it works. I have to say that the warning visions I received indicate that many have been sidetracked with sin and they are not ready.The argument about this situation will be over when the rapture happens. 2 types of people you should not listen to are those who say everyone will be raptured, that ignores the responsiblity we have in obeying Christ, that is a real bad idea.The other type is the ones who say that only a few make it and barely so, that would be planting fear and doubt into your heart which will grow into an unfruitful tree. It is a serious issue you bring up and I am sure you are not the only one thinking of it. Confession is good for the soul and God can use it to humble and refine us. I have had to confess some pretty bad things myself, it is part of the healing process. I am sure you would not want this thing keeping out of heaven if indeed that is the problem. Either way seek wise council. If you are in NY go to see some one at Wilkerson's church or ask God to lead you to some one.
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Oriole Campbell (28 March 2009) "To Tracy Dee re rapture terror"
Tracy, there is much I could offer you for comfort, and if you want more, then please contact me through John - that ok John?
The bottom line is that Jesus will keep all those that the Father has given Him. Read John 17.
Phil 1:6 states that He who began a good work in you will perform it UNTIL the day of Jesus Christ.
Eph 5:25-27 tells us that Jesus will present to Himself a bride that He has perfected and cleansed. It is His responsibility, not ours.
His amazing grace keeps us and holds us and presents us perfect and unblemished to His Father. He is always on the right hand of His Father interceding for us (Heb 7:25).
We know that when we confess our sin, He is faithful and just and cleanses us, making us yet again, pure in His sight. (1 John !:9)
Romans 6 speaks much about the grace of God toward us, and chapter 6:1-2 poses the rhetorical question "shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? God forbid!", thus indicating that we are not to be careless of His incredible grace - not to take it for granted.
As a Christian counsellor, perhaps I could help you overcome your besetting sin?
The Lord bless you, Tracy. Know that He is mightier than all your sin and that He will see you through until His great day.
Oriole
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Rene (28 March 2009) "to Tracy Dee - re rapture terror"
Tracy:
Please see this video - I believe it will help you more than anything else----- and others who keep doubting their salvation and believe that God is going to take only bits and pieces of his body at the rapture....
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Rene
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Steve Coerper (28 March 2009) "Re: Tracy Dee and 'rapture terror'"
Re: http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/tracyd327.htm
Dear Tracy -
NO ONE "deserves" to be part of the Bride of Christ. In fact, except for the blood of Christ, NO ONE deserves heaven. We all know that. A person becomes part of the Bride of Christ because of a decision Christ made and ratified in His blood 2,000 years ago.
What I see is a fear of disqualification due to what you call "besetting sin." I'm a little unclear on this, so don't know if my counsel will be germane, but if you are caught in some sort of recurring sinful behavior, which appears to be the case, then as soon as you see yourself slipping, this should trigger praise to God and meditation on what Jesus Christ has done for you. Take your focus totally off yourself, your flesh, your temptation, and your circumstances. Focus completely on Jesus Christ and His sacrifice for you, His love for you, and His provision for you. Then engage in something purposeful that will take you away from the circumstances that lead to sin. Read and memorize Psalm 1 - meditate on God's Law. "Great peace have they who love Thy law, and nothing shall cause them to stumble." (Psalm 119:165)
I think quite a few Christians will be surprised because Jesus said, "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments," and most Christians haven't a clue what this means. All they know is the Gospel of John Lennon: "All you need is love." Faith is not just good feelings. But that's a whole 'nuther discussion. Subjective faith can be plagued by doubt, because subjective faith is anchored in feelings, and feelings change. Biblical faith is anchored in historical facts and always produces obedience.
Have an accountability or "praise partner" who you trust and who can be available to you. Call her on the phone for mutual prayer and praise.
Our carnal natures are dying or, if you prefer, they are being FIRED by our spiritual natures. The flesh resents and resists this.
Do not fear being left behind. God will place you and keep you according to His sovereign will, and we know from Romans 8:28 that it will be for your good.
Peace is of the Holy Spirit. Fear is of the devil. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.
I hope something in these random thoughts is helpful. I'm sure plenty of other readers will weigh in with their suggestions and encouragement.
See you in May.
Steve
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Dave Molina (28 March 2009) "to: Tracy Re: Rapture Terror"
Tracy,I think that the enemy has planted this fear in you. As you know, fear is not of the Lord. There is great comfort in the words of Paul when he wrote "That which I want to do I do not and that which I do not want to do I do (paraphrase).. The comfort is knowing that even Paul dealt with sin. We all do. The Lord knows your heart and will deliver. BTW: Do not be to hard on yourself, if you figure out how to rid your life of ALL Sin, let me, because I could use that too. No, Tracy, as long as we are still in these tents of flesh we are at war with our spirit. Keep looking up and we can wave at each other on the way up. I'll be the guy holding the Lhasa Apso named KONG!Dave
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One thing for sure - the false prophets of the five demons ("doves") web site will not recognize that the rapture happened when it does because ALL of them will be left behind unless they repent of their wickedness. They will claim it was something else (maybe a government project "project bluebeam" some are already spreading the lie about to explain the rapture away when they miss it) because they are still here.
Messiah Yeshua said He will reject those who are not obeying G-d --- even if they claim to be His:
Matthew 7
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Revelation 3
To the Church in Philadelphia
7"To the angel of the church in Philadelphia write: These are the words of him who is holy and true, who holds the key of David. What he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open. 8I know your deeds. See, I have placed before you an open door that no one can shut. I know that you have little strength, yet you have kept my word and have not denied my name. 9I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars—I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you. 10Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come upon the whole world to test those who live on the earth. 11I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your crown. 12Him who overcomes I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will he leave it. I will write on him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on him my new name. 13He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.
To the Church in Laodicea
14"To the angel of the church in Laodicea write: These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the ruler of God's creation. 15I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! 16So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth. 17You say, 'I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.' But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked. 18I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see. 19Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline. So be earnest, and repent. 20Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me. 21To him who overcomes, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I overcame and sat down with my Father on his throne. 22He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches."
Anyone who gives a blanket reassurance of salvation is a false prophet. Unless you obey G-d (ie: TORAH) then Messiah Yeshua will reject you and spew you out of His mouth.
numerous false prophets, below, are giving this false assurance of salvation to deceive people into thinking they are saved even when they do not obey G-d or follow Yeshua as MESSIAH (ie: L-rd as well as Savior)
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/michaelw328.htm
Michael Westphall (28 March 2009) "To Tracy Dee And All Whose Faith Is Shaken As To Whether Or Not"
Tracy and all, we are not appointed to His wrath, for who could stand then. He has made a covenant with His blood. Who among us can ever stand on his or her works. I have to ask those that advertise we will be divided at the rapture, can you specifically tell me where the "Line" is drawn that will differentiate who is to be taken and who isn't? I dare say that you can't do that. The line was drawn at Calvary. It was red like crimson. All those that "know" Christ will be taken. The scripture plainly says that the Lord knows those that are His. If you are His, then you are known, and being known is a marvelous thing.
We all know those that "say they have works, but do not." Those are the ones that have no fear of judgement, the word is far from their hearts, they sin while in the presence of sinners and it doesn't have an impact on them. The saved of the Lord may sin, but it breaks their heart. They so much want to be honorable to the Lord, but the flesh sometimes wins. When that happens, they know that there is a place they can go to be washed up. Man, but it is a wonderful tub, filled with the best soap money can't buy. Jump in all and use the sponge of God to clean the filth off! Remember, His mercy is new every morning. Was He just kidding when He said that? No, not at all. Grant it, if one is not wanting to jump in and be cleansed, then that person does need to check out his salvation, whether it be genuine.
Let us all rest in His mercy and grace. That is the only thing that will stand. He is able to make us to stand, so let's move on and let God be glorified in our lives. Blessing to all the Doves. See you in the air soon.
Michael Westphall
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/frankm328-1.htm
Frank R Molver (28 March 2009) "re rapture terror and few"
I imagine you will get lots of letters re this. Most will probably say don't worry.First of all, the fact that you are upset with something you have a problem with is a good sign.That means you have consciousness of a problem, this is something that may be totaly lacking in the foolish ones.That's a good thing. But if it truly not a sin then it is the devil wearing you down. Then it is a bad thing. If you are obsessed with it you probably need to get some wise counseling and intervention if it is a stronghold.I have done that before and it works. I have to say that the warning visions I received indicate that many have been sidetracked with sin and they are not ready.The argument about this situation will be over when the rapture happens. 2 types of people you should not listen to are those who say everyone will be raptured, that ignores the responsiblity we have in obeying Christ, that is a real bad idea.The other type is the ones who say that only a few make it and barely so, that would be planting fear and doubt into your heart which will grow into an unfruitful tree. It is a serious issue you bring up and I am sure you are not the only one thinking of it. Confession is good for the soul and God can use it to humble and refine us. I have had to confess some pretty bad things myself, it is part of the healing process. I am sure you would not want this thing keeping out of heaven if indeed that is the problem. Either way seek wise council. If you are in NY go to see some one at Wilkerson's church or ask God to lead you to some one.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/oriolec328-1.htm
Oriole Campbell (28 March 2009) "To Tracy Dee re rapture terror"
Tracy, there is much I could offer you for comfort, and if you want more, then please contact me through John - that ok John?
The bottom line is that Jesus will keep all those that the Father has given Him. Read John 17.
Phil 1:6 states that He who began a good work in you will perform it UNTIL the day of Jesus Christ.
Eph 5:25-27 tells us that Jesus will present to Himself a bride that He has perfected and cleansed. It is His responsibility, not ours.
His amazing grace keeps us and holds us and presents us perfect and unblemished to His Father. He is always on the right hand of His Father interceding for us (Heb 7:25).
We know that when we confess our sin, He is faithful and just and cleanses us, making us yet again, pure in His sight. (1 John !:9)
Romans 6 speaks much about the grace of God toward us, and chapter 6:1-2 poses the rhetorical question "shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? God forbid!", thus indicating that we are not to be careless of His incredible grace - not to take it for granted.
