I can't believe anyone who thinks certain boats in a boat yard have any significance whatsover to anything. And he thinks a boat having a for sale sign on it and now doesn't is significant enough to post about on the internet (on a site having nothing to do with boats)
Obviously the five demons ("doves") site wants to show how popular it is by posting all this satanic trash (and yet they reject posts from those who say you need to have discernment and that numerology is an abomination to G-d because people may actually wake up and see what a satanic site it really is)
Phil is yet another one of the five fruitcakes.
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Phil (30 Sep 2008) "Amazing Grace update"
John and Doves,
The yacht named "ESCAPEE" disappeared a couple of weeks ago leaving only Amazing Grace and Rapture still there.
A few days ago Amazing Grace had a For Sale sign on her stern. The asking price? Of course it was $5,000 Aussie dollars! Well the figure 5 stands for Grace after all.
Today the sign had been painted over. Is it sold? Has it been taken off the market?
This is all very strange as the original sign looked as though it had been made from 1/2 inch black tape and now this tape has been painted over. A bit of a scrappy way to treat your yacht what?!
In any case Amazing Grace was for sale but now it is not.
Meanwhile the Rapture boat is still there.
Keep tuned.
Blessings,
Phil.
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Exposing false prophets and false prophecies of those who call themselves Christians
Tuesday, September 30, 2008
Trés Bientôt - another wicked interpreter of omens
I can't believe all the license plate false prophets - those who claim when they see certain license plate numbers it actually has a significance.
Once again, G-d calls interpreting omens detestable
VS can also mean Very Stupid
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Trés Bientôt (30 Sep 2008) "Very Soon Very Soon"
Dear John and all the Doves,We have just returned from two weeks holiday and my eyes were drawn to a foreign car number plate VS VS 555.The number plate was so magnified to me I thought VS VS must mean VICTORIOUS SAVIOUR VICTORIOUS SAVIOUR then I realised that I had prayed to the Lord for sign and he revealed it was VERY SOON VERY SOONLooking forward to meeting you all VERY SOON then! Love, from TRES BIENTOT (which means VERY SOON in english).
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Once again, G-d calls interpreting omens detestable
VS can also mean Very Stupid
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/tresb930.htm
Trés Bientôt (30 Sep 2008) "Very Soon Very Soon"
Dear John and all the Doves,We have just returned from two weeks holiday and my eyes were drawn to a foreign car number plate VS VS 555.The number plate was so magnified to me I thought VS VS must mean VICTORIOUS SAVIOUR VICTORIOUS SAVIOUR then I realised that I had prayed to the Lord for sign and he revealed it was VERY SOON VERY SOONLooking forward to meeting you all VERY SOON then! Love, from TRES BIENTOT (which means VERY SOON in english).
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false prophet Nando interprets omens - at odds with false prophet Tony Ellsworth
Nando claims that you round up 777.68 (dow jones closed yesterday) to get 777.7 which is significant - yet Tony Ellsworth claims you need to leave it at 777.68 to tie in the Apollo 8 mission (WHY??? - he never even explains that reasoning)
Both are false prophets and interpret omens - something G-d callse detestable.
Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."
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Nando (30 Sep 2008) "dow down 777.7 points today"
September 29, 2008
Letter 21 (09-29-08) Dow went down 777.68 today
Today at sunset begins the fall Jewish festivals. Rosh Hashanah, the festival of the trumpets or shofars is the next feast to be fulfilled by the plan of the Lord Jesus Christ. It starts today at sunset and ends at nightfall of October the 1st. It is in this period of time (2 days) that many bible prophecy teachers believe that Jesus will take all true Christian believers out of the world in what is referred in English as the rapture or in Spanish as el rapto. This will occur with the believers changed in an instant from mortal bodies to immortal bodies without dying first. After the believers are safe in the clouds with the Lord Jesus the world will go into a period of destruction commonly known as the apocalypse. It is very interesting to point out that the number of the Holy Trinity is 777. The stock market in its way to a collapse closed today 777.68 which is rounded off to 777.7. Coincidence or Divine design?
http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/market/home.aspx
Your servant of Jesus Christ
Nando Twelvebooks.wordpress.com
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Both are false prophets and interpret omens - something G-d callse detestable.
Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."
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Nando (30 Sep 2008) "dow down 777.7 points today"
September 29, 2008
Letter 21 (09-29-08) Dow went down 777.68 today
Today at sunset begins the fall Jewish festivals. Rosh Hashanah, the festival of the trumpets or shofars is the next feast to be fulfilled by the plan of the Lord Jesus Christ. It starts today at sunset and ends at nightfall of October the 1st. It is in this period of time (2 days) that many bible prophecy teachers believe that Jesus will take all true Christian believers out of the world in what is referred in English as the rapture or in Spanish as el rapto. This will occur with the believers changed in an instant from mortal bodies to immortal bodies without dying first. After the believers are safe in the clouds with the Lord Jesus the world will go into a period of destruction commonly known as the apocalypse. It is very interesting to point out that the number of the Holy Trinity is 777. The stock market in its way to a collapse closed today 777.68 which is rounded off to 777.7. Coincidence or Divine design?
http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/market/home.aspx
Your servant of Jesus Christ
Nando Twelvebooks.wordpress.com
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Gordon Smith - listens to predictions by demons - five demons site has no problem posting the false prophecy
Gordon Smith listens to predictions made by demons through their psychic channellers and thinks enough about the demonic prophecy he posts it on the "
christian" (actually satanic in Christian disguise) site five demons ("doves") - the five demons ("doves") site has absolutely no problem posting admitted demon predictions. Just who really believes the five demons ("doves") site is Christian??? Obviously it is a satanic site and either people are in on the deception or they are seriously deceived. The post by Gordon Smith should prove that the five demons site is not a Christian site any way whatsoever.
Is there ANY discernment by those allowed to post there (I think not - otherwise they would not be allowed to post there)
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Gordon Smith (30 Sep 2008) "Alien Abduction!"
Hi Doves Chatting with a friend of mine at work, she said that she heard on amorning radio show, here in South Africa, the DJ announce that had heardthat two psychics on opposite sides of the world one in Australia andone in the States had made a statement to the effect that there wasgoing to be an alien abduction on the 15th October 2008! In JesusGordon SmithSouth Africa
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christian" (actually satanic in Christian disguise) site five demons ("doves") - the five demons ("doves") site has absolutely no problem posting admitted demon predictions. Just who really believes the five demons ("doves") site is Christian??? Obviously it is a satanic site and either people are in on the deception or they are seriously deceived. The post by Gordon Smith should prove that the five demons site is not a Christian site any way whatsoever.
Is there ANY discernment by those allowed to post there (I think not - otherwise they would not be allowed to post there)
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/gordons930.htm
Gordon Smith (30 Sep 2008) "Alien Abduction!"
Hi Doves Chatting with a friend of mine at work, she said that she heard on amorning radio show, here in South Africa, the DJ announce that had heardthat two psychics on opposite sides of the world one in Australia andone in the States had made a statement to the effect that there wasgoing to be an alien abduction on the 15th October 2008! In JesusGordon SmithSouth Africa
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Tony Ellsworth intentionally DECEIVES
One only needs to see what the articles are about to realize Tony Ellsworth is a LIAR and DECEIVER - the article "This is not the end" is about the failed wallstreet bailout while the article "the end is near: u.s. can't stop the doomsday machine" is about the hadron collider in europe and the end of the lawsuit brought in united states courts (in which the judge ruled there was no jurisdiction) Just who is Tony Ellsworth lying to and trying to deceive??? And who is John Tng (owner of the five demons ["doves"] site) trying to deceive by posting this absolute TRASH???
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/tonye930-4.htm
Tony Ellsworth (30 Sep 2008)
"Can it be stopped?"
Interesting conflicting headlines on Fox News website…
· 'This Is Not the End'
Clearly disappointed Bush expresses frustration over $700B bailout plan's failure — insists he's not throwing in the towel
The End Is Near: U.S. Can't Stop 'Doomsday Machine'
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Tony Ellsworth (30 Sep 2008)
"Can it be stopped?"
Interesting conflicting headlines on Fox News website…
· 'This Is Not the End'
Clearly disappointed Bush expresses frustration over $700B bailout plan's failure — insists he's not throwing in the towel
The End Is Near: U.S. Can't Stop 'Doomsday Machine'
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It figures - satanist false prophet Tony Ellsworth promotes satan's "bible wheel" and interprets omens
Sad fact is, most of who post on the five demons ("doves") web site will be left behing at the rapture - and they will not even realize what it was because they will have excuses for it (ie: the unbiblical "false rapture" or some other false explanation for why they were left behind)
It does not surprise me in the least that Tony Ellsworth follows satan's "bible wheel" as well as interprets omens and makes false prophecies (he even thought the earth tilted back and forth to change the seasons and taught it like he was knowledgable of the subject - no apologies or corrections after I emailed the post to him about it - he allows others to go on being deceived by it)
Only a real false prophet fruitcake would tie in the dow dropping 777.68 points with the Apollo 8 mission
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Tony Ellsworth (30 Sep 2008) "777.68"
The Emergency Economic Stabilization Act is rejected by the US House of Representatives, as the Dow Jones stock market index records its largest-ever one-day fall of 777.68 points.
68: 1968 is the year of the faithful mission of Apollo 8
777: http://biblewheel.com/GR/GR_777.asp
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It does not surprise me in the least that Tony Ellsworth follows satan's "bible wheel" as well as interprets omens and makes false prophecies (he even thought the earth tilted back and forth to change the seasons and taught it like he was knowledgable of the subject - no apologies or corrections after I emailed the post to him about it - he allows others to go on being deceived by it)
Only a real false prophet fruitcake would tie in the dow dropping 777.68 points with the Apollo 8 mission
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/tonye930-2.htm
Tony Ellsworth (30 Sep 2008) "777.68"
The Emergency Economic Stabilization Act is rejected by the US House of Representatives, as the Dow Jones stock market index records its largest-ever one-day fall of 777.68 points.
68: 1968 is the year of the faithful mission of Apollo 8
777: http://biblewheel.com/GR/GR_777.asp
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false prophet Deborah follows demonic dreams
First I will quote the relevant part:
Remember that old boyfriend/fiance from college, who was Jewish and both our parents were against the marriage? He was with me in this dream......we were at a Jewish church/synagogue where the scripture reading told the congregation to meet on a mountain for the next Sabbath....and wait there, as there would be more instructions coming.
So everyone did. In my dream, my boyfriend brought a mattress to the location so we could wait in comfort. So we waited and crowds of people dutifully showed up. Finally the rabbi/pastor announced that the LORD WAS COMING FOR US TONIGHT!
Matthew 24
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Messiah Yeshua said we would NOT know the day of his return and we are to KEEP WATCH. People will be going on with every day life - not gathering on mountaintops or celebrating the feasts (two will be grinding - working - one will be taken and the other left and two will be sleeping one taken, one left --- etc.
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Deborah (30 Sep 2008) "Incredibly Spiritual Dream Last Night.....about impending Rapture?"
I have to tell you about a very spiritual dream I had last night!
Each night lately, I ask the Holy Spirit to show me in a dream what I am suppose to do with Job situation? Since nothing is coming through via the normal channels, does God want me to become a missionary or something??// I'm a bit old and too ill for that. Then, Whaaat????
I didn't get a response until last night......and when I awoke from THIS dream I thought "the Rapture MUST BE SOON"!
Remember that old boyfriend/fiance from college, who was Jewish and both our parents were against the marriage? He was with me in this dream......we were at a Jewish church/synagogue where the scripture reading told the congregation to meet on a mountain for the next Sabbath....and wait there, as there would be more instructions coming.
So everyone did. In my dream, my boyfriend brought a mattress to the location so we could wait in comfort. So we waited and crowds of people dutifully showed up. Finally the rabbi/pastor announced that the LORD WAS COMING FOR US TONIGHT! Suddenly many Jews began rejoicing.....they no longer cared if a gentile was among them. Their eyes were opened.....the blindness removed......I could see and the Jews could see THAT WE WERE ALL ONE IN CHRIST......no longer any distinction.....no longer any strife, or prejudice or hatred or fear.....but LOVE, as we were are all worshiping the same God!
Amidst this rejoicing and marveling, an Angel appeared and said "The greater blessing is in sharing this wonderful news with everyone you can!" So I started to. As I went to some nonMessianic Christians to share the good news with them, they said that the Holy Spirit had revealed to all of them through prophetic word THE EXACT SAME MESSAGE!!! They too were rejoicing and waiting with anticipation!
I marveled that God was so ingenious as to orchestrate the same message to His followers all at the same time regardless of whether they are Jewish or Christian, probably all around the world!
The dream ended amidst this incredible rejoicing and happiness, and everyone hugging one another.
When I awoke, instantly I thought "My God, the Rapture MUST BE SOON"!
