confirmed false prophet: John S. Lawler Sr.

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As I previously posted, the x-mass day prophecy of "a disaster that will shake the nation to its core" has failed. Of course, false prophet John S. lawler Sr. will never repent - watch him claim the airline bombing that was averted was "God's mercy" and the judgment that would have happened except 'our prayer changed God's mind about the judgment"

If this had "come from the Lord" it would not have failed and the false prophet would have KNOWN it was from God. He obviously stated this was from God and it failed - making him a confirmed false prophet. If he did not know for sure it was from God, he should never have posted it. When God tells you something, there is ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT it is from God. If one does not know if something is from God or not, then they have obviously never heard from God because when He gives you a prophecy, you KNOW it is from Him and you KNOW it is true.

God did not speak to this false prophet yet somone (something) told him this - obviously this false prophet is listening to lying spirits. Since x-mass day was so important to this demon, it seems likely it is from ba-al / ra / tammuz / mithra - the sun "god" who is celebrated on x-mass day.

http://falseprophetwatch.blogspot.com/2009/11/prophecy-for-x-mas-day.html

“I am bringing a disaster upon this land on Christmas day that will shake this nation to its very foundation”. He told me the same thing on 10-21-09 and so that is why I am posting this today at this time. I really believe this came from the Lord

False prophet ron Reese - does not understand simple biblical truths

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There are many false prophets on the five demons ("doves" ) web site that have been hearing knocking sounds. Some of them claim the knocking is satanic and "rebuke" the knocking. Others quote the verse spoken by Messiah Yeshua (Jesus) "Behold, I stand at the door, and knock" Yet they fail to quote the other half of the verse:

Revelation 3:20
"Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will eat with him, and he with me.

False prophet Ron Reese is trying to claim the knocking is a warning of messiah Yeshua's soon return - while Messiah Yeshua says it is Him trying to get the attention of the false prophets so that they may be saved. False prophet rfon Reese is re-interpreting what Messiah Yeshua said by combining two verses with two different meanings for the word 'door' (the second one meaning the closeness of the time) because he thinks he is already following Messiah Yeshua and does not need to answer His knock.

Obviously Messiah Yeshua is trying to get their attention and is trying hard to get them to open the door to their hearts - yet they are ignoring Him. This is typical of false "christians" who think they are already saved and yet are going down the broad road to hell. Messiah Yeshua tells us what their fate will be:

Matthew 7
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2009/ronr1215-1.htm

Ron Reese (15 Dec 2009)
"knocking sounds"

Hi Doves,

During the past year or so, several watchers have been awakened by distinct, loud, knocking sounds, sounding like someone is knocking on a door very close by. Someone who experienced this recently asked in a post, what this could mean. It has happened to me three times in the past year, so I can identify with you.

If this happens to you, here is what I believe the Lord would have us to do. First, ask yourself, was this part of a dream, or was it definitely an external sound, outside of your dream? Secondly, immediately look at the clock. Thirdly, take note of the date. Fourthly, pray, and ask the Lord, for discernment. If there is no possible physical explanation of the knocking sounds, then the knocking probably came from an angel of the Lord.

Jesus said, "Behold, I stand at the door and KNOCK." Jesus also said, "you COULD KNOW WHEN HIS RETURN IS NEAR, EVEN AT THE DOORS." Because these KNOCKING sounds sound like KNOCKS on a DOOR and are occurring to so many of the Lord's watchmen, it is my conclusion that the Lord is trying to give us a warning about His SOON return. Ask the Lord for discernment, concerning the date and/or time of the knocking sounds.

Then, we should be asking, "Why me, Lord?" Is there something in my life that is not pleasing to you? Is there someone whom you want me to warn about your Soon Return?" Are these knocks just an assurance and encouragement that the Rapture is going to happen SOON, and my troubles on this earth are soon to come to an end? Show me, Lord, what You are trying to reveal to me, concerning these knocking sounds."

Sharing these experiences with Five Doves can be a very encouraging sign for other watchers. So, please share your "knocking sound" experiences with the rest of us, unless directed otherwise by the Lord. I believe that these types of experiences are only going to increase as we approach the SOON-COMING RAPTURE. Because of the tremendous magnitude of what is SOON to take place, regarding the Sudden Destruction/Rapture, the warning signs, both to the entire body of Christ, and individually, will be greatly increasing, both in frequency and intensity.

Maranatha!

Ron Reese
rgreese49@aol.com
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False prophet Kent Crumpler thinks God uses confusion to guide His people

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God does not use numerology / license plates / astrology / other practices He has forbidden to drop "clues" so that people can figure out something Messiah Yeshua (Jesus) said people would not know. Yet the five demons ("doves") AKA - the five fruitcakes - claims God is giving hints so numerologists and astrologers can figure out the day of the rapture. Messiah Yeshua was speaking of THIS generation when He said to "Keep watch because you do not know when I will return". He never would have said this if God was going to drop hints so people can figure out the day of His return.

If God would have wanted us to know the day of the rapture, He would clearly tell us and nobody would have any doubt what day it would be and that it is from Him. Yet the five fruitcakes there are numerous numerologists and astrologers coming up with so many different days and timeline scams (oops - schemes) that it is total confusion - and God is NOT the author of confusion.

1Corinthians 14
33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

It is time to use discernment and recognize that many false prophets have snuck into your homes (through the internet) and are deceiving you with lies and fairy tales.

2 Timothy 3
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2009/kentc1215.htm

Kent Crumpler (15 Dec 2009)
"Reply To Kevin Heckle's Astronomical Discovery in Revelation: PART II"

All I can say is wow! It's amazing to see what God has revealed to you. He is obviously using us in different ways to piece it all together.

I have already believed that the final 7 years started in 2008 and also who the AC is after the Lord showed &/or told me this information. Also, thanks to the Holy Spirit, I received more confirmation in Ezekial 17, 26-28 of who the AC is and what America's role will be in the end times. There are other scriptures but these stand out for me.

Your current postings re: astronomical discoveries in Revelation serves for me, and perhaps other Doves, as further confirmation of what I already believe. Praise God! This new information should further confirm Ron Reese's findings as well. I had already agreed with most of Ron Reese's findings since they explain the information I have received from the Lord, that I didn't understand at first, because it didn't match up with common teachings and thoughts on the final 7 years.

Great work Kevin!

YBIC,
Kent
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False Prophet Kevin Heckle -astrologer who claims he isn't

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God forbids His people from using astrology to figure out human events. This is the definition of astrology at dictionary.com:

as⋅trol⋅o⋅gy
 
–noun
1. the study that assumes and attempts to interpret the influence of the heavenly bodies on human affairs.

Yet false prophet kevin Heckle claims he is not using astrology but using "only astronomical timing)" to figure out what is going to happen - THIS *IS* ASTROLOGY whether he claims it is or not. False prophet Kevin Heckle is using divination practices God has forbidden His people to use while claiming he is not using it. Yet there is nobody at the five demons ("doves") web site that has any discernment left and sees this for the evil practices God has forbidden us to use.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2009/kevinh1219.htm


Kevin Heckle (19 Dec 2009)
"Re: [Fwd: Question for KevinHeckle] ALSO Re: Ron R. 'to the minute'"

Kevin have you looked ahead into the 2060 - 2085 time period to see if the alignments that you have come up with will occur in that time period ? I have some very compelling reasons for asking.

Your work on the astrological signs of times is well done and very interesting.