As a Christian counsellor, perhaps I could help you overcome your besetting sin?
The Lord bless you, Tracy. Know that He is mightier than all your sin and that He will see you through until His great day.
Oriole
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/rene328-2.htm
Rene (28 March 2009) "to Tracy Dee - re rapture terror"
Tracy:
Please see this video - I believe it will help you more than anything else----- and others who keep doubting their salvation and believe that God is going to take only bits and pieces of his body at the rapture....
[Link Removed]
Rene
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/stevec328.htm
Steve Coerper (28 March 2009) "Re: Tracy Dee and 'rapture terror'"
Re: http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/tracyd327.htm
Dear Tracy -
NO ONE "deserves" to be part of the Bride of Christ. In fact, except for the blood of Christ, NO ONE deserves heaven. We all know that. A person becomes part of the Bride of Christ because of a decision Christ made and ratified in His blood 2,000 years ago.
What I see is a fear of disqualification due to what you call "besetting sin." I'm a little unclear on this, so don't know if my counsel will be germane, but if you are caught in some sort of recurring sinful behavior, which appears to be the case, then as soon as you see yourself slipping, this should trigger praise to God and meditation on what Jesus Christ has done for you. Take your focus totally off yourself, your flesh, your temptation, and your circumstances. Focus completely on Jesus Christ and His sacrifice for you, His love for you, and His provision for you. Then engage in something purposeful that will take you away from the circumstances that lead to sin. Read and memorize Psalm 1 - meditate on God's Law. "Great peace have they who love Thy law, and nothing shall cause them to stumble." (Psalm 119:165)
I think quite a few Christians will be surprised because Jesus said, "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments," and most Christians haven't a clue what this means. All they know is the Gospel of John Lennon: "All you need is love." Faith is not just good feelings. But that's a whole 'nuther discussion. Subjective faith can be plagued by doubt, because subjective faith is anchored in feelings, and feelings change. Biblical faith is anchored in historical facts and always produces obedience.
Have an accountability or "praise partner" who you trust and who can be available to you. Call her on the phone for mutual prayer and praise.
Our carnal natures are dying or, if you prefer, they are being FIRED by our spiritual natures. The flesh resents and resists this.
Do not fear being left behind. God will place you and keep you according to His sovereign will, and we know from Romans 8:28 that it will be for your good.
Peace is of the Holy Spirit. Fear is of the devil. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.
I hope something in these random thoughts is helpful. I'm sure plenty of other readers will weigh in with their suggestions and encouragement.
See you in May.
Steve
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/davem328.htm
Dave Molina (28 March 2009) "to: Tracy Re: Rapture Terror"
Tracy,I think that the enemy has planted this fear in you. As you know, fear is not of the Lord. There is great comfort in the words of Paul when he wrote "That which I want to do I do not and that which I do not want to do I do (paraphrase).. The comfort is knowing that even Paul dealt with sin. We all do. The Lord knows your heart and will deliver. BTW: Do not be to hard on yourself, if you figure out how to rid your life of ALL Sin, let me, because I could use that too. No, Tracy, as long as we are still in these tents of flesh we are at war with our spirit. Keep looking up and we can wave at each other on the way up. I'll be the guy holding the Lhasa Apso named KONG!Dave
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Friday, March 27, 2009
false prophet Tracy Dee is frightened about the rapture, other false prophets lie about why
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false prophet Tracy Dee is scared she will miss the rapture. The false prophets are telling her that most "christianis" will be left behind because they are "not the bride". In Revelation chapters 2 and 3, Messiah Yeshua says all the True Believers who are following Him as Messiah - which clearly means obeying G-d - will be taken in the rapture. Those that are not following Him and are following false doctrines and false prophecies by the false prophets will be the ones who will be left behind - because they have chosen to follow false doctrines of men instead of G-d's revealed truth.
Most (if not all) of the five demons ("doves") will be left behind because they are unrepentant false prophets who are involved with astrology, numerology, eat pork, shellfish and other non-kosher animals, and violate G-d's Shabbat (Sabbath) and celebrate ba-al's birthday and "ressurection" (ishtar)
If you do not follow G-d, Messiah Yeshua will REJECT you - in spite of what the false prophets claim.
Matthew 7
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/tracyd327.htm
Tracy Dee (27 March 2009) "rapture terror!!"
This is Tracy Dee...longtime watcher. I have a concern that has worried me in the past, but it is now bordering on absolute panic! In the back of my head, I have always put myself in the catagory of those christians who might be left behind. Don't get me wrong; there is NOTHING for me on this earth, and I ache with homesickness for my Lord, my husband-to-be, my father. My focus and total desire is to see His face. I sound the alert for anyone who will listen, and BEG for His cry of "come home, Tracy!". However, I fight daily with what is referred to as a besetting sin...one that I hate, as well as repent from, but seem unable to totally conquer. It is humiliating, but when I fall, the repentance is sincere, and I HATE this weakness in me. My father in heaven is so generous with His forgiveness! Therefore, I am horrified that within the last few days of letters, there are those who state that VERY FEW who believe they are Chrisitans will go, and most of us will be left to work though our sins, and to make our robes white. I will do whatever my Lord asks, but have you SEEN some of these lists written on who is worthy for this special gift? (No, I don't think rapture is the same as salvation. I KNOW I am saved!). The Bride must have a pure heart?Be UNBLEMISHED/WITHOUT SIN? Be living in absolutely HOLINESS? HELP! I KNOW I do not measure up to those standards! I feel hopeless and in despair! How can I live up to that? I beg God to come and take me home...I need Him so badly and want nothing else, but I FAIL so often! Please-some advice? Because at this point, instead of feeling as tho I want Jesus to come NOW...I am dreading it, and fear being considered a foolish virgin. Can anyone help me? How do I turn into a deserving bride with so little time left? TD
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false prophet Tracy Dee is scared she will miss the rapture. The false prophets are telling her that most "christianis" will be left behind because they are "not the bride". In Revelation chapters 2 and 3, Messiah Yeshua says all the True Believers who are following Him as Messiah - which clearly means obeying G-d - will be taken in the rapture. Those that are not following Him and are following false doctrines and false prophecies by the false prophets will be the ones who will be left behind - because they have chosen to follow false doctrines of men instead of G-d's revealed truth.
Most (if not all) of the five demons ("doves") will be left behind because they are unrepentant false prophets who are involved with astrology, numerology, eat pork, shellfish and other non-kosher animals, and violate G-d's Shabbat (Sabbath) and celebrate ba-al's birthday and "ressurection" (ishtar)
If you do not follow G-d, Messiah Yeshua will REJECT you - in spite of what the false prophets claim.
Matthew 7
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
2 Peter 2
1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/tracyd327.htm
Tracy Dee (27 March 2009) "rapture terror!!"
This is Tracy Dee...longtime watcher. I have a concern that has worried me in the past, but it is now bordering on absolute panic! In the back of my head, I have always put myself in the catagory of those christians who might be left behind. Don't get me wrong; there is NOTHING for me on this earth, and I ache with homesickness for my Lord, my husband-to-be, my father. My focus and total desire is to see His face. I sound the alert for anyone who will listen, and BEG for His cry of "come home, Tracy!". However, I fight daily with what is referred to as a besetting sin...one that I hate, as well as repent from, but seem unable to totally conquer. It is humiliating, but when I fall, the repentance is sincere, and I HATE this weakness in me. My father in heaven is so generous with His forgiveness! Therefore, I am horrified that within the last few days of letters, there are those who state that VERY FEW who believe they are Chrisitans will go, and most of us will be left to work though our sins, and to make our robes white. I will do whatever my Lord asks, but have you SEEN some of these lists written on who is worthy for this special gift? (No, I don't think rapture is the same as salvation. I KNOW I am saved!). The Bride must have a pure heart?Be UNBLEMISHED/WITHOUT SIN? Be living in absolutely HOLINESS? HELP! I KNOW I do not measure up to those standards! I feel hopeless and in despair! How can I live up to that? I beg God to come and take me home...I need Him so badly and want nothing else, but I FAIL so often! Please-some advice? Because at this point, instead of feeling as tho I want Jesus to come NOW...I am dreading it, and fear being considered a foolish virgin. Can anyone help me? How do I turn into a deserving bride with so little time left? TD
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false prophet Doug Blakemore notices there are more fruitcake false prophets posting more false prophecies
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Messiah yeshua said in the end times there false prophets would be out in force trying to deceive as many people as they can with their false prophecies.
The five foolush doves (oops "virgins") are out looking for rapture dates while the five wise virgins are watching for Messiah yeshua's imminent return.
II Tim 4:3-4
3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
Matthew 7
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Matthew 25
1 "At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom.
2 Five of them were foolish and five were wise.
3 The foolish ones took their lamps but did not take any oil with them.
4 The wise, however, took oil in jars along with their lamps.
5 The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they all became drowsy and fell asleep.
6 "At midnight the cry rang out: 'Here's the bridegroom! Come out to meet him!'
7 "Then all the virgins woke up and trimmed their lamps.
8 The foolish ones said to the wise, 'Give us some of your oil; our lamps are going out.'
9 " 'No,' they replied, 'there may not be enough for both us and you. Instead, go to those who sell oil and buy some for yourselves.'
10 "But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shut.
11 "Later the others also came. 'Sir! Sir!' they said. 'Open the door for us!'
12 "But he replied, 'I tell you the truth, I don't know you.'
13 "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/dougb327.htm
Doug Blakemore (27 March 2009) "Birth Pains"
Hi John. Just an observation. It is very interesting - at least to
me to watch how the postings are going. Looking back, when one date
would fail to result in the rapture, you got a break for a while,
postings would trail off and people sort of took a breather and time
to reflect. You probably have noticed it more than I have but it is
interesting that over the last 2 - 3 months, and even before during
Roshashona, when those dates didn't produce the rapture that the
postings kept coming - and coming and coming! It really looks like a
significant change in the intensity of people looking at dates for
Christ's return. Could this in itself be a type of noticing the
"birth pains" coming closer and closer?