Maybe this is why no job has come through for me?.....and persecution and trials have been the greatest these past 6 months?......not to mention these past 4 years. I became sick on Oct 8th 2004.....a month after my Dad was murdered and a day after his birthday.......4 years ago.
Anyway, I remember stressing to myself that I must not forget the details of this dream so I can share with others.
Now that I am awake and reflecting on the dream, I'm not sure whether the gathering of Jews was a gathering of Messianic Jews or Orthodox Jews. It doesn't make sense that there would be such excitement about Messianic Jews, because they already have their eyes open and are already "at one" with all other believers and are expecting Christ any day now, as we are.
If it was a gathering of Orthodox Jews, who hadn't believed in Christ until this night, then this would be the night of Christ's 2nd Coming, that would make more sense........but if we believe in the rapture, the Christians shouldn't have been there to be rejoicing and receiving the same message of the Messiah's arrival. Well, now that I think further, undoubtedly there will be some believers that came to faith after the rapture, and if they escaped the martyrdom of the AntiChrist, they would be counting the days until Christ's 2nd Coming to earth.
Another curious thought, is the fact that this old boyfriend from 30 years ago, who was "Jewish" and I was forbidden to marry, and he forbidden to marry me, has suddenly been popping up in my dreams lately......first dreams we were finally married and so happy and in love.....then in dreams like this about the Lord, he is with me as a husband. Jesus is Jewish! And WE are the Bride of Christ! This could be symbolism?
Well anyway.....one thing I noticed is that the believers were told to gather on the mountain to wait for the Lord, on the next Sabbath......since I had this dream last night, Sunday night.....the next Jewish Sabbath is THIS WEEK on Rosh Hashanah!
So maybe the long awaited rapture IS this week???? :)
Maranatha!Deborah* * .(\ *** /).*. * * (\ (_) /) * * . (_/ ll\_) . * . * . /___\ . * * .. *
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Mark Copfer - will stop watching until next year if this year's Rosh Hashanah rapture prophecy fails
Messiah Yeshua said to KEEP WATCH because He will return at a time we THINK NOT. Yet if this Rosh Hashanah's rapture prophecy fails, Mark Copfer will stop watching until next year.
he also does not know if Messiah Yeshua's Beloved it Israel or the gentiles ---- and leaves out the CHURCH (both Jew and gentile believers) ---- Obviously the false prophets would rather read writings by other false prophets instead of their bibles.
(Never mind Israel's days start at sunset and not midnight - that is not important to false prophets like Mark Copfer)
Matthew 24
48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
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Mark Copfer (30 Sep 2008) "8 hours till midnight"
Any time now. As of right now, it is 4:05pm Tuesday in Jerusalem........so just about 8 hours until midnight. The new moon has NOT been sighted as of yet according to the chart at http://www.godthefather.us/NewMoons.html.... They post it once they have spotted it.
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/markc930-3.htm
Mark Copfer (30 Sep 2008) "Re:Rosh hashanah"
You ask, how do we cope with it ??? Well I have been coping for a many years. I look at it like this. I continue to live life on earth as God intended us to enjoy. He has blessed me with a roof, food,clothes, and an awsome family. I will not be one tiny bit disappointed if we are still here after tomorrow. That just means the game on earth is going to get even more exciting, and we are still commanded to watch.And besides, just think of it, if we are still here, that you have all the more time to witness to non believers. With that said, I still believe that the last trump is the rapture.... and I know for a jewish fact that jewish weddings are on Wednesday in Israel. Being Tuesday tomorrow, means its Wednesday in Israel. Will we be going to the wedding tomorrow ??? That would be fantastic, and I look forward to it. If not, well then we just have to wait another year, or another year after that, and so on, and so on. But make no mistake about it, WE, meaning you and me, and the rest of us, WE are the generation that will be alive to see all these things come to pass, and become fulfilled up until the end. That my friend is a biblical fact, according to Israel becoming a nation. There is no way around that. NONE. So weather its this year, or next year, or 5 years from now, we will be the generation that see it come to pass. The key question is, exactly how many years is a "Generation" ??? I believe Psalms 60 tells us it is 60 years.... Psalms 60 parallels Psalms 108 (2008) 5That thy beloved may be delivered; save with thy right hand, and hear me...The only question is, who is thy beloved? Is it Israel ?? or Is it the Gentiles ?
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Sam Orlando - his ego is bigger than his view of G-d
Obviously "HE" (Sam Orlando) can figure out the rapture date - never mind Messiah Yeshua said NOBODY KNOWS the day or the hour and we are to KEEP WATCH because WE DO NOT KNOW when He will return and that He will return AT A TIME WE THINK NOT. Messiah Yeshua would not have said that if there was any way we could figure out the date of His return. He would have said He would give us a warning (a 3 day warning, ten day warning, a 7 year warning --- all which the false prophets claim but is nowhere in the bible) Yet He did not - yet the false prophets from the five demons ("doves") site said there will be a warning --- do you believe Messiah Yeshua or the false prophets???
If these people were True Believers - they would be watching and waiting EVERY SINGLE DAY instead of using numerology (which G-d calls an abomination) or interpreting omens (which G-d calls detestable) - but they would rather be disobedient and would rather tell Messiah Yeshua He did not know what He was talking about because THEY COULD figure out the day of His return even though He said they could not (even though they have been wrong 100's of times in the past, it does not stop them from falsely prophecying more "rapture dates"
date setting is being disobedient to G-d. All the past false dates PROVE they could NOT figure it out - and yet instead of repenting and KEEPING WATCH, they set even more wrong "rapture dates" and giving Messiah Yeshua a bad name. They have wrecked many peoples' faith and will be punished for it.
Matthew 7
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
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Sam Orlando (30 Sep 2008) "Rosh Hashanna Rapture"
Dear Doves,
I just wanted to say that I am in agreement with those looking for the soon return of our blessed Savior soon. I have been watching and waiting since 1978. This year I was convinced that the Lord was coming for us on Firstfruits 2008. I posted a few things on that as some might remember. To say I was disappointed that he did not return for us is an understatement. The reason I choose Firstfruits are many but a couple of things that stand out are:
We as the bride are of the Barley Harvest. This is the first Spring harvest and starts at the feast of Firstfruits. When we get to Pentecost it is the Wheat harvest time. Now the important point in this posting is the timing of the "grape" harvest. This is a harvest in the fall season. The grape harvest is far the wicked which will commence at mid-trib which should be in the "fall" of the year to coincide with that harvest. If mid-trib is in the fall then the trib needs to start in the spring. Also when the Jews are told to "pray that their mid-trib flight be not in the winter", that is a clue form the Lord as to the timing of mid-trib being at the time of the fall harvest at the beginning of winter.
I am writing this letter because I can see that "IF" the rapture does not happen this Rosh Hashanah there is going to be a lot of very disappointed people. That is obvious from reading all of the letters posted on this site and many others about this date. I just remember how I felt this last Firstfruits and wanted to prepare everyone for the possibility that it might not happen. I say this because I am convince that it has to be a Spring Harvest and on specifically on Firstfruits. I know many say that the Lord fulfilled the spring feast but that is just an "assumption" on their part. There is no scripture that I can find that specifically says that the spring feast are fulfilled. We should never assume anything unless it is plainly written in scripture.
One more thing that has been excepted as fact is that this last Rosh Hashanah in 2007 was the start of a new sabbatical cycle and the year 5769. I also believed this since it is the one excepted by the Rabbi's of today. Since I believe and many others that the 7 year Tribulation has to fall within one of these 7 year cycles, that is why I chose this last Firstfruits as the day of our departure. When that did not happen on Firstfruits April 26th I was still convinced that Firstfruits was the correct day. I knew that the only reason it did not happen this year could only be for one reason; that this year is not the first year of a new Sabbatical Cycle. I am convinced that because the Jews were partially blinded and subtracted years from their calendar to hide the birth of Jesus that the Lord then blinded them of their true Sabbatical cycle. Until this issue is resolved and the true Sabbatical Cycle is rediscovered then we may not know what year the rapture will occur. Myself and a few friends have been studying up on this issue and will have something to report on this in the future.
I was ready to go home years ago so if we go in the next two days that will make me a very happy camper! However I am just trying to soften the blow of disappointment in case we are still here after Wednesday. Just remember that the signs that in the news everyday now are what I expected to see just before Firstfruits this last spring and was disappointed that they were not there. So keep your spirits up because it can't be long now for sure.
YBIC
Sam Orlando
gone_n_2008@comcast.net
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If these people were True Believers - they would be watching and waiting EVERY SINGLE DAY instead of using numerology (which G-d calls an abomination) or interpreting omens (which G-d calls detestable) - but they would rather be disobedient and would rather tell Messiah Yeshua He did not know what He was talking about because THEY COULD figure out the day of His return even though He said they could not (even though they have been wrong 100's of times in the past, it does not stop them from falsely prophecying more "rapture dates"
date setting is being disobedient to G-d. All the past false dates PROVE they could NOT figure it out - and yet instead of repenting and KEEPING WATCH, they set even more wrong "rapture dates" and giving Messiah Yeshua a bad name. They have wrecked many peoples' faith and will be punished for it.
Matthew 7
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
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Sam Orlando (30 Sep 2008) "Rosh Hashanna Rapture"
Dear Doves,
I just wanted to say that I am in agreement with those looking for the soon return of our blessed Savior soon. I have been watching and waiting since 1978. This year I was convinced that the Lord was coming for us on Firstfruits 2008. I posted a few things on that as some might remember. To say I was disappointed that he did not return for us is an understatement. The reason I choose Firstfruits are many but a couple of things that stand out are:
We as the bride are of the Barley Harvest. This is the first Spring harvest and starts at the feast of Firstfruits. When we get to Pentecost it is the Wheat harvest time. Now the important point in this posting is the timing of the "grape" harvest. This is a harvest in the fall season. The grape harvest is far the wicked which will commence at mid-trib which should be in the "fall" of the year to coincide with that harvest. If mid-trib is in the fall then the trib needs to start in the spring. Also when the Jews are told to "pray that their mid-trib flight be not in the winter", that is a clue form the Lord as to the timing of mid-trib being at the time of the fall harvest at the beginning of winter.
I am writing this letter because I can see that "IF" the rapture does not happen this Rosh Hashanah there is going to be a lot of very disappointed people. That is obvious from reading all of the letters posted on this site and many others about this date. I just remember how I felt this last Firstfruits and wanted to prepare everyone for the possibility that it might not happen. I say this because I am convince that it has to be a Spring Harvest and on specifically on Firstfruits. I know many say that the Lord fulfilled the spring feast but that is just an "assumption" on their part. There is no scripture that I can find that specifically says that the spring feast are fulfilled. We should never assume anything unless it is plainly written in scripture.
One more thing that has been excepted as fact is that this last Rosh Hashanah in 2007 was the start of a new sabbatical cycle and the year 5769. I also believed this since it is the one excepted by the Rabbi's of today. Since I believe and many others that the 7 year Tribulation has to fall within one of these 7 year cycles, that is why I chose this last Firstfruits as the day of our departure. When that did not happen on Firstfruits April 26th I was still convinced that Firstfruits was the correct day. I knew that the only reason it did not happen this year could only be for one reason; that this year is not the first year of a new Sabbatical Cycle. I am convinced that because the Jews were partially blinded and subtracted years from their calendar to hide the birth of Jesus that the Lord then blinded them of their true Sabbatical cycle. Until this issue is resolved and the true Sabbatical Cycle is rediscovered then we may not know what year the rapture will occur. Myself and a few friends have been studying up on this issue and will have something to report on this in the future.
I was ready to go home years ago so if we go in the next two days that will make me a very happy camper! However I am just trying to soften the blow of disappointment in case we are still here after Wednesday. Just remember that the signs that in the news everyday now are what I expected to see just before Firstfruits this last spring and was disappointed that they were not there. So keep your spirits up because it can't be long now for sure.
YBIC
Sam Orlando
gone_n_2008@comcast.net
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David W. Zavitz - another wicked interpreter of omens
Oh Gee - I had a 777 jet fly over during a hike yesterday and I looked at my watch and it was 7:06 (which is really 6:66) and I counted changed when I bought lunch and it was 18 cents (6+6+6) - all prophetically significant numbers - but I'm not writing all over the internet how prophetically significant it was because it WAS NOT SIGNIFICANT AT ALL.
These guys at the five demons ("doves") site are demon possessed fruit cakes that need mental help.
Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/dwz930-1.htm
David W. Zavitz (30 Sep 2008) "Dow dives 777 points ... WHERE have we seen THREE 7's before?"
