pagan Gary Newman consults false christian-pretender false prophet numerologists.

God forbids numerology which is defined as:

 nu·mer·ol·o·gy 
-------the study of numbers, as the figures designating the year of one's birth, to determine their supposed influence on one's life, future, etc.

 Yet pagan Gary Newman is consulting the false prophets that masquerade as Christians on the five demons ("doves") web site asking the meaning of the number 8887 which he saw on a login counter on a web site.  Obviously the meaning of the number is that he was the 8887 visitor although he seems to think there is a "message from God" in the number.  Numerology is forbidden by God yet it is acceptable on the five demons ("doves") web site meaning the five demons ("doves") web site is a site of false prophets.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2010/garyn1224.htm


Gary Newman (24 Dec 2010)
"Query for the numerists"

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Hi Doves;

While trying to view the lunar eclipse online, I got onto
a site which actually wasn't showing the live event.
I wasn't going to post this thinking it rather trivial, but
I am really bothered that I really need to what a number
means. The number was the number of people logged
into the site.

The number was: 8887

I would value your thoughts on the meaning of this
number.

Maranatha

Gary

Five Demons ("doves") will post any false prophecy from any false prophet - here is PROOF!

The five demons ("doves") web site is full of false prophets and false prophecies.  All of them are unrepentant when their prophecies fail and even blame God for their failure.

Here is a blatantly false prophecy that the five demons ("doves") web site owner, John Tng, has no problem posting.  It is somebody who claims God speaks to her through numbers on a clock.

Nowhere in the bible does God give someone a message that is not explained to them if it is not clear.  God has not spoken to this person.  They are just guilty of staring at a clock and claiming the numbers on the clock were a secret message given to them by God.

Anyone who believes this false prophet and their false prophecies deserves to be deceived.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2010/danab1223.htm



Dana Babka (23 Dec 2010)
"More clock numbers from the Lord."

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Hi Doves, the Lord gave me more numbers from my clock on the 21st.  So here they are , 2:/5 7   2:/5/8  2:/5/9 ,  (3:00)  (3:01) ,   3:/02  3:/03  3:/04  , (3:/05) (3:06) (3:07) (3:08) (3:09) (3:10) (3:11),      3:/1/2 ,     (3:13) (3:14) (3:15) (3:16) (3:17) (3:18) (3:19),    3:/20  3:/21  3:/22  3:/23  3:/24  3:/25  3:/26  3:/27  (3:28)  (3:29) (3:30)      3:/3/1  .  After grouping the times and prayer,counting them and going to a few web sites on biblical numbers, I believe this is what the Lord was telling me. That the resurrection of the dead in Christ, and the unity of the Church believers, will be with our loving Jesus.  The believers will be separated  and removed from the weakness of man, the World Government, Antichrist, and the Great Tribulation. The two witnesses will give testimony of Jesus to the Jews and to those who will listen, and they will be able to find salvation in Jesus Christ. At the end of the Tribulation the sin in the world will end, and complete victory will belong to the Lord.  The very first number the Lord gave to me was 2:/5 7 . Notice 25 which I believe is confirming the postings of 16th and the 20th, there is also the number 7.  I believe that something significant will take place on the 25th or before, and the Rapture is at the top of the list.  Keep looking up, praise the Lord.              Dana.

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False Prophet ron reese admits to being a false prophet - yet continues his false prophecies

False prophet ron reese continues to spew false prophecies and claims his "fleece" of a UPS truck in his driveway (when he was expecting a UPS delivery) is a "sign" the rapture will occur in 2010.  This is the same false prophet who claimed God confirmed to him that the rapture was going to be on January 11, 2009 while claiming that we were in the tribulation. http://falseprophetwatch.blogspot.com/2009/03/false-prophet-ron-reese-is-back.html

I am simply tired of being slammed heavily for suggested possible time frames, that do not pan out.  Having said that, I am extremely excited about a date in the very near future--the date of Dec. 21, 2010.  I have to share this with someone

False prophet ron reese still has a following after years and years of being a false prophet.  The question I ask:  Lord, how long will the people who claim to be yours follow the false prophets?


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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2010/ronr127.htm
Ron Reese (7 Dec 2010)
"My last 2010 attempt at the Rapture/Sudden Destruction Date--Dec. 21, 2010"

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A MESSAGE FROM THE HEART


Hi Fellow Watchmen,  This email is only going to a VERY SELECT FEW, perhaps one or two dozen people.  The reason is that I am simply tired of being slammed heavily for suggested possible time frames, that do not pan out.  Having said that, I am extremely excited about a date in the very near future--the date of Dec. 21, 2010.  I have to share this with someone.

The day of Tues., Nov. 30th, I was crying out to the Lord, "How long, oh Lord, how long?"  I seldom ask the Lord this because I start thinking, "Who am I, that the Lord should reveal the answer to the question of the ages?"  And also, I am afraid of incorrectly discerning what He might be telling me, so I rarely ask the Lord this question directly.  Having said that, I honestly feel in my heart, that He MAY be giving me the answer.

First of all, I threw out a fleece to the Lord in the early summer of this year, that if the Rapture/SD was going to be in 2010, then have the UPS delivery truck drive into my driveway, at the same moment in time that I was departing from my home, or the same moment in time that I was to be returning home.  50,000 "business" cards, with my website and Sudden Destruction info on them, had just been printed at no cost to me and were being shipped to me free.  I expected them either to arrive on Friday or Saturday.  This was on a Friday, when I had three to four hours of errands to run in Jackson, Michigan, about 20 miles away.  I never receive anything from UPS.  I had no idea of their schedule.  I was not even sure that Friday was the day of the delivery of these cards.

I left for town around 10 in the morning.  No UPS delivery truck.  I totally forgot about my fleece to the Lord.  I had a couple of loads in my car to unload when I got back home a few hours later in the afternoon.  I took the first load, and set it inside the door of my house, and turned around to go back to my car, when, lo, and behold, a UPS delivery truck was driving up my driveway!!!  I have only thrown out fleeces a handful of times in my life, and those are for MAJOR reasons, and the Lord has honored every single one.  I WAS TOTALLY AMAZED, AS I WATCHED THAT UPS TRUCK DRIVING UP THE DRIVEWAY.  I HONESTLY FELT, AND STILL FEEL, THAT THE LORD WAS TELLING ME THAT 2010 IS THE YEAR!!!!!!

Now along comes Nov. 30th of 2010, and still no Rapture/Sudden Destruction.  All day long, my heart was crying out to the Lord, "How long, oh Lord, how long?"  Knowing that Hanukkah was Dec. 2nd thru the 9th, and the prophetic implications of this Jewish holiday, I was considering this possibility, but not really feeling confident about this time frame.  The days for 2010 are running out.  What other time could it be in December?

I had been feeling the presence of the Holy Spirit that day of Nov. 30th.  I do not usually watch a lot of Christian TV programs, but that night I was feeling that I should.  At the end of Dr. Reagan's Prophecy program, he had a man sing my all-time favorite Christian song, entitled, "The Midnight Cry".  I had not heard that song for a few years, and tears started flowing down my face.  As I closed my eyes and visualized the Rapture, that was being described in great detail, in that song, the tears became uncontrollable.  I went to bed a few minutes later, with the presence and the comfort of the Holy Spirit still laying heavily upon me.

I awoke for the first time that morning of Dec. 1st, a few hours after my weeping encounter with God, at 5:43 a.m.  I immediately wondered if the Lord was trying to get my attention, with those numbers, because just hours before, I had been crying out to the Lord, "How long, oh Lord, how long?"  My first thought was that maybe this was some sort of a countdown of 5--4--3..  All day long, on Dec. 1st, I was asking the Lord, if this is a countdown, and an answer to my prayer of "How long?", then are we talking years, months, weeks, or days?  I did not receive any answers.

The next morning, Dec. 2nd, I AGAIN woke for the first time from a very sound sleep, for no apparent reason, at EXACTLY 5:43 A.M, THE EXACT SAME TIME.   NOW THE LORD DEFINITELY HAD MY ATTENTION!!!  5..4..3..  For the next two days, I was trying to discern, that if this double reading of 5..4..3.. is from the Lord, and is a countdown, what is the starting time of the countdown, and is it years, months, weeks, or days?

If it is years, then I feel the countdown started in 2008, the year of the start of the Final 7 Years, and the year that the Lord began to deal with me with revelations, and supernatural confirmations, unlike anything that I have ever experienced.   FIVE (2008)  FOUR (2009)  THREE (2010)  TWO (2011) AND ONE, THE FINAL YEAR WOULD BE 2012.  April 11, 2012, is the beginning of the 1260-day Great Tribulation, and the latest that the Rapture/Sudden Destruction will take place, in my opinion.  However, this would mean that my fleece concerning 2010 being the correct year of the Rapture is not valid, and the 2 Years into the Famine Week of Joseph in Gen. 45 also is not valid.  I am not willing to accept either at this point.