Just an observation. I can't imagine how you keep up some days. You
must have a couple of angels holding you up
Doug__More like half a dozen, Doug. :)But seriously, you're right. The pace is just relentless. It seems the brideis getting more fidgety by the day.JohnP.S. Please pray for me.
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Messiah yeshua said in the end times there false prophets would be out in force trying to deceive as many people as they can with their false prophecies.
The five foolush doves (oops "virgins") are out looking for rapture dates while the five wise virgins are watching for Messiah yeshua's imminent return.
II Tim 4:3-4
3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
Matthew 7
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Matthew 25
1 "At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom.
2 Five of them were foolish and five were wise.
3 The foolish ones took their lamps but did not take any oil with them.
4 The wise, however, took oil in jars along with their lamps.
5 The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they all became drowsy and fell asleep.
6 "At midnight the cry rang out: 'Here's the bridegroom! Come out to meet him!'
7 "Then all the virgins woke up and trimmed their lamps.
8 The foolish ones said to the wise, 'Give us some of your oil; our lamps are going out.'
9 " 'No,' they replied, 'there may not be enough for both us and you. Instead, go to those who sell oil and buy some for yourselves.'
10 "But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shut.
11 "Later the others also came. 'Sir! Sir!' they said. 'Open the door for us!'
12 "But he replied, 'I tell you the truth, I don't know you.'
13 "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/dougb327.htm
Doug Blakemore (27 March 2009) "Birth Pains"
Hi John. Just an observation. It is very interesting - at least to
me to watch how the postings are going. Looking back, when one date
would fail to result in the rapture, you got a break for a while,
postings would trail off and people sort of took a breather and time
to reflect. You probably have noticed it more than I have but it is
interesting that over the last 2 - 3 months, and even before during
Roshashona, when those dates didn't produce the rapture that the
postings kept coming - and coming and coming! It really looks like a
significant change in the intensity of people looking at dates for
Christ's return. Could this in itself be a type of noticing the
"birth pains" coming closer and closer?
Just an observation. I can't imagine how you keep up some days. You
must have a couple of angels holding you up
Doug__More like half a dozen, Doug. :)But seriously, you're right. The pace is just relentless. It seems the brideis getting more fidgety by the day.JohnP.S. Please pray for me.
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false prophet Ted Porter is using numerology to prophecy about yet another doomed-to-fail rapture date
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false prophet Ted Porter is "confirming" false prophet Daniel Matson's numerology false prophecies and regurgitating them so false prophet Daniel Matson can use false prophet Ted Porter's post as a "confirmation" for his false prophecies.
Anyone see an endless loop with the false prophets "confirming" each others false prophecies???
II Tim 4:3-4
3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/tedp327.htm
Ted Porter (27 March 2009) "April 27, 2009 Rapture Watch"
I’ve hesitated to post this too early as Passion Week is soon approaching and March 29 – April 11, 2009 will be earnestly watched.
Yet since Daniel Matson had brought it up about counting in 100 day increments which includes mentioning April 27, 2009:
Counting Off 100 Day Intervals
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/danielm326.htm
This gives another witness to my observation of having Christ’s number of 153 times 100 or 15,300 days since 6/7/1967 being April 27, 2009:
Re:The Titanic Disaster, March 31, 2009 & April 27, 2009 Rapture Watches
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/tedp32-1.htm
And even more interesting, not saying that the tribulation started 3 ½ years ago, but this source has the midpoint of the tribulation, which for mid-tribs is the Rapture day, amazingly also on April 27, 2009.
http://www.charlesberner.org/Daniel%204%20with%20Charts.pdfv
April 27, 2009 is arrived at by subtracting 1335 days (1260 +45) inclusively from 12/21/2012, the Mayan end date.
He has the tribulation starting on November 14, 2005 which is 1260 days before April 27, 2009. There was a Peace meeting with Israel on that date.
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false prophet Ted Porter is "confirming" false prophet Daniel Matson's numerology false prophecies and regurgitating them so false prophet Daniel Matson can use false prophet Ted Porter's post as a "confirmation" for his false prophecies.
Anyone see an endless loop with the false prophets "confirming" each others false prophecies???
II Tim 4:3-4
3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/tedp327.htm
Ted Porter (27 March 2009) "April 27, 2009 Rapture Watch"
I’ve hesitated to post this too early as Passion Week is soon approaching and March 29 – April 11, 2009 will be earnestly watched.
Yet since Daniel Matson had brought it up about counting in 100 day increments which includes mentioning April 27, 2009:
Counting Off 100 Day Intervals
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/danielm326.htm
This gives another witness to my observation of having Christ’s number of 153 times 100 or 15,300 days since 6/7/1967 being April 27, 2009:
Re:The Titanic Disaster, March 31, 2009 & April 27, 2009 Rapture Watches
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/tedp32-1.htm
And even more interesting, not saying that the tribulation started 3 ½ years ago, but this source has the midpoint of the tribulation, which for mid-tribs is the Rapture day, amazingly also on April 27, 2009.
http://www.charlesberner.org/Daniel%204%20with%20Charts.pdfv
April 27, 2009 is arrived at by subtracting 1335 days (1260 +45) inclusively from 12/21/2012, the Mayan end date.
He has the tribulation starting on November 14, 2005 which is 1260 days before April 27, 2009. There was a Peace meeting with Israel on that date.
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false prophet Mike Williamson - more false prophecies for the rapture next week
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false prophet Mike Williamson is prophecying the rapture will be in seven days. What do you want to bet when it fails he will not apologize or repent for his wicked unbiblical prophecies?
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/mikew327-1.htm
Mike Williamson (27 March 2009) "Possible World Events Coming on Nisan 10, 2009"
We are now just a week away from one of the most important dates on the Hebrew calendar. That of Nisan 10, our April 3-4, 2009. This day saw Jesus Christ enter Jerusalem to be presented as their Messiah, and was rejected by the Israeli Jewish people This coming April 3-4, 2009 may see the following world events take place : 1. the rapture of all Christian believers in Jesus Christ to the Eternal City, The New Jerusalem 2. the start of God's Tribulation Judgements and Wrath as described in the Book of Revelation 3. the beginning of the Two Hebrew Witnesses 3 1/2 year evangelism ministry we have seen many wonderful postings and research articles on this 5-doves site giving much evidence that the return of our Savior Jesus Christ is very near. I believe we are only one week away from the most exciting world event since Jesus Christ walked the Earth 2,000 years ago my encouragment to all watchers, use this final week in your earthly life to do something, anything that will have eternal value. Ask God what He wants you to do with this last week. If you ask Him, He will tell you what His will is for you. Our lives in eternity begins in just 7 days, put a big smile on your Lord's face and make an eternal difference for His Kingdom in these final days !
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false prophet Mike Williamson is prophecying the rapture will be in seven days. What do you want to bet when it fails he will not apologize or repent for his wicked unbiblical prophecies?
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/mikew327-1.htm
Mike Williamson (27 March 2009) "Possible World Events Coming on Nisan 10, 2009"
We are now just a week away from one of the most important dates on the Hebrew calendar. That of Nisan 10, our April 3-4, 2009. This day saw Jesus Christ enter Jerusalem to be presented as their Messiah, and was rejected by the Israeli Jewish people This coming April 3-4, 2009 may see the following world events take place : 1. the rapture of all Christian believers in Jesus Christ to the Eternal City, The New Jerusalem 2. the start of God's Tribulation Judgements and Wrath as described in the Book of Revelation 3. the beginning of the Two Hebrew Witnesses 3 1/2 year evangelism ministry we have seen many wonderful postings and research articles on this 5-doves site giving much evidence that the return of our Savior Jesus Christ is very near. I believe we are only one week away from the most exciting world event since Jesus Christ walked the Earth 2,000 years ago my encouragment to all watchers, use this final week in your earthly life to do something, anything that will have eternal value. Ask God what He wants you to do with this last week. If you ask Him, He will tell you what His will is for you. Our lives in eternity begins in just 7 days, put a big smile on your Lord's face and make an eternal difference for His Kingdom in these final days !
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false prophet Mark Copfer admits to worshiping america's idols
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Any TV program that makes idols out of man is unbiblical. Anyone who worships these man idols are not followers of Messiah yeshua or obeyers of G-d. false prophet Mark Copfer admits to following these man idols even if they are not believers (because "maybe one day they will be saved")
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/markc327-4.htm
Mark Copfer (27 March 2009) "American Idol`s Adam Lambert Last Night"
I do not know about the rest of you whom watch this show, but last night I would have to say, we got the shock of our life. And though I know pride is considered a big sin, I must say, I am very very proud of Adam Lambert after seeing him last night. He really pulled his act together, and showed his true colors in my opinion... He looked so much like a cross between Elvis Presley, and Kurt Russel.... and last night he sang incredibly good, and really made Smokey Robinson proud..... Job well done... A fitting end to the Adam Lambert story would be if it was found out he is a born again believer, or better yet, if he became born again while during American Idol.... Everything and Anything is possible with Jesus!!!!!
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Any TV program that makes idols out of man is unbiblical. Anyone who worships these man idols are not followers of Messiah yeshua or obeyers of G-d. false prophet Mark Copfer admits to following these man idols even if they are not believers (because "maybe one day they will be saved")
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/markc327-4.htm
Mark Copfer (27 March 2009) "American Idol`s Adam Lambert Last Night"
I do not know about the rest of you whom watch this show, but last night I would have to say, we got the shock of our life. And though I know pride is considered a big sin, I must say, I am very very proud of Adam Lambert after seeing him last night. He really pulled his act together, and showed his true colors in my opinion... He looked so much like a cross between Elvis Presley, and Kurt Russel.... and last night he sang incredibly good, and really made Smokey Robinson proud..... Job well done... A fitting end to the Adam Lambert story would be if it was found out he is a born again believer, or better yet, if he became born again while during American Idol.... Everything and Anything is possible with Jesus!!!!!