Phil2


Phil,
To answer your question on the 'same alignment' between 2060 -2085. First, let me explain the criteria by which I had searched. The virtual telescope that I had used, like most, is in UTC time. I set it at 00:00:00 UTC which would be the night time on the east coast in America (8PM) the preceeding day as UTC is ahead of EST. That having been said, the moon advances much quicker through its orbit than the sun does through its ecliptic, (30 days vs. year). I looked for a time when the sun had fully advanced to the left heal star of Virgo and then looked to see if the moon was 'below' meaning past (in Right Ascension) her right foot (which is the higher foot in the sky). This star is Mu Virginis at 14h 43 min 4 sec RA. For the moon to be just 'below her feet' then, it would have to be at least to 14h, 43min, 4.1 seconds. To Ron Reese. who stated that the event occurred 'to the minute' is a slight misunderstanding, although not completely. The moon would have past (below) her foot at 11:39AM on 10-29-08. However, due to the actual WIDTH of the close object which is the moon I could NOT say for sure within a margin of error EXACTLY when the COMPLETE moon passed the distant star's RA line at 14h 43min 4 sec (her foot) plus .1 second RA. Looking at 00:00:00 UTC on that day I'm pretty dogone sure though, with the moon at 14h 58min RA on on that day, it had completely past those coordinates (the star) by 8PM. That having been said, the event that did occur at 8PM that night was the moon had went below her feet AND had reached the intersecting line from the mouth of the dragon(DRACO), through the crown of stars(CORONA BOREALIS), through the mouth of the serpent (SERPENS) and to the tip of the Beast Rising from the Sea's (Hydra) tail. This was essential to framing the Biblical narrative. If there were no DEMARKATION line given in the narrative than the moon could be considered 'BELOW' Virgo's foot at least HALF of the time every month (until it comes back around again from 180 degrees of the earth). I know, TMI. Keep in mind I'm not a professional astronomer. They could tell you within fractions of a second when specific events had occurred. I am only attempting to narrow it down to a hour on the day during each year (10-29,30) the sun has 'fully clothed' Virgo. The moon's position below her feet did narrow down the time frame of the sun's days in that area. As time goes on, precession will move that date, but not in my lifetime.

To answer your simple question: there are two somewhat similar alignment events that I could find between 2060 and 2085.

The first occurs in 10-29-2065 EST, a few hours later around 10 PM but the moon is just past her right foot by a few minutes of RA and has not reached the demarkation line described. Mars is absent here (not that that has any timing signifigance as I'm not touting any sort of astrology, only astronomical timing).

The second occurs 10-29-2084, although the sun will have advanced a little further to 14h 20min RA, the moon at 14h 45min not having reached the demarkation line until 1:30AM EST on 10-30, the next day.

From your time frame of 2060-2085 in the question, I suspect you already knew these dates. ;-)

God Bless,
Kevin H.

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false prophet Calvin ("C.W.") is now claiming venus is "Jesus"

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False prophet "C.W." (Calvin) is claiming venus is "Jesus'. this is absolutely demonic and is why Gd is allowing demons to deceive this false prophet giving him dreams / visions about numbers. False prophet Calvin is claiming the numbers he sees is "God trying to tell us something' The God of Abraham, isaac, and Israel (Jacob) does not communicate with numbers like this. If He wants to tell us something, it will be communicated clearly and there is absolutely no doubt whatsoever it is from Him. These numbers are a deception by a lying spirit.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2009/cw129-1.htm

C.W. (9 Dec 2009)
"MIDNIGHT - There's ALWAYS options!!!"

MIDNIGHT - There's ALWAYS options!!!

ALL:

Some might say ALL our decisions were made when we trusted the Lord
to be our Saviour. That takes care of everything.

But, there are ALWAYS options.

There was an option for Adam and Eve. They were told (although obviously
VERY blessed) the ONLY thing that they were NOT to do was to eat of the
fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

There was an option for the wife of Lot. She was told NOT to look back
and she would escape but she DID look back.

In order to be SURE that we love God, He always gives us options. These
"options" are ALL SUMMED UP in the parable of the MIDNIGHT VIRGINS!!!
Some had "oil" (representative of the Holy Spirit) and some did NOT!!! This
"oil" will represent just "how" they respond to the Holy Spirit.

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There have been 8 full moons since the occultation of Venus ("Jesus"), and,
on the SAME DAY, Charity heard, "5, 6, 7, JESUS!!!" and saw the door of the
Ark SLAM SHUT!!! NOTE VERY CAREFULLY that the VERY FIRST FULL
MOON after these events came at EXACTLY 12:01 a.m. EDT or MIDNIGHT
by DC time!!!!!!!!!

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[Charity wrote (on R.I.T.A.) on 4/22 (the day of Venus' hiding)!!!!]

I heard, "5, 6, 7, JESUS!" as Noah's Ark closed with a bang!

Okay, this is crazy!

I was in the kitchen cleaning up from lunch when I suddenly got a
splitting headache! So I quickly got the rest of the food in the
fridge while cringing in pain, and then layed down with a pillow over
my head (my "do not disturb" sign)

Well, anyway, about five minutes after laying down, I heard "5, 6, 7,
JESUS!" in my head. This kept repeating over and over..."5, 6, 7,
JESUS!" And with each "JESUS", I saw the door of Noah's Ark being shut
with a loud "BANG". So I heard "JESUS" and "BANG" at the same time.

Any ideas about the "5, 6, 7"? I really don't know. I've still got a
pretty bad headache, but I just HAD to come post this and see what
y'all think. I'll check back in a bit!

Love to you all, in the name of our BLESSED SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST!

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Moon Phases:

http://wise-obs.tau.ac.il/~eran/Sky/MoonPhase.html

2009 4 25 3:24.2 New Moon
2009 5 9 4: 1.7 Full Moon
2009 5 24 12:12.3 New Moon
2009 6 7 18:12.4 Full Moon
2009 7 7 9:22.4 Full Moon
2009 8 6 0:56.0 Full Moon
2009 9 4 16: 3.9 Full Moon
2009 10 4 6:11.6 Full Moon
2009 11 2 19:15.5 Full Moon
2009 12 2 7:32.2 Full Moon
2009 12 16 12: 3.5 New Moon
2009 12 31 19:14.3 Full Moon

(sent out on May 23, 2009)

The U.S. has opened the doors to the CURSE of God through
negotiating with Israel's enemies. There is NO DOUBT she has
left her Christian roots and has gone over to the DARK side.

From: Thursday, May 15-16, 2003 - Scorpion Moon over DC
To: Saturday, May 23-24, 2009 - "DARK" of the moon
It is 2200 days
11 = chaos; judgment
2 = union; division; struggle
100 = the elect; children of the promise

...Full Lunar Eclipse Visible throughout Eastern United States on May 15

http://web.archive.org/web/20030824225349/www.nrao.edu/news/lunar.shtml

...Photos of the eclipse:

http://www.spaceweather.com/eclipses/gallery_15may03.html

(Sent out on May 7, 2009):

Is this Midnight (12:01 a.m. EDT, 5/9) full moon a "death" moon?

ALL:

The Israelites escaped the "DEATH" angel on a "MIDNIGHT"!!!!

...Exodus 11

...4 And Moses said, Thus saith the LORD, About MIDNIGHT
...will I go out into the midst of Egypt: 5 And all the firstborn
...in the land of Egypt shall die, from the first born of Pharaoh
...that sitteth upon his throne, even unto the firstborn of the
...maidservant that is behind the mill; and all the firstborn of
...beasts. 6 And there shall be a great cry throughout all the
...land of Egypt, such as there was none like it, nor shall be
...like it any more.

...Exodus 12
...29 And it came to pass, that at MIDNIGHT the LORD smote
...all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of
...Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the
...captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle.
...30 And Pharaoh rose up in the night, he, and all his servants,
...and all the Egyptians; and there was a great cry in Egypt; for
...there was not a house where there was not one dead.

The Scorpion Moon had some VERY ominous meanings. I decided
to "see" if 23 ("death") would divide into the number of days between
these 2 FULL MOONS. YES!!!

...From: May 15-16, 2003 - midnight EDT (Scorpion Eclipse)
...To: May 8-9, 2009, full moon, midnight EDT (12:01 a.m., 5/9)
...It is 2185 days
...Or 5 years, 11 months, 23 days
...5 = "grace"
...11 = "chaos"
...23 = "death"
...23 X 5 X 19 = 2185

...Psalm 19

...4 Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end
...of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,
...5 Which is as a BRIDEGROOM COMING OUT OF HIS CHAMBER,
...and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.

...Revelation 19

...9 And he saith unto me, Write, BLESSED ARE THEY WHICH ARE
...CALLED UNTO THE MARRIAGE SUPPER OF THE LAMB. And he
...saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

...From:
...Notes on Revelation Iyyar/Sivan, 5763 (May/June, 2003)
...13 Iyyar, 5763 (May 15, 2003)
...Lunar eclipse/"Night of the Scorpion Moon"

http://web.archive.org/web/20031015025201/www.mv.com/ipusers/butterfly/rev/iyyar.htm
...The prophet, Joel, depicts the signs preceding the Second
...Coming of Christ and The Day of the Lord when he writes,

......"And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth,
......blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. The sun shall be
......turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the
......great and terrible day of the Lord come."