If it is months, then I feel the countdown started either in Sept., the start of the Fall Feast Days and the Jewish New Year, or Oct., the month of the Noah and the Great Flood days.  This would mean the countdown of 5..4..3.. in months, would take us to either Jan. or Feb., of 2011.  Another possibility is that the month countdown could have started on Dec. 1st, the day that I first awakened at 5:43.  This would take us to April of 2011, into the Spring Feast Days.  This also would mean that my fleece concerning 2010 being the correct year is not valid.  I feel that the 2 Years into the Famine Week of Joseph in Gen. 45, would still be valid during any of these months.

If it is in days, then the five-day countdown is about over, as I write this email, with one day to go.  Tomorrow, Dec. 5th is a new moon, and is right in the middle of Hanukkah, just like Jesus represents the middle candlestick in the Menorrah.  The Rapture/SD could be tomorrow, but I do not feel this is what the Lord is showing to me.

That leaves only weeks, for the last possibility.  One possibility is that Dec. 1st is the start of a five-week countdown, which could culminate with the Rapture/SD in the first week of January, 2011.  I am amazed that the first sighting on my clock of  5..4..3.. was on Dec. 1st, as this is the EXACT TWO-YEAR anniversary date, that my perfectly good watch stopped for five minutes at 11 minutes to 7, on Dec. 1, 2008.  This is another good reason why I feel this MAY be from the Lord.

If this is a weekly countdown, I believe it is a 3-week countdown, not a 5-week countdown.  I believe the 5..4..3.. means that as of Dec. 1, 2010, we may have just started a three-week countdown, which could culminate in the Rapture/Sudden Destruction, that we all have been anxiously anticipating, for so very long.  I believe in my spirit, that DEC. 21, 2010, IS A DEFINITE HIGH RAPTURE ALERT DAY!!!  Please consider the following:

I had already known that Dec. 21, 2010, is the winter solistice, and a full moon, and A TOTAL LUNAR ECLIPSE.  Today I remembered that Dec. 21, 2012, is the much-talked-about Mayan calendar date, which would make Dec. 21, 2010, EXACTLY two years away.  I almost always get a good night's sleep, but last night, I was tossing and turning, and seeking the Lord again for confirmation of Dec. 21, 2010, as possibly being the correct day.  The thought suddenly hit me that we should be looking for possible Sudden Destruction days, as this will be the same day as the Rapture.  Then I remembered Thomas Horn's book,  "Apollyon Rising 2012", that I had read earlier this year.  This is an eye-opening, and very enlightening book, on the year 2012, and how EVERYTHING is pointing to that year.

What I began to contemplate in the middle of last night, was that this was going to be a PLANNED Sudden Destruction, by the Satanic New World Order elite, and that undoubtedly the DAY of this Planned Sudden Destruction would have occultic significance. I was tossing numbers around in my head for about an hour.  I am extremely excited at what I came up with.  Already we can determine that if 12--21--2010 is the date of the Rapture/Sudden Destruction, then it could be very significant that the NWO elite would choose the same day of the year, Dec. 21st, that is being projected as a day of great calamity on the earth, Dec. 21, 2012.

Also, consider the following:  12--21--2010, is written 12--21--21 in Bible numbers, as zeroes are not included.  In most countries, the day is written first, then the month, then the year, which would make Dec. 21, 2010, read 21--12--21.  Notice the symmetry, but also take careful note of this.  The first two numbers add to 33.  The last two numbers add to 33.  So, we have 3333 or 33.33.  Please consider carefully what Thomas Horn writes in his Prophecy book of the year.  On page 324, he states, "33.33 IS THE ULTIMATE NUMBER OF EARTHLY LUCIFERIAN GOVERNMENT."

So, obviously there are not 33 days in any month, or 33 months in any year.  So, they cannot choose a day for their PLANNED Sudden Destruction, using the number 33 or 33.33 directly.  12--21--2010 would seem like their best alternative.  IS 12--21--2010 THE DAY OF THE PLANNED SUDDEN DESTRUCTION BY THE NEW WORLD ORDER ELITE???  IS THIS THE DAY THE WORLDWIDE CHAOS LEADS TO THE EARTHLY LUCIFERIAN GOVERNMENT???  I would like to remind you that the Millennium is scheduled to begin in December, of 2015, which is FIVE YEARS FROM NOW.  Is this the day of our Great Deliverance that is mentioned in Gen. 45, when Joseph (Jesus) make himself known to his brethren?  The Great Revealing and the Great Deliverance take place TWO YEARS INTO THE FAMINE WEEK, WITH FIVE YEARS YET REMAINING IN THE FAMINE WEEK.

I threw out another fleece this morning to the Lord, asking that there be a new email in my inbox, referring to the number 21, if the Rapture/SD is going to take place on Dec. 21, 2010.  I was once again amazed, as there were only six or seven new emails, since I had checked late last night.  In my inbox, was a new email, from Calvin Montgomery, entitled, "Darkness, and the number 21" (emphasis mine).  What are the odds that this could be a coincidence?  If Dec. 21, 2010, is the time of the Sudden Destruction/Rapture, it will truly be a very, very dark day for humanity, possibly represented by the total lunar eclipse on the very same day, as well as the darkness of the catastrophic Sudden Destruction.  Suddenly, it dawned on me that the 5..4..3.. should be followed by a 2 and a 1, 2..1.  There it is again, the number 21, possibly representing the 21st of December, 2010.

Here is what Ed Vallowe says in his book, "Biblical Mathematics", "THE NUMBER 21 ALWAYS REVEALS THE EXCEEDING SINFULNESS OF MAN."  WOW!!!  How extremely appropriate this could be, as the exceeding sinfulness of the NWO elite would be revealed in the Sudden Destruction of unparalled magnitude, on the 21st day of December, 2010, the very same day of the year when the whole world is expecting something extremely significant and destructive EXACTLY two years later on Dec. 21, 2012.

12/21/2010 is also on a Tuesday, the day of the week that the bridegroom comes for the bride.  I trust that you can see why the conclusion of this email can be none other than DECEMBER 21, 2010, IS A HIGH RAPTURE/SUDDEN DESTRUCTION ALERT DAY!!!

I have not yet decided if I want to post this email on Five Doves and to my entire mailing list.  I am seeking your reaction and input, positive or negative.  I am also seeking any more info, or input, that might be leading us to Dec. 21, 2010.  I am requesting that this email not be forwarded, unless I decide to post it.

I am still not sure if the Lord wants us to be able to determine the exact day, or just the approximate time frame.  If we are able to discern the actual day, at this point in time, in my opinion, Dec. 21, 2010, is the most likely time.

Maranatha!

Ron Reese
rgreese49@aol.com

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According to a five demons ("doves") false prophet, people become angels when they die

Nowhere in scripture does it state that humans become angels, let alone guardian angels, when they die.  Yet false prophets post this on the five demons ("doves") web site and not one of the other false prophets / false teachers questions it.  False prophet "Mary Anna" believes her deceased grandmother is her guardian angel.

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2010/maryas1030.htm


Mary Anna (30 Oct 2010)
"Grandma...."

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   Peace:  I don't know how anybody feels about this and I really don't know how I do too so I'm writing.  Yesterday I sent the wrong scripture to "Study to show yourselves approved to God....."  It was about my grandmother who loved this scripture.  The correction came to me long after I'd forgotten about it but couldn't get it off my mind so I looked again at what I'd sent and it was wrong.  I gave credit to my guardian angel for having me correct it.   I wondered if my guardian angel is someone I knew in life. 

  Grandmother was 83 when she died and looked every bit of it.  In death she looked as a beautiful young girl.  It definitely did not look like Grandma, my Dad's mother.  I told him to please take a picture of her since we won't know her in Heaven.  He didn't, saying she'll know us.  There was no resemblance in this beautiful young girl to an 83 year old.  

   OK, what's my point?  We all know we'll receive new bodies in heaven.  Is it possible, since my error in scripture was about Grandma, that she's my guardian angel?

  In life Grandma was always trying to get people saved but earlier in life, as a young widow with 2 bucks of teenage sons (one, my dad) and a young daughter, that she lost due to an automobile accident at age 8, on Sundays she preached at 3 Va. churches with no licence to either drive or preach..  I remember her as I was growing up as her  attending these loud Pentecostal hallelujah type prayer meetings I laughed at. 

   I hated when Grandma came to visit us because that meant we would all have to get down on our knees in the living room and pray aloud before we went to bed, that is, if we didn't get away in time before it was time to pray.  I always made myself scarce then.  I'm named for my grandmother Anna.  Could it be her who kept on me yesterday to correct the scripture?  (It was her story!)  I wonder!!!! 

Mary Anna

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The "god" of the False Prophets at the five "doves" web site

The false "god" of the five demons ("doves") web site gives them "clues" so they can GUESS the rapture date from those "cues"

One of the false prophets sees a licence plate with a 911 on it so they claim it is a "Clue from god" that the rapture will be on 9-11

Another false prophet makes a claim they looked at the clock and it was 11:11 so that is a "message from god"

In the bible, When Daniel had dreams and visions, an angel was sent to explain the meaning.  When Daniel or Joseph was asked to interpret dreams and visions for the king, they fasted and prayed until God gave them the clear meaning of the dream.