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Thursday, March 26, 2009
false prophet Daniel Matson's new prophecies depend on numerology and astrology
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false prophet Daniel Matson is giving false prophecies based on numerology and astrology - things G-d has repeatedly said He DETESTS. He also said those involved in the evil practices are DETESTABLE to Him.
Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."
NOWHERE in the bible does it say to use numerology / intervals between any event that happens / or to use the passing of comets (as omens) to make prophecies about the future.
If G-d wanted to give a prophecy, it would be clear and precise and would not be open to different interpretations.
false prophet Daniel Matson is demon infested and is NOT speaking for G-d. he is a repeat false prophet who has NEVER repented of his false prophecies.
Anyone who believes false prophet Daniel Matson deserves the punishment they will undoubtedly receive.
II Tim 4:3-4
3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/danielm326.htm
Daniel Matson (26 March 2009) "Counting off 100 Day Intervals"
Counting off 100 Day Intervals
March 26, 2009 - Daniel W. Matson – 2010Rapture.orgWith the discovery that Yom Kippur 2008 was 700 days after Heshvan 17, 2006 and 700 days before Trumpets 2010, it led to many developments in analyzing the time. From Trumpets 2005, which was 14,000 days from June 7, 1967, it was 400 days to Heshvan 17, 2006. It was then another 200 days until Pentecost 2007. But then from Pentecost 2007 it was another 600 days until the Gaza War Cease-fire. Here is the breakdown so far in a list:
Trumpets 2005 – 14,000 days from June 7, 1967
Heshvan 17, 2006 – 14,400 days (120 x 120)
Pentecost 2007 – 14,600 days
Yom Kippur 2008 – 15,100 days
Gaza War Cease-Fire – 15,200 days
Trumpets 2010 – 15,800 days
Obviously a pattern of 100 days was in view, but the next question is, are there more potential 100 day increments in a countdown to Trumpets 2010? One interesting date was 200 days after Pentecost 2007 or 1000 days before Trumpets 2010. That day was December 14, 2007. It is interesting since that day was exactly 10 solar years before December 14, 2017 and presumably at the conclusion of day 1335. Therefore, it is 1000 days until the beginning (Rapture) and 10 years until the end from the same point. That seems interesting enough to note.The next step is 900 days until Trumpets 2010. That day was March 23, 2008. This was the earliest day that Resurrection Sunday (Firstfruits) was observed by Christians in many years. Again this seems interesting enough to mention since it is an important Feast Day like the others that find their way into the series of 100.July 1, 2008 marked day 800 from Trumpets 2010, but no significance seems apparent there unless it is for the fact that it is 365 inclusive days from the 17th of Tammuz 2007 (July 3), which came one Hebrew Lunar year from the start of the Lebanon War in 2006. In other words it was another tie into the year or circle idea.
The next step of 700 days then came on Yom Kippur 2008, which has been discussed, already in previous articles. Then the next step of 600 days came at the time of the Gaza Cease-fire on January 17, 2009. Again this has been previously discussed.
Now to the future
Continuing the count at 100-day intervals the next step is 500. It may be nothing, but that day will be April 27, 2009. Ten days later is May 6, 2009, which is 12 years from Comet Hale-Bopp crossing the Earth's orbital plane. It is also 120 weeks from when Comet McNaught crossed the plane, which incidentally crossed exactly 120 lunar months after Hale-Bopp crossed the plane. In other words, 12 solar years are equal to 120 lunar months plus 120 weeks, but here with comets involved. But May 7, 2009 also marks 490 days or 70 weeks until Trumpets 2010. These numbers are too interesting to not mention some possibility. Stay tuned concerning this time.The next count then is 400 days until Trumpets 2010. This is August 5, 2009 with no apparent significance other than it is the same day on the solar calendar as the Ninth of Av 2014. This day has been discussed at length in the book. Next, 300 days comes to November 13, 2009, which incidentally comes 40 days after the start of Tabernacles 2009. As has been previously seen, Tabernacles 2009 will come exactly 40 weeks after the start of the Gaza War, which came exactly 900 days after the start of the Lebanon War of 2006. These days of Tabernacles and November 13th could very well prove significant. Interestingly, a year earlier, November 13, 2008 was also the day that the "666 discovery" was made that was also 666 days until Trumpets 2010 (please see previous article).The next stop of 200 days in the countdown is February 21, 2010. On the Hebrew Calendar it is Adar 7. This is the traditional day of Moses’ birth and death at 120 years. This is most interesting since this day is also located 1,200 days after Heshvan 17, 2006 (November 8). The anniversary day of the Flood on Heshvan 17, 2006, as has been stated numerous times, was 120 x 120 days from Israel regaining Jerusalem and the Temple Mount on June 7, 1967. The war with Hezbollah in the summer of 2006 also started 120 days before this pivotal day in meaning. But for those who have read Chapter 9 of the book, Adar 7 now makes its second appearance, just as December 14 did in similar fashion. This second appearance of Adar 7 is also the same since the Hebrew years coincide with the same days of the week in 2010 as in 2007. Therefore, Adar 7 in these years is 42 inclusive days until Resurrection Sunday with Ascension Day another 40 inclusive days later. But this then allows that Ascension Day is placed 120 inclusive days before the Feast of Trumpets. To easily confirm what years this is possible, verify the years that Nisan 20 is the Sunday of Firstfruits or when Sivan 10 is Pentecost. This also occurs in the year 2017.
What makes this interesting is the tie into Noah and Moses. Noah has the Flood warned to him 120 years beforehand and a Flood that consists of 40 days and nights of rain. Moses lived 120 years with three distinct periods of 40 years. With Moses’ death on Adar 7, it means that the year of Christ’s resurrection on Nisan 17 occurred 40 days after this anniversary day. Then of course Christ ascended after 40 days as well demonstrating the completion of the Law well timed from the greatest prophet before Christ who penned the Law. Is it any wonder that Ascension Day in 2010 coincides at 120 days prior to Trumpets 2010? And then also in 2017 at the Second Coming? So the Resurrection came 40 days after Moses’ anniversary birth and death. Then in another 40 days Christ went to Heaven to return in the future in like manner. Therefore, 120 days from the anniversary of Ascension Day would then seem to fit the next step of the pattern.
As for a hundred days until Trumpets 2010, that would be June 1, 2010. No apparent significance seems to lie here, but with it being just after Ascension Day, that may not be surprising.
Therefore, there seems to be some significance here and it would be good to note it for future reference. What may come at these times will have to wait and be seen. The coinciding of the days with important anniversaries may be the significance in itself that demonstrates the countdown to the beginning of the end.
1800 - Trumpets 2005 – 14,000 days from June 7, 1967
1400 - Heshvan 17, 2006 – 14,400 days (120 x 120) . . .
1200 - Pentecost 2007 – 14,600 days
1000 - December 14, 2008 – 14,800 days
900 - March 23, 2008 – Firstfruits - 14,900 days
800 - July 1, 2008 – 15,000 days
700 - October 9, 2008 – Yom Kippur - 15,100 days
600 - January 17, 2009 – Gaza Cease-Fire – 15,200 days
500 - April 27, 2009 – 15,300 days
400 - August 5, 2009 – 15,400 days
300 - November 13, 2009 – 15,500 days
200 - February 21, 2010 – Adar 7 - 15,600 days
100 - June 1, 2010 – 15,700 days
0 - Trumpets 2010 – 15,800 days
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false prophet Daniel Matson is giving false prophecies based on numerology and astrology - things G-d has repeatedly said He DETESTS. He also said those involved in the evil practices are DETESTABLE to Him.
Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."
NOWHERE in the bible does it say to use numerology / intervals between any event that happens / or to use the passing of comets (as omens) to make prophecies about the future.
If G-d wanted to give a prophecy, it would be clear and precise and would not be open to different interpretations.
false prophet Daniel Matson is demon infested and is NOT speaking for G-d. he is a repeat false prophet who has NEVER repented of his false prophecies.
Anyone who believes false prophet Daniel Matson deserves the punishment they will undoubtedly receive.
II Tim 4:3-4
3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/danielm326.htm
Daniel Matson (26 March 2009) "Counting off 100 Day Intervals"
Counting off 100 Day Intervals
March 26, 2009 - Daniel W. Matson – 2010Rapture.orgWith the discovery that Yom Kippur 2008 was 700 days after Heshvan 17, 2006 and 700 days before Trumpets 2010, it led to many developments in analyzing the time. From Trumpets 2005, which was 14,000 days from June 7, 1967, it was 400 days to Heshvan 17, 2006. It was then another 200 days until Pentecost 2007. But then from Pentecost 2007 it was another 600 days until the Gaza War Cease-fire. Here is the breakdown so far in a list:
Trumpets 2005 – 14,000 days from June 7, 1967
Heshvan 17, 2006 – 14,400 days (120 x 120)
Pentecost 2007 – 14,600 days
Yom Kippur 2008 – 15,100 days
Gaza War Cease-Fire – 15,200 days
Trumpets 2010 – 15,800 days
Obviously a pattern of 100 days was in view, but the next question is, are there more potential 100 day increments in a countdown to Trumpets 2010? One interesting date was 200 days after Pentecost 2007 or 1000 days before Trumpets 2010. That day was December 14, 2007. It is interesting since that day was exactly 10 solar years before December 14, 2017 and presumably at the conclusion of day 1335. Therefore, it is 1000 days until the beginning (Rapture) and 10 years until the end from the same point. That seems interesting enough to note.The next step is 900 days until Trumpets 2010. That day was March 23, 2008. This was the earliest day that Resurrection Sunday (Firstfruits) was observed by Christians in many years. Again this seems interesting enough to mention since it is an important Feast Day like the others that find their way into the series of 100.July 1, 2008 marked day 800 from Trumpets 2010, but no significance seems apparent there unless it is for the fact that it is 365 inclusive days from the 17th of Tammuz 2007 (July 3), which came one Hebrew Lunar year from the start of the Lebanon War in 2006. In other words it was another tie into the year or circle idea.