Dow dives 777 points, biggest single day fall ever, as House rejectsfinancial bailout packagehttp://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080930/wall_street.htmlWhere have we seen THREE 7's before ... 7 Seals, 7 Trumpets, 7 Vials7 "And when he had opened the seventh seal ... (Revelation 8:1)7 "And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices inheaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms ofour Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever."(Revelation 11:15)7 "And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air ..."(Revelation 16:17)Revelation 16:15-2115 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, andkeepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrewtongue Armageddon.17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and therecame a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne,saying, It is done.18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there wasa great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, somighty an earthquake, and so great.19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities ofthe nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, togive unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stoneabout the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of theplague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.
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These guys at the five demons ("doves") site are demon possessed fruit cakes that need mental help.
Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/dwz930-1.htm
David W. Zavitz (30 Sep 2008) "Dow dives 777 points ... WHERE have we seen THREE 7's before?"
Dow dives 777 points, biggest single day fall ever, as House rejectsfinancial bailout packagehttp://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080930/wall_street.htmlWhere have we seen THREE 7's before ... 7 Seals, 7 Trumpets, 7 Vials7 "And when he had opened the seventh seal ... (Revelation 8:1)7 "And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices inheaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms ofour Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever."(Revelation 11:15)7 "And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air ..."(Revelation 16:17)Revelation 16:15-2115 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, andkeepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrewtongue Armageddon.17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and therecame a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne,saying, It is done.18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there wasa great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, somighty an earthquake, and so great.19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities ofthe nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, togive unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stoneabout the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of theplague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.
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David Campbell - anti-Semitic false prophet / interpreter of omens
This guy is plain evil. He says because someone is Jewish that he is from the "synogogue of satan", He also states that because the dow closed in after hours trading (obviously he never knew about after hours trading before) 777.68 lower that it was prophetically significant and "a sign" (ie: he is interpreting omens which G-d calls detestable)
David Campbell is an antichrist himself.
Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."
What David Campbell does not understand is the verse he seems to be quoting (half quoting) at the end: (Revelation 3:9) them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the ---this is about those who hold to the satanic replacement theology claiming they took the place of the Jewish people in G-d's eyes - calling themselves the "new Israel".
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/davidc930.htm
David Campbell (30 Sep 2008) "777:
Discerning God's Judgment on our Economy"
Hi Doves, You know the Dow closed at 4:00pm yesterday at about 603. I've never seen it keep going on so long before. Kathy and I just watched it for about 15 minutes climb. That was also the longest I've seen them let it go before shutting it off. I asked her what she thought 777 meant, she said 777.68, that's 777.77 (adding the 6 and 8). Judgment!Anyway we thought too that the Lord was giving us a sign that He was doing this.But then I thought Sunday night that those House Republicans had the annointing and now know it was from Him. I started a thread Sunday night on Tree of Liberty about how the House Republicans were furious and that it looked like God had put steel in their spines:http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/s...ad.php?t=30038I didn't get many readers though. They were too busy complaining about the bailout package being a 'done deal' :(. Now we can see that God was at work putting it in even the democrats hearts to vote no :)Something I found out yesterday after the vote: The person in charge of the opposition, Barney Frank (chairman of the House Banking Commitee) has Jewish parents. Which means he's not only an open homosexual but he is Jewish. Which brought to mind this scripture:Rev 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy ofsynagogue of Satan. Keep watching for Jesus and praying, in obedience to His word (Luke 21:36) www.soundanalarm.net them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the
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David Campbell is an antichrist himself.
Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."
What David Campbell does not understand is the verse he seems to be quoting (half quoting) at the end: (Revelation 3:9) them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the ---this is about those who hold to the satanic replacement theology claiming they took the place of the Jewish people in G-d's eyes - calling themselves the "new Israel".
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/davidc930.htm
David Campbell (30 Sep 2008) "777:
Discerning God's Judgment on our Economy"
Hi Doves, You know the Dow closed at 4:00pm yesterday at about 603. I've never seen it keep going on so long before. Kathy and I just watched it for about 15 minutes climb. That was also the longest I've seen them let it go before shutting it off. I asked her what she thought 777 meant, she said 777.68, that's 777.77 (adding the 6 and 8). Judgment!Anyway we thought too that the Lord was giving us a sign that He was doing this.But then I thought Sunday night that those House Republicans had the annointing and now know it was from Him. I started a thread Sunday night on Tree of Liberty about how the House Republicans were furious and that it looked like God had put steel in their spines:http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/s...ad.php?t=30038I didn't get many readers though. They were too busy complaining about the bailout package being a 'done deal' :(. Now we can see that God was at work putting it in even the democrats hearts to vote no :)Something I found out yesterday after the vote: The person in charge of the opposition, Barney Frank (chairman of the House Banking Commitee) has Jewish parents. Which means he's not only an open homosexual but he is Jewish. Which brought to mind this scripture:Rev 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy ofsynagogue of Satan. Keep watching for Jesus and praying, in obedience to His word (Luke 21:36) www.soundanalarm.net them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the
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Monday, September 29, 2008
false prophet "pastor" FM Riley makes excuses for his failed false prophecy in june and prophecies the rapture will be today or tomorrow
I won't bother you with posting his false prophecy garbage - just the statement that he prophecies the rapture will be today or tomorrow after he makes an excuse for his failed prophecy about the rapture being in june 2008. If you want to read his garbage - don't believe a word he says - he is a wicked false prophet who works for satan.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/fmriley929.htm
F.M. Riley (29 Sep 2008)
"The Last Pieces of the Puzzle"
Folks, my heart’s desire is to meet every reader in glory today or tomorrow, for our Lord is coming! Please don’t disappoint me. I am praying for you in tears as I write.
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Saturday, September 27, 2008
"pastor" bob says there will be marshall law and war this week
John Tng, owner of the faive demons ('doves") site finds nothing wrong with posting all the garbage that he posts and yet refuses to post bible verses saying that unless you obey G-d Messiah Yeshua will reject you even if you claim you are following Him (Matthew 7:21-23)
Never mind that garbage like this is spread before every u.s. president election since the internet allowed all these fruitcakes unlimited access (october 5 is also when it is alleged VP candidate Biden will step down and Hillary will be his replacement - garbage like this is always spread by fruitcakes before an election)
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/pastorbob927.htm
Pastor Bob (27 Sep 2008)
"DEFCON 1"
Doves: Related to the fact that President Bush will call "economic emergency" on Oct. 5th and institute martial law suspending November election indefinitely, the Secretary of Defense, Gates has ordered all military commands to DEFCON 1 status "on/or about October 7th.
To my knowledge this has not taken place since the Cuban nuclear missile crisis in the Fall of 1962.
Military DEFCON ranges from low of DEFCON 5 to the highest alert status of DEFCON 1. This means WAR or ready for WAR!
Pastor Bob
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Never mind that garbage like this is spread before every u.s. president election since the internet allowed all these fruitcakes unlimited access (october 5 is also when it is alleged VP candidate Biden will step down and Hillary will be his replacement - garbage like this is always spread by fruitcakes before an election)
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/pastorbob927.htm
Pastor Bob (27 Sep 2008)
"DEFCON 1"
Doves: Related to the fact that President Bush will call "economic emergency" on Oct. 5th and institute martial law suspending November election indefinitely, the Secretary of Defense, Gates has ordered all military commands to DEFCON 1 status "on/or about October 7th.
To my knowledge this has not taken place since the Cuban nuclear missile crisis in the Fall of 1962.
Military DEFCON ranges from low of DEFCON 5 to the highest alert status of DEFCON 1. This means WAR or ready for WAR!
Pastor Bob
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Yet another false "three day warning" before the rapture
Never mind Messiah yeshua said to CONTINUALLY WATCH because we would NOT know the time of His return and that He would return at a time we don't think He will and He never said anything about three (or ten) day warnings. ALL of the five demons ("doves") as well as millions of others will be watching the next couple of weeks so it is likely Messiah Yeshua will not be returning until after then (although I will continue to watch each and every day and each and every minute as Messiah Yeshua commanded)
This "three day warning" false prophet promoted by false prophet FM Riley is yet another false prophecy which causes people to lose faith when they are wrong (FM Riley guaranteed the rapture would happen in june (2008) yet he was wrong and all his followers still follow him instead of reject him for being a false prophet as G-d commanded)
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/fmriley927.htm
F.M. Riley (27 Sep 2008) "Re: I TRULY BELIEVE THIS WAS A "3-DAY WARNING"!!!!!"
Dear Brother Tarone,
Praise the Lord dear brother. I am not an interpreter of dreams, but I sure know the Lord is coming, and I too believe it will be during Rosh HaShanah. I am looking for the Lord anytime from Monday morning through Wednesday morning. The sooner the better!
God bless you dear brother. I'll meet you in glory in a few more hours. Three days.....72 hours, just like our Lord! Praise the Lord.
Bro. Riley
----- Original Message ----From: Taron HarrisTo: fmrglbd5@yahoo.comSent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:37:27 AMSubject: I TRULY BELIEVE THIS WAS A "3-DAY WARNING"!!!!!
Good morning Pastor Riley. How are you feeling this morning? I hope you begin to feel better soon. I found out about your illness on the 5 Doves website, and I want to tell you that I will be praying for your speedy recovery. Speaking of "speedy", I got something to tell you in regards to what's about to happen. This morning I had a series of dreams just before I got up. They were centered about Bible prophecy and world-renown teachers/preachers on television.
In these dreams there was Jack and Rexella Van Impe, J. R. Church, and Gary Stearman from Prophecy in the News. We all were sitting at a big table discussing the end times and what's about to take place. We were sharing the understanding that God has given to each of us individually, as well as what He has shown us all as a part of the Body of Christ.
This is really what I want you to pay attention to right here!!!Among the cluster of dreams taking place in my sleep this morning, I saw a Jewish man standing near what looked like a cliff. There was a large city behind him, but it didn't look like an American city. It looked like one in the Middle East. The sun was going down, and the sky was a beautiful orange and red color, with stars beginning to appear above. The Jewish man was wearing dark colored clothes, and he had a hat on his head. As I stood there and observed the surroundings, he soon pulled out a large vase-type object. At first I thought it was a vase, but when he put it up to his mouth, I thought to myself, "Why is he putting that vase up to his mouth?"
Once he put the "vase" up to his mouth, he started blowing into it. The object began making a sound, but I couldn't tell what it was. Then I noticed something shocking and unusual about this object. As the man continued blowing into it, it began to grow an become larger, kinda like "Penochio's Nose when he told lies". HA HA HA
As the object grew bigger and bigger, it also got longer and longer, until it turned out to be A SHOFAR! He kept right on blowing, and the shofar played the most beautiful sound I'd ever heard...FOR A LONG TIME!!! The shofar lasted about 30 seconds.
Pastor Riley, the Shofar is exactly what is going to sound at the Rapture, and I FEEL DEEP INSIDE MY SPIRIT THAT GOD WAS GIVEN ME A "3-DAY WARNING"! Rosh Hashanah is this coming Monday evening at 6:00pm Israel time, and will last until Wednesdat, October 1 at sunset. Monday Sept. 29 BEGINS A NEW SABBATICAL CYCLE FOR ISRAEL, AND WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS. I CAN'T WAIT!!!!
Taron Jerone Harris
All of God's Promises are "Yea" and "Amen".
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This "three day warning" false prophet promoted by false prophet FM Riley is yet another false prophecy which causes people to lose faith when they are wrong (FM Riley guaranteed the rapture would happen in june (2008) yet he was wrong and all his followers still follow him instead of reject him for being a false prophet as G-d commanded)
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/fmriley927.htm
F.M. Riley (27 Sep 2008) "Re: I TRULY BELIEVE THIS WAS A "3-DAY WARNING"!!!!!"
Dear Brother Tarone,
Praise the Lord dear brother. I am not an interpreter of dreams, but I sure know the Lord is coming, and I too believe it will be during Rosh HaShanah. I am looking for the Lord anytime from Monday morning through Wednesday morning. The sooner the better!
God bless you dear brother. I'll meet you in glory in a few more hours. Three days.....72 hours, just like our Lord! Praise the Lord.
Bro. Riley
----- Original Message ----From: Taron HarrisTo: fmrglbd5@yahoo.comSent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:37:27 AMSubject: I TRULY BELIEVE THIS WAS A "3-DAY WARNING"!!!!!
Good morning Pastor Riley. How are you feeling this morning? I hope you begin to feel better soon. I found out about your illness on the 5 Doves website, and I want to tell you that I will be praying for your speedy recovery. Speaking of "speedy", I got something to tell you in regards to what's about to happen. This morning I had a series of dreams just before I got up. They were centered about Bible prophecy and world-renown teachers/preachers on television.
In these dreams there was Jack and Rexella Van Impe, J. R. Church, and Gary Stearman from Prophecy in the News. We all were sitting at a big table discussing the end times and what's about to take place. We were sharing the understanding that God has given to each of us individually, as well as what He has shown us all as a part of the Body of Christ.