Nowhere in the bible does God give "clues" in order for someone to come up with an explanation.  When God gives signs, He is faithful to interpret the sign or has someone interpret the meaning of the sign for the one it was given to.

Failed prophecies means these people are not prophets of God.  They are false wicked prophets that are deceiving people.

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Deleted Links on five "doves"

because the five demons ("doves") does not want you to see their repeated failed prophecies, they have deleted most of their previous years of posts.  If you want to see the original, you can go to this site.  Eventually they will have every days posts available:

Way Back Machine.

False prophet Debbie Peters cries about her idiols being destroyed

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God said to NEVER make an image of Him. This includes images of Yeshua (Jesus) yet one of the five demons ("doves") is crying and saddened because her idols were destroyed.

I have not posted much about the five demons ("doves") false prophets recently because I would be spending hours a day exposing their antichrist agenda / satanism.

Anyone with any discernment would see that the five doves (spelling it out correctly for the search engines) is satanic, wicked, full of false prophets, and is condemned by God.

Maybe the five demons ("doves") == islams "five pillars. The five pillars of the false prophets??? Some of the false prophets even promote white supremist / neo nazi youtube videos.

I am glad the idolatry was removed.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2010/debbiep617.htm

Debbie Peters (17 June 2010)
"Three Christ Statues Vandalized"

This vandalism took place at a cemetery near my home in April.

The recent posts of a Jesus statue being hit by lightening reminded me of our community's tragic loss.

These statues were hand crafted in Italy 50 years ago.

It was so sad to see that these beautiful statues had been removed when I took flowers to my loved ones on Memorial Day. I had enjoyed them since I was a child. They brought such peace and comfort!

I wonder what will become of the exquisite statues, and other Christian art depicting the live of Jesus after the Rapture?

Surely, the Anti-Christ will order everything to be destroyed.

YSIC,

Debbie

Three Christ statues vandalized at Sandy cemetery
By Sheena McFarland
The Salt Lake Tribune
Updated: 04/12/2010 06:33:51 PM MDT

Three statues of Jesus Christ were vandalized in Sandy over the weekend, and police are looking for suspects.
Two of the statues at Larkin Sunset Gardens cemetery, at 1950 E. 10600 South in Sandy, were decapitated and a third had a large chunk of marble taken out of the neck and chin.
"We're very concerned and disturbed that someone would do such a thing," said Rob Larkin, senior vice president of Larkin Mortuary and Cemeteries. "We are trying to find out who did it and move on from there."
The vandalism occurred between Saturday night and early Monday morning, when work crews discovered the vandalism.
The statues were put in place as each of the sections of the cemetery opened, and are about 50 years old. The owners did not have a value on the statues.
Anyone with any information is asked to call the Sandy Police Department at 801-568-7200.
smcfarland@sltrib.com
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obama's "five pillars" = islam's "five pillars" ???

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If anyone doubts obama is a muslim then do two google searches:

• obama five pillars
  
• islam five pillars

Do you have "five pillars" ???

Does most people have "five pillars" ???

Obviously obama knows about the five pillars of islam because he was raised muslim - so why would he use "five pillars" for his government structure if he wasn't a muslim???

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False prophet jim bramlett - now claims figs are "a sign"

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I cannot believe how unstable false prophet jim bramlett is in that he will believe anything / twist anything to make it into a "sign". He accepts other false prophets claims at face value - absolutely NO discernment. He takes something as common as a false prophet - or a made up story - claiming a fig tree producing figs to be a "sign from God".

Fig tree commonly produce two crops of figs a year - a spring crop and a summer crop. In mild winter areas when the temperature is warm, it is not uncommon for them to produce figs at other times during the year. False prophet jim bramlett is claiming he received an email from someone in south africa and that person is claiming figs are being produced on his tree in mid winter which never happened before.

If there was snow on the ground and this could be independently verified (jim bramlett has repeatedly made up angel visitation stories to sell his books and promote his web site) then that could possibly be considered a sign. Let's give theis false prophet the benefit of the doubt and accept his story of receiving this email at face value. The weather in south america is over 60F at 9PM. Ths type of weather will cause a fig tree to break dormancy and produce figs and put out leaves.

Use discernment. Don't accept stories and made up fables. This type of garbage is how false prophets gain a following.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2010/jim63.htm

Jim Bramlett (3 June 2010)
"Fig trees sprouting"

Dear friends:

Jesus said, “Look at the fig tree and all the trees. When they sprout leaves, you can see for yourselves and know that summer is near. Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that the kingdom of God is near "(Luke 21:29-31) .

Today I received an interesting e-mail from a friend in South Africa, who said:
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Hi Jim,
We have the most interesting phenomenon taking place in our garden right now. Usually, at this time of the year (winter now in S.A.) the fig trees are leafless. But for the first time ever since we have been here and it is now 30+ years that we have been living in this house, our garden's fig trees not only have leaves, but they are bearing fruit!!! And not just a few isolated figs, but many figs are developing to full maturity - we have even eaten some of them and they're good!

Makes me think of what Jesus taught about the Kingdom of God being at hand!!! Luke 21:29-36.

Me thinks I can hear the footsteps of the Master approaching!!!!

Maranatha!
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This is phenomenal.

Jim

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False prophet jim bramlett still spreading lies

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Nothing like a little fear mongering to amass a following. False prophets such as jim bramlett love to tell people smooth lies to tickle their ears. Who cares if they have any truth to them so long as it sounds good???

Now false prophet jim bramlett is claiming un vehicles are being stored in florida preparing to "haul us off" and posts another idiot false prophet's video to support the lies.

The facts:

Reynolds Airpark was an airforce base during WWII. It then became a public airport until it was closed and sold for development. It is now a business park operated by Clay County Port and they rent office space.

http://www.reynoldspark.com/land.html

Since they have land / sea / rail / air access, they have become a multi use facility. Some of their tennants repair rail cars and shipping containers, aircraft repair, fix and store yachts (fresh water storage) especially important during hurricanes. They also were / are a distribution center for KIA cars - the white vehicles in the picture (before they go off and are painted) The satellite coverage was before the Georgia plant opened and were importing cars before painted / distributed in the u.s. It's highly likely KIA is still a tenant and is where the vehicles are stored before being shipped off.

The vehicles in the satellite coverage are around 13' long - about the size of a standard car - far too small to be used as trailers to "haul people off" as false prophets / kooks are trying to scare people into thinking.

This is a typical SEA PORT that is in such a great location in that they have air access as well. You have a choice - to 1) look at the facts and check them for yourself or 2) believe the false prophets and all of their smooth sounding lies.

2 Timothy 4
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires,

4 and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.

The satellite coverage is january 3, 2008 (copyright 2010) Location can be found at: 29°58'25.04"N 81°39'45.91"W



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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/may2010/jim529-1.htm

Jim Bramlett (29 May 2010)
"LOOK AT THIS!!!! An old airstrip near Jacksonville, Florida"

> See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHGIShZ_ThA&feature=player_embedded#

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This is extremely curious, After you see the video, see photo below from Google Earth which confirms it.

What's going on? Are they preparing to haul us away? (I'll not go quietly!)

Jim

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The five demons ("doves") and other false so-called "christians" will help usher in the mark of the beast

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Most so-called "christians" (deceivers working for antichrist) support arizona's new immigration law. This will lead to the mark of the beast - something these false demon led "christians" are helping to force on the people --- while claiming to be againstthe mark of antichrist!

The arizona law will ultimately lead to travel papers for EVERYONE (just like in nazi germany and in socialist countries) Because these documents can be forged, there will need to be a way to identify everyone in order to prove their immigration / citizenship status. This will lead to a microchip being implanted in either the right hand or forehead.

Everyone who loves their freedom will oppose any law which will require them to carry their identification papers. Those who support the arizona law supports being implanted with a microchip to "keep the illegals out". Just because you support the constitution and the rights against illegal search does not mean you support amnesty for all undocumented workers who are in the united states illegally.

Most mexicans are here to support their families and better their lives. Most are hard workers. I would rather have illegal mexican neighbors who have jobs and pay taxes than have illegal muslim terrorists that are here to destroy america from within (not all muslims - many are here to improve their lives and help their families - I specifically stated muslim terrorists) yet most approve the arizona law knowing it would not be politically correct to inquire of a muslim's citizenship so nobody ever will - and the only ones that will ever be asked are hispanic in spite of the "non racial profiling" clause in the law.

Why is it people are against the "illegal" mexicans and are saying nothing about the "illegal" aliens from other countries??? This is pure racism - especially when a british citizen who has been here illegally for ten years and they have never been asked to prove citizenship - and it would be doubtful they would be asked even in arizona yet any hispanic that is tenth generation united states citizen will need to prove their citizenship just because a police officer "suspects" they may not be in the united states legally??? During world war 2, the Jewish people (and other groups) were marked - and now you are having the same thing happen in amerika - and so-called [pretend] "christians are supporting it!

Here is one example of an evil false "christian" who is working for antichrist and to tear freedoms away from americans. Apparently, if these figures are correct, 86% of amerikans will support the mark of the beast.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/may2010/ginam522-1.htm

Gina McCray (22 May 2010)
"WHY OBAMA IS WILLING TO OPPOSE 86% of AMERICANS WHO ARE IN FAVOR OF THE ARIZONA LAW !"