The next step of 700 days then came on Yom Kippur 2008, which has been discussed, already in previous articles. Then the next step of 600 days came at the time of the Gaza Cease-fire on January 17, 2009. Again this has been previously discussed.
Now to the future
Continuing the count at 100-day intervals the next step is 500. It may be nothing, but that day will be April 27, 2009. Ten days later is May 6, 2009, which is 12 years from Comet Hale-Bopp crossing the Earth's orbital plane. It is also 120 weeks from when Comet McNaught crossed the plane, which incidentally crossed exactly 120 lunar months after Hale-Bopp crossed the plane. In other words, 12 solar years are equal to 120 lunar months plus 120 weeks, but here with comets involved. But May 7, 2009 also marks 490 days or 70 weeks until Trumpets 2010. These numbers are too interesting to not mention some possibility. Stay tuned concerning this time.The next count then is 400 days until Trumpets 2010. This is August 5, 2009 with no apparent significance other than it is the same day on the solar calendar as the Ninth of Av 2014. This day has been discussed at length in the book. Next, 300 days comes to November 13, 2009, which incidentally comes 40 days after the start of Tabernacles 2009. As has been previously seen, Tabernacles 2009 will come exactly 40 weeks after the start of the Gaza War, which came exactly 900 days after the start of the Lebanon War of 2006. These days of Tabernacles and November 13th could very well prove significant. Interestingly, a year earlier, November 13, 2008 was also the day that the "666 discovery" was made that was also 666 days until Trumpets 2010 (please see previous article).The next stop of 200 days in the countdown is February 21, 2010. On the Hebrew Calendar it is Adar 7. This is the traditional day of Moses’ birth and death at 120 years. This is most interesting since this day is also located 1,200 days after Heshvan 17, 2006 (November 8). The anniversary day of the Flood on Heshvan 17, 2006, as has been stated numerous times, was 120 x 120 days from Israel regaining Jerusalem and the Temple Mount on June 7, 1967. The war with Hezbollah in the summer of 2006 also started 120 days before this pivotal day in meaning. But for those who have read Chapter 9 of the book, Adar 7 now makes its second appearance, just as December 14 did in similar fashion. This second appearance of Adar 7 is also the same since the Hebrew years coincide with the same days of the week in 2010 as in 2007. Therefore, Adar 7 in these years is 42 inclusive days until Resurrection Sunday with Ascension Day another 40 inclusive days later. But this then allows that Ascension Day is placed 120 inclusive days before the Feast of Trumpets. To easily confirm what years this is possible, verify the years that Nisan 20 is the Sunday of Firstfruits or when Sivan 10 is Pentecost. This also occurs in the year 2017.
What makes this interesting is the tie into Noah and Moses. Noah has the Flood warned to him 120 years beforehand and a Flood that consists of 40 days and nights of rain. Moses lived 120 years with three distinct periods of 40 years. With Moses’ death on Adar 7, it means that the year of Christ’s resurrection on Nisan 17 occurred 40 days after this anniversary day. Then of course Christ ascended after 40 days as well demonstrating the completion of the Law well timed from the greatest prophet before Christ who penned the Law. Is it any wonder that Ascension Day in 2010 coincides at 120 days prior to Trumpets 2010? And then also in 2017 at the Second Coming? So the Resurrection came 40 days after Moses’ anniversary birth and death. Then in another 40 days Christ went to Heaven to return in the future in like manner. Therefore, 120 days from the anniversary of Ascension Day would then seem to fit the next step of the pattern.
As for a hundred days until Trumpets 2010, that would be June 1, 2010. No apparent significance seems to lie here, but with it being just after Ascension Day, that may not be surprising.
Therefore, there seems to be some significance here and it would be good to note it for future reference. What may come at these times will have to wait and be seen. The coinciding of the days with important anniversaries may be the significance in itself that demonstrates the countdown to the beginning of the end.
1800 - Trumpets 2005 – 14,000 days from June 7, 1967
1400 - Heshvan 17, 2006 – 14,400 days (120 x 120) . . .
1200 - Pentecost 2007 – 14,600 days
1000 - December 14, 2008 – 14,800 days
900 - March 23, 2008 – Firstfruits - 14,900 days
800 - July 1, 2008 – 15,000 days
700 - October 9, 2008 – Yom Kippur - 15,100 days
600 - January 17, 2009 – Gaza Cease-Fire – 15,200 days
500 - April 27, 2009 – 15,300 days
400 - August 5, 2009 – 15,400 days
300 - November 13, 2009 – 15,500 days
200 - February 21, 2010 – Adar 7 - 15,600 days
100 - June 1, 2010 – 15,700 days
0 - Trumpets 2010 – 15,800 days
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false prophet Bruce Warner admits he is not a True Christian
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false prophet Bruce Warner is now admitting he is not a true Christian and Messiah yeshua will reject him for his disobeying G-d and his false prophecies.
Don't let this demon infested false prophet Bruce Warner fool you. ALL those who are truly following Messiah Yeshua AND obeying G-d will be raptured. Those who disobey G-d - including the false prophets - are NOT saved and they will be spewed into the tribulation.
Matthew 7
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Revelation 3
If you are truly following Messiah Yeshua and obeying G-d:
7And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;
8I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.
9Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
10Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
11Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
12Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
13He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
If you only think you are obeying Messiah Yeshua and following G-d (see no need to repent of your wickedness) :
14And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;
15I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
16So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
17Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
18I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
19As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/brucew326-3.htm
Bruce Warner (26 March 2009) "AFTER THE 'RAPTURE OF THE BRIDE' NEXT MONTH MOST OF US WILL STILL BE HERE"
Dear Doves,
After the Rapture of 'The Bride' next month most of us will still be right here, living on the earth to be tested, because we were NOT 'accounted worthy' enough to be 'The Bride'. Jesus will make that judgment on the Day of Rapture. The following scripture explains it fully:
Luke 21:36
"Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be 'ACCOUNTED WORTHY' to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man."
Some of us will be 'accounted worthy' enough to be The Bride and be Raptured, but most of us will fall short of the glory that is required. Therefore most of us will enter into the tribulation, and be tested to see whether we become sanctified under the duress of tribulation. This is where the wheat is separated from the chaff at the time of the 'wheat harvest/rapture' just before the Wrath of God is poured out upon the earth.
We 'pray always to be accounted worthy' so, Come Lord Jesus!
Bruce Warner
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false prophet Bruce Warner is now admitting he is not a true Christian and Messiah yeshua will reject him for his disobeying G-d and his false prophecies.
Don't let this demon infested false prophet Bruce Warner fool you. ALL those who are truly following Messiah Yeshua AND obeying G-d will be raptured. Those who disobey G-d - including the false prophets - are NOT saved and they will be spewed into the tribulation.
Matthew 7
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Revelation 3
If you are truly following Messiah Yeshua and obeying G-d:
7And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;
8I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.
9Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
10Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
11Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
12Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
13He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
If you only think you are obeying Messiah Yeshua and following G-d (see no need to repent of your wickedness) :
14And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;
15I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
16So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
17Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
18I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
19As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/brucew326-3.htm
Bruce Warner (26 March 2009) "AFTER THE 'RAPTURE OF THE BRIDE' NEXT MONTH MOST OF US WILL STILL BE HERE"
Dear Doves,
After the Rapture of 'The Bride' next month most of us will still be right here, living on the earth to be tested, because we were NOT 'accounted worthy' enough to be 'The Bride'. Jesus will make that judgment on the Day of Rapture. The following scripture explains it fully:
Luke 21:36
"Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be 'ACCOUNTED WORTHY' to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man."
Some of us will be 'accounted worthy' enough to be The Bride and be Raptured, but most of us will fall short of the glory that is required. Therefore most of us will enter into the tribulation, and be tested to see whether we become sanctified under the duress of tribulation. This is where the wheat is separated from the chaff at the time of the 'wheat harvest/rapture' just before the Wrath of God is poured out upon the earth.
We 'pray always to be accounted worthy' so, Come Lord Jesus!
Bruce Warner
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Wednesday, March 25, 2009
false prophet 'Louis' thinks the volcanic activity are demons coming up from hell
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While there is an increase of demonic activity, it has nothing to do with the volcanos that are erupting and becoming active. The believe that volcano activity has to do with demons is pagan in origin and is what led many cultures to offer sacrifices to appease the "gods" and stop the volcanic activity.
Volcano activity is prophecied to increase during the last days but that has to do with global warming and the future pole shift (which is caused by magma movement in the earth) it has nothing to do with demon spirits.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/louis325.htm
Louis (25 March 2009) "Shaking and Sifting on the way!! Volcanic activity maybe linked"
Hi John and Doves; I heard this past Saturday 'from a brother' that evil spirits are going to be "released" 'MORE OF THEM' maybe from Hell. Why? I believe to 'shake and sift' "All of us".The timing of the Volcanic activity makes me wonder if these spirits are coming from Hell.Jesus said,because of this we will need to [Keep a hedge around us],THIS IS A "MUST NOW"!!STAY AWAY FROM "ANYTHING UNGODLY",OUR HOPE IS IN CHRIST,JESUS.These "Demons" are going to drive people MAD!--Pray,Stay AND GIVE NO PLACE TO THE DEVIL,THESE ARE 'DEMONS'.TIME IS VERY SHORT!!PS.THIS INFORMATION IS COMING FROM SOMEONE I TRUST AND JESUS SAID TO "KEEP A HEDGE".Louis.
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While there is an increase of demonic activity, it has nothing to do with the volcanos that are erupting and becoming active. The believe that volcano activity has to do with demons is pagan in origin and is what led many cultures to offer sacrifices to appease the "gods" and stop the volcanic activity.