...The early Rabbis considered an eclipse of the Moon (Lavanah)
...as a "bad omen" for the nation of Israel. Anciently, a "blood red
...moon" symbolized violence, war, and evil factions rising up
...against the nation of Israel. (1) More importantly, a red moon
...historically and Biblically indicates a period of judgment
...(Isaiah 13:9-10; 24:23) for the wicked.

...Our Rabbis taught, When the sun is in eclipse it is a bad
...omen for idolaters; when Lavanah (Moon) is in eclipse, it is a
...bad omen for Israel, since Israel reckons by Lavanah (Moon)
...and idolaters by the sun. If it is in eclipse in the east, it is a
...bad omen fort hose who dwell in the east; if in the west, it is a
...bad omen for those who dwell in the west; if in the midst of
...heaven it is bad omen for the whole world. If its face is red as
...blood, [it is a sign that] the sword is coming to the world; if it
...is like sack-cloth, the arrows of famine are coming to the world;
...if it resembles both, the sword and the arrows of famine are
...coming to the world

The above calculations and notations might explain the little girl's
insistance on asking her mother about this number, 23!!!

From:
Biblical Meaning Of The Number 23?
The Vision My Daughter Received Involving That Number!

About one year ago my daughter came to me saying "Mom I keep getting
this number in my head and it is everywhere I look!" Somewhat puzzled
I said, "What is it?" and she proceed to tell me "It's the number 23!"

I said oh oh ok…..hmmmm…and said oh it's nothing and left it at that.
But a couple weeks later she came to me again saying the same thing! I
thought well maybe there is something to this? But what?

My daughter loves God with all her heart. She is saved born-again
Holy-Spirit filled tongue talking and on fire for God! She has had
visions and dreams…She has this passion about the Lord that truly is
remarkable!

Really at first I did not pay to much attention to her. But after we
started to search out we found that not only is this number of major
significance but the fact that she has been seeing this number for
almost a year tells us there is something God is trying to show us!

So one night about 4 months after she first came to me telling me of
this number, we were playing a board game together in our living room.
Spending time together is something we do on a regular basis. As we
were sitting there she brought up the number 23 again!

I asked her if she still was seeing that number and she said "Yes!" "I
see it all the time!" Then I sat there silent for a moment and then
said "God if your trying to show us something can you show us more?"

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Call me CRAZY, but this song was on my heart this morning!!!

Cher & Sonny - I Got You Babe - Karaoke

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbK1pFxOryI&feature=related

BLESSINGS~~~~~~~~~~~~

Calvin

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The crazy, wacky world of false prophet Gina McCray

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Now false prophet Gina McCray is claiming she can manipulate the numbers to make it actually the year 2012 right now (it's still 2009) trying to make the mayan so-called prophecies of our year 2012 fit for 2009. Unfortunately for her, there is still three years left on the mayan calendar regardless of what year our calendar says it is. The mayan calendar originated "within a day or two of 13 August, 3114 BC." ( http://www.members.shaw.ca/mjfinley/calnote.htm ) and has absolutely nothing to do with the year 2012 - it just happens to translate to that date on our current calendar.

Once again, this proves the false prophets will twist and trample the facts to make them say what they want them to say.

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Gina McCray (9 Dec 2009)
"Physical proof that we are in 2012!!!"

Doves,

This new evidence on the Shroud of Turn not only give us physical proof of the Resurrection of our Lord but it also give us incredible information regarding where we really are on the timeline. I believe God has revealed this in the lateness of the hour.

I researched the year if the Tiberius's reign was and the general consensus is 30AD. Since Jesus was 33 at His Death then that would show that our calendar is off by 3
years.

I am no mathematician but this sounds correct to me! Therefore, we are not in 2009 but 2012 as I have seen surmised by some but for other rationales.

I would love some input from the Doves on this that I find incredible. John, I know you are a mathematical genius so you can probably verify this.

If this is true as it appears, what does this indicate??

Amazed and perplexed!
YSIC,

Gina

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False prophet Brenda Robinson - making up new [false] doctrines

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False prophet Brends Robinson is making up false doctrines and is now claiming some Christians will be raptured to heaven and others "will be changed and remain on earth to instruct and lead those sleeping in the church" This is entirely unbiblical and may be used to explain why the false prophets are left behind. They will claim since they weren't raptured, they were changed so they could be the leaders and work for God - "doing God's service on earth" when they will actually be doing antichrist's work and will be working for the antichrist:

John 16
2 They will ban you from the synagogue; in fact, the time will come when anyone who kills you will think he is serving God!
3 They will do these things because they have understood neither the Father nor me.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2009/brendar129-2.htm

Brenda Robinson (9 Dec 2009)
"Do you think .... Could it be ..."

(No hate mail over this please!)

We have all come up with a "window" for the rapture. The Lord has told us that we wouldn't know the exact time or date.

Could it be - that there will be different times for each of us within this window?

I have read that some believe in the Elijah/Elisha rapture - which means those that are "Elijah" will be taken to heaven and those that are the "Elijahs" will be changed and remain on earth to instruct and lead those sleeping in the church (and those led into the wilderness).

Just something to think about.

"Changed in an instant."

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False prophet Bruce Turner using the bible ouija board wheel to "verify" false prophecies

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God said divination is an abomination to him and yet false prophets such as Bruce Turner uses a "bible wheel" (combination of ouija board and catholocism's pagan sun wheel (see http://www.hol.com/~mikesch/wheel.htm ) which is put into "christian" terms to deceive.

Deuteronomy 18
10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,
11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.

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Bruce Turner (9 Dec 2009)
"REF: Brenda Robinson (5 Dec 2009) "OH MY GOSH!- BRENDA a CONFIRMATION THE 12-12-09 RAPTURE IS CONNECTED TO THIS EVENT!"

Reference:

Brenda Robinson (5 Dec 2009)
"OH MY GOSH! OH MY GOSH! OH MY GOLLY GOSH! COMET DEBRIS DUE HERE DEC 13TH! Rev 12:4(?)

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2009/brendar125-6.htm

Brenda, Great Post! It caught my attention, so I did some research and found this information
on the name "Geminids", the meteor showers which you were talking about in your post that are coming and peaks on December 13th and 14th. I believe that the Rapture is connected to this meteor shower. I will explain what I have found by my research on this event. Below is a link to the Geminids meteor showers. The Geminids Meteor Shower begins December 7th and continues until December 17th. By using the English Gematria Calculator, I came up with a Gematria of 480, which I checked in both Hebrew and Greek (link is below). The I used the Bible Wheel to look everything up.

http://www.meteorblog.com/

http://landmarkbiblebaptist.net/666-888.html

First let's look at the Revelation 12 connection, In verse 12:9 we see Satan and his angels cast out of the Heavens, the upper atmosphere to the earth. I believe that this is where the Geminids Meteor Shower begins on December 7th and continues until December 17th. From verse 2:10 we see a picture that Salvation and the Kingdom of God, and the power of Christ has come. In verse 12:11 and they (His Bride) overcame him (Satan) the accuser of our brethren, by the Blood of Christ. In verse 12:12 it says for ye Heavens to rejoice, and ye (His Bride) that dwell in them. I believe that is referring to Satan being cast out of Heaven, to the earth, and to the the Bride of Jesus who has just been Raptured and now dwell in Heaven. The devil is come to the inhabiters of the earth and sea, having great wrath, because he hath but a short time. TAKE NOTICE THE VERSE NUMBER, it is in Revelation verse 12:12 (is the number which I believe is the Sign of Jonah given to us by Jesus), that everyone who dwells in Heaven are told to REJOICE! See my post below on the Sign of Jonah, in that post I said that 12-12-2009 is a date that I feel that the Lord showed me.

It was today that I just discovered this information on the Geminids meteor shower by reading Brenda's post and doing some research. And this what I found, I believe that this is another confirming witness from the Lord that the Rapture is on 12-12-2009.