Sharing a recent blog entry that shows why Obama is opposing the majority of Americans polled!
http://theworldisshaking.blogspot.com/2010/05/why-obama-is-willing-to-oppose-86-of.html

BLESSINGS!

Gina

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Narcissist false prophet 'Jen' thinks she's special

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If someone has been in the navy for 18 years, then obviously they know they can be deployed and are willing to serve wherever called - otherwise they should have chosen a different career.

If they are a "Christian family and strongly believe in parenting core values" then they should never have become a military family and/or should have gotten out after the latest conflict started.

The government does not want to "split their family apart" - they want to send a trained military person to the conflict in Afghanistan in accordance with the employment contract they have with him. Why does false prophet 'Jen' think her family is any more special than the thousands of others tat have been deployed overseas??? Why does she think her husband should be immune from being deployed???

Getting out of an employment contract is not Christian. I am praying this man is deployed and temporarily seperated from the false prophet (his wife) in order that he may find real salvation.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2010/jen312-3.htm

Jen (12 March 2010)
"URGENT PRAYER REQUEST NEEDED"

Please pray for my husband Steve who has been in the US Navy for 18 years? He just called for orders and the Navy wants to send him to Afganastain for TWO YEARS. We are watchers just like the rest of you all in waiting for the Lords return. We know what is coming down the line, and I don't want him over in Afganastain at this time. I have two children (little ones) who need their father, we are a Christian family and STRONGLY BELIEVE IN PARENTING CORE VALUES. The Government wants to split our family apart, and my husband is the only family I have. We have no other family. Please pray and ask the Lord to step in and Bless Steve with staying on the East Coast? I have been praying alllll day since I found out. I need all the prayers I can get. Thank you all and God Bless every one of you who don't even know me and are willing to pray on my husbands behalf. YSIC Jen

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A post I made on yahoo regarding evolution

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The evolution theory disproves itself making it junk science.

If a cell evolved out of mud, primordial ooze, or whatever -- what is the driving force for it to want to reproduce? and what is the force driving it to want to evolve? Without this driving force, it would simply exist and eventually die off not caring if it reproduced or evolved or not. Consequently, the theory of evolution requires the existence of God (the "driving force") and with the existence of God, it makes evolution unnecessary.

I believe everyone should study the theory of evolution since it is widely taught although they should also be taught the downfalls of such unproven false theories as well. It is important to study all sides of an issue in order to make informed opinions.

Why do those who believe in evolution feel so threatened with studying creationism? - because they know their evolution theory has so many holes and that they do not want to admit the existence of God? (because if they did admit God exists, they know they are accountable to Him)

40,000 Haitians join the baptist cult - false prophets are overjoyed

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first - baptists are not Christians. Some in the baptist cult may be but that is in spite of their cult, not because of it.

baptists claim all you do is need to "accept Jesus as Savior" and then you are saved no matter what. They do not teach He needs to be the Lord of their lives - because "if you have to obeyHim, that is works and we are "saved by grace" alone". I grew up in the baptist cult and it is filled with (unrepentant) fornicators, adulterers, homosexuals, thieves, psycopaths, etc. They teach you can continue to live in a sinful lifestyle since you are "saved no matter what" and they ignore what the bible REALLY teaches - even messiah Yshua's own words which SHOULD be a wakeup warning to everyone who claims to be a Christian:

Matthew 7
21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord!' will enter the Kingdom of Heaven, only those who do what my Father in heaven wants.
22 On that Day, many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord! Didn't we prophesy in your name? Didn't we expel demons in your name? Didn't we perform many miracles in your name?'
23 Then I will tell them to their faces, 'I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!'

According to Messiah Yeshua (Jesus) you need to obey God and His law otherwise you are lawless and He will reject you.

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Mike Curtiss (27 Feb 2010)
"40,000 Haitians profess faith in Christ since Jan. 12 quake"

40,000 Haitians profess faith in Christ since Jan. 12 quake
Baptist Press ^ Feb 25, 2010 Barbara Denman

PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti (BP)--A reported 40,127 Haitians have made professions of faith in Jesus Christ since a major earthquake hit the impoverished nation in January, according to pastors and directors of missions within the Confraternite Missionaire Baptiste d'Haiti (CMBH).

"Haiti is ripe for a spiritual movement from God," said Craig Culbreth, director of the Florida Baptist Convention's partnership missions department, which coordinates the work of the CMBH, upon his Feb. 22 return from Port-au-Prince.

During a Feb. 16-17 citywide holiday observance in Cap Haitien, Haiti's second largest city, Culbreth saw "thousands upon thousands filling the streets where people are seeking God and asking Him to spare them from what happened in Port-au-Prince. For me, it was a New Testament expression of what it looks like when the Spirit of God shows up. I have never seen anything like it."

The CMBH is the Florida Baptist Convention-funded partnership of nearly 900 Haitian Baptist churches throughout Haiti. Through the partnership the Florida convention employs seven indigenous missionaries in six regions.

Since the earthquake, the CMBH pastors have distributed 51 tons of rice, which provided 437,750 servings to Haitians in Port-au-Prince and outlying areas where refugees have fled. Additional feedings are expected.

During the week of Feb. 16-22, Culbreth was on his third trip to Haiti since the earthquake to determine how Florida and Southern Baptists could reach beyond Port-au-Prince and meet needs of refugees who left the capital city.

Together, he and Dennis Wilbanks, an associate in partnership missions, have visited five of the six associations, conferring and praying with the directors of missions and Haitian pastors in the associations.

Culbreth compared the window of opportunity where the people are hungry for the Gospel to the United States after 9/11 when hundreds flocked to churches.

He cited recent events in many of the 110 churches in the Port-au-Prince area where throngs of people have been seeking spiritual guidance in church meetings, which have been held outdoors because Haitians feared to enter buildings. Church leaders have reported 28,000 salvations in the Ouest (Port-au-Prince) association.

Many conversions took place during the three days of prayer and fasting called for by the Haitian government Feb. 12-14, Culbreth said.

"People were in the streets, literally begging God for forgiveness and mercy," said Wilbanks, who was in Port-au-Prince at the time.

Professions of faith also have been reported by Florida and Southern Baptist medical and disaster relief teams as volunteers shared the Gospel.

The upsurge in the reported conversions appears to fulfill a pre-earthquake vision by Louis LaBranche, CMBH director of ministry.

"Pastor LaBranche said he had a vision of God telling him that 1.5 million Haitians will be saved in the next five years. He believes it and so do I," Culbreth said.

Culbreth traveled to Leogane, the epicenter of the earthquake which is located 18 miles west of the Haitian capital.

"Reports said that 90 percent of the buildings have been destroyed, but I did not see a house that was not damaged. The roads are buckled and people are pouring out in the streets," he said.

Culbreth was in Port-au-Prince during the 4.7 magnitude aftershock Feb. 22, and he said Haitians continue to live in fear for their lives.

The next three months will be crucial to reaping a spiritual harvest in Haiti, Culbreth said. CMBH leaders are planning 14 area-wide crusades, including two each in five associations and four in Port-au-Prince. The Florida Baptist Convention has authorized $53,000 to purchase Bibles and tracts and to rent sound equipment for the Haitian leaders.

"This is their dream and vision," Culbreth said. "They are making the plans. We are only providing funding to make it happen."

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False prophet Kelly Herman makes up false prophecies to tickle the ears of her listeners

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One mark of a false prophet is that they will say what their followers want to hear (tickle their ears) without any basis for believing what they say to be true.

Based on a supposed angel visitation many years ago to a person named Vincent Tan (which may have been demonic or may be yet another made up fairy tale by false prophet Jim Bramlett who told this tale to promote his books) that gave $2.34 change to someone, false prophet Kelly Herman decided that it meant the rapture would be in 2010 because the year this country became a nation, subtracting the current year from it, gives the number 234.

Neither God nor an angel told her to do this - although a demon may have.

2 Timothy 4

1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

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Kelly Herman (27 Feb 2010)
"Independence Day and Vincent TanE"

I have found something rather intriguing. While doing research on a whole different matter, I stumbled upon an article about our Independence celebration July 4, 1776 from Great Britain. I had an idea to subtract the current year from the actual year of this initial independence celebration to see how long it has been. 2010 minus 1776 = 234

Could this be a confirmation of the angel giving Vincent Tan $2.34 cents and quoting from Scripture about the return of Our Lord? It could be....

Looking up and loving the learning process! Kelly Herman

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False prophet Mariel ("Rowina") sees no problem with following after false "gods"

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God clearly stated that sometimes the prophecies of false prophets comes to pass to test the people to see whether they will follow after the false "gods" of the false prophets. False prophet Mariel ("Rowina" sees no problem with using the demon apparition to intercede with the false "jesus"

Deuteronomy 13

1 "If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder,

2 and the sign or the wonder comes true, concerning which he spoke to you, saying, ' Let us go after other gods (whom you have not known) and let us serve them,'

3 you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams; for the LORD your God is testing you to find out if you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

4 " You shall follow the LORD your God and fear Him; and you shall keep His commandments, listen to His voice, serve Him, and cling to Him.