Volcano activity is prophecied to increase during the last days but that has to do with global warming and the future pole shift (which is caused by magma movement in the earth) it has nothing to do with demon spirits.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/louis325.htm
Louis (25 March 2009) "Shaking and Sifting on the way!! Volcanic activity maybe linked"
Hi John and Doves; I heard this past Saturday 'from a brother' that evil spirits are going to be "released" 'MORE OF THEM' maybe from Hell. Why? I believe to 'shake and sift' "All of us".The timing of the Volcanic activity makes me wonder if these spirits are coming from Hell.Jesus said,because of this we will need to [Keep a hedge around us],THIS IS A "MUST NOW"!!STAY AWAY FROM "ANYTHING UNGODLY",OUR HOPE IS IN CHRIST,JESUS.These "Demons" are going to drive people MAD!--Pray,Stay AND GIVE NO PLACE TO THE DEVIL,THESE ARE 'DEMONS'.TIME IS VERY SHORT!!PS.THIS INFORMATION IS COMING FROM SOMEONE I TRUST AND JESUS SAID TO "KEEP A HEDGE".Louis.
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false prophet 'Lauren' once again twisting / adding to scripture to fit her own agenda
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false prophet 'Lauren' is taking a specific prophecy about the antimessiah receiving his power from ten leaders who have not received their kingdoms and claims that this is about the last ten american presidents??? This is a wacky fruitcake false prophet and has no scriptural basis for her obvious demonic prophecies.
2 Peter 2
1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/lauren325-1.htm
Lauren (25 March 2009) "ONE HOUR WITH THE ‘BEAST’"
ONE HOUR WITH THE ‘BEAST’
Revelation 17:12 And the ten horns which you saw ARE TEN KINGS, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings ONE HOUR with the beast
On Israel’s national day of mourning over the destruction of its two temples on the Fast of Tisha B'Av, August 15, 1967, Army Chief Rabbi Shlomo Goren and 50 Israelis went to pray on the Temple Mount.
However Defense Minister Moshe Dayan ordered the commander of the Central Command to prevent any further action that might incite the Moslems, the General told the Rabbi, "Honored Rabbi, if you will go up to the Mount again, I will be compelled to REMOVE YOU BY FORCE."
The following day, August 16, 1967, the Ministerial Committee in charge of the holy places met and unanimously FORBADE JEWISH PRAYER that had been set for the following Shabbat. That was the beginning of a humiliating Jewish policy that stunned no one more than the Moslems who could not believe the manifestation of Jewish madness they had just seen.
From August 16, 1967 to April 16, 2009 is 15,218 days,
Using the 1 day as 1000 years formula, 1 hour has the equivalent of 15,218 days thereby from the day Jewish prayer was forbidden on the temple mount, August 16, 1967 to April 16, 2009 is 15,218 days.
What is so astounding about this date is that it is eight days after the Birkat Ha Chamah on April 8, 2009 and the predicted ‘tempest of the Lord’ that TOOK OUT the “raiser of taxes”. If that is the case then the “10th” king would be in power albeit but a few days fulfilling the ONE HOUR OF THE BEAST prophecy!
With the fulfillment of Revelation 13:5’s revealing of the antichrist on the new moon of April 25, 2009 coming but nine days later!
THE TEN PRESIDENTS
Revelation 17:16 And the ten horns which you saw upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.17 For God has put into their hearts (the 10 kings) to fulfill his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom UNTO THE BEAST, until the words of God shall be fulfilled. 18 And the woman which you saw is that great city, (DC) which reigns over the kings of the earth.
Who are they 1) Johnson 1963-69, 2) Nixon, 3) Ford, 4) Carter, 5) Reagan, 6) Bush Sr., 7) Clinton, 8) Bush Jr. 9) Obama, 10) Biden. Barack Obama is fulfilling the role of the ‘black horse’ of Revelation 6:5-6 and the ‘leopard’ of Daniel 7:6 who is the “raiser of taxes that is destroyed neither in anger or battle” of Daniel 11:20.
That ‘destruction’ comes in the way of a “tempest”, Isaiah 28:1-4, that will give Joe Biden less than three weeks at the helm until Revelation 13:5’s 42 new moon reign of the antichrist begins on April 25, 2009.
Giving Him the glory, an Ezekiel 33:6 watching one, REPENT the Kingdom of God is at hand, make your election SURE
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false prophet 'Lauren' is taking a specific prophecy about the antimessiah receiving his power from ten leaders who have not received their kingdoms and claims that this is about the last ten american presidents??? This is a wacky fruitcake false prophet and has no scriptural basis for her obvious demonic prophecies.
2 Peter 2
1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/lauren325-1.htm
Lauren (25 March 2009) "ONE HOUR WITH THE ‘BEAST’"
ONE HOUR WITH THE ‘BEAST’
Revelation 17:12 And the ten horns which you saw ARE TEN KINGS, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings ONE HOUR with the beast
On Israel’s national day of mourning over the destruction of its two temples on the Fast of Tisha B'Av, August 15, 1967, Army Chief Rabbi Shlomo Goren and 50 Israelis went to pray on the Temple Mount.
However Defense Minister Moshe Dayan ordered the commander of the Central Command to prevent any further action that might incite the Moslems, the General told the Rabbi, "Honored Rabbi, if you will go up to the Mount again, I will be compelled to REMOVE YOU BY FORCE."
The following day, August 16, 1967, the Ministerial Committee in charge of the holy places met and unanimously FORBADE JEWISH PRAYER that had been set for the following Shabbat. That was the beginning of a humiliating Jewish policy that stunned no one more than the Moslems who could not believe the manifestation of Jewish madness they had just seen.
From August 16, 1967 to April 16, 2009 is 15,218 days,
Using the 1 day as 1000 years formula, 1 hour has the equivalent of 15,218 days thereby from the day Jewish prayer was forbidden on the temple mount, August 16, 1967 to April 16, 2009 is 15,218 days.
What is so astounding about this date is that it is eight days after the Birkat Ha Chamah on April 8, 2009 and the predicted ‘tempest of the Lord’ that TOOK OUT the “raiser of taxes”. If that is the case then the “10th” king would be in power albeit but a few days fulfilling the ONE HOUR OF THE BEAST prophecy!
With the fulfillment of Revelation 13:5’s revealing of the antichrist on the new moon of April 25, 2009 coming but nine days later!
THE TEN PRESIDENTS
Revelation 17:16 And the ten horns which you saw upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.17 For God has put into their hearts (the 10 kings) to fulfill his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom UNTO THE BEAST, until the words of God shall be fulfilled. 18 And the woman which you saw is that great city, (DC) which reigns over the kings of the earth.
Who are they 1) Johnson 1963-69, 2) Nixon, 3) Ford, 4) Carter, 5) Reagan, 6) Bush Sr., 7) Clinton, 8) Bush Jr. 9) Obama, 10) Biden. Barack Obama is fulfilling the role of the ‘black horse’ of Revelation 6:5-6 and the ‘leopard’ of Daniel 7:6 who is the “raiser of taxes that is destroyed neither in anger or battle” of Daniel 11:20.
That ‘destruction’ comes in the way of a “tempest”, Isaiah 28:1-4, that will give Joe Biden less than three weeks at the helm until Revelation 13:5’s 42 new moon reign of the antichrist begins on April 25, 2009.
Giving Him the glory, an Ezekiel 33:6 watching one, REPENT the Kingdom of God is at hand, make your election SURE
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false prophet Sherry Vance claims we are in the tribulation and those who do not believe her lies "has an agenda"
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We are definitely not in Daniels 70th week (the tribulation) because that starts when the antimessiah confirms the covenant with many (which includes Israel) for one week. obama's infomercial on october 29, 2008 was not a confirmation of a seven year covenant with anyone (presidents are elected for four years, not seven) and was nothing more than a narcissist lying to his gullible followers. You can't confirm a covenant unless you have the authority to do so. As a presidential CANDIDATE, there is no authority to confirm any covenant that depends on being president to carry it out. You can make campaign promises but that is not a covenant.
The agenda is by those who claim obama confirmed a covenant on october 29, 2008 and that it started the tribulation (and yet the false prophets that teach this garbage still claim to believe in a pre tribulation rapture???)
false prophet Sherry Vance has an agenda - and it is not to uphold what Messiah Yeshua says and it is not to obey G-d. She claims those who do not believe her false teachings are the ones that "has an agenda" I, for one, watch for Messiah yeshua's return each and every day - I will not put of watching for His return until march 2011 as false prophet Sherry Vance teaches.
Matthew 24
42 "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.
48 But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, 'My master is staying away a long time,' 49 and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. 50 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51 He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/sherryv325-4.htm
Sherry Vance (25 March 2009) "To Ron Reese & His Post from Oct. 2008"
Yes, Ron, I agree we are in the last 7 years, the 70th Week. And I believe it began on Rosh Hashanah 2007/2008 of the Jewish New Year with a 7 year Sabbatical cycle which will end in 2015. I agree that the lunar and solar eclipses will be evidence of his 2nd Coming in the sun, moon, and stars. And, I believe the autumn of 2015 begins not just a new Sabbatical year but also a JUBILEE YEAR!!! I also agree that the “confirming of the covenant with many for ONE WEEK” indicates that that Week is the 70TH WEEK of Daniel.
All of these things simply add more strength to the analogy of the three Weeks of Jacob's Trouble. So many things are right before our eyes that it is almost impossible to deny them....only those who want their agenda to fit God Word's make an argument against it.
Israel was born in a day - 1948. The Fig Tree (Israel) grew leaves (matured) and re-unified Jerusalem in 1967. That was the key to the last generation. As time passed, there would necessarily have to be another key event that unlocked the time of the end and I believe the 1993 Oslo Accord -recognition of Israel's right to exist in the Land- was the key that would enable us to follow Jacob's Trouble as it progressed through the three-week analogy of Israel's "trouble."
Then there was the ending of 6,000 years according to the Jewish calendar.....and the Israeli Rabbis announcing WE ARE IN THE TIME OF JACOB'S TROUBLE.
Four years later the Sanhedrin was re-convened.....a prophetic event that passed by without much understanding of the significance of it (YOU SHALL NOT SEE ME AGAIN UNTIL YOU -the Jewish leaders, the Sanhedrin- SHALL SAY, BLESSED IS HE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD. So they are now on the scene awaiting their prophetic role when "they see Him for the second time."