This is really what I want you to pay attention to right here!!!Among the cluster of dreams taking place in my sleep this morning, I saw a Jewish man standing near what looked like a cliff. There was a large city behind him, but it didn't look like an American city. It looked like one in the Middle East. The sun was going down, and the sky was a beautiful orange and red color, with stars beginning to appear above. The Jewish man was wearing dark colored clothes, and he had a hat on his head. As I stood there and observed the surroundings, he soon pulled out a large vase-type object. At first I thought it was a vase, but when he put it up to his mouth, I thought to myself, "Why is he putting that vase up to his mouth?"
Once he put the "vase" up to his mouth, he started blowing into it. The object began making a sound, but I couldn't tell what it was. Then I noticed something shocking and unusual about this object. As the man continued blowing into it, it began to grow an become larger, kinda like "Penochio's Nose when he told lies". HA HA HA
As the object grew bigger and bigger, it also got longer and longer, until it turned out to be A SHOFAR! He kept right on blowing, and the shofar played the most beautiful sound I'd ever heard...FOR A LONG TIME!!! The shofar lasted about 30 seconds.
Pastor Riley, the Shofar is exactly what is going to sound at the Rapture, and I FEEL DEEP INSIDE MY SPIRIT THAT GOD WAS GIVEN ME A "3-DAY WARNING"! Rosh Hashanah is this coming Monday evening at 6:00pm Israel time, and will last until Wednesdat, October 1 at sunset. Monday Sept. 29 BEGINS A NEW SABBATICAL CYCLE FOR ISRAEL, AND WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS. I CAN'T WAIT!!!!
Taron Jerone Harris
All of God's Promises are "Yea" and "Amen".
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false prophet Deborah thinks the internet will be taken down this weekend to prevent free speech ???
Never mind you can actually TALK to people, and telephone and fax congress (and you woudn't spread garbage like this around when you are face to face) When on the internet I guess it's much easier spreading garbage like Deborah does on satanist forums such as five demons ("doves")
Wanna bet the internet will still be up on monday???
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/deborah927-2.htm
Deborah (27 Sep 2008)
"Will Internet (and free speech) be taken down this weekend???"
Hmmmm.....a thought just occurred to me......Will the Internet (and free speech) be taken down this weekend???
Payback for flooding CONgress for "Hell, No! to bail-out/give-away" this past week.
Without the internet......how would we have free speech? Game would be over for the sheeples. Hmmm.....just wondering if the one of the impending false flag terrorist attacks will be to cripple the internet. We'll see....
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Wanna bet the internet will still be up on monday???
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/deborah927-2.htm
Deborah (27 Sep 2008)
"Will Internet (and free speech) be taken down this weekend???"
Hmmmm.....a thought just occurred to me......Will the Internet (and free speech) be taken down this weekend???
Payback for flooding CONgress for "Hell, No! to bail-out/give-away" this past week.
Without the internet......how would we have free speech? Game would be over for the sheeples. Hmmm.....just wondering if the one of the impending false flag terrorist attacks will be to cripple the internet. We'll see....
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Thomas Taylor - wacky and wicked interpreter of omens
Wow - now we have someone that can take ANY current event and make a bible verse fit it - AND he claims the next united states president will be the antimessiah. You also have the satanic five demons ("doves") having no discernment post this garbage.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/thomast927-2.htm
Thomas Taylor (27 Sep 2008) "US Bailout in the Bible Dan 11:20"
The current state of affairs concerning the US efforts to pass a financial rescue plan in order to maintain the American economy is spoken of in Dan 11:20 (NIV)
“His successor will send out a tax collector to maintain the royal splendor. In a few years, however, he will be destroyed, yet not in anger or in battle.
Paraphrasing this verse:
President Bush directs the Federal Reserve Chairman to preserve the economy. However, in a few days Bush’s tenure will end after the elections.
The main difference between the verses in the NIV vs. the KJV is that few years (NIV) is noted as few days (KJV), so at this point I’m inclined to go with the KJV, because the Presidential elections are scheduled for November 4.
Guess, what is spoken of next in verses Dan 11:21-23? The upcoming 2008 Presidential elections, now things are really getting scary, because the winner appears to be the man of sin that is revealed in scripture.
Thanks
Thomas
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/thomast927-2.htm
Thomas Taylor (27 Sep 2008) "US Bailout in the Bible Dan 11:20"
The current state of affairs concerning the US efforts to pass a financial rescue plan in order to maintain the American economy is spoken of in Dan 11:20 (NIV)
“His successor will send out a tax collector to maintain the royal splendor. In a few years, however, he will be destroyed, yet not in anger or in battle.
Paraphrasing this verse:
President Bush directs the Federal Reserve Chairman to preserve the economy. However, in a few days Bush’s tenure will end after the elections.
The main difference between the verses in the NIV vs. the KJV is that few years (NIV) is noted as few days (KJV), so at this point I’m inclined to go with the KJV, because the Presidential elections are scheduled for November 4.
Guess, what is spoken of next in verses Dan 11:21-23? The upcoming 2008 Presidential elections, now things are really getting scary, because the winner appears to be the man of sin that is revealed in scripture.
Thanks
Thomas
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Friday, September 26, 2008
Karen Leonard - another wicked interpreter of omens
I can't believe people actually would think this means anything (if it even happened)
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/karenl926-1.htm
Karen Leonard (26 Sep 2008)
"The Rapture"
I wanted to share w/you an interesting story that happened this afternoon.My daughter and my sister were downtown near the Fairmont Hotel, and they said a woman dressed as a bride was running down the street, crying fully dressed from head to toe in bridal attire, with a long train, crying. She then sat down on a bench, so they went over to comfort her.
They said she told them it was only a prank, or some sort of a hunt, (for a company???)
Anyway they said 5 people from different nationalities came over to console her!!! I was so surprised at this because I had been talking to them this morning about the rapture of the Bride (NEXT WEEK), and they were sort of ho hum, if he comes were ready!!!
Could this be a message to wake up!!! after all it was a bride crying and their were 5 people looking for her????hmhmmmmm..........
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/karenl926-1.htm
Karen Leonard (26 Sep 2008)
"The Rapture"
I wanted to share w/you an interesting story that happened this afternoon.My daughter and my sister were downtown near the Fairmont Hotel, and they said a woman dressed as a bride was running down the street, crying fully dressed from head to toe in bridal attire, with a long train, crying. She then sat down on a bench, so they went over to comfort her.
They said she told them it was only a prank, or some sort of a hunt, (for a company???)
Anyway they said 5 people from different nationalities came over to console her!!! I was so surprised at this because I had been talking to them this morning about the rapture of the Bride (NEXT WEEK), and they were sort of ho hum, if he comes were ready!!!
Could this be a message to wake up!!! after all it was a bride crying and their were 5 people looking for her????hmhmmmmm..........
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Wednesday, September 24, 2008
Marilyn Agee - false prophet and now writer of fairy tales
Not only has Marilyn Agee been around for years guaranteeing the rapture was going to be a certain date (and wrote a book which she spammed to every Christian site on the internet) and that prophecy failed - she is now writing fairy tales claiming Messiah Yeshua will come from the planet saturn.
Once a false prophet, always a false prophet.
Not all of her satanic garbage is posted here - just enough to show you what I have said is true - not worth reading her trash.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/marilyna924.htm
Marilyn Agee (24 Sep 2008) "Denis Hart, "Eclipses and the 2008 to 2017 Dilemma"
From: Marilyn Agee
Re: Denis Hart, "Eclipses and the 2008 to 2017 Dilemma
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/denish923.htm
Hi:
> > ...Jesus’s return to earth on Yom Kippur 2017. This may not be so, but we need to recognise that the window for the Rapture may be from 2008 to 2010 - the good news is that there is little room to move beyond 2017!!
HOW CAN WE MOVE BEYOND 2016?
To me, it looks like Jesus will make the trip from Shabbatai (the 7th planet, Saturn) to eretz Israel on Shabbat (the 7th day, the Sabbath). I think that day will be Saturday, Nisan 1, 5776 (April 9, 2016). Mt 12:8 says, "THE SON OF MAN IS LORD EVEN OF THE SABBATH DAY". I think Jesus is Lord of Shabbatai and of the Shabbat.
Why Shabbatai? Eze. saw a vision of "God" (Eze.1:1) and "man" (1:26) on a sapphire throne farther out in space then the 4 terrestrial planets. The God/man is Jesus. Sapphire means dear to the planet Saturn, from the Sanskrit Sani, Saturn, and priya, dear. Also, the sapphire is Jesus' birthstone. It is September's stone and means Heaven. I think he was born on Tishri 1 (Sept. 4, BC 5), when the Moon was under the feet of Virgo.
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Once a false prophet, always a false prophet.
Not all of her satanic garbage is posted here - just enough to show you what I have said is true - not worth reading her trash.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/marilyna924.htm
Marilyn Agee (24 Sep 2008) "Denis Hart, "Eclipses and the 2008 to 2017 Dilemma"
From: Marilyn Agee
Re: Denis Hart, "Eclipses and the 2008 to 2017 Dilemma
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/denish923.htm
Hi:
> > ...Jesus’s return to earth on Yom Kippur 2017. This may not be so, but we need to recognise that the window for the Rapture may be from 2008 to 2010 - the good news is that there is little room to move beyond 2017!!
HOW CAN WE MOVE BEYOND 2016?
To me, it looks like Jesus will make the trip from Shabbatai (the 7th planet, Saturn) to eretz Israel on Shabbat (the 7th day, the Sabbath). I think that day will be Saturday, Nisan 1, 5776 (April 9, 2016). Mt 12:8 says, "THE SON OF MAN IS LORD EVEN OF THE SABBATH DAY". I think Jesus is Lord of Shabbatai and of the Shabbat.
Why Shabbatai? Eze. saw a vision of "God" (Eze.1:1) and "man" (1:26) on a sapphire throne farther out in space then the 4 terrestrial planets. The God/man is Jesus. Sapphire means dear to the planet Saturn, from the Sanskrit Sani, Saturn, and priya, dear. Also, the sapphire is Jesus' birthstone. It is September's stone and means Heaven. I think he was born on Tishri 1 (Sept. 4, BC 5), when the Moon was under the feet of Virgo.
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Stephen Bishop - actress' lines a prophecy? Follows the mayan calendar???
Steven Bishop claims that a line in a movie is a prophecy about 2015. He also has a mayan calendar countdown on his web page. Not only is Steven Bishop following a false prophecy (I'm sure the actress had no thought about it being prophetic) he is interpreting it as an omen. He is also following the satanic mayans calendar system giving it credibility which shows he is following a false "god" and is in no way a Christian.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/stephenb924.htm
Stephen Bishop (24 Sep 2007) "Elisabeth Shue Prophecy"
This is kinda spooky...
It pertains to the Blood Moons of 2014-15
For those who may have seen the Sci-fi classic Back to the Future trilogy about an inventor and a high school student and various adventures they got up to with a time machine interfering with some personal family history and having to travel around through time to correct it...
Elisabeth Shue played Jennifer, the girlfriend of this high school student Marty whom they had to passenger along to spare her being left behind to blab about the vehicle travelling in time.
In the 2nd film they transported to the year 2015. The script is from Jennifer marvelling at the thought of travelling through time.
"The year 2015 !! So like you weren't kidding!! We'll be able to see our wedding !! Was it a big wedding??? " then she gets zonked out with a sleep inducing alpha-rhythm generator...
If the blood moon prophecy is right and the year 2015 is the last year of satan's government on earth. Someone wasn't kidding and we'll be able to see the wedding supper of the lamb !!!
Y'all going to hire the DVD to watch it now, ain't ya? lol
In the words of Biff, another character in that same movie... "Bulletproof vest! Great flick.. Great flick!! The Guy is brilliant!!"
And Jesus will say at His return.... "The party's over, Biff"
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"The next Full Moon will be on October 15 @ 6 am"
Visit my home page http://au.geocities.com/bishbud228
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/stephenb924.htm
Stephen Bishop (24 Sep 2007) "Elisabeth Shue Prophecy"
This is kinda spooky...
It pertains to the Blood Moons of 2014-15
For those who may have seen the Sci-fi classic Back to the Future trilogy about an inventor and a high school student and various adventures they got up to with a time machine interfering with some personal family history and having to travel around through time to correct it...
Elisabeth Shue played Jennifer, the girlfriend of this high school student Marty whom they had to passenger along to spare her being left behind to blab about the vehicle travelling in time.
In the 2nd film they transported to the year 2015. The script is from Jennifer marvelling at the thought of travelling through time.
"The year 2015 !! So like you weren't kidding!! We'll be able to see our wedding !! Was it a big wedding??? " then she gets zonked out with a sleep inducing alpha-rhythm generator...
If the blood moon prophecy is right and the year 2015 is the last year of satan's government on earth. Someone wasn't kidding and we'll be able to see the wedding supper of the lamb !!!