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2009/brucet128-2.htm

Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Revelation 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
Revelation 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Revelation 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

What is interesting and unusual about this, is that in both Hebrew and in Greek, the Gematria for "Germinids" seems to relate to bad things which are fixing to happen. Woe! Alas! Looks like a judgement is fixing to come at last! In the Hebrew H0480, and a Gematria of 71:

אללי 'alelay {al-le-lah'ee} by reduplication from 0421; TWOT - 101; interj AV - woe 2; 2 1) woe! alas!
Gematria: 71

All Verses containing Hebrew Strong's Number H0480
Book Verses
Job 10:15
Mic 7:1
2 Verses Found in 2 Books.

[GR] > The Number 71 - Fullness

http://www.biblewheel.com/gr/gr_71.asp

And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

Matthew 3.16

The Number 71 is strongly associated with the Holy Spirit (710). Its primary meaning is Fulness and Dove. It appears in Scripture in Numbers 11.16:

And the LORD said unto Moses, Gather unto me seventy men of the elders of Israel, whom thou knowest to be the elders of the people, and officers over them; and bring them unto the tabernacle of the congregation, that they may stand there with thee. And I will come down and talk with thee there: and I will take of the spirit which is upon thee, and will put it upon them; and they shall bear the burden of the people with thee, that thou bear it not thyself alone.
The Lord God Almighty placed His Spirit upon 71 people.

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Now this will blow your mind, it's one one the Related numbers to Number 71. Here is the link to it if you want to see this for yourself:

http://www.biblewheel.com/GR/GR_710.asp

[GR] > The Number 710 - The Holy Spirit

These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.

John 15.9
The Number 710
The Holy Spirit

Pnuema Hagion
The Joy

He Chara
Golden CandleStick [Zech 4.2]

Menorat Zaheb
were baptized [Rom 6.3]

ebaptisthemen
The Holy Spirit = 710 = 10 x 71 (Dove)
Fulness (71), Joy, and the Holy Spirit are deeply related in Scripture:

Thou wilt shew me the path of life: in thy presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore. [Psalm 16.11]

He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom’s voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled.[John 3.29 ]

Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory: Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls. [I Peter 1.8]

And another related numer is 801, check this out! See for yourself, link is below!

[GR] > The Number 801 - Alpha and Omega

http://www.biblewheel.com/GR/GR_801.asp

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Revelation 1.8
These profound identities, designed by the Lord God Almighty to declare His everlasting identity as Alpha and Omega, the Creator, are discussed in context in Gematria and Scripture. It is certainly one of the greatest alphanumeric identities designed by the Lord God Almighty to identify Himself.
The Number 801

Alpha + Omega

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The Creator

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Ho Ktisas

Dove

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Peristera

Of Love (genitive) [I Thes 1.3]

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tes agapes

My Exceeding Joy [Ps 43.4]

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Note the last identity from Psalm 43 is also profoundly integrated with the meaning of the Number 43 which relates to the Spirit = 946 = T(43), i.e. the 43rd Triangular Number, and the divine Name Elohim = 86 = 2 x 43, and Exceeding Joy (Geel = 43), the gift of the Holy Spirit. All of this is encoded in the Unity Holograph (Shema).

Factors: 9 x 89

Related Numbers: 623

In the Greek G0480, and a Gematria 447. It is describing something that is "anti", the adversary, be contrary, oppose, to be set against, opposite to, to oppose, be adverse to, withstand. All this is easy to determine, it's the Antichrist, one of his titles is the adversary in the Bible, this is what it says:

αντικειμαι antikeimai {an-tik'-i-mahee} from 473 and 2749; TDNT - 3:655,425; v AV - adversary 5, be contrary 2, oppose 1; 8 1) to be set over against, opposite to 2) to oppose, be adverse to, withstand
Gematria: 447

All Verses containing Greek Strong's Number G0480
Book Verses
Luk 13:17, 21:15
1Co 16:9
Gal 5:17
Phi 1:28
2Th 2:4
1Ti 1:10, 5:14
8 Verses Found in 6 Books.

Hey Look at the Gematria for 447, "God has come"!
'Eliy'athah {el-ee-aw-thaw'} or (contraction) אליתה 'Eliyathah {el-ee-yaw-thaw'} from 0410 and 0225;; n pr m AV - Eliathah 2; 2 Eliathah = "God has come" 1) a Hemanite musician in David's court Gematria: 447

Considering all of the above, I am looking forward to seeing all of you in Heaven very soon!
Oh yea, I had a Rapture practice drill last night, I had 2 knocks. Thank you Brenda, God has used you to bring all of this to light. God bless everyone, I love you, can't wait to meet all of you in Heaven!

Your Brother In Christ - Soon to Be in Heaven!
Bruce Turner

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False prophet Brenda Robinson thinks the annual meteor showers is a sign the rapture will take place this month.

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false prophet Brenda Robinson is a real wacko. she thinks because the earth will pass through meteor debris (as it does every year - The Geminid Meteor Showers) is is a sign the rapture will happen this month. she also thinks a guy who apparently was at the north pole (or very close to it) taking a picture of a full moon at noon (when it is dark where he is at in the north) is a sign of the rapture too.

This false prophet cannot think for herself, has absolutely no discernment, and can easily be pursuaded by any false prophet that throws some numbers at her.

NOTE: False prophets creep into the house through television and the internet.

2Timothey 3
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

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Brenda Robinson (5 Dec 2009)
"OH MY GOSH! OH MY GOSH! OH MY GOLLY GOSH! COMET DEBRIS DUE HERE DEC 13TH! Rev 12:4(?)"

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/nov2009/brendar1124-2.htm

Revelation 12:1

A great and wondrous sign appeared in heaven: a woman

clothed with the sun with the moon under her feet and a crown

of twelve stars on her head.

Doves have pointed out before that this verse deals with the zodiak.

12:2 She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to

give birth.

12:3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red

dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his

heads.

12:4 HIS TAIL SWEPT A THIRD OF THE S-T-A-R-S out of the

sky and flung them to the earth. After searching I discovered:

The [dragon] tail is a comet with dirt - and rock - and gas

following it (Dragon Tail). The dirt and rock and

gas are the "stars" that are flung to the earth.

I believe this may be THE connection to the dreams - visions

- Dove posts made about the 3 comets - satellites - missiles that

people are seeing hitting the earth. I posted several dreams

(that others received) about the 3 comets-missiles-satellites on

Doves. One of the dreamers stated this was the "first event" that

would start (I understood her to mean the start of the tribulation

of the saints here on earth.)

This event (the stars being flung to the earth) appears to

happen in conjunction (same time) with the manchild being

caught up into heaven (rapture) and the woman running to

the wilderness.

When I posted the dreams I mentioned that it was interesting

that some noted they were raptured as this event occurred -

others stated that they were not harmed because they had

already left the area (for the wilderness?).

Very interesting stuff.

So the "stars" in Revelation 12:4 deal with a comet and do NOT

relate to angels in this verse. The angels being hurled to earth

with satan shows up in verse 9.

http://www.unleavenedbreadministries.org/?page=earthasteroid

Spaceweather.com (December 4, 2009)


Spaceweather.com

GEMINID METEOR SHOWER: Mark your calendar. The

Geminid meteor shower peaks on DEC 13th and 14th WHEN

EARTH PASSES THROUGH A STREAM OF DEBRIS
FROM EXTINCT COMET 3200 Phaethon. The Geminids

have been intensifying in recent years, and 2009 could be the

best year yet. [It will be it we are jetted out of here in the

rapture soon after this!!] Forecasters expect 140+ meteors per hour

under the dark skies of a new moon.


FULL MOON AT NOON: Full moons are opposite the sun.

That’s why you can see a full moon at midnight, but never at

noon. It’s an unbreakable rule. On Dec 2nd, Brian Whittaker

broke the rule. “I photographed the full moon in the middle of

the day!”

“It was lunchtime and the sun popped up in the south for its

brief daily appearance,” he says. “I looked due north, over the

North Pole and there was the Moon hanging over Japan – a

full moon at noon.!”