False prophet Mariel ("Rowina") prays to mary if she seeks her intercession - whether she admits it or not. She also seems to think leading people to worhip a false "god" is not bad fruit. Scripture says we are to test a spirit on if it says Messiah Yeshua came in the flesh and we are to test people on whether their fruit is good or bad.

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Rowina (16 Feb 2010)
"Question about "Falling feathers""


To Julia and Brenda:

What is the connection of "falling feathers" to what you call the satanic apparitions
of Fatima and the "Spirit of Kundalini"? I have heard about the gold dust and other
manifestations, but not about feathers, and I am wondering about these.

I am puzzled about calling Fatima "satanic". For this reason: what negative fruit was produced by Fatima? We are to discern the spirits by their fruit.

I have read the prophecies of Fatima, and although I don't know if they are true or
will be true (the fulfillment of these seems not to have fully manifested), they seem
in line with Protestant revelations of the end times.

I do not pray to Mary, and I suppose it could be considered satanic to have an organization, such as the Fatima supporters, which encourages prayer to her. On the other hand, I do not think seeking her prayer to Jesus is wrong. Yes, they have something of a cult going here!
And of course the "church fathers", including Popes and cardinals, have wrangled endlessly
about the Fatima letters of Sister Lucy, with collusion to commit fraud brought in accusation
against some churchmen. It is a nasty mess, basically, the part the hierarchy has played
in the Fatima story. The three young children who say they saw Mary may have been more
innocent and truthful than the churchmen.

The Spirit of Kundalini is a very strange phrase. I do not associate it with Fatima. All who
participated in the apparitions, and all supporters of this "cult" would abhor the Spirit of
Kundalini. This Spirit of Kundalini is a very strange phrase which has grown up because
people are becoming aware that Kundalini Yoga can unleash bodily and spiritual imbalances.
On this I am an expert, as I once did Kundalini Yoga and paid for it with imbalances, from which
I was graciously rescued.

Anyway, tell me about the feathers, please?

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Brenda Robinson wins the award for the most wackiest posts

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Congratulations to Brenda Robinson for getting so many wacky made up posts on the five demons ("doves") web site.

She will be posting some even funnier ones in the upcoming days. It's so sad they are taken so seriously with no discernment.
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False prophet Bill Salus and false prophet Gary Fisher misapply facts to their false teachings to make it appear they are prophets

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I guess anything to sell books or gain a following. False prophet Bill Salus apparently has a false prophet radio program that his followers listen to. He had another false prophet on his show which claimed "Ezekiels birds are gathering in Israel" to make it appear the battle of gog-magog is near (where the birds will eat all of the carcasses) While the battle may be near, it is extremely dishonest using the birds gathering in Israel as a proof of this.

The fact that false prophet Bill Salus and his guest false prophet Gary Fisher leave out is that Israel is on the route of bird migration and over 500 MILLION birds pass through Israel EVERY spring and fall ( http://www.israbirding.com/ )

Israel is situated at an intercontinental junction- a bottleneck for migration routes. An estimated 500 million (!!) birds pass through every spring and autumn, with 530 species in record. This website features Israel's latest birding news.

Why are these false prophets using a regular event and making it appear it is a sign of bible prophecy is coming to pass??? They are trying to sensationalize events in order to sell books / tapes / etc. and gain a following.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2010/bills216.htm

Bill Salus (16 Feb 2010)
"EZEKIEL'S Birds Gather for Gog of Magog Meal! - Prophecy Update Radio"

Ezekiel's Birds Gather for Gog of Magog Meal!

This week on Prophecy Update Radio, host Bill Salus interviews end times expert and evangelist, Gary Fisher. Gary is the founder of Lion of Judah Ministries and has discovered some interesting insights in the book of Ezekiel. Gary recently visited Israel and says he witnessed firsthand, the gathering of the birds described in Ezekiel 39:17-20.

Ezekiel predicted 2500 years ago that Russia and Iran would lead a 9 member strong confederacy into the Holy Land to invade Israel. Iran has just become a "nuclear state" and Iranian President, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has publicly declared his intentions to wipe Israel off of the map.

This coupled with ever strengthening Russian and Iranian national relations has eschatologists thinking this invasion will soon occur. These invaders will be divinely destroyed and the Ezekiel birds will partake in what the prophet declares will be a “sacrificial meal”.

In this timely interview, Bill and Gary sort through and properly align the prophecies described in Ezekiel’s chapters 36-39. Convincingly, they illustrate that the stage is clearly set for MIDEAST EVENTS TO ERUPT EXTREMELY SOON!

Listen Now to this insightful interview

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False prophet Brenda Robinson claims the "bible codes" are "from God" - even when they are wrong and justifies their inaccuracy

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This one really takes the cake. False prophet Brenda Robinson is claiming the bible codes are "from God" and justifies their inaccuracy by stating "Codes are not set in stone - and dates are not always accurate because God does what He wants to with space and time."

If the codes were from God (they are not) then He would know what He was going to do in the future to the exact second and day and would have put the correct dates in any "codes" and they would be 100% accurate just as the prophecies in the Tanakh ("Old Testament") are. God gave the exact day the Second Temple will be rebuilt and the exact date Messiah Yeshua would ride into Jerusalem on a donkey hundreds of years in advance, so obviously He would put the exact dates in any "bible code" if they were from Him. God does NOT lie as false prophet Brenda Robinson claims. Since God knows all of history in advance, He did not need to encode dates if He was going to change His mind about the timing.

Doesn't ANYONE else see anything wrong with the teaching of false prophet Brenda Robinson???

If some of the codes are lies as false prophet Brenda Robinson admits, why accept any as being truth and accept them as being "from God" ??? Maybe the codes have been "dismissed by so many Christians" because they are demonic lies and some people have at least a little discernment to know if a prophecy is a partial lie then it is not from God.

Apparently false prophet Brenda Robinson has an ego problem as well - claiming the false prophets of the five demons ("doves") web site are "brilliant minds"

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2010/brendar212-1.htm

Brenda Robinson (12 Feb 2010)
"Randy - 70 Weeks"

Thanks Randy for your input on 70 weeks. This portion of the Word has been dissected in so many different ways. I believe your version has great merit.

I keep coming back to the BIble Codes that have been dismissed by so many Christians.

Codes are not set in stone - and dates are not always accurate because God does what He wants to with space and time.

However, there are many codes that I keep going back to:

2006 - The Beginning of the End
2012 - Extinction

Over and over and over the Codes indicate the "heat of the battle" is between these two dates. And it appears to be "heating up" that way. When I look at current events and how "the happenings" all appear to be pointing their way to Revelation, things don't seem to "fit" with so many of the explanations already given.

Your version makes a lot of sense.

May the Lord keep expanding our understanding of the times. I am so thankful to John to allow us to do so (the only place where so many brilliant minds can come together with the Holy Spirit to figure it out!)

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Demon possessed false prophet Lora Shipley intentionally twists scripture to fit her demonic false prophecies

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False prophet Lora Shipley twists scripture to fit her demonic prophecies and then accuses those who accept what Messiah Yeshua clearly teaches as "misquoting scripture". She also goes on to accuse those who are not date setting / watching as being "one of the five foolish virgins" - news to false prophet Lora Shipley: The five wise are those who are watching for Messiah Yeshua each and every day - the five foolish are those who are date setting and go off to try and buy their salvation and stating Messiah Yeshua cannot return until the date they conger up.

False prophet Lora Shipley has so many doctrinal errors / demonic teachings in her current post it would take a month to point all of them out.

Messiah Yeshua said we are to "Keep watch" because we do NOT know the day or hour of His return". He instructed us to continually watch for Him - not to guess at dates He is to return and watch for the date. Yet false prophet Lora Shipley says she DOES know the day AND a "six hour time frame" (but conveniently state which time zone)

Just because one does not accept false prophet Lora Shipley's demonic date setting scam does not mean they are not watching for Messiah Yeshua's imminent return each and every day and each and every hour and each of every minute of that day.

Matthew 24
42 "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

And even in the parable of the five virgins, the five wise did not know the exact time otherwise they would have been awake and not asleep:

Matthew 25
1"At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2Five of them were foolish and five were wise. 3The foolish ones took their lamps but did not take any oil with them. 4The wise, however, took oil in jars along with their lamps. 5The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they all became drowsy and fell asleep.
6"At midnight the cry rang out: 'Here's the bridegroom! Come out to meet him!'
7"Then all the virgins woke up and trimmed their lamps. 8The foolish ones said to the wise, 'Give us some of your oil; our lamps are going out.'
9" 'No,' they replied, 'there may not be enough for both us and you. Instead, go to those who sell oil and buy some for yourselves.'
10"But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shut.
11"Later the others also came. 'Sir! Sir!' they said. 'Open the door for us!'
12"But he replied, 'I tell you the truth, I don't know you.'
13"Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour.