Y'all going to hire the DVD to watch it now, ain't ya? lol
In the words of Biff, another character in that same movie... "Bulletproof vest! Great flick.. Great flick!! The Guy is brilliant!!"
And Jesus will say at His return.... "The party's over, Biff"
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"The next Full Moon will be on October 15 @ 6 am"
Visit my home page http://au.geocities.com/bishbud228
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Devorahli Rod - Evil interpreter of omens
Can you actually believe someone thinks seeing a couple of pigeons (doves) means anything significant???
And all those five demons ("doves" / pigeons) thinking there is nothing wrong with this interpreting of omens while G-d calls it detestable
Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/drod924.htm
Devorahli Rod (24 Sep 2008)
"TODAY SEPT.23 > DOVES EXPERIENCE!"
In the morning I saw 2 doves through my kitchen window.
and WAO!!! WAO !! >( spanish WOW)
IN the evening before go to bed I went to the PC to watch some news and I saw
this:
http://www.ovm.org/the-daily-prophecy.php
and right now opening the emails an israeli (pop up ) banner in from of me with 2 white doves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HALELUYAH, PRAISE THE LORD!!!!!!!
IT ISN'T WONDERFUL?
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And all those five demons ("doves" / pigeons) thinking there is nothing wrong with this interpreting of omens while G-d calls it detestable
Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/drod924.htm
Devorahli Rod (24 Sep 2008)
"TODAY SEPT.23 > DOVES EXPERIENCE!"
In the morning I saw 2 doves through my kitchen window.
and WAO!!! WAO !! >( spanish WOW)
IN the evening before go to bed I went to the PC to watch some news and I saw
this:
http://www.ovm.org/the-daily-prophecy.php
and right now opening the emails an israeli (pop up ) banner in from of me with 2 white doves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HALELUYAH, PRAISE THE LORD!!!!!!!
IT ISN'T WONDERFUL?
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Monday, September 22, 2008
The ignorant world of Tony Ellsworth
Can you believe this? He claims to be an expert about what he is talking about and then he is trying to show that the earth's axis tilts with the seasons??? Obviously he is not as educated as he pretends to be. Anyone who knows anything about astronomy (not the evil astrology) knows that the earth's axis does NOT tilt with the seasons and that the earth's axis is fixed (with a couple degrees variance) and the seasons change by the way the earth rotates around the sun.
Note that Tony Ellsworth also equates son with sun. This shows that he is a pagan ba-al (ie: sun "god") worhipper and is not following Messiah Yeshua who is NOT the sun. Tony Ellsworth has shown his true beliefs of ba-al worship which G-d calls an abomination.
Note that Tony Ellsworth also equates son with sun. This shows that he is a pagan ba-al (ie: sun "god") worhipper and is not following Messiah Yeshua who is NOT the sun. Tony Ellsworth has shown his true beliefs of ba-al worship which G-d calls an abomination.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/tonye922.htm
Tony Ellsworth (22 Sep 2008)
"See His Face"
Monday, September 22nd 2008 is Fall Equinox.
Summer Solstice thru Autumn Equinox = Earth “head bowed” A time of preparation and bowing of the head to the Sun (Son), King of Kings & Lord of Lords
Equinox both Spring & Fall = Earth “eye to eye” w/ the Sun (Son). September 22nd is the Fall Equinox this year.
Job 33:26He shall pray unto God, and he will be favourable unto him: and he shall see his face with joy: for he will render unto man his righteousness.
Revelation 22:4And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.
Winter Solstice thru Spring Equinox = “head raised”
Winter Solstice occurs on December 21st or 22nd depending on the year. This may point to a future year where the anti-christ, on earth has his head raised against the Sun (Son) such as December 22nd 2012.
To learn more please visit http://www.midnightshout.com/ and read my free eBook entitled “Midnight Shout!”
Also, you can be added to the monthly “watch alerts” by emailing me at tony@midnightshout.com
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Bob Ware satanist / numerologist
Yet the five demons ("doves") site has no problem posting his numerology garbage? There is absolutely NO WAY a True Christian site would promote his garbage - and yet they see nothing wrong with posting it and nobody is allowed to post anything against this satanic garbage / numerology.
Anyone who believes this garbage is NOT a Christian - they are following a false prophet and will be punished the same as the false prophet they are following:
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/bobware922.htm
Bob Ware (22 Sep 2008)
"Musical Notes yield both Past and Future Jewish day numbers within the octave totaling 3700"
This is a continuation of my previous posts on the 88 notes of the piano keyboard:
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/bobware917.htm
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/bobware918-2.htm
I began numbering the last days from the start of the current 19-year Jewish calendar cycle which was 10/2/1997. The 1441st day of this calendar cycle was 9/11/2001. The total gematria of the 12 tribe names on the Breastplate in the Book of Exodus is 3700. Using the ‘Equal Tempered’ scale the sum of the frequencies in the 12 note octave range from A3 to G#4 (piano key numbers 37 to 48) is also 3700. The sum of the four consecutive note frequencies within this octave (E4 to G4) is also 1441.
Starting with 10/2/1997 I began adding the musical note frequencies as if each single frequency vibration was a day. I did this to see what dates might fall within the octave that totals 3700. Thus, 10/2/1997 plus the first note of 27.5 would be 27 days later 10/29/1997. I then added the next frequency to that new date. Most of the results were very interesting. Below there are references to the number 754 which is Hebrew gematria for ‘JESUS CHRIST’. This number is an integral part of geometrical patterns I have shared in the past. The Greek gematria of 'JESUS CHRIST' (2368) / PI = 754.
The Golden Ratio is 1.618 and the average ratio of one note to the next in the ‘Equal Tempered’ scale is 1.059463. $2.34 was the token given by the Angel to Vincent Tan. 9/11/2001 was the 234th day in office for President GWB. PI x 1.618 x 1.059463 x 234 = 1260 > the number of days in the first half of the Tribulation.
Piano Key Number > Equivalent Date > My Notes:
37 > 3/21/2007 > 9/11/2001 + 2017 days. Stone 2017 is the center of the center row of the ‘Genesis 1:1 Pyramid’.
38 > 11/9/2007 > Date reverse of 9/11. The difference between the days transpired and remaining in the current Jewish calendar cycle was 440. 440 is A4 ‘Concert Pitch’ and the very next note after the octave that totals 3700.
39 > 7/13/2008 > 713 is the prime number gematria of ‘JESUS CHRIST’. 7/13/2008 was the 467th day from the center of the current Jewish calendar cycle. 467 is the center of the ‘Prime Cross’.
40 > 3/31/2009 > 331 is the gematria of the 12th and final stone of the Breastplate.
41 > 1/3/2010 > 1/3/2010 is the 7104th day of the current 30-year Islamic calendar cycle. 7104 equals 3 x 2368 which is the Greek gematria of ‘JESUS CHRIST’.
42 > 10/23/2010.
43 > 8/30/2011.
44 > 7/25/2012 > I began numbering the last days for the Body of Christ from the Winter Solstice of 5760. 7/25/2012 will be 4600 days from the Winter Solstice of 5760. 4600 equals 2 x 2300 which is the gematria of the six translatable words of Genesis 1:1. I began numbering the last days on the Gregorian calendar from 1/1/1996. From the first day of the current 30-year Islamic calendar cycle to 1/1/1996 was 1987 days. On 2/15/2007 the United States began making $1 gold finished coins with ‘IN GOD WE TRUST’ moved to the edge of the coin. Form 2/15/2007 to 7/25/2012 will be 1987 days. From the only crash of the Concorde (7/25/2000) to 7/25/2012 will be exactly 12 years. 113 people died in this crash and 113 is the first point of the ‘Prime Cross’.
45 > 7/9/2013 > Jewish day number 5760.
46 > 7/14/2014 > 7/13/2008 + 6 years and a day.
47 > 8/10/2015 > Y2K + 5700 days.
48 > 9/29/2016 > only four inclusive days left in the current Jewish calendar cycle. Again, the sum of the four consecutive note frequencies (E4 to G4) within this octave totaling 3700 is 1441 (the Jewish day number for 9/11/2001).
49 (7 x 7) > 12/13/2017 > 7104 days from the center of 1998 (3 x 666). 1998 is the sum of the ASCII codes for ‘Jesus Christ’ and ‘JESUS CHRIST’. Again, 7104 equals 3 x 2368 (the Greek gematria of ‘JESUS CHRIST’). The center of 1998 (7/2/1998) + 754 days was the date of the Concorde crash
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bobware88@juno.com
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Anyone who believes this garbage is NOT a Christian - they are following a false prophet and will be punished the same as the false prophet they are following:
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/bobware922.htm
Bob Ware (22 Sep 2008)
"Musical Notes yield both Past and Future Jewish day numbers within the octave totaling 3700"
This is a continuation of my previous posts on the 88 notes of the piano keyboard:
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/bobware917.htm
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/bobware918-2.htm
I began numbering the last days from the start of the current 19-year Jewish calendar cycle which was 10/2/1997. The 1441st day of this calendar cycle was 9/11/2001. The total gematria of the 12 tribe names on the Breastplate in the Book of Exodus is 3700. Using the ‘Equal Tempered’ scale the sum of the frequencies in the 12 note octave range from A3 to G#4 (piano key numbers 37 to 48) is also 3700. The sum of the four consecutive note frequencies within this octave (E4 to G4) is also 1441.
Starting with 10/2/1997 I began adding the musical note frequencies as if each single frequency vibration was a day. I did this to see what dates might fall within the octave that totals 3700. Thus, 10/2/1997 plus the first note of 27.5 would be 27 days later 10/29/1997. I then added the next frequency to that new date. Most of the results were very interesting. Below there are references to the number 754 which is Hebrew gematria for ‘JESUS CHRIST’. This number is an integral part of geometrical patterns I have shared in the past. The Greek gematria of 'JESUS CHRIST' (2368) / PI = 754.
The Golden Ratio is 1.618 and the average ratio of one note to the next in the ‘Equal Tempered’ scale is 1.059463. $2.34 was the token given by the Angel to Vincent Tan. 9/11/2001 was the 234th day in office for President GWB. PI x 1.618 x 1.059463 x 234 = 1260 > the number of days in the first half of the Tribulation.
Piano Key Number > Equivalent Date > My Notes:
37 > 3/21/2007 > 9/11/2001 + 2017 days. Stone 2017 is the center of the center row of the ‘Genesis 1:1 Pyramid’.
38 > 11/9/2007 > Date reverse of 9/11. The difference between the days transpired and remaining in the current Jewish calendar cycle was 440. 440 is A4 ‘Concert Pitch’ and the very next note after the octave that totals 3700.
39 > 7/13/2008 > 713 is the prime number gematria of ‘JESUS CHRIST’. 7/13/2008 was the 467th day from the center of the current Jewish calendar cycle. 467 is the center of the ‘Prime Cross’.
40 > 3/31/2009 > 331 is the gematria of the 12th and final stone of the Breastplate.
41 > 1/3/2010 > 1/3/2010 is the 7104th day of the current 30-year Islamic calendar cycle. 7104 equals 3 x 2368 which is the Greek gematria of ‘JESUS CHRIST’.
42 > 10/23/2010.
43 > 8/30/2011.
44 > 7/25/2012 > I began numbering the last days for the Body of Christ from the Winter Solstice of 5760. 7/25/2012 will be 4600 days from the Winter Solstice of 5760. 4600 equals 2 x 2300 which is the gematria of the six translatable words of Genesis 1:1. I began numbering the last days on the Gregorian calendar from 1/1/1996. From the first day of the current 30-year Islamic calendar cycle to 1/1/1996 was 1987 days. On 2/15/2007 the United States began making $1 gold finished coins with ‘IN GOD WE TRUST’ moved to the edge of the coin. Form 2/15/2007 to 7/25/2012 will be 1987 days. From the only crash of the Concorde (7/25/2000) to 7/25/2012 will be exactly 12 years. 113 people died in this crash and 113 is the first point of the ‘Prime Cross’.
45 > 7/9/2013 > Jewish day number 5760.
46 > 7/14/2014 > 7/13/2008 + 6 years and a day.
47 > 8/10/2015 > Y2K + 5700 days.
48 > 9/29/2016 > only four inclusive days left in the current Jewish calendar cycle. Again, the sum of the four consecutive note frequencies (E4 to G4) within this octave totaling 3700 is 1441 (the Jewish day number for 9/11/2001).