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false prophet Brenda Robinson - numerologist / diviner of the future

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Not only is Brenda Robinson a false prophet, a diviner of the future and a numerologist which goes against what God instructs for His people, she is also a narcissist that thinks the day of her birthday is going to be the rapture day just because it is her birthday and "isn't it just like God to do something wonderfuil like that for her" - I guess she thinks she is special and nobody else is.

One thing I do know for sure - if God wants to reveal something to you, He will do it clearly and you will KNOW what he is telling you. He will NEvER use numbers and make you guess what they mean. In fact, God has forbidden such practices for His followers - He calls it an ABOMINATION to Him.

Deuteronomy 18
10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,
11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.

divination
–noun
1. the practice of attempting to foretell future events or discover hidden knowledge by occult or supernatural means.
2. augury; prophecy: The divination of the high priest was fulfilled.
3. perception by intuition; instinctive foresight.

Occult–adjective
1. of or pertaining to magic, astrology, or any system claiming use or knowledge of secret or supernatural powers or agencies.
2. beyond the range of ordinary knowledge or understanding; mysterious.
3. secret; disclosed or communicated only to the initiated.

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Brenda Robinson (5 Dec 2009)
"Dec 18, 2009 - Re: Joseph Blackmon's post - my wild thoughts"

Joseph - please understand when Doves get into numbers, I am numb! I
just can't perceive anything in the way of numbers. (But I SO wish I
could!)

Your post today, however, has blown me away.

First thought:

THE FIRST BUSINESS DAY AFTER THIS CONFERENCE IS:

“12-21-09” = “12-21-12” REALLY; THIS IS THE EXACT DAY

“PRINCE WILLIAM ARTHUR” TURNS “27.5” YEARS OLD

EXACTLY. REMEMBER “27.5°” IN THE PRECESSION OF

THE EQUINOXES = “1980” YEARS & “1980 + 6660” = “8640”

(1/3 OF THE STARS OR CONSTELLATION IN THE HEAVENS).

“6660” = HEIGHT OF WASHINGTON MONUMENT, THE

PHALLUS TO BRING FORTH THE “NEW WORLD ORDER”.

"8640 = 1/3 of the stars or constellation in the heavens"

Anything to do with Revelation 12:4 His (satan's) tail swept a

third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth?


This event (Rev 12:4) happens right before the manchild is snatched away!

What does this mean (if anything) to you?

(I had said earlier I thought this was the missiles people were

seeing in their dreams - the "dragon tail" which was described

in Wikipedia as the dust/debris that follows the dragon [a comet].)

[Final afterthought - just a wild thought - do you think those

3 missiles could have anything to do with Rev 13:2:

The beast I saw resembled a leopard (1st missile/bomb), but

had feet like those of a bear (2d missile/bomb) and a mouth like

that of a lion (3d missile/bomb)??]

Thought 2:

If I read your post correctly it appears that Dec 18th may be a

rapture date?

December 18th - is my birthday. The Lord has been revealing

lots about me to me. Here is a small portion:

I am the third (female) child of my mother.

My mother was the third (female) child of her mother.

I believe that my grandmother was the third (female) child of

her mother.

3 + 3 + 3 = 9

The gematria of my name is "9"00

My birthday - December 18th:

18 = 1 + 8 = 9

12 = 2 + 1 = 3

9 + 3 = 12 (a number divisible by 3)

12 (December) = 18 (day) = 30 - another number divisible by 3

I understand 3 means complete

I understand 9 means finality - judgment

There are other revelations that I believe He has given me

about myself: I have been created to be a witness of the finality

(final) (complete) of days and to tell the world of the judgment

that's coming.

Is the 18th the day of our disappearing? This is 7 days before

Christmas.
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False prophet Paul N. F. received a letter from ba-al (AKA: tammuz - the "sun god")

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False prophet Paul N. F. received a letter from tammuz (who is calling itself "jesus" to deceive) begging "his followers" to celebrate his birthday on december 25th. Anyone who obeys God will NEVER celebrate the birth of the sun "god" (tammuz / ba-al / mithra) and call it worship of God - wen Aaron made a golden calf and said they would worship God the next day, God almost destroyed ancient Israel then and there - if it had not been for Moses' intercession, He would have. God sent Ezekiel to tell Ancient Israel to stop using paganismto worship Him and the priests told Ezekiel "go away Ezekiel, we will worship God OUR way" (scripture posted on my response on the first letter from a demon called "jesus" http://falseprophetwatch.blogspot.com/2009/12/false-prophet-dawn-dominick-letter-from.html )

Jesus - the REAL Jesus - was NEVER in christmas - do the research yourself and you will see x-mas (x stands for taammuz and his "hot crossed buns") is 100% pagan and constsntine "christianized" it so the pagans and the luke warm "christians" (Christians in name only) could worship together and worship the same demon sun "god" together under different names.

Here are a few links to get you started on your own research of the origin of christmas:

http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/Christmas_TheRealStory.htm

http://www.lasttrumpetministries.org/tracts/tract3.html

http://www.hope-of-israel.org/christ~3.htm

http://www.essortment.com/all/christmaspagan_rece.htm

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Paul N. F. (3 Dec 2009)
"A LETTER FROM JESUS"


I received a very wonderful letter from a good friend of mine this morning. This may be the
year that we will be invited soon and celebrate His birthday with Him. PTL!!!
Yours in Christ,
Paul N.F.

P.S. Forvever.
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Dear loved ones,
As you well know, we are getting closer to my birthday. Every year there is a celebration in my honor and I think that this year the celebration will be repeated. During this time there are many people shopping for gifts, there are many radio announcements, TV commercials, and in every part of the world everyone is talking that my birthday is getting closer and closer.

It is really very nice to know, that at least once a year, some people think of me. As you know, the celebration of my birthday began many years ago.. At first people seemed to understand and be thankful of all that I did for them, but in these times, no one seems to know the reason for the celebration. Family and friends get together and have a lot of fun, but they don't know the meaning of the celebration.

Remember that last year, there was a great feast in my honor. The dinner table was full of delicious foods, pastries, fruits, assorted nuts and chocolates. The decorations were exquisite and there were many, many beautifully wrapped gifts. But, do you want to know something? I wasn't invited. I was the guest of honor and they didn't remember to send me an invitation. The party was for me, but when that great day came, I was left outside, they closed the door in my face .... and I wanted to be with them and share their table.

In truth, that didn't surprise me because in the last few years, all close their doors to me. Since I wasn't invited, I decided to enter the party without making any noise. I went in and stood in a corner. They were all drinking; there were some who were drunk and telling jokes and laughing at everything. They were having a grand time. To top it all, this big fat man all dressed in red wearing a long white beard entered the room yelling Ho-Ho-Ho! He seemed drunk. He sat on the sofa and all the children ran to him, saying: "Santa Claus, Santa Claus" .. as if the party were in his honor!

At 12 Midnight all the people began to hug each other; I extended my arms waiting for someone to hug me and ... do you know ... no one hugged me. Suddenly they all began to share gifts. They opened them one by one with great expectation. When all had been opened, I looked to see if, maybe, there was one for me.

What would you feel if on your birthday everybody shared gifts and you did not get one? I then understood that I was unwanted at that party and so quietly left.

Every year it gets worse. People only remember to eat and drink, the gifts, the parties and nobody remembers me. I would like this Christmas that you allow me to enter into your life. I would like that you recognize the fact that almost two thousand years ago I came to this world to give my life for you, on the cross, to save you. Today, I only want that you to believe this with all your heart.

I want to share something with you. As many didn't invite me to their party, I will have my own celebration, a grandiose party that no one has ever imagined, a spectacular party.

I'm still making the final arrangements. Today I am sending out many invitations and there is an invitation for you. I want to know if you wish to attend and I will make a reservation for you and write your name with golden letters in my great guest book. Only those on the guest list will be invited to the party. Those who don't answer the invite, will be left outside.

Be prepared because when all is ready you will be part of my great party.

See you soon.
I Love you!
Jesus

P.S.
Please share this message with your loved ones, before Christmas.

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False prophet "Bjr" Ignores history to support his false prophecies

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False prophet "Bjr" claims there was never a covenant for the antichrist to confirm until the eu recently wrote up a plan to divide Jerusalem. For one thing, a plan is not a covenant 0- it is a draft that has no agreement to it.