Note that the five foolish thought they were believers and were watching - yet Messiah yeshua rejected them - which He also states in Matthew 7:

Matthew 7
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' 23Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'

Hosea 6:2 is not speaking of the rapture. Itis stating after two days (two thousand years) God will restore fellowship with mankind through the sacrifice / resurection of Messiah Yeshua

Hosea 6
2 After two days he will revive us;
on the third day he will restore us,
that we may live in his presence.

2 Peter 3
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

The false prophets / teachers will be held accountable for their false teachings and scripture twisting. False prophet Lora Shipley is sure maligning the truth!

2 Peter 2
1 But among the people there were also false prophets, just as there will be false teachers among you. Under false pretenses they will introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, and thus bring on themselves swift destruction.
2 Many will follow their debaucheries; and because of them, the true Way will be maligned.
3 In their greed they will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their punishment, decreed long ago, is not idle; their destruction is not asleep!

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Lora Shipley (10 Feb 2010)
"CLUE #11 RAPTURE TIME FRAME-WHICH DAY? FIRSTFRUITS! Which Hour? 6 hours?"

CLUE #11 WHICH DAY? FIRSTFRUITS!
Feast of Firstfruits is Clue #11

Which Hour? Midnight till Morning, 6 hours

Church Misquotes, “no man knows the day or hour”

1 Cor. 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

PREVIOUS CLUES 1-10 CLICK HERE

Summary at a glance: THE FIRST COMING WAS PROPHISED TO THE VERY DAY- JESUS says this - 42Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, Luke19:42 In other words, hey guys, you couldn’t discern the signs and wonders, the many clues to look for in prophecy concerning me, but you should at least know the day….. Daniel 9 gives the prophecy to the very day, why were you not counting the days until my coming? (Daniel 9 countdown at the bottom of page)

His return for the bride offers us clues to look for too: The “third day” he will raise us up and we shall live in his sight.” The “third day” is The First day of the Feast of Weeks- Firstfruits, this is the very day Jesus rose from the dead. The scriptures confirm that we “will follow after him every man in his own order”. 1 Cor.15:23. We are to literally know the day, which is just that “the day” he comes for us. Not the week, month or year, but THE DAY! We are not to know the hour. Jesus in Mathew, Mark and Luke, gave us three time frames to look for him, a period of 6 hours, between midnight and morning, there is an actual blessing given to those who will be awake during the 2nd and 3rd watch of the night. How much detail do we need? Here is the day, Feast of Firstfruits, now here is the 6 hour time frame, midnight to morning! The church has so grossly misquote the” no man knows the day and hours” so many times it has become almost church doctrine. This is an inaccurate quote, and refers to the day and hour Heaven and Earth pass away, not the time of the rapture. It is the evil servants, the foolish virgin who will not be looking and not know the time of his return. There are enough clues in the scripture, to his coming of the bride, the first one and the most obvious of all is in front of us, staring us right in the face; Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. Christ is the FIRSTFRUITS AND AFTEWARD THEY ARE AT HIS COMING! He rose on the third day which was firstfruits and we too will be raised up on “the third day and live in his sight”. Jesus held them accountable for his first coming, Daniel 9, he will hold us accountable to knowing for the day of return. So much so that there is a crown given for those who look for his coming!

Key points we will have established in this study:

· ESTABLISHED: FIRSFRUIT IS THE THIRD DAY

· ESTABLISHED:THE THIRD DAY HE WILL RAISE US UP

· ESTABLISHED: FIRSTFUITS WILL FOLLOW AFTER THE ORDER OF CHRIST

· ESTABLISHED: WE ARE TO KNOW THE DAY

· ESTABLISHED: WE ARE TO NOT KNOW THE HOUR

· ESTABLISHED: WE ARE TO WATCH IN A 6 HOUR TIME FRAME

· ESTABLISHED HIS FIRST COMING TO THE VERY DAY. DANIEL 9.

· ETABLISHED: CHURCH HAS MISQUOTED NO MAN KNOWS THE DAY OR HOUR
· ESTABLISHED 10 OTHER CLUES THAT POINT TO FIRSTFRUITS AS BEING THE DAY.( see top of page to link for other studies)

FEAST OF FIRSTFRUITS IS THE DAY, WE WILL NOT KNOW THE HOUR

Have things ever been so obvious to you that it is right in front of you and yet you are still blind to it? I believe this is the case concerning the church about the day of the catching away, the rapture of the bride. The day is so obvious it is staring at us right in the face, he has given us so many clues, and being the sheep we just get all skittish about looking for a particular day. In this study we will look at the text and discover how literal it actually is.

The church and the body have told us this, “well no one knows the day or the hour”. They have misquoted this scripture so many times that it has become church doctrine. But, we are to know the day, not the hour, we are stay awake in that day, and not fall asleep in that hour The hour spoken of by Christ is a literally 6 hour time frame. We have studied now 10 clues to why the rapture/catching away of the Bride will happen between Firstfruits and Pentecost. A Period of 50 Days. The last study Clue #10 we learned that he will come to us in the Month 1, during the Feast of Weeks, March and April. Hosea From this clue we can pin point a day, the very day. He tells us with this marvelous clue in Hosea 6:2-3 2After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight. 3Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth.

Feast of Firstfruit is the day! This day rings more true and clear then any other day mentioned in the word. in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight. Hos. 6:2

1. ESTABLISHED: Feast of Firstfruits is the day Jesus rose –Acts 20:10 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;

2. ESTABLISHED: Feast of Firstfruits is the “third day”- Hosea 6:2 2After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.

3. ESTABLISHED: Jesus is the Firstfruits from the dead- 1 Cor 15:20But now is Christ risen from the dead, [and] become the firstfruits of them that slept.

4. ESTABLISHED: We are to be firstfruits too and will follow him everyone in there own order- 1 Cor. 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

5. ESTABLISHED FIRST FRUIT WILL GO BEFOR THE ALTER OF GOD: The first of the firstfruits shall be brought into the house of the Lord thy God- Ex 23:19 The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring into the house of the LORD thy God.

6. ESTABLISHED FIRSTFRUIT WILL NOT GO THROUGH TRIBULATION IN REVELATIONS 3 :10The firstfruit will not have to go through the tribulation- Rev. 3 10Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. The Firstfruits shall be offered unto the Lord and shall not be burnt on the alter -Lev 2:12As for the oblation of the firstfruits, ye shall offer them unto the LORD: but they shall not be burnt on the altar for a sweet savour.

7. ESTABLISHED FIRSTFRUIT IS THE DESIRED FRUIT BY MAN IN THE TRIBULATION: During the tribulation man’s soul will have longed to be a firstfruit: Micah 7:1Woe is me! for I am as when they have gathered the summer fruits, as the grapegleanings of the vintage: [there is] no cluster to eat: my soul desired the firstripe fruit.

A GROSE MISUNDERSTANDING BY THE CHURCH TO THE ” DAY AND THE HOUR”

35Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 36But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. Mathew 24: 35-36

The church has misquoted this scripture” no man knows the day or the hour” so many times that they do not really know what it means, and has not read the other scripture in context. The day and the hour that no man knoweth- is when heaven and Earth pass away. Mathew 24:35-36Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 36But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

· NO MAN KNOWETH WHEN HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS AWAY: 31Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. 32But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

The evil servant will not know the day and the hour

· Mathew 24:48But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; 49And shall begin to smite his fellow servants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; 50The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, 51And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

· Luke 12:39And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through. 40Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour (literal time period in a day) when ye think not.

Look for the key words- WHAT HOUR??-WHAT WATCH??

42Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. 43But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. 44Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. 45Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? 46Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 47Verily I say unto you, that he shall make him ruler over all his goods

* We will not know the hour
* We should know what watch- The second or third watch? A clue? Perhaps
* He will come in an hour we think not, 3 am, 4 am? 5 am?
* WHAT IS DEFINED AS AN HOUR A WATCH?

The STONGS CONCORDENCE HEBREW/GREEK OF WATCH AND HOUR

STRONGS HOUR-G5610 1) a certain definite time or season fixed by natural law and returning with the revolving year

a) of the seasons of the year, spring, summer, autumn, winter

2) the daytime (bounded by the rising and setting of the sun), a day

3) a twelfth part of the day-time, an hour, (the twelve hours of the day are reckoned from the rising to the setting of the sun)

4) any definite time, point of time, moment

STRONGS-WATCH-G5442

d) of the time (of night) during which guard was kept, a watch i.e. a period of time during which part of the guard was on duty, and at the end of which others relieved them. As the earlier Greeks divided the night commonly into three parts, so, previous to the exile, the Israelites also had three watches in a night; subsequently, however, after they became subject to the Romans, they adopted the Roman custom of dividing the night into four watches

WHAT WATCH and WHAT HOUR? PIN POINT ACCURACY- The scriptures is not just talking about what year, what season or even what month, but what day! We just do not know the hour or but we know it is in the early hour watch midnight to morning. DO YOU NEED MORE SCRIPURE TO BACK THIS UP?