49 (7 x 7) > 12/13/2017 > 7104 days from the center of 1998 (3 x 666). 1998 is the sum of the ASCII codes for ‘Jesus Christ’ and ‘JESUS CHRIST’. Again, 7104 equals 3 x 2368 (the Greek gematria of ‘JESUS CHRIST’). The center of 1998 (7/2/1998) + 754 days was the date of the Concorde crash
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bobware88@juno.com
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Ola Ilori's fairy tales
Have no idea where this is at in the bible - but she believes it and since it isn't biblical, John Tng of the satanist site five demons ["doves"] (disguised as "christian" site) has posted it:
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/ola922.htm
Ola Ilori (22 Sep 2008)
"FEAST OF TRUMPETS 2008 WILL BE A DAY OF REMEMBRANCE"
Hi Doves,
I believe on the 30th of September 2008 all those who love and have faith in Jesus Christ are going to be remembered before God. I believe on that Day the Lord is going to mark out all those men, women and all children who are to be spared the horrors of the Great Tribulation.
That Day should be spent in prayer, in Praise and in speaking the Word of God. If possible one should take time off work to do this. If not, Just thinking about the Lord's goodness and mercy towards you would be acceptable.
I believe the Lord was referring to the Feast of Trumpets in Malachi 3:16, for it says,
"Then those who feared the Lord spoke to one another, and the Lord listened and heard them; So a book of remembrance was written before Him for those who fear the Lord and who meditate on His Name."
This is why we also read in Numbers,
"When you go to war in your land against the enemy who oppresses you, then you shall sound an alarm with the trumpets, and you will be remembered before the Lord your God, and you will be saved from your enemies" (10:9)
In the above verse the "land" is refering to our physical bodies. Sickness, disease, sin and death are the "enemies" that are continually oppressing us. Being "saved" is to receive our glorified bodies.
Once we have been marked out for the rapture on the 30th of September 2008. We will then be changed into the Lord's Jewels on the 21st of October 2008.
This is why in Malachi we further read,
"They shall be Mine, says the Lord of hosts, on the Day that I make them My Jewels. And I will spare them as a man spares his own son who serves him..." 3:17
I know that many are expecting the rapture to happen on the 30th of September. I would like to say to you to not be discouraged if we are still here after that date. We'll only have 3 more weeks to wait for our Lord.
Do remain blessed
Ola
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/ola922.htm
Ola Ilori (22 Sep 2008)
"FEAST OF TRUMPETS 2008 WILL BE A DAY OF REMEMBRANCE"
Hi Doves,
I believe on the 30th of September 2008 all those who love and have faith in Jesus Christ are going to be remembered before God. I believe on that Day the Lord is going to mark out all those men, women and all children who are to be spared the horrors of the Great Tribulation.
That Day should be spent in prayer, in Praise and in speaking the Word of God. If possible one should take time off work to do this. If not, Just thinking about the Lord's goodness and mercy towards you would be acceptable.
I believe the Lord was referring to the Feast of Trumpets in Malachi 3:16, for it says,
"Then those who feared the Lord spoke to one another, and the Lord listened and heard them; So a book of remembrance was written before Him for those who fear the Lord and who meditate on His Name."
This is why we also read in Numbers,
"When you go to war in your land against the enemy who oppresses you, then you shall sound an alarm with the trumpets, and you will be remembered before the Lord your God, and you will be saved from your enemies" (10:9)
In the above verse the "land" is refering to our physical bodies. Sickness, disease, sin and death are the "enemies" that are continually oppressing us. Being "saved" is to receive our glorified bodies.
Once we have been marked out for the rapture on the 30th of September 2008. We will then be changed into the Lord's Jewels on the 21st of October 2008.
This is why in Malachi we further read,
"They shall be Mine, says the Lord of hosts, on the Day that I make them My Jewels. And I will spare them as a man spares his own son who serves him..." 3:17
I know that many are expecting the rapture to happen on the 30th of September. I would like to say to you to not be discouraged if we are still here after that date. We'll only have 3 more weeks to wait for our Lord.
Do remain blessed
Ola
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false prophet Mark Copfer is at it again
Here is what Messiah Yeshua says:
"But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only" (Mat. 24:36).
"Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come" (Mat. 24:42).
"Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh" (Mat. 24:44).
"Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh" (Mat. 25:13).
The five foolish virgins (Matthew chapter 25) thought they had time to go out and buy oil but thr bridegroom returned before they got back - before they thought he would.
Only a false prophet would tell G-d when He has to tell His Son when to go get His bride. There is another group of false prophets that claims the bible says the rapture will be in the spring on "pentecost" and they, too, have "scriptural proof" of it. True followers of Messiah Yeshua are watching for His return EACH AND EVERY DAY as He commanded.
Luke 12:40 Be ye also ready: for in an hour that ye think not the Son of man cometh.
Here is what false prophet Mark Copfer says:
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/markc922-5.htm
Mark Copfer (22 Sep 2008) "Re:Rosh Hoshanah bandwagon"
We on that bandwagon seem to be in tune to what the biblical scriptures teach. There is no denying that. If the rapture does not happen on this Rosh Hashanah, then we can look forward to the next Rosh Hashanah. But according to Pastor Mark Biltz, NASA, Pastor Steve Hadley, all signs in the stars, moon, sun,sky, and "especially" Psalms 108, point to 2008 for the rapture of the Church. I do not think anybody is going to be hurt or injured if the rapture does not occur "this" Rosh Hashanah. Those of "us" on this bandwagon are much stronger than that. The scriptures point to the Rosh Hashanah fulfillment at the Rapture of the Church.. Scriptures point to the Wedding of the Church to the Messiah on Rosh Hashanah. Scriptures point to the Bema Judgement Seat of Christ during the 70th week, the tribulation week here on earth. And finally, 2 Peter 3:4, there are the ones in doubt, as Christ predicted in the scriptures, that would come in the last days, saying, where is the promise of his coming ? This seems to point to what you are saying Rick. And then you said this appauling statement: Rosh Hashanah Rapture is NOT guarenteed by God. Are you calling the biblical scriptures a lie ???I can show you proof as plain as day in the bible, that says that the catching away, (Rapture) occurs at the sounding of the Last Trump. I can also prove to you, which I have many times before, that the Last Trump is sounded during Rosh Hashanah This is what the bible says. Are you denying this ?? Well here is a little lesson. the shofar blown on Rosh HaShanah is known as the last trump, which Rav Sha'ul (the apostle Paul) mentioned in First Thessalonians 4:16-17. At this time, the believers in the Messiah who are righteous (tzaddikim) according to Yom HaDin (the Day of Judgment) will escape the tribulation (Chevlai shel Mashiach) on earth and will be taken to Heaven in the rapture (natzal) along with the righteous who had died before this time. What happens to the believers in the Messiah when they are taken to Heaven at this time? One of the events that will take place is the coronation of the Messiah Yeshua as King, which will happen in Heaven (Revelation 5). Yeshua, who had come to earth during His first coming to play the role of the suffering Messiah, Messiah ben Joseph (Yosef), will be crowned as King over all the earth in preparation for His coming back to earth to reign as King Messiah (Messiah ben David) during the Messianic age, the Millennium, or in Hebrew eschatology, the Athid Lavo (Revelation 19:16; 20:4).Another lesson is the Wedding of the Messiah to the Church on Rosh Hashanah... Please tell me if you could, how can the rapture occur at any other time, if the Wedding of the Messiah to his Church, proven biblically, is on Rosh Hashanah ???? How do you get around that ????The Bible is a marriage covenant. Both the Tanach (Old Testament) and the Brit Hadashah (New Testament) describe how G-d through the Mashiach (Messiah), the Bridegroom, is in the process of marrying His bride, the believers in Him who will ultimately live and dwell with Him forever.
G-d ordained and established marriage and its divine sanctity in the Torah, the very first book of the Bible, Genesis (Bereishit), when He brought Adam and Eve together to become one flesh (Genesis 2:21-24). In doing so, we have a vivid foreshadowing of the Messiah being married to those who would believe upon Him. Let's examine this closer.
Adam is a type of the Messiah Yeshua. Adam was made after the likeness of Yeshua (Romans 5:14). Yeshua (Jesus) was made in the likeness of Adam (Philippians 2:8). In fact, Yeshua is called the last Adam (1 Corinthians 15:45-47). In Genesis 2:21, G-d had a deep sleep fall upon Adam. Sleep is synonymous with death (Daniel 12:2; John [Yochanan] 11:11-14; 1 Corinthians 15:51-54; Ephesians 5:14). The deep sleep that G-d caused to fall upon Adam is a picture of the crucifixion and death of Yeshua, as Messiah ben Joseph. G-d brought a deep sleep upon Adam so He could take a rib from the side of his flesh. This required the shedding of blood. This is a picture of Yeshua who was pierced in the side of His flesh, shedding His own blood when He hung on the tree (John [Yochanan] 19:34).
From the rib of Adam, G-d made Eve. Likewise, by the death of Yeshua and faith (emunah) in Him, G-d established the assembly of believers known in Hebrew as the kehilat. The believers in the Messiah, His bride, become wedded to Him by faith (emunah). This marriage can be seen in the Tanach (Old Testament) as well as in Jeremiah 23:5-6, as it is written, .... this is His name whereby He shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS" (Jeremiah [Yermiyahu] 23:6). In Jeremiah 33:15-16, it is written, "...this is the name wherewith she shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS" (Jeremiah [Yermiyahu] 33:16). So from these passages in Jeremiah, we can see that a wedding is taking place. Therefore, by accepting, trusting, and believing in the Messiah, the bride of Messiah, His followers, become one with Him. These people would include both Jew and non-Jews who have lived since Adam and would include Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, David, and Solomon as well as the prophets.
So, the bottom line, is YES, God does Guarentee in his scriptures, proven in every living bible, that the Rapture, and the Wedding of the Messiah to his Church, occurs on, and during Rosh Hashanah.
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"But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only" (Mat. 24:36).
"Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come" (Mat. 24:42).
"Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh" (Mat. 24:44).
"Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh" (Mat. 25:13).
The five foolish virgins (Matthew chapter 25) thought they had time to go out and buy oil but thr bridegroom returned before they got back - before they thought he would.
Only a false prophet would tell G-d when He has to tell His Son when to go get His bride. There is another group of false prophets that claims the bible says the rapture will be in the spring on "pentecost" and they, too, have "scriptural proof" of it. True followers of Messiah Yeshua are watching for His return EACH AND EVERY DAY as He commanded.
Luke 12:40 Be ye also ready: for in an hour that ye think not the Son of man cometh.
Here is what false prophet Mark Copfer says:
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/markc922-5.htm
Mark Copfer (22 Sep 2008) "Re:Rosh Hoshanah bandwagon"
We on that bandwagon seem to be in tune to what the biblical scriptures teach. There is no denying that. If the rapture does not happen on this Rosh Hashanah, then we can look forward to the next Rosh Hashanah. But according to Pastor Mark Biltz, NASA, Pastor Steve Hadley, all signs in the stars, moon, sun,sky, and "especially" Psalms 108, point to 2008 for the rapture of the Church. I do not think anybody is going to be hurt or injured if the rapture does not occur "this" Rosh Hashanah. Those of "us" on this bandwagon are much stronger than that. The scriptures point to the Rosh Hashanah fulfillment at the Rapture of the Church.. Scriptures point to the Wedding of the Church to the Messiah on Rosh Hashanah. Scriptures point to the Bema Judgement Seat of Christ during the 70th week, the tribulation week here on earth. And finally, 2 Peter 3:4, there are the ones in doubt, as Christ predicted in the scriptures, that would come in the last days, saying, where is the promise of his coming ? This seems to point to what you are saying Rick. And then you said this appauling statement: Rosh Hashanah Rapture is NOT guarenteed by God. Are you calling the biblical scriptures a lie ???I can show you proof as plain as day in the bible, that says that the catching away, (Rapture) occurs at the sounding of the Last Trump. I can also prove to you, which I have many times before, that the Last Trump is sounded during Rosh Hashanah This is what the bible says. Are you denying this ?? Well here is a little lesson. the shofar blown on Rosh HaShanah is known as the last trump, which Rav Sha'ul (the apostle Paul) mentioned in First Thessalonians 4:16-17. At this time, the believers in the Messiah who are righteous (tzaddikim) according to Yom HaDin (the Day of Judgment) will escape the tribulation (Chevlai shel Mashiach) on earth and will be taken to Heaven in the rapture (natzal) along with the righteous who had died before this time. What happens to the believers in the Messiah when they are taken to Heaven at this time? One of the events that will take place is the coronation of the Messiah Yeshua as King, which will happen in Heaven (Revelation 5). Yeshua, who had come to earth during His first coming to play the role of the suffering Messiah, Messiah ben Joseph (Yosef), will be crowned as King over all the earth in preparation for His coming back to earth to reign as King Messiah (Messiah ben David) during the Messianic age, the Millennium, or in Hebrew eschatology, the Athid Lavo (Revelation 19:16; 20:4).Another lesson is the Wedding of the Messiah to the Church on Rosh Hashanah... Please tell me if you could, how can the rapture occur at any other time, if the Wedding of the Messiah to his Church, proven biblically, is on Rosh Hashanah ???? How do you get around that ????The Bible is a marriage covenant. Both the Tanach (Old Testament) and the Brit Hadashah (New Testament) describe how G-d through the Mashiach (Messiah), the Bridegroom, is in the process of marrying His bride, the believers in Him who will ultimately live and dwell with Him forever.
