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false prophet Mark Copfer claims the apostle Paul said "nobody would know the day or the hour" (referring to the rapture) before Messiah Yeshua had gone to heaven.
1) Messiah Yeshua, Himself, was the speaker of those words
2) The Apostle Paul did not become an Apostle until well after Messiah Yeshua was in heaven - in fact, he persecuted believers long after Messiah Yeshua was in heaven and did not become Messiah Yeshua's Apostle until long after. He is the only Apostle that did not see Messiah Yeshua before the Ressurection
Messiah Yeshua said we will NOT know the day or the hour of the rapture and that we are to 'KEEP WATCH' He would not be telling us to 'KEEP WATCH' if we were able to figure out the day of the rapture. This is something the false prophets and their deluded followers fail to comprehend.
Matthew 25
6"At midnight the cry rang out: 'Here's the bridegroom! Come out to meet him!'
7"Then all the virgins woke up and trimmed their lamps. 8The foolish ones said to the wise, 'Give us some of your oil; our lamps are going out.'
9" 'No,' they replied, 'there may not be enough for both us and you. Instead, go to those who sell oil and buy some for yourselves.'
10"But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shut.
11"Later the others also came. 'Sir! Sir!' they said. 'Open the door for us!'
12"But he replied, 'I tell you the truth, I don't know you.'
13"Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2009/markc213-3.htm
Mark Copfer (13 Feb 2009) "Re:what is a generation"
You said: I know we are close, but I don't think we can ever know for sure the exact date as Jesus said "no man know the hour or date"Again, you, along with many many others, have mis-understood what the exact meaning of what that biblical verse means. Do you know who spoke it, and during which time it was spoken, and to whom it was spoken to ??? I can assure you it was Paul, and he was not speaking to us, the generation on earth in 2009. And the time that he spoke it, Jesus has not gone to heaven yet..So back when Paul spoke these words, of course nobody could know the day or hour, or time of Jesus return...but bet your life now, Jesus knows exactly when he is coming back, as he is in Heaven...This verse was NOT spoken to have reference to US, Christians here on earth, in 2009. We will indeed know the season, as we are in it right now according to Psalms108/109... And I think its a pretty fair statement to say that our redemption will most likely come in the fall, because the Feast of Trumpets cannot be fulfilled after the Christians have already been raptured. However, Yom Kippur and Tabernacles can and will be fulfilled after the rapture has taken place. The reason the feast of trumpets cannot be fulfilled after the rapture, is because of the Bema Judgement Seat of Christ. So the bottom line is, there are 3 fall festivals yet to be fulfilled, and in ORDER. To me, we have a pretty clear cut timeline if you take the 3 fall feasts into consideration, and Psalms 108/109, and the Bema Judgement Seat of Christ. We are in the season, and we can see how things are changing ever so fast, day to day, and I mean really changing, the kind of change that these people voted for. Jesus will not delay his coming for us at the rapture past 2009 in my opinion, and according to the Psalms 109. The Church is gone before chapter 109 becomes complete.
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