The issue I disagree with is that of the covenant.....I do not believe it is the "covenant" Obama made with (basically) the world at his announcement. I DO believe that Daniel KNEW what the Covenant was.....the Abrahamic Covenant which is tied to the Land of Israel and which will be the bone of contention throughout the end times....Jerusalem the cup of trembling to the whole world. I believe Obama will "recognize Israel's right to exist" and bring about a restructured Oslo which will divide the Land for peace. (think Palestinian State.) this will result in a temporary false state of peace & security.
I believe we entered the 70th Week, which is simply a passage of time as any other "time.". It's prophetic nature is seen in the events that will take place within it. The reckoning or counting of time cannot be changed back and forth from 360 days to 365 days just to make something "fit." It will be a regular Week of years based on 365 days per year - with the prophetic times of 1260 & 1260 designating each half of the Week which will see the prophetic events taking place. that is why it is not necessary for the confirming of the Covenant to be at the very beginning of the Week. The days which are "left over" from the 2520 prophetic days will leave the extra days to be taken up with the details of the aftermath of His Coming, leading up to the fulfillment of the First Fall Feast - Feast of Trumpets - for His Annointing and Crowning.
I take issue with the idea that you see His coming as being ON Yom Kippur because He cannot fulfill the Second Fall Feast BEFORE the First Fall Feast. He will do everything according to the EXACT DAY in order just as He did on Passover, Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, and Pentecost. He will also fulfill the Fall Feasts AFTER the 70th Week ENDS just as He did the Spring Feasts AFTER the 69th Week ended.
That the Rapture has not taken place at the beginning of the 70th Week does not matter. Right now Jesus is our High Priest, our Advocate before the Father because there is an Accuser present before the throne of God. As long as there are living Believers and as long as there is still the issue of SIN, we need Jesus as our Advocate. But when there is no longer an Accuser (because he is cast out and down permanently to earth) then there is also no longer a NEED for an Advocate. He will descend from Heaven with a shout and take us up. Since satan comes down in the midst of the Week (just shortly before the mid-point) then I see the Resurrection/Rapture taking place shortly before the "midst of the Week "(early 2011 since March is the mid-point.)
When satan is cast to earth, he will receive limited power to empower the antichrist. Believers won't be here to see it, but I expect the antichrist will declare himself god at Passover 2011, an imitation of Jesus. And then the jig is up! When he sets up the idol/image among the people (who are the Temple of God) and demands worship, the Jews will flee, and all hell will break loose.
I've left out details and scriptural references just to simplify this. But they are there. I know this will be met with denials and arguments....but what I hope it leaves you with are questions.....Questions on how your view fits in with these unavoidable facts. We don't have very long left. And to that I say Hallelujah!
Shalom, Sherry
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We are definitely not in Daniels 70th week (the tribulation) because that starts when the antimessiah confirms the covenant with many (which includes Israel) for one week. obama's infomercial on october 29, 2008 was not a confirmation of a seven year covenant with anyone (presidents are elected for four years, not seven) and was nothing more than a narcissist lying to his gullible followers. You can't confirm a covenant unless you have the authority to do so. As a presidential CANDIDATE, there is no authority to confirm any covenant that depends on being president to carry it out. You can make campaign promises but that is not a covenant.
The agenda is by those who claim obama confirmed a covenant on october 29, 2008 and that it started the tribulation (and yet the false prophets that teach this garbage still claim to believe in a pre tribulation rapture???)
false prophet Sherry Vance has an agenda - and it is not to uphold what Messiah Yeshua says and it is not to obey G-d. She claims those who do not believe her false teachings are the ones that "has an agenda" I, for one, watch for Messiah yeshua's return each and every day - I will not put of watching for His return until march 2011 as false prophet Sherry Vance teaches.
Matthew 24
42 "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.
48 But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, 'My master is staying away a long time,' 49 and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. 50 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51 He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/sherryv325-4.htm
Sherry Vance (25 March 2009) "To Ron Reese & His Post from Oct. 2008"
Yes, Ron, I agree we are in the last 7 years, the 70th Week. And I believe it began on Rosh Hashanah 2007/2008 of the Jewish New Year with a 7 year Sabbatical cycle which will end in 2015. I agree that the lunar and solar eclipses will be evidence of his 2nd Coming in the sun, moon, and stars. And, I believe the autumn of 2015 begins not just a new Sabbatical year but also a JUBILEE YEAR!!! I also agree that the “confirming of the covenant with many for ONE WEEK” indicates that that Week is the 70TH WEEK of Daniel.
All of these things simply add more strength to the analogy of the three Weeks of Jacob's Trouble. So many things are right before our eyes that it is almost impossible to deny them....only those who want their agenda to fit God Word's make an argument against it.
Israel was born in a day - 1948. The Fig Tree (Israel) grew leaves (matured) and re-unified Jerusalem in 1967. That was the key to the last generation. As time passed, there would necessarily have to be another key event that unlocked the time of the end and I believe the 1993 Oslo Accord -recognition of Israel's right to exist in the Land- was the key that would enable us to follow Jacob's Trouble as it progressed through the three-week analogy of Israel's "trouble."
Then there was the ending of 6,000 years according to the Jewish calendar.....and the Israeli Rabbis announcing WE ARE IN THE TIME OF JACOB'S TROUBLE.
Four years later the Sanhedrin was re-convened.....a prophetic event that passed by without much understanding of the significance of it (YOU SHALL NOT SEE ME AGAIN UNTIL YOU -the Jewish leaders, the Sanhedrin- SHALL SAY, BLESSED IS HE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD. So they are now on the scene awaiting their prophetic role when "they see Him for the second time."
The issue I disagree with is that of the covenant.....I do not believe it is the "covenant" Obama made with (basically) the world at his announcement. I DO believe that Daniel KNEW what the Covenant was.....the Abrahamic Covenant which is tied to the Land of Israel and which will be the bone of contention throughout the end times....Jerusalem the cup of trembling to the whole world. I believe Obama will "recognize Israel's right to exist" and bring about a restructured Oslo which will divide the Land for peace. (think Palestinian State.) this will result in a temporary false state of peace & security.
I believe we entered the 70th Week, which is simply a passage of time as any other "time.". It's prophetic nature is seen in the events that will take place within it. The reckoning or counting of time cannot be changed back and forth from 360 days to 365 days just to make something "fit." It will be a regular Week of years based on 365 days per year - with the prophetic times of 1260 & 1260 designating each half of the Week which will see the prophetic events taking place. that is why it is not necessary for the confirming of the Covenant to be at the very beginning of the Week. The days which are "left over" from the 2520 prophetic days will leave the extra days to be taken up with the details of the aftermath of His Coming, leading up to the fulfillment of the First Fall Feast - Feast of Trumpets - for His Annointing and Crowning.
I take issue with the idea that you see His coming as being ON Yom Kippur because He cannot fulfill the Second Fall Feast BEFORE the First Fall Feast. He will do everything according to the EXACT DAY in order just as He did on Passover, Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, and Pentecost. He will also fulfill the Fall Feasts AFTER the 70th Week ENDS just as He did the Spring Feasts AFTER the 69th Week ended.
That the Rapture has not taken place at the beginning of the 70th Week does not matter. Right now Jesus is our High Priest, our Advocate before the Father because there is an Accuser present before the throne of God. As long as there are living Believers and as long as there is still the issue of SIN, we need Jesus as our Advocate. But when there is no longer an Accuser (because he is cast out and down permanently to earth) then there is also no longer a NEED for an Advocate. He will descend from Heaven with a shout and take us up. Since satan comes down in the midst of the Week (just shortly before the mid-point) then I see the Resurrection/Rapture taking place shortly before the "midst of the Week "(early 2011 since March is the mid-point.)
When satan is cast to earth, he will receive limited power to empower the antichrist. Believers won't be here to see it, but I expect the antichrist will declare himself god at Passover 2011, an imitation of Jesus. And then the jig is up! When he sets up the idol/image among the people (who are the Temple of God) and demands worship, the Jews will flee, and all hell will break loose.
I've left out details and scriptural references just to simplify this. But they are there. I know this will be met with denials and arguments....but what I hope it leaves you with are questions.....Questions on how your view fits in with these unavoidable facts. We don't have very long left. And to that I say Hallelujah!
Shalom, Sherry
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false prophet Rob Pascale: false prophet Ken Peters is "believable" even though he is wrong and spews false prophecies
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false prophet Rob Pascale is already making excuses for the false prophets that are not taken in the rapture - it is "not their gift"
Reading Revelation chapters 1-3, Messiah yeshua makes it clear that those who are TRULY following Him (by obeying G-d) will be those who are raptured. Thos who are not taken it is because they have NOT been following Him and obeying G-d.
false prophet Ken Peters is a PROVEN false prophet and does NOT speak for G-d and yet false prophet Rob Pascale claims everything false prophet Ken Peters says is "scriptural" ???