The oslo accords was a covenant that may soon be ressurected (by it's author ?) making it stronger. oslo s a covenant between the palestinians and Israel. The author of it meets all descriptions of the antichrist in scripture as well as being a noted peace maker and the president of the club of rome (the only forseeable way for someone known as "the assyrian" to also be a prince of the roman empire) Of course this is jordanian prince el hassan bin talal

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Bjr (2 Dec 2009)
"the antichrist now has a "covenant" to confirm"

Doves-

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week....
To confirm (to make strong or strengthen) implies that something has already
been in the works. Until the EU drafted up the dividing of Jerusalem http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1131988.html , an
antichrist had nothing to confirm. So a possible scenario: 1- "Peace and
security" has been uttered again and again. 2- Then sudden
destruction/rapture(soon). The sudden destruction will probably have something
to do with the Israel/Palestine problem. 3- After the world has just witnessed
the bride of Christ taken up to the clouds, the world will come together in
peace. 4- Antichrist takes the EU draft and confirms it with the two sides.
Dividing the temple just as Ezekiel described. Although antichrist divides
Jerusalem, he allows the building of their third temple. Dividing the temple
mount just as Ezekiel described. Israel thinks antichrist is their messiah
because he had them build their third temple, not to mention they are expecting
their messiah
any time now. So the bride could be gone soon, maybe this spring(pentecost).
When the dust settles, the confirming of the covenant could be in fall of 2010
at the Jewish new year to fit the 70Th week of Daniel. Just a speculation,
we'll see!
Bjr

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False prophet Rowina (Mariel) praises false prophet Dawn Dominick's - 'letter from a demon named "jesus" '

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Yesterday false prophet Dawn Dominick posted a letter she claims is from Jesus when it is actuallt by a demonic impersonator that calls itself "jesus" to deceive. I posted about it here:
http://falseprophetwatch.blogspot.com/2009/12/false-prophet-dawn-dominick-letter-from.html

Today false prophet "rowina" (Mariel) is praising the demonic letter and also claims it is "not wrong to celebrate his birth any day" even though God calls mixture of paganism with worship of Him an ABOMINATION and alost wiped out Ancient Israel several times because of it(scripture given in response to the original letter by Dawn Dominick)

If God wanted us to celebrate Messiah Yeshua's birthday, He would have given us the date and told us how to celebrate it. It is clear from scripture He is not pleased when people take pagan festivals and call it worship of Him.

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Rowina (2 Dec 2009)
"Dawn's Letter from Jesus is super"

Yes it does sound like a message straight from the Lord, about how we should celebrate Christmas.

And I agree with the Lord (lol). It is not wrong to celebrate His birth ANY day! Just so long as our celebration includes love and caring for the lost, the hungry, the widow, the orphan, and all of the poor whom He said were blessed.

And a nice word to the store clerks when you buy your presents is a top-notch Jesus-inspired idea. Spread the love even in small ways!

I gave small donations to three charities who feed the poor at Christmas, as Jesus advised in His letter. Even those these donations are small, they will add up if others do the same!

Thank you for your letter, Jesus! Don't stay away!

Mariel
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False prophet Ray Schulz - typical false prophet

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False prophet Ray Schultz claims the seven year tribulation is only mentioned in the book of Daniel. he is clearly strongly implying that means we do not have to believe the tribulation is seven years long.

Messiah Yeshua (Jesus) quotes the prophet Daniel and calls him a prophet. Messiah Yeshua confirms what the prophet Daniel said and places it at the end of the age - not a few years later (as false prophet Ray Schultz claims):

Matthew 24
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

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Ray Schulz (30 Nov 2009)
"What did Isaac Newton believe about Daniel 9:24-27?"

To the Five Doves,

What Did Isaac Newton Believe About Daniel 9:24-27?

Sir Isaac Newton (1642-1727), the renowned English physicist, mathematician, astronomer, and theologian is probably most remembered for his work in universal gravitation and the three laws of motion. He was also profoundly interested in understanding Bible prophecy, particularly Daniel's prophecies. Consider Daniel 9:25,

Daniel 9:25. Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

In Daniel a week represents 7 years. The 7 weeks and 62 weeks are traditionally added together to get 69 weeks. This is one week short of the full 70-week decree of Daniel 9:24, so it has long been assumed that the leftover week will be the tribulation. Yes, the doctrine of a 7-year tribulation hangs by a thread on this assumption! There is no other verse in the Bible to support the notion of a 7-year tribulation.

Isaac Newton understood Daniel 9:25-26 in very a different way. Newton took it upon himself to re-translate the original Hebrew, and he adamantly held to the position that the 7 weeks and 62 weeks should not be added together. Quoting Newton,

"We avoid also the doing violence to the language of Daniel, by taking the seven weeks and sixty two weeks for one number. Had that been Daniel's meaning, he would have said sixty and nine weeks, and not seven weeks and sixty two weeks, a way of numbring used by no nation."

Instead, Newton saw the 62 weeks to be the time leading up to the Advent of Christ, and the 7 weeks to be the time leading up to the second coming of Christ. In other words, he was convinced that this verse prophecies both the first and second coming of Christ. Notice that the time leading up to the second coming of Christ, the tribulation, becomes 49 years instead of the customary 7!

In another twist, Newton viewed the six objectives of God's decree listed in Daniel 9:24 as having been completely accomplished by Jesus Christ on the cross, which conflicts with the customary interpretation that assumes at least some of these objectives will remain unfinished until the end times:

Daniel 9:24. Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

Newton's interpretation of Daniel 9:27 also contains some fascinating surprises for us, and his understanding once again runs counter to the customary interpretation:

Daniel 9:27. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

He saw Daniel 9:27 as a prophecy of events that had all been fulfilled in the first century AD, in the days following the Crucifixion up to the Roman destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. Newton believed all three instances of the word "he" in Daniel 9:27 refer to Jesus Christ, not to a coming Roman prince. The "covenant" Christ confirmed was the Old Covenant, the Law of Moses. That is, Christ did not set aside the Old Covenant until one week (7 years) after the Crucifixion, presumably to allow time for the Jews to respond to their Messiah. The event that terminated this week, according to Newton, was the conversion of Cornelius, the first Gentile to receive Jesus Christ (Acts 10:1-45). Newton's interpretation of Daniel 9:27 has nothing whatsoever to do with confirming a peace treaty, a Roman Antichrist or a 7-year tribulation. It only concerns events that happened between the Crucifixion and the 70 AD destruction of Jerusalem.

I have attempted to keep this posting as brief as possible, which meant that several supporting details have simply been left out. I recommend two links that contain more complete accounts of this topic:

Isaac Newton, Observations upon the Prophecies of Daniel, and the Apocalypse of St. John, Part I, Chapter X: Of the Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks, London, 1733: The Newton Project - University of Sussex, East Sussex.

http://www.isaacnewton.ca/daniel_apocalypse/pt1ch10.html

Ray Schulz, Whatever Happened To The 7-year Tribulation?

http://ourpropheticbible.org/downloads/PRELUDE.pdf

Ray Schulz

Look Up! Ministries

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False prophet Mary Adams worships idols, hopes others will "adore them"

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God made it clear we are to not have idols or use idols to worship Him - so why do so many so-called "christians" use idols of tammuz during x-mas celebrations (x stands for tammuz (AKA ba-al) - his birthday is on december 25th and uses a log in a fire followed by a decorated tree in celebration of him)

False prophet Mary Adams celebrates tammuz' birthday by using idols. She also hopes people will stop and "adore" (worship) her idols.

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Mary Adams (30 Nov 2009)
"Christmas"

Anticipating Christmas, this last October I purchased a nativity scene to set up at the end of my driveway. Mary and Joseph, the manager, and a simple star. I wanted to add the shepherds and the wise men, but they cost extra, so I didn't include them. Just a simple little crèche, surround by some hay bales my farmer- friend Shane brought me to keep the wind from toppling it all over. It will also have some music playing carols. My hope is that someone will come by simply to adore Him, or some child might be curious enough to ask their parents about the baby in a manger and that their parents will know what it represents.

Will some object? I am sure there are those who will. I've read where some have urinated on His picture--- for sure many will use His name in vain and blaspheme it. That it is so offensive to some that they are willing to do away with the word "Christ" altogether and just revel in tensile and sleigh bells. But I will take comfort in this: I know for sure there will be lots of animals and birds that will be coming to my little scene!