G-d ordained and established marriage and its divine sanctity in the Torah, the very first book of the Bible, Genesis (Bereishit), when He brought Adam and Eve together to become one flesh (Genesis 2:21-24). In doing so, we have a vivid foreshadowing of the Messiah being married to those who would believe upon Him. Let's examine this closer.
Adam is a type of the Messiah Yeshua. Adam was made after the likeness of Yeshua (Romans 5:14). Yeshua (Jesus) was made in the likeness of Adam (Philippians 2:8). In fact, Yeshua is called the last Adam (1 Corinthians 15:45-47). In Genesis 2:21, G-d had a deep sleep fall upon Adam. Sleep is synonymous with death (Daniel 12:2; John [Yochanan] 11:11-14; 1 Corinthians 15:51-54; Ephesians 5:14). The deep sleep that G-d caused to fall upon Adam is a picture of the crucifixion and death of Yeshua, as Messiah ben Joseph. G-d brought a deep sleep upon Adam so He could take a rib from the side of his flesh. This required the shedding of blood. This is a picture of Yeshua who was pierced in the side of His flesh, shedding His own blood when He hung on the tree (John [Yochanan] 19:34).
From the rib of Adam, G-d made Eve. Likewise, by the death of Yeshua and faith (emunah) in Him, G-d established the assembly of believers known in Hebrew as the kehilat. The believers in the Messiah, His bride, become wedded to Him by faith (emunah). This marriage can be seen in the Tanach (Old Testament) as well as in Jeremiah 23:5-6, as it is written, .... this is His name whereby He shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS" (Jeremiah [Yermiyahu] 23:6). In Jeremiah 33:15-16, it is written, "...this is the name wherewith she shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS" (Jeremiah [Yermiyahu] 33:16). So from these passages in Jeremiah, we can see that a wedding is taking place. Therefore, by accepting, trusting, and believing in the Messiah, the bride of Messiah, His followers, become one with Him. These people would include both Jew and non-Jews who have lived since Adam and would include Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, David, and Solomon as well as the prophets.
So, the bottom line, is YES, God does Guarentee in his scriptures, proven in every living bible, that the Rapture, and the Wedding of the Messiah to his Church, occurs on, and during Rosh Hashanah.
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Saturday, September 20, 2008
Shelva Sirry - wicked interpreter of omens
Supposedly now this years Kentucky Derby is telling us how the election will happen?
I cannot believe this garbage is posted on a site that claims to be Christian let alone nobody says anything against it (although the site is strictly censored so you know the satanist who owns it, John Tng, agrees with this satanic garbage)
Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/shelvas920-1.htm
Shelva Sirry (20 Sep 2008)
"For The Dove Asking About The Horse Race And The Election"
I posted what God gave a Pastor friend of mine on Hilliary and Obama.
She was shown that Big Brown was as Obama, and of course the favorite to win the Triple Crown.
Hilliary was the black filly who had to be put down because of her injuries.
As Karen watched the filly go down and learned she had been killed, she "knew" Hilliary would not win the nomination (which had not been decided at that time).
She also stated to me that she would be lucky to even retain her senate seat.
When Big Brown was pulled up by his jockey so that he finished last, Karen was shown that Obama would lose the race for President. What we did not know then was that Obama might not be in the running at all by election day.
Hope this helps. If you have any insight into this, please feel free to share it. Thanks.
Shelva
hallelujah74@hotmail.com
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I cannot believe this garbage is posted on a site that claims to be Christian let alone nobody says anything against it (although the site is strictly censored so you know the satanist who owns it, John Tng, agrees with this satanic garbage)
Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/shelvas920-1.htm
Shelva Sirry (20 Sep 2008)
"For The Dove Asking About The Horse Race And The Election"
I posted what God gave a Pastor friend of mine on Hilliary and Obama.
She was shown that Big Brown was as Obama, and of course the favorite to win the Triple Crown.
Hilliary was the black filly who had to be put down because of her injuries.
As Karen watched the filly go down and learned she had been killed, she "knew" Hilliary would not win the nomination (which had not been decided at that time).
She also stated to me that she would be lucky to even retain her senate seat.
When Big Brown was pulled up by his jockey so that he finished last, Karen was shown that Obama would lose the race for President. What we did not know then was that Obama might not be in the running at all by election day.
Hope this helps. If you have any insight into this, please feel free to share it. Thanks.
Shelva
hallelujah74@hotmail.com
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Peggy McIlveene and her internet "god"
Peggy not only is a wiccan who posts recipes with ingredients G-d calls an abomination (ie: pork and shellfish) she uses the internet as her "major way of worshiping the L-rd" Obviously she has no concept of REAL worship or of who G-d is --- she worships her pagan little ba-al "gods" who love pork , shellfish, sun(day) worship, and everything G-d calls an abomination.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/peggym920.htm
Peggy McIlveene (20 Sep 2008)
"Without power..."
Fortunately, I was able to put updates on the site for 9/13 – 9/17 before the electricity went off again, but it frustrates me not to be able to keep up with the updates until they fix our Internet again! That’s my major way of worshipping the Lord is by sharing with His children, and now I can’t do that.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/peggym920.htm
Peggy McIlveene (20 Sep 2008)
"Without power..."
Fortunately, I was able to put updates on the site for 9/13 – 9/17 before the electricity went off again, but it frustrates me not to be able to keep up with the updates until they fix our Internet again! That’s my major way of worshipping the Lord is by sharing with His children, and now I can’t do that.
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Frank R Molver and Dr. Luther Williams - Wicked numerologists and interpretation of omens
The five demons ("doves") site loves numerologists and interpretation of omens. Why do they falsely continue to claim to be a Christian site? and why do those who claim to be Christians believe all of these things that are an abomination to G-d???
Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/frankm920-3.htm
Frank R Molver (20 Sep 2008)
"the number 430, bad dream, ? meaning."
Just after I posted my Jesus weeps article around 3 pm I went back to sleep. I had this dream in which the number 430 was said.It had to do with some thugs who were stabbing a wife..? bride. The husband over heard it, she had gone away from him on an errand near by. They had accosted her and one said do it 430 times, indicating stabbing. I would have dismissed it as a bad dream except for hearing the specific number 430. I googled the biblical meaning of this and this is what I got. Could this indicate revenge on those left behind when the seperation comes? I don't know what else it could mean. Any ideas? Numbers mean more then just days and years, they signify events also.
43/430 * New ~ same as 430 ~ Dividing and separating, separation from sin, other side, a dividing. Jews were in Egypt 430 years. Genesis 11:17 ~ Eber (probable source of the word "Hebrew" ~ opposite or other side Jordan) lived 430 years after he begat Peleg (a division). To divide and separate from the sin nature ~ Dr. Luther Williams, theocodes@juno.com
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Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/frankm920-3.htm
Frank R Molver (20 Sep 2008)
"the number 430, bad dream, ? meaning."
Just after I posted my Jesus weeps article around 3 pm I went back to sleep. I had this dream in which the number 430 was said.It had to do with some thugs who were stabbing a wife..? bride. The husband over heard it, she had gone away from him on an errand near by. They had accosted her and one said do it 430 times, indicating stabbing. I would have dismissed it as a bad dream except for hearing the specific number 430. I googled the biblical meaning of this and this is what I got. Could this indicate revenge on those left behind when the seperation comes? I don't know what else it could mean. Any ideas? Numbers mean more then just days and years, they signify events also.
43/430 * New ~ same as 430 ~ Dividing and separating, separation from sin, other side, a dividing. Jews were in Egypt 430 years. Genesis 11:17 ~ Eber (probable source of the word "Hebrew" ~ opposite or other side Jordan) lived 430 years after he begat Peleg (a division). To divide and separate from the sin nature ~ Dr. Luther Williams, theocodes@juno.com
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Friday, September 19, 2008
Bob Schlenker - another wicked interpreter of omens
I cannot believe even the five demons ("doves") allows this garbage. Since they call themselves "Christian" then they will be judged accordingly.
G-d says those who interpret omens are DETESTABLE to Him:
Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."
Claiming that the olympics (a satanic event) and any presidential candidate signifies anything is WICKED. Anyone who believes Bob Schlenker's omen interpretation is NOT a Christian.
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Bob Schlenker (19 Sep 2008)
"Olympic Sign - McCain-Palin"
Sarah Palin is among several elements of signs related to the signs discovered in the Olympic closing ceremonies.
Juneau is equivilent to Beijing, which means "northern capital."
In the Bible, Gesenius' Lexicon indicates that Hebrew word for "northern" implies "hidden or obscure." When Sarah was selected by John McCain to be his running mate, she was brought from the north, from obscurity.
Her name "Palin" is found in the Bible as the transliteration of a Greek word. This has the meaning of "anew, again" that, when joined to verbs of all kinds denotes renewal or repetition of the action. The campaign logo McCain-Palin is the symbol that will be most evident, so, applying the meaning of "palin," the result is "McCain anew." What then is McCain? Mc = "son of" Cain, as son of son of Eve. Son of Adam? Some say yes, but the evidence points rather to the serpent. In light of the Olympic signs, "son of Cain anew" is a coherent match and one that should speak to many of you about what the Lord is preparing us for. The strongest symbol of the Beijing Olympics is the number eight, and the meaning of "palin" is the very meaning of that number.
Take this seriously. McCain-Palin is a serious sign. Most, saints included, will not let go of their carnal attachment to the political systems and will continue to set their hearts and hopes on mammon. Others see beyond it to the Lord's kingdom agenda.
More here. http://theopenscroll.com/olympicSymbolism4.htm
Bob Schlenker
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G-d says those who interpret omens are DETESTABLE to Him:
Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."
Claiming that the olympics (a satanic event) and any presidential candidate signifies anything is WICKED. Anyone who believes Bob Schlenker's omen interpretation is NOT a Christian.
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Bob Schlenker (19 Sep 2008)
"Olympic Sign - McCain-Palin"
Sarah Palin is among several elements of signs related to the signs discovered in the Olympic closing ceremonies.
Juneau is equivilent to Beijing, which means "northern capital."
In the Bible, Gesenius' Lexicon indicates that Hebrew word for "northern" implies "hidden or obscure." When Sarah was selected by John McCain to be his running mate, she was brought from the north, from obscurity.
Her name "Palin" is found in the Bible as the transliteration of a Greek word. This has the meaning of "anew, again" that, when joined to verbs of all kinds denotes renewal or repetition of the action. The campaign logo McCain-Palin is the symbol that will be most evident, so, applying the meaning of "palin," the result is "McCain anew." What then is McCain? Mc = "son of" Cain, as son of son of Eve. Son of Adam? Some say yes, but the evidence points rather to the serpent. In light of the Olympic signs, "son of Cain anew" is a coherent match and one that should speak to many of you about what the Lord is preparing us for. The strongest symbol of the Beijing Olympics is the number eight, and the meaning of "palin" is the very meaning of that number.
Take this seriously. McCain-Palin is a serious sign. Most, saints included, will not let go of their carnal attachment to the political systems and will continue to set their hearts and hopes on mammon. Others see beyond it to the Lord's kingdom agenda.
More here. http://theopenscroll.com/olympicSymbolism4.htm
Bob Schlenker
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Sharon Gilbert - Another wicked false prophet
Believes her omens "prove" the rapture will happen this month.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/sharong919.htm
Sharon Gilbert (19 Sep 2008)
"Two Weeks, Maybe Three"
I was sitting last week in Starbucks with my 82-year-old Aunt Helene who had just lost her husband, my uncle (he died in a nursing home). She said she was really in a spin since she had just lost her sister (my mother) two months prior.
My mother had lived with Helene in the same assisted living facility.My reply to Helene was that she was really going to be in a spin by the end of the month when He (Christ) brings them all back! My aunt is used to me predicting the rapture, but still she looked hopeful!
Just a couple days ago, I saw my Aunt Helene again, it was two days after her husband's (my Uncle Hank's) funeral. Helene wanted me to look at the bracelet that her two daughters gave her at the funeral on Monday, 9-15. It has engraved on it "Two Weeks, Maybe Three". They engraved that phrase because of their dad's optimism about a certain financial investment that he made that didn't pan out. He repeatedly used this phrase regarding this investment. On the back they engraved his initials with the phrase, "the Eternal Optimist".
When I saw her bracelet, my jaw dropped. It was like a message from God. She received the bracelet exactly two weeks before this coming Rosh Hoshanah. I told her about the coincidence with the projected rapture timing and we both commented that the subtlety of the double meaning is just like something God might come up with. My Uncle Hank may just be back in a couple of weeks! (Actually its closer to about 10 days now.)