II Tim 4:3-4
3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/robp325.htm
Rob Pascale (25 March 2009) "Ken Peters"
Hi John & doves.Last week the name Ken Peters came up in several posts.I met Ken Peters in 1998 or 99. His name kept popping up on the net and he was just starting to speak on the Prophecy Club tour. I went to hear him speak in Boston. Anyone who has seen him on video or in person would agree he is a humble, down to earth man. His testimony " I saw the tribulation" is very compelling, totally believable and scriptural as far as I`m concerned. Some of the doves as well as myself noticed, Ken states, " I did not see a rapture" Here is what I find so interesting, what would you call dead people coming up out of the ground, wearing white glittering robes? I don`t know about you, but as for me, I`d call that a rapture! Now, let`s take a closer look at what is really happening here. Sometimes we miss the forest for the trees. At the close of Ken Peters vision, he accounts to us his death by execution, correct? Doesn`t the book of revelation tell us there is a martyr`s crown, of course it does. Which tells us being chosen to be a martyr is a gift from God. From my understanding it is obvious why Ken would not see a rapture, BEING IN THE RAPTURE IS NOT HIS GIFT ! His gift is to be a tribulation martyr. I`m sharring one of the greatest truths Yeshua has revealed to me. Here is what he has revealed. He is totally sovereign, what that means to me is, You don`t see IT if He doesn`t allow you to see IT ! You don`t get saved unless he allows you to see the truth of the cross. Those allowed to see the truth are called, elect or chosen. Holding to this principle, you don`t understand His truth unless He reveals it to you, that`s why there is so much false doctrine, or as the Word says, doctrines of man. I`ll take it a step further, You can`t even repent unless He allows or calls or allows you to. Repentance is a gift !!! Now that`s a shocker, but that is why we have so much false repentance or repentance that dose not last. Therefore, it is a gift from Yeshua to believe in the rapture. We who believe and are watching for the bridegroom are blessed beyond our understanding. It is a gift.Based on this truth, I never feel the need to argue doctrine, if I can`t see it, it`s either not for me or not His time for me to see it. It is a journey of maturity, some truths I was only allowed to receive after some very painful preparation. I`ll address that in the near future.Now back to Ken Peters. After his testamony, he offered to pray for any and all in attendance that night. He layed hands on me prayed and prophesied, it was very personal and between the Holy Spirit and me. He then encouraged me to prophesy, this is what I prophesied, "cleanse your garments, cleanse your hearts, the Bridegroom is coming" !I have been reading 5doves for several years, I feel it is time to share some of the things Yeshua has revealed to me... I don`t read 5doves every day and I don`t read all the posts, so if I post something redundant look at it as a confirmation to previous post.The Spirit is getting the bride ready, soon, very soon, we are going to see our King.Rob Pascale (25 March 2009) "Ken Peters"
Hi John & doves.Last week the name Ken Peters came up in several posts.I met Ken Peters in 1998 or 99. His name kept popping up on the net and he was just starting to speak on the Prophecy Club tour. I went to hear him speak in Boston. Anyone who has seen him on video or in person would agree he is a humble, down to earth man. His testimony " I saw the tribulation" is very compelling, totally believable and scriptural as far as I`m concerned. Some of the doves as well as myself noticed, Ken states, " I did not see a rapture" Here is what I find so interesting, what would you call dead people coming up out of the ground, wearing white glittering robes? I don`t know about you, but as for me, I`d call that a rapture! Now, let`s take a closer look at what is really happening here. Sometimes we miss the forest for the trees. At the close of Ken Peters vision, he accounts to us his death by execution, correct? Doesn`t the book of revelation tell us there is a martyr`s crown, of course it does. Which tells us being chosen to be a martyr is a gift from God. From my understanding it is obvious why Ken would not see a rapture, BEING IN THE RAPTURE IS NOT HIS GIFT ! His gift is to be a tribulation martyr. I`m sharring one of the greatest truths Yeshua has revealed to me. Here is what he has revealed. He is totally sovereign, what that means to me is, You don`t see IT if He doesn`t allow you to see IT ! You don`t get saved unless he allows you to see the truth of the cross. Those allowed to see the truth are called, elect or chosen. Holding to this principle, you don`t understand His truth unless He reveals it to you, that`s why there is so much false doctrine, or as the Word says, doctrines of man. I`ll take it a step further, You can`t even repent unless He allows or calls or allows you to. Repentance is a gift !!! Now that`s a shocker, but that is why we have so much false repentance or repentance that dose not last. Therefore, it is a gift from Yeshua to believe in the rapture. We who believe and are watching for the bridegroom are blessed beyond our understanding. It is a gift.Based on this truth, I never feel the need to argue doctrine, if I can`t see it, it`s either not for me or not His time for me to see it. It is a journey of maturity, some truths I was only allowed to receive after some very painful preparation. I`ll address that in the near future.Now back to Ken Peters. After his testamony, he offered to pray for any and all in attendance that night. He layed hands on me prayed and prophesied, it was very personal and between the Holy Spirit and me. He then encouraged me to prophesy, this is what I prophesied, "cleanse your garments, cleanse your hearts, the Bridegroom is coming" !I have been reading 5doves for several years, I feel it is time to share some of the things Yeshua has revealed to me... I don`t read 5doves every day and I don`t read all the posts, so if I post something redundant look at it as a confirmation to previous post.The Spirit is getting the bride ready, soon, very soon, we are going to see our King.Rob Pascale
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false prophet Rob Pascale is already making excuses for the false prophets that are not taken in the rapture - it is "not their gift"
Reading Revelation chapters 1-3, Messiah yeshua makes it clear that those who are TRULY following Him (by obeying G-d) will be those who are raptured. Thos who are not taken it is because they have NOT been following Him and obeying G-d.
false prophet Ken Peters is a PROVEN false prophet and does NOT speak for G-d and yet false prophet Rob Pascale claims everything false prophet Ken Peters says is "scriptural" ???
II Tim 4:3-4
3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/robp325.htm
Rob Pascale (25 March 2009) "Ken Peters"
Hi John & doves.Last week the name Ken Peters came up in several posts.I met Ken Peters in 1998 or 99. His name kept popping up on the net and he was just starting to speak on the Prophecy Club tour. I went to hear him speak in Boston. Anyone who has seen him on video or in person would agree he is a humble, down to earth man. His testimony " I saw the tribulation" is very compelling, totally believable and scriptural as far as I`m concerned. Some of the doves as well as myself noticed, Ken states, " I did not see a rapture" Here is what I find so interesting, what would you call dead people coming up out of the ground, wearing white glittering robes? I don`t know about you, but as for me, I`d call that a rapture! Now, let`s take a closer look at what is really happening here. Sometimes we miss the forest for the trees. At the close of Ken Peters vision, he accounts to us his death by execution, correct? Doesn`t the book of revelation tell us there is a martyr`s crown, of course it does. Which tells us being chosen to be a martyr is a gift from God. From my understanding it is obvious why Ken would not see a rapture, BEING IN THE RAPTURE IS NOT HIS GIFT ! His gift is to be a tribulation martyr. I`m sharring one of the greatest truths Yeshua has revealed to me. Here is what he has revealed. He is totally sovereign, what that means to me is, You don`t see IT if He doesn`t allow you to see IT ! You don`t get saved unless he allows you to see the truth of the cross. Those allowed to see the truth are called, elect or chosen. Holding to this principle, you don`t understand His truth unless He reveals it to you, that`s why there is so much false doctrine, or as the Word says, doctrines of man. I`ll take it a step further, You can`t even repent unless He allows or calls or allows you to. Repentance is a gift !!! Now that`s a shocker, but that is why we have so much false repentance or repentance that dose not last. Therefore, it is a gift from Yeshua to believe in the rapture. We who believe and are watching for the bridegroom are blessed beyond our understanding. It is a gift.Based on this truth, I never feel the need to argue doctrine, if I can`t see it, it`s either not for me or not His time for me to see it. It is a journey of maturity, some truths I was only allowed to receive after some very painful preparation. I`ll address that in the near future.Now back to Ken Peters. After his testamony, he offered to pray for any and all in attendance that night. He layed hands on me prayed and prophesied, it was very personal and between the Holy Spirit and me. He then encouraged me to prophesy, this is what I prophesied, "cleanse your garments, cleanse your hearts, the Bridegroom is coming" !I have been reading 5doves for several years, I feel it is time to share some of the things Yeshua has revealed to me... I don`t read 5doves every day and I don`t read all the posts, so if I post something redundant look at it as a confirmation to previous post.The Spirit is getting the bride ready, soon, very soon, we are going to see our King.Rob Pascale (25 March 2009) "Ken Peters"
Hi John & doves.Last week the name Ken Peters came up in several posts.I met Ken Peters in 1998 or 99. His name kept popping up on the net and he was just starting to speak on the Prophecy Club tour. I went to hear him speak in Boston. Anyone who has seen him on video or in person would agree he is a humble, down to earth man. His testimony " I saw the tribulation" is very compelling, totally believable and scriptural as far as I`m concerned. Some of the doves as well as myself noticed, Ken states, " I did not see a rapture" Here is what I find so interesting, what would you call dead people coming up out of the ground, wearing white glittering robes? I don`t know about you, but as for me, I`d call that a rapture! Now, let`s take a closer look at what is really happening here. Sometimes we miss the forest for the trees. At the close of Ken Peters vision, he accounts to us his death by execution, correct? Doesn`t the book of revelation tell us there is a martyr`s crown, of course it does. Which tells us being chosen to be a martyr is a gift from God. From my understanding it is obvious why Ken would not see a rapture, BEING IN THE RAPTURE IS NOT HIS GIFT ! His gift is to be a tribulation martyr. I`m sharring one of the greatest truths Yeshua has revealed to me. Here is what he has revealed. He is totally sovereign, what that means to me is, You don`t see IT if He doesn`t allow you to see IT ! You don`t get saved unless he allows you to see the truth of the cross. Those allowed to see the truth are called, elect or chosen. Holding to this principle, you don`t understand His truth unless He reveals it to you, that`s why there is so much false doctrine, or as the Word says, doctrines of man. I`ll take it a step further, You can`t even repent unless He allows or calls or allows you to. Repentance is a gift !!! Now that`s a shocker, but that is why we have so much false repentance or repentance that dose not last. Therefore, it is a gift from Yeshua to believe in the rapture. We who believe and are watching for the bridegroom are blessed beyond our understanding. It is a gift.Based on this truth, I never feel the need to argue doctrine, if I can`t see it, it`s either not for me or not His time for me to see it. It is a journey of maturity, some truths I was only allowed to receive after some very painful preparation. I`ll address that in the near future.Now back to Ken Peters. After his testamony, he offered to pray for any and all in attendance that night. He layed hands on me prayed and prophesied, it was very personal and between the Holy Spirit and me. He then encouraged me to prophesy, this is what I prophesied, "cleanse your garments, cleanse your hearts, the Bridegroom is coming" !I have been reading 5doves for several years, I feel it is time to share some of the things Yeshua has revealed to me... I don`t read 5doves every day and I don`t read all the posts, so if I post something redundant look at it as a confirmation to previous post.The Spirit is getting the bride ready, soon, very soon, we are going to see our King.Rob Pascale
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