The Bible says, "let everyone that hath breath praise Him!" I will watch in glee to see the moose arrive and the redpolls visit the birdfeeders I will have around---but not just for the goodies I will leave for them to eat, but because I am reminded of an incident I had in India several years ago when I was visiting Rameswaram, a large city at the tip of that continent. They were having a huge Hindu festival while we were there, but we had gone ahead and had a little service on the beach with some Christians. However, the loud noise and reveling was overpowering us, so we left and drove back to where was an Indian Government guest house. It had no air conditioning, no television, nothing but two beds. My travel companion, a Chinese lady named Melanie and I put our bags down, and suddenly the lights went out. We were right on the beach facing south, nothing between where we were and Antarctica. Completely in the dark, we decided to sit out on a little veranda and look up to find the Southern Cross. It was a very beautiful sight. Then we got out the praise tape "God With Us" and were absolutely enthralled, it was all so awesome a moment.

Suddenly, a pack of dogs arrived and all of them sat down just below the ledge where we sat. They acted as if they were enjoying it too. I said to Melanie, "Look at that! Those dogs are Hindu dogs...they never hear music like this! I think they are actually enjoying the worship! Let's turn it off and see what happens." She did, and the dogs got up and left! Then we turned it back on, and they came again, lying down below us. We tried it once more...and every time we did, the dogs would get up and leave when the praise music ended, and return when it began again. Even the dogs were attracted and drawn to the worship of the Lord that night!

Another time an Indian preacher told me what happened to him. Before He found Christ, he used to argue and be mad when his Christian wife tried to convert him. But being a devout Hindu, he insisted on worshipping his Hindu gods. One day there was a festival and he got out his idol and cleaned it and put it outside his door to dry off. His little son was standing nearby, and they were both looking at the idol. Suddenly, a dog walked by, lifted its leg, and urinated on the idol. Infuritated, he cursed and swore at the dog. His litte son said, "Daddy, the idol had no eyes to see the dog coming, nor hear it approaching, and could not tell the dog to go away." "I was so mad, I threw myself on the floor and exclaimed; "If you, Jesus, are the only god, then come to me now or I will go and throw myself on the railroad tracks and end my life!" "All of a sudden, I lost consciousness and had a vision of the Lord. He came and manifested himself to me as the only true God."

Ten thousand debates may not bring men to their knees...but He can. And for sure, one day everyone will,

And soon...

MARY E. ADAMS
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If you remember your dream, that is proof it is from God ???

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False prophet Taylor W claims since he remembered a dream, it is proof it is from God ??? and that the dreams he doesn't remember are not from God (how does he know he dreamed if he can't remember them???)

This guy is ripe for satanic delusions.

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Taylor W (30 Nov 2008)
"Another dream of judgement."

Hello Doves. I had a dream last night that I believe was from God regarding the coming judgment on this country. I don't remember all the details, but I was sitting outside when I noticed a small meteor fell from the sky and landed near me. Like I said, it was very small, but when it landed it exploded like a hand grenade. I remember thinking "that was close" when I looked up and saw what appeared to be a star flying across the sky. In my dream, I knew it was a meteor, but this time, when it landed, it exploded like a nuclear warhead! It looked just like the footage I've seen of nuclear detonations from military stock films. The explosion looked to be about 15 or 20 miles away, and I was bracing for the shockwave, but it never came. The next thing I knew, I was trying desperately to reach my family, who lives in the direction of where the explosion was, but I was unable. I woke up terrified.
If anyone is good at dream interpretation, I'd love some insight. I rarely get dreams like this, but when I do, they're very intense. I know this was from God, because most of my other dreams are completely forgotten within an hour or so, even the unpleasant ones.
Thanks!
YBIC,
Taylor W.

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False prophet Dawn Dominick - 'letter from a demon named "jesus" '

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False prophet Dawn Dominick has posted a letter she claims "cold have been written" by "Jesus" - it is entirely unbiblical and is nothing Messiah Yeshua would have written to His followers. x-mas is a pagan celebration that celebrates ba-al (AKA tammuz / mithra / the "sun god")

This demon called "jesus" claims it is okay to celebrate pagan festivals and call it worship of God. When Ancient Israel did this, God called it an abomination and sent His prophets to tell them to stop it.

This demon also claims it is perfectly acceptable to him to use idols and call it worship of God. when Aaron made a golden calf and said they would worship God the next day, God nearly destroyed them.

The demon impersonator also says to stop shopping on sunday - the day of worship of the pagan sun "god". The Sabbath God commanded us to keep s from sundown friday to sundown saturday. satan wants his followers to keep the sun- "god" sabbath of the pagans to mock God.

Exodus 32
1 And when the people saw that Moses delayed to come down out of the mount, the people gathered themselves together unto Aaron, and said unto him, Up, make us gods, which shall go before us; for as for this Moses, the man that brought us up out of the land of Egypt, we wot not what is become of him.
2 And Aaron said unto them, Break off the golden earrings, which are in the ears of your wives, of your sons, and of your daughters, and bring them unto me.
3 And all the people brake off the golden earrings which were in their ears, and brought them unto Aaron.
4 And he received them at their hand, and fashioned it with a graving tool, after he had made it a molten calf: and they said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.
5 And when Aaron saw it, he built an altar before it; and Aaron made proclamation, and said, To morrow is a feast to the LORD.
6 And they rose up early on the morrow, and offered burnt offerings, and brought peace offerings; and the people sat down to eat and to drink, and rose up to play.
7 And the LORD said unto Moses, Go, get thee down; for thy people, which thou broughtest out of the land of Egypt, have corrupted themselves:
8 They have turned aside quickly out of the way which I commanded them: they have made them a molten calf, and have worshipped it, and have sacrificed thereunto, and said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which have brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.
9 And the LORD said unto Moses, I have seen this people, and, behold, it is a stiffnecked people:
10 Now therefore let me alone, that my wrath may wax hot against them, and that I may consume them: and I will make of thee a great nation.
11 And Moses besought the LORD his God, and said, LORD, why doth thy wrath wax hot against thy people, which thou hast brought forth out of the land of Egypt with great power, and with a mighty hand?

Ezekiel 8
13 He said also unto me, Turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations that they do.
14 Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD'S house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz.
15 Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these.
16 And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD'S house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.
17 Then he said unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? Is it a light thing to the house of Judah that they commit the abominations which they commit here? for they have filled the land with violence, and have returned to provoke me to anger: and, lo, they put the branch to their nose.

Isaiah 56
1 Thus saith the LORD, Keep ye judgment, and do justice: for my salvation is near to come, and my righteousness to be revealed.
2 Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil.
3 Neither let the son of the stranger, that hath joined himself to the LORD, speak, saying, The LORD hath utterly separated me from his people: neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry tree.
4 For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant;
5 Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.
6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;
7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.

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Dawn Dominick (30 Nov 2009)
"Letter from Jesus"

Hello Doves,

In this season of (sometimes) craziness, I thought this was a good reminder of what is important. I am assuming that a human being wrote it, since it was sent to me via e-mail, but I believe that our Lord could've actually been the Author of it--He was certainly the inspiration! :-)

Love,
YSIC Dawn

Letter from Jesus about Christmas…..

It has come to my attention that many of you are upset because some folks are taking My name out of the season. Maybe you've forgotten that I wasn't actually born during this time of the year and that it was some of your predecessors who decided to celebrate My birthday on what was actually a time of pagan festival. However, I do appreciate being remembered anytime.

How I personally feel about this celebration can probably be most easily understood by those of you who have been blessed with children of your own. I don't care what you call the day. If you want to celebrate My birth, just GET ALONG AND LOVE ONE ANOTHER.

Now, having said that, let Me go on. If it bothers you that the town in which you live doesn't allow a scene depicting My birth, then just get rid of a couple of Santas and snowmen and put in a small Nativity scene on your own front lawn. If all My followers did that there wouldn't be any need for such a scene on the town square because there would be many of them all around town.