Mark 13:35Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning:

THE TIME GIVEN IS A PERIOD OF 6 HOURS Midnight, cockcrowing or morning? This is know man knows the hour, or what time of the watch, a period of 6 hours. In Mathew, Mark and Luke all scriptures refer to the hour, but the text refers to the evil servant not knowing the day or the hour “shall come in a day when he looketh not for him,” Is there a day we are to look for him? Do we have more scriptures to witness to the day or to the hour?

More scriptural references: Luke 12:37-40: 37Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them. 38And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants. 39And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through. 40Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not. Not a day but a pin point hour- between midnight-morning or the WATCH-was known as 3 different watches in the night.

LUKE 12 ANOTHER CONFIRMING WITNESS: 46The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.

· He is warning the Goodman of the house if HE DOES NOT WATCH…..He will come in a day and an hour the servant is not looking for him. THE DAY AND THE HOUR ARE SPECIFIC…NOT THE YEAR OR THE SEASON, OR MONTH BUT DAY AND HOUR- SPECIFIC!

THE DAY AND THE HOUR: Are we to look for “the day” and in “that day” be watchful of the hour? We are not to sleep in “that day” during the hour of the watch or the day of when between midnight and morning. (Mk 13:35) Is there more supporting scripture on this? Yes! There is a blessing if he finds them watching at a certain time.

JESUS gets VERY SPECIFIC about not just a day but a certain time frame in the day. The second or third watch Luke 12:38And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants. A blessing is given if the servants are watching in the second and third watch. I am reminded of the disciples who slept through many important events, the mount of Transfiguration, in the Garden of Gethsemane. Let us not sleep in that important hour of his coming! Let us watch in the midnight, when the cock crows, and in the morning!

ARE TO KNOW “THE DAY” OF HIS COMING? YES!- Luke 12:38 THE BEST SUPPORTING SCRIPTURE WE HAVE FOR US is TOO KNOW THE DAY OF HIS COMING, NOT THE HOUR OR THE WATCH….. BUT THE DAY…. (We have a clue for those who are blessed for watching in the 2nd and 3rd watch of the morning.)

HISTORY SUPPORTS “THE DAY” THAT SUPPORTS “A DAY ”

· JESUS RODE INTO JERUSALEM ON A DONKEY, WE CALL IT PALM SUNDAY, THIS WAS HIS DAY HIS HOUR OF HIS PRESENTATION AS LORD, IT WAS PROPHICIED IN DANIEL 9

· Many worshiped him as king on that day. This was his day and hour.

· It was expected of the Jews to have known this day and hour of his presentation.

· Because they were not ready he held them accountable

· Will we be looking for him on the day and hour he presents himself to the bride?

· WHAT DID WE LEARN FROM HIS FIRST COMING Luke 19:40:41 He wept over them and held them accountable for knowing the day of his visitation- (This was what we call Palm Sunday) it was prophesied to the very day in Daniel 9- see the math at the bottom of the page. A time line was established and expected!

Luke 19-44 38Saying, Blessed be the King that cometh in the name of the Lord: peace in heaven, and glory in the highest. 39And some of the Pharisees from among the multitude said unto him, Master, rebuke thy disciples. 40And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out( this was an apponted day Dan 9!). 41And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it, 42Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, ( he is saying you did not recoginize the propecies concerning me, but you did not even count the days)the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes.(because you did not know they are hid from you) 43For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side, 44And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.

JESUS HELD THEM ACCOUNTALBLE FOR KNOWING AT LEAST THE DAY!!!! THE SCRIPTURES GIVE US MANY EVIDENCES TO THE DAY WE SHOULD KNOW, AND THE HOUR WE SHOULD WATCH AND BE AWAKE FOR. THIS IS A LITERAL DAY AND WATCH, MIDNIGHT TO MORNING. THE EVIDENCE TO BACK THIS UP IS LUKE 19:40-41 THEY DID NOT KNOW THE DAY, HE HELD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.

The church and most Christians have repeated the no man knows the day and hour so much that they believe it and do not search the scriptures for truth themselves, they will be held accountable for their slackness.

Israel became a nation in 1948, we are approaching the final 7 years to complete a 70 year generation.(see Clue #5 David)

THIS SPRING, the Feast of Firstfruits, the first day of the Feast of Weeks, is THE THIRD DAY. This is a day that the bride should be awake, and looking up, midnight to morning. Be the Bride, do not sleep. It may be this spring, the time is close, very close!

BELOW, MAKE SURE YOU CHECK OUT THE MATH ON DANIEL 9

Be blessed in Him!

Lora Jeffries Shipley

Emails welcome:loafofbarley@gmail.com

I have posted the other clues here: www.loafofbarley.webs.com

Sources and notes:

Math on Daniel: http://www.alphanewsdaily.com/mathprophecy1.html

mathematical prophecy

http://www.alphanewsdaily.com/mathprophecy1.html


10th of Nisan ... "Palm Sunday"... 32 A.D.

The Prophecy ... (Daniel 9:24-25)

"He (Messiah ... the King)

will be revealed

7 weeks + 62 weeks ( = 69 weeks of years)

AFTER the commandment to rebuild Jerusalem

and its walls,

THEN He (Messiah) will be CUT-OFF (executed!)

but NOT for Himself." (He willingly died on the Cross for Israel ... and for the whole world.)

(Daniel 9:24-25)

This is a mathematical prophecy . . .

- A week of years (shabua or shabu’im) = 7 years

- "Cut-off". . . the actual Hebrew word used was karath, literally means "executed!"

- The "70th Week" (the last 7 years) of this prophecy is yet future - See the 'Apocalypse.'

God gave the Jews the most sophisticated calendar on Earth. It is both a Lunar and a Solar calendar. The Jewish calendar uses a 360 day lunar (and prophetic) year and then adds a 'Leap Month' on specific years to accurately coincide with the Solar cycle we use on our 'Julian' calendar ...

The Bible uses 360 day years for prophecies and expects us to add the appropriate 'leap months' on schedule. So, the easiest way to unravel this prophecy is to first convert this prophecy into days ...

1. Add 7 + 62 weeks of years = 69 weeks of years in this prophecy

2. Multiply 69 (weeks) x 7 (to get the total number of years in this prophecy) = 483 years

3. Multiply 483 years x 360 (to get the total number of days in this prophecy) = 173,880 days

So, the prophet Daniel, who lived 500 years before Jesus-Yeshua wrote that from the day of the commandment to rebuild Jerusalem and its walls, until the coming Messiah would be 173,880 days!

(Note: This prophecy was also translated from Hebrew into Greek in the Septuagint almost 300 years before Jesus-Yeshua made His prophetic entry into Jerusalem, riding on a donkey.)

To convert the 173,880 days found in this prophecy into our 365.25 day solar years (the .25 adjusts for leap years) . . .

173,880 days ÷ 365.25 (days in a year) = 476 years (our solar 'Julian' calendar)

So, the prophet Daniel told us it would be 476 years from the 'commandment to rebuild Jerusalem and its walls' to the time the Messiah of Israel would first be revealed to the nation and to the world ...

The Commandment ...

This prophecy of the coming Messiah is both remarkable and extremely precise. There were other orders to rebuild the Temple, but, there was only one commandment to restore Jerusalem and its wall. On March 14th, 445 BC, as confirmed by modern archaeology, King Artexerxes I of Persia issued the commandment to rebuild Jerusalem and specifically included its wall (see Nehemiah 2:2-9 ... the book of Nehemiah records this account of rebuilding the city and its wall.)

Prophecy fulfilled ...

Now take the 476 years in this prophecy and simply start counting from March 14, 445 B.C. (when the command to rebuild the city Jerusalem and its wall was given) and you end on the exact year (even the very day) Jesus-Yeshua rode 'triumphantly' into Jerusalem (Palm Sunday), being praised as King and Messiah by thousands upon thousands of the Jewish people who had gathered from all over for the Passover Holidays. Honored, yet lowly, riding on a donkey - exactly as another prophet, the prophet Zechariah, said He would ...

"Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion (Israel)!

Behold, your King (Messiah) is coming to you;

He is just and having salvation,

yet He is lowly and riding on a donkey."

(Zechariah 9:9 ... written around 500 B.C.)

Thus, on the 10th day of Nisan ('Palm Sunday') 32 AD ... 476 years after the command was given to rebuild the city and its wall ... Jesus-Yeshua made His famous triumphal entry into Jerusalem, riding on a donkey. It was the only day that He ever allowed Himself to be honored as Messiah or King (Mark 11:1-12) as the people of Israel cried out and sang "Hosanna to the Son of David (this is a Psalm of the Messiah), blessed is He who comes in the name of the LORD!" from Psalm 118 ... (and all this took place just a few days before He was 'executed' exactly as Daniel's prophecy said He would!)

A remarkable prophecy . . . simply count the years!

March 14, 445 B.C. Order is issued to rebuild the wall

to April 6, 32 A.D. 10th of Nisan, 'Palm Sunday' - Jesus welcomed as King and Messiah

= 477 years

- 1 year Subtract one for no "0" A.D. or B.C.

= 476 years Exactly!

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Lora Shipley

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False prophet Lora Shipley calls God a liar

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Messiah Yeshua (Jesus) says we are to 'keep watch' because we do not know the day or the hour He will return for us (the rapture) He tells us to continually watch - not set dates and times as the wicked and disobedient false prophets do.