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Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/sharong919.htm
Sharon Gilbert (19 Sep 2008)
"Two Weeks, Maybe Three"
I was sitting last week in Starbucks with my 82-year-old Aunt Helene who had just lost her husband, my uncle (he died in a nursing home). She said she was really in a spin since she had just lost her sister (my mother) two months prior.
My mother had lived with Helene in the same assisted living facility.My reply to Helene was that she was really going to be in a spin by the end of the month when He (Christ) brings them all back! My aunt is used to me predicting the rapture, but still she looked hopeful!
Just a couple days ago, I saw my Aunt Helene again, it was two days after her husband's (my Uncle Hank's) funeral. Helene wanted me to look at the bracelet that her two daughters gave her at the funeral on Monday, 9-15. It has engraved on it "Two Weeks, Maybe Three". They engraved that phrase because of their dad's optimism about a certain financial investment that he made that didn't pan out. He repeatedly used this phrase regarding this investment. On the back they engraved his initials with the phrase, "the Eternal Optimist".
When I saw her bracelet, my jaw dropped. It was like a message from God. She received the bracelet exactly two weeks before this coming Rosh Hoshanah. I told her about the coincidence with the projected rapture timing and we both commented that the subtlety of the double meaning is just like something God might come up with. My Uncle Hank may just be back in a couple of weeks! (Actually its closer to about 10 days now.)
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What does G-d say about interpreting omens?
Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."
Tuesday, September 16, 2008
David Campbell - interprets omens disregarding G-d's word
One of the five demons false prophets claims that the economy difficulties is a sign the rapture will happen this Rosh Hashanah. G-d says whoever interprets omens is detestable to Him
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/davidc916.htm
David Campbell (16 Sep 2008)
"A ROSH HASHANAH, 2008 RAPTURE? ARE YOU WATCHING?"
Doves,
Is it a coincidence the collapse of the world economy is lining up with Rosh Hashanah (Sundown, September 29 - Sundown, October 1) this year?
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Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/davidc916.htm
David Campbell (16 Sep 2008)
"A ROSH HASHANAH, 2008 RAPTURE? ARE YOU WATCHING?"
Doves,
Is it a coincidence the collapse of the world economy is lining up with Rosh Hashanah (Sundown, September 29 - Sundown, October 1) this year?
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Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."
Saturday, September 13, 2008
The five demons ("doves") interprets omens - which G-d calls detestable
An example of interpreting omens is seeing numbers or certain license plates and saying they mean something. Another example of interpreting omens is claiming if an earthquake happens in a certain location (ie: Ascension Islands, christmas island, or easter island) then it means something will happen - such as the rapture happening because an earthquake happened near the Ascension Island (which, by the way, is a fairly common occurance) or something will happen near christmas or easter if something happens near those islands (both christmass and easter are satanic holy days and have nothing to do with Messiah Yeshua - check it out FOR YOURSELF - don't listen to the false "pastors" or teachers)
Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."
Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."
Saturday, September 6, 2008
false prophet / numerologist Bob Ware makes up his own numbers
So just what significance does John McCain's age on inaguration day have? And since all the false prophets claim the rapture will be before the election, why is all the time being wasted to figure out garbage like this?
The satanist owner of the five demons ("doves") site John Tng claims "biblical numerology" is not included in G-d's prohibition against numerology (which is a lie by John Tng - G-d prohibits ALL numerology) and yet Bob Ware is not even using "biblical numbers" to conjure up his dates and predictions - yet John Tng continues to post his unbiblical (and always wrong) numerology predictions. Why is this???
Anyone who believes Bob Ware's numerology is not a Christian.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/bobware96.htm
Bob Ware (6 Sep 2008)"John McCain's age on Inauguration Day will be 113 x 234 days"
Lamech was 113 when Enoch was taken.113 people died in the only crash of the Concorde.John McCain's age is a constant topic in the news.
On 20 January 2009 (Inauguration Day) John McCain will be 113 x 234 days old.
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14 August 2008 was 92 prophetic years since General Allenby took Jerusalem (gematria = 864).The 92nd prime number is the center of the 'Prime Cube'.The 92nd element is Uranium.8128 is the 2nd perfect number and equals 5760 + 2368 (gematria of 'JESUS CHRIST').
Sarah Louise Heath Palin was born on 11 February 1964.
On 14 August 2008 she was 2 x 8128 days old.
15 days later on 29 August 2008 John McCain announced that Sarah Palin was his running mate.
On 29 August 2008 she was 144 x 113 inclusive days old.
On 20 January 2009 (Inauguration Day) she will be 19 x 864 inclusive days old.
On 7 September 2008 she will be 11 x 1480 (gematria of 'CHRIST') days old.
On 21 October 2008 she will be 7 x 2332 (Hebrew roster number for 'EVE') days old.
The prime number gematria of 'CHRIST' is 419.419 x 666 = the sum of all 305 prime numbers of the entire 'Prime List'.
On 7 November 2008 she will be 39 x 419 days old.
On 7 December 2008 (67th anniversary of Pearl Harbor) she will be 153 x 107 (rapture number) days old.
On 16 December 2008 she will be: 70 x 234 days old = 13 x 1260 days.
On 21 December 2008 (the Winter Solstice) she will be 145 x 113 days old.
713 is the prime number gematria of 'JESUS CHRIST'.
On 4 January 2009 she will be 23 x 713 days old.
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The satanist owner of the five demons ("doves") site John Tng claims "biblical numerology" is not included in G-d's prohibition against numerology (which is a lie by John Tng - G-d prohibits ALL numerology) and yet Bob Ware is not even using "biblical numbers" to conjure up his dates and predictions - yet John Tng continues to post his unbiblical (and always wrong) numerology predictions. Why is this???
Anyone who believes Bob Ware's numerology is not a Christian.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/bobware96.htm
Bob Ware (6 Sep 2008)"John McCain's age on Inauguration Day will be 113 x 234 days"
Lamech was 113 when Enoch was taken.113 people died in the only crash of the Concorde.John McCain's age is a constant topic in the news.
On 20 January 2009 (Inauguration Day) John McCain will be 113 x 234 days old.
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14 August 2008 was 92 prophetic years since General Allenby took Jerusalem (gematria = 864).The 92nd prime number is the center of the 'Prime Cube'.The 92nd element is Uranium.8128 is the 2nd perfect number and equals 5760 + 2368 (gematria of 'JESUS CHRIST').
Sarah Louise Heath Palin was born on 11 February 1964.
On 14 August 2008 she was 2 x 8128 days old.
15 days later on 29 August 2008 John McCain announced that Sarah Palin was his running mate.
On 29 August 2008 she was 144 x 113 inclusive days old.
On 20 January 2009 (Inauguration Day) she will be 19 x 864 inclusive days old.
On 7 September 2008 she will be 11 x 1480 (gematria of 'CHRIST') days old.
On 21 October 2008 she will be 7 x 2332 (Hebrew roster number for 'EVE') days old.
The prime number gematria of 'CHRIST' is 419.419 x 666 = the sum of all 305 prime numbers of the entire 'Prime List'.
On 7 November 2008 she will be 39 x 419 days old.
On 7 December 2008 (67th anniversary of Pearl Harbor) she will be 153 x 107 (rapture number) days old.
On 16 December 2008 she will be: 70 x 234 days old = 13 x 1260 days.
On 21 December 2008 (the Winter Solstice) she will be 145 x 113 days old.
713 is the prime number gematria of 'JESUS CHRIST'.
On 4 January 2009 she will be 23 x 713 days old.
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false prophet Clay Cantrell uses Strongs numbers / numerology to predict the rapture
I cannot believe anyone would believe any of the proven false prophets let alone those who use numerology (which G-d calls an abomination) to predict the future. Yet the five demons ("doves") site - which (untruthfully) claims to be a Christian site continues to post this satanic garbage.
Anyone who believes false prophet Clay Cantrell is not a Christian.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/clay96.htm
Clay Cantrell (6 Sep 2008)"October 1, Feast of Trumpets, 8990, Strong's 339 g = 889, the Dead "Sit Up"."
Interested Readers -
this October 1 is apparently one of the two days for the Feast of Trumpets -
http://www.hebcal.com/holidays/
what interests me about this date, in leap year (which 2008 is) is the day number total for it.
the total of all day numbers for October from day 275 (oct 1) through the end of the month =
8990
899 x 10 = 8990
this number 899 has been known to me for quite a while.
899 is the gematria of Strong's greek word 339g
anakathizo {an-ak-ath-id'-zo}
definition:
1) to raise one's self and sit upright, to sit up, erect
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this would hardly seem to make it notable except for the fact that it is only used twice in the NT and both times it's use is in an account of someone being raised from the dead.
in Luke 7:15 the Lord Jesus raises from the dead the only son of the widow of Nain (Beautiful).
Luke 7:15 "And he that was dead SAT UP, and began to speak. And he delivered him to his mother."
also
in Acts 9:40, Peter prays over the dead body of Dorcas (in the town of Joppa: Beautiful), and God raises her from the dead -
Acts 9:40 "But Peter put them all forth, and kneeled down and prayed; and turning him to the body said, Tabitha, arise. And she opened her eyes: and when she saw Peter, she SAT UP."
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Rosh Hashanah, the Feast of Trumpets, seems to be known by many names, one of them being The day of the resurrection of the dead.
the alignment this year of this feast day(s) with day 275, and the 899 x 10 total seems notable.
you can go here:
http://bibleprophesy.org/trumpets.htm
for an interesting teaching on it, as well as the other names it is known by.
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Anyone who believes false prophet Clay Cantrell is not a Christian.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/clay96.htm
Clay Cantrell (6 Sep 2008)"October 1, Feast of Trumpets, 8990, Strong's 339 g = 889, the Dead "Sit Up"."
Interested Readers -
this October 1 is apparently one of the two days for the Feast of Trumpets -
http://www.hebcal.com/holidays/
what interests me about this date, in leap year (which 2008 is) is the day number total for it.
the total of all day numbers for October from day 275 (oct 1) through the end of the month =
8990
899 x 10 = 8990
this number 899 has been known to me for quite a while.
899 is the gematria of Strong's greek word 339g
anakathizo {an-ak-ath-id'-zo}
definition:
1) to raise one's self and sit upright, to sit up, erect
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this would hardly seem to make it notable except for the fact that it is only used twice in the NT and both times it's use is in an account of someone being raised from the dead.
in Luke 7:15 the Lord Jesus raises from the dead the only son of the widow of Nain (Beautiful).
Luke 7:15 "And he that was dead SAT UP, and began to speak. And he delivered him to his mother."
also
in Acts 9:40, Peter prays over the dead body of Dorcas (in the town of Joppa: Beautiful), and God raises her from the dead -
Acts 9:40 "But Peter put them all forth, and kneeled down and prayed; and turning him to the body said, Tabitha, arise. And she opened her eyes: and when she saw Peter, she SAT UP."
*****
Rosh Hashanah, the Feast of Trumpets, seems to be known by many names, one of them being The day of the resurrection of the dead.
the alignment this year of this feast day(s) with day 275, and the 899 x 10 total seems notable.
you can go here:
http://bibleprophesy.org/trumpets.htm
for an interesting teaching on it, as well as the other names it is known by.
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Friday, September 5, 2008
false prophet phil and his boatyard false prophecies
I cannot believe anyone would believe this garbage let alone post it on a site that claims to be Christian. If the discernment is this poor, it's no wonder this country is in such bad shape.
If this doesn't show the five demons ("doves") as being a box of fruit loops, I don't know what will.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/phil95.htm
Phil (5 Sep 2008)"Rapture Boat update"
John and Doves, Driving past the boatyard today I noticed that the yacht named 'ESCAPEE' had 'gone'. Well it wasn't in its usual place. It may be somewhere else in the boatyard but it is not where it was. I first noticed these three boats (yachts) on 5/8/2008 ESCAPEE went 'missing' on 9/4/2008 The day gap is 119 days or 911 reversed. 119 days is 17 weeks.ie 17 x 7. 17 is 10 + 7. From 9/4/2008 to 9/11/2008 is 7 days. ie 7 days to the 7th anniversary of 9/11/2001 Keep watching. Blessings, Phil.
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If this doesn't show the five demons ("doves") as being a box of fruit loops, I don't know what will.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/phil95.htm
Phil (5 Sep 2008)"Rapture Boat update"
John and Doves, Driving past the boatyard today I noticed that the yacht named 'ESCAPEE' had 'gone'. Well it wasn't in its usual place. It may be somewhere else in the boatyard but it is not where it was. I first noticed these three boats (yachts) on 5/8/2008 ESCAPEE went 'missing' on 9/4/2008 The day gap is 119 days or 911 reversed. 119 days is 17 weeks.ie 17 x 7. 17 is 10 + 7. From 9/4/2008 to 9/11/2008 is 7 days. ie 7 days to the 7th anniversary of 9/11/2001 Keep watching. Blessings, Phil.
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