Stop worrying about the fact that people are calling the tree a holiday tree, instead of a Christmas tree. It was I who made all trees. You can remember Me anytime you see any tree. Decorate a grape vine if you wish; I actually spoke of that one in a teaching, explaining who I am in relation to you and what each of our tasks were. If you have forgotten that one, look up John 15: 1 - 8.

If you want to give Me a present in remembrance of My birth
here is my wish list. Choose something from it:

1. Instead of writing protest letters objecting to the way My birthday is being celebrated, write letters of love and hope to soldiers away from home. They are terribly afraid and lonely this time of year. I know, they tell Me all the time.

2. Visit someone in a nursing home. You don't have to know them personally. They just need to know that someone cares about them.

3. Instead of writing to the President complaining about the wording on the cards his staff sent out this year, why don't you write and tell him that you'll be praying for him and his family this year. Then follow up.
It will be nice hearing from you again.

4. Instead of giving your children a lot of gifts you can't afford and they don't need, spend time with them. Tell them the story of My birth, and why I came to live with you down here.
Hold them in your arms and remind them that I love them.

5 Pick someone that has hurt you in the past and forgive him or her.

6. Did you know that someone in your town will attempt to take their own life this season because they feel so alone and hopeless? Since you don't know who that person is, try giving everyone you meet a warm smile; it could make the difference.

7. Instead of nit picking about what the retailer in your town calls the holiday, be patient with the people who work there. Give them a warm smile and a kind word. Even if they aren't allowed to wish you a "Merry Christmas" that doesn't keep you from wishing them one. Then stop shopping there on Sunday. If the store didn't make so much money on that day they'd close and let their employees spend the day at home with their families

8. If you really want to make a difference, support a missionary-- especially one who takes My love and Good News to those who have never heard My name.

9. Here's a good one. There are individuals and whole families in your town who not only will have no "Christmas" tree, but neither will they have any presents to give or receive. If you don't know them, buy some food and a few gifts and give them to the Salvation Army or some other charity which believes in Me and they will make the delivery for you.

10. Finally, if you want to make a statement about your belief in and loyalty to Me, then behave like a Christian. Don't do things in secret that you wouldn't do in My presence. Let people know by your actions that you are one of mine.

Don't forget; I am God and can take care of Myself. Just love Me and do what I have told you to do. I'll take care of all the rest. Check out the list above and get to work; time is short. I'll help you, but the ball is now in your court. Do have a most blessed Christmas with all those whom you love and remember ...

I LOVE YOU,
JESUS

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False prophet Brenda Robinson - speaks before thinking (must be blond! )

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False prophet Brenda Robinson is now back peddling on her false teachings of yesterday in that she said the eu was the one "wounded by the sword yet lived" she is now claiming it is one of the areas of the eu - going along with the false popular doctrine that the eu is the revised roman empire spoken of in scripture (what about the club of rome and the president of the club of rome? )

2 Timothy 3
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

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Brenda Robinson (28 Nov 2009)
"Rev 13 - Fatal wound that was healed"

I posted a verse by verse rundown of what I believed Rev 13 was saying.
Rev 13:14 - He ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived.

(This verse is bouncing off of Rev 13:3 - ONE OF THE HEADS of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed.)

In my exuberance I stated that it was the EU that had been healed - the old Holy Roman Empire disappearing and coming back in the form of the new EU.

I have reread everything again (and again, etc.). Only ONE of the 10 heads (the EU now has 27) seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. SO the fatal wound only happened to ONE of the heads of the beast.

How do we get from 27 member nations of the EU to only ten horns (and seven heads). I have heard that the EU intends to divide the entire world into 10 sections. Apparently one of these sections has had a fatal wound that is healed. (The country of the Vatican?)

The fatal wound is not speaking of an individual (unless one of the 10 sections is given to one individual).
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Now it's official: new false doctrine is that obama == matreiya

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The false prophets have created a brand new false doctrine: obama is matreiya. The false doctrine started when someone posted tat obama met matreiya in 1988 - so "logically" 9to the falseprophets) it meas obama is matriya. Don't ask me to explain how they came to this conclusion - I have absolutely no idea how the false prophets come up with the bizarre stuff that they do. They must be demon possessed because clear thinking people would never come up with the stuff they come up with. False prophet Brenda Robinson is one such demon possessed falsed prophet.

Zechariah 11:17 "Woe to the worthless shepherd who abandons the sheep! May a sword strike his arm and his right eye. May his arm be completely withered and his right eye totally blinded."

Revelation 13:3 One of the heads of the beast appeared to have received a fatal wound, but its fatal wound was healed, and the whole earth followed after the beast in amazement.

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Brenda Robinson (27 Nov 2009)
"More on Revelation 13 - pieces fitting together"

Man - Rev 13 is coming alive to me! I believe the pieces are coming together and
everyone has had a part in this.

The first beast is the EU. The dragon (satan) gives the EU his power and
throne. The beast (in verse 5) that is uttering proud words is the EU - and
exercises authority for 42 months. The EU (WHO?) makes war against
the saints and is given authority over every tribe.

Here comes the false prophet - who I now believe is Maitreya/Satan/Obama
mix. Verse 11: He had two horns like a lamb, but HE SPOKE LIKE A
DRAGON. He exercised all authority of the first beast (the EU) and made
the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast ...

Key:

He ordered them to set up an image in honor OF THE BEAST who WAS
WOUNDED BY THE SWORD AND YET LIVED.

The beast who was wounded is THE EU - the same empire that disappeared
and has come back alive!

The image in honor of the beast is an image of the EU!

Deborah - I owe you a BIG apology. You indicated a long time ago that the
"666 scripture" referred to the second beast - the false prophet. I came back
and said that I thought it referred to the first beast.

Deborah - you were right all along.

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A prophecy for x-mas day

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Never heard of this person before. We will know in a month if he is yet another false prophet or not. I expect that he is since confirmed false prophets are touting him, because he quotes the favorite verse of the false prophets (Amo 3:7 Adonai, God, does nothing without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets. ), and because when you really hear from God, there is no doubt about it as there usually is when a false prophet gives a "prophecy from God". I'm posting this prophecy so I will have doccumentation if the prophecy turns out to be false and what was in it since when a false prophet is proven wrong, they never repent - they just change what they claim they prophecied.

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Steve Coerper (26 Nov 2009)
"Disaster Is Coming To America"

Raleigh, North-Carolina
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Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 2:16 PM
Subject: GET OUT OF CALIFORNIA NOW!!! LEAVE BEFORE THE QUAKE!!! (2 Prophetic Words)

Disaster Is Coming To America John S Lawler

Columbus Ohio USA 10-25-09

With much sadness of heart I share this message with all who will listen. During my quite time with the Lord this evening he began to speak to me about the sinfulness of this nation ( America ) and how grieved he was because of it. He went into great detail about the sin being done in this nation and how it has become a stench in his nostrils. He then began to speak and said these words to me. “I am bringing a disaster upon this land on Christmas day that will shake this nation to its very foundation”. He told me the same thing on 10-21-09 and so that is why I am posting this today at this time. I really believe this came from the Lord and that we all need to examine ourselves to make sure we are in right standing with him at this time. I believe he is trying to warn us to get right with him and that our time for this to happen is getting shorter all the time.

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the Lord, do all these things.

Amos 3:6,7,8 When a trumpet sounds in a city, do not the people tremble? When disaster comes to a city, has not the Lord caused it? Surely the Sovereign Lord does nothing without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets. The lion has roared-- who will not fear? The Sovereign Lord has spoken-- who can but prophesy?

I want everyone who reads this message to know that God is a good, good God and that he loves us very much but he will only put up with sin for so long before he judges it for what it is. I hope and pray that we all repent, get right with him and start listening to what he is telling us and begin to obey his word so that he can bless us instead of curse us as he said in his word that he would do.

Jeremiah 18:7,8 If at any time I announce that a nation or kingdom is to be uprooted, torn down and destroyed, and if that nation I warned repents of its evil, then I will relent and not inflict on it the disaster I had planned.

You can share this message with anyone as long as you keep it in its full content. Your comments to this message are also welcome as always.

God bless you,
John S. Lawler Sr.
J_lawler@sbcglobal.net

"See Me with weeping, fasting and a contrite heart. I will save individuals and you shall shine like the stars forever. Repent, oh nations!"

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