False prophet Lora Shipley makes up definitions and then uses scripture to back her faulty and unbiblical definitions / conclusions.

Nowhere does the scripture use 'latter rain' to deine or describe the rapture as false prophet Lora Shipley claims.

I have never seen such scripture twisting and redefining scripture from any one false prophet until I read the teaching of false prophet Lora Shipley. What part of 'keep watch because you do not know when your Lord will return' does false prophet Lora Shipley not understand???

Matthew 24
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not on what day your Lord cometh. 43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what watch the thief was coming, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken through. 44 Therefore be ye also ready; for in an hour that ye think not the Son of man cometh.

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Lora Shipley (8 Feb 2010)
"CLUE # 10 HE WILL COME UNTO US IN THE SPRING, MONTH 1, IN THE FEAST OF WEEKS"

CLUE # 10 HE WILL COME UNTO US IN THE SPRING

AS THE LATTER RAIN IN

MONTH 1 (Nissan)

AND WE WILL LIVE IN HIS SIGHT

“and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month.” Joel 2:23

Previous 9 clues click here to read:

Over the last week I have presented many clues to the rapture of the first fruits bride between Feast of Firstfruits and Pentecost which is also known as the Feast of Weeks and The Counting of the Omer. Based on this study I believe the scriptures offer proof that he will come to us, and we will be raised on the" third day", and live in his sight,in the spring, Month 1 (Nissan) during the Feast of Weeks.

Summary at a glance: If you just read this little summary you are going to be missing out on so much! The third day is Firstfruits, he will raise us up on the third day and we will live in his sight. The third day is confirmed by the month, Nisan, and the Latter rain which means Spring rain. A third confirming scripture to HE SHALL COME TO US is in Jer. 5:24, this verse confirms his coming in the Feast of weeks. The latter rain is part of his coming; His coming will bring forth the latter rain. The Bride will be apart of the latter rain because they are the firstfruits as Jesus was a firstfruit. Songs 1: 8 confirms that the Bride will walk in the footsteps of the flock and feed the sheep. Perhaps it will be the same time frame/blueprint set by Jesus when he walked the Earth and showed himself to many for a period of 40 days.

See the study- Clue 7 part 1 and Part 2 for the Blueprint for the Bride. HIS COMING FORTH TO GATHER THE BRIDE WILL BRING THE LATTER RAIN!

TIMING OF HIS COMING ESTABLISHED:

Three Scripture References to His Coming in the Spring!

1. Timing of his coming established :Month 1 Nissan-Joel 2:23
2. Timing of his coming established :March and April-Hosea 6:3
3. Timing of his coming established Feast of Weeks-Jer. 5:24

DAY HE SHALL COME: “HE SHALL COME TO US…….”HOSEA 6:3

WHEN SHALL HE COME TO US?

1. Hosea 6:2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight

2. What day is the third day? Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly; Acts 10:40 Jesus was the fruitfruit from the dead he was raised up on the “third day”The Bride should look at the “third day” as a blue print plan for her to be raised up/caught up/raptured on. Jesus was the Firstfruit from the dead; the scriptures refer to his bride as being a Firstfruit. Hosea 6:2 confirms that we will follow the three day footsteps or blue print set by Jesus. After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight. Now that we have the third day established in Hosea 6:2 lets examine Hosea 6:3.

3. THE THIRD DAY AS THE ESTABLISHED DAY: HE SHALL COME UNTO US ON THE THIRD DAY AND WE SHALL LIVE IN HIS SITE, (Hosea 6:2)- THE “THIRD DAY” IS WHEN HE SHALL COME TO US.

QUESTION: How do we know what day “third day” Hosea is talking about?

· The day Jesus was raised the third day

· The latter rain- “Third Day? Hosea 6: 3 continued ……He shall come to us in the “latter rain” which is in the Spring- March or April: Hosea 6:3 Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth

LETS BREAK DOWN THIS SCRIPTURE AND EXAMINE IT: Hosea 6:3 Then shall we know, if we follow= (pursue, run after, chase, aim secure) on to know the LORD: his going forth= (Rising (sun), going forth of a command) is prepared =(firmly established) as the morning= (dawn); and he shall come= (to lead in, to carry in, to bring in, cause to come in, gather, cause to come, bring near,) unto us as the rain=(shower), as the latter =(latter rain, spring rain the March and April rains) and former rain =(instruct teach) unto the earth
THE LATTER RAIN IS THE MARCH AND APRIL RAIN- Strongs: H4456 latter rain, spring rain) the March and April rains which mature the crops of Palestine IT IS REFERED HIS COMING FORTH WILL BRING IT!!!!

THE EARLY RAIN IS WHEN HE TAUGHT US- Strongs: H3844 (early) rain (TWOT) teacher

TIMING ESTABLISHED! HIS COMING FORTH WILL BE IN THE SPRING- APRIL OR MARCH-
SUMMARY OF THE VERSE: If we pursue, run after and make it our aim to secure and know the lord, he will go forth with a command, like the rising of the sun, which is prepared and firmly established as the dawn of the morning; and He shall come, lead, cause to come and carry and bring us near as a shower. His bringing forth and coming will cause the spring rain in March and April; the former rain was to instruct and to teach unto the Earth. His coming forth will be in the spring.
His coming will be like the rain, it will water the Earth, the church, life will spring forth and grow the harvest, and the fruit will be sweet and beautiful and ready to pick at harvest time. (Make sure you read the conclusion at the bottom of the page)
· Recap- Again…..THE LATTER RAIN IS THE MARCH AND APRIL RAIN- Strongs: H4456 latter rain, spring rain) the March and April rains which mature the crops of Palestine
· THE EARLY RAIN IS WHEN HE TAUGHT US- Strongs: H3844 (early) rain (TWOT) teacher
2nd SUPPORTING SCRIPTURE: JOEL 2:23- THE LATTER RAIN WILL COME IN THE FIRST MONTH- NISSAN! 23Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God: for he hath given you the former rain moderately, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month. Joel 2:23
MONTH 1 (NISSAN) ESTABLISHED FOR HIS COMING (His Coming Hosea 6:2-3)
· THE FORMER RAIN WAS GIVEN TO US MODERATELY 23Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God: for he hath given you the former rain moderately, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month. Joel 2:23
· Jesus came to us with humility and meekness and his first coming was moderately compared to his coming forth with the latter rain
· The former was his first coming which taught and instructed
· His coming will bring forth a shower of rain in the spring that will not be moderate, but powerful.
· THE FORMER AND THE LATTER RAIN WILL COME DOWN IN THE FIRST MONTH (Month 1 is Nissan) Jesus is the former rain- Teaching, instructing, he the former rain IS WHEN JESUS CAME THE FIRST TIME TEACHING, will come again as the latter rain IS HIS coming forth is in the Month 1, Nissan.

3RD SUPPORTING SCRIPTURE: Jer. 5:24 THE LATTER RAIN IS THE APPOINTED WEEKS OF THE HARVEST – THE FEAST OF WEEKS!24Neither say they in their heart, Let us now fear the LORD our God ,that giveth rain, both the former and the latter, in his season: he reserveth unto us the appointed weeks of the harvest. Jer 5:24

· Weeks= shabwa is Feast of Weeks

· VERSE BROKEN DOWN:24Neither say they in their heart, Let us now fear the LORD our God, that giveth rain (showers), both the former (teach and instruct) and the latter (spring rain), in his season (time or and event): he reserveth (to watch, guard, keep, wait with purpose, observe, celebrate and protect) unto us the appointed (statute, ordinance, limit, enactment, prescribed,) weeks ( Feast of Weeks- the counting of the Omer- Feast of Firstfruits to Pentecost 50 days) of the harvest. (Harvested to reap) Jer. 5:24

· Summary of Verse: they do not say in their heart, let us now fear the LORD, our God has given us rain in both the former when he came to teach and the latter when he comes to gather and pour out in the spring, which is HIS season of a time, of an event that he reserves, we are to watch to wait with purpose, observe, celebrate and protect, unto us the appointed ordinance that is prescribed Feast of Weeks of the harvest that will be gathered, reaped.

SEASON CONFIRMED: Jer. 5:24 confirms Hosea 6:2-3 in which the season of his coming in the spring at an appointed time for the gathering during the Feast of Weeks. We are told to watch and wait with purpose and celebrate this time!

MARCH APRIL, MONTH 1, FEAST OF WEEKS CONFIRMED: Joel, Jeremiah and Hosea are all confirming scriptures to the coming of Christ in the Spring, Nisan (Month 1) and the Feast of Weeks.

THIS IS NOW THE 10TH CLUE CONFIRMING THE SEASON, MONTH AND FEAST!
CONCLUSION: The evidence is becoming insurmountable, his coming, his calling forth of the bride will be during the spring, March/April, in Month 1 ( Nisan). The rapture or catching away of the bride will be on the “third day” which is the Feast of Firstfruits, the day after Passover, and the First day of the Counting of the Omer. Hosea 6:2 confirms the “third day he will raise us up and we will live in his sight.” The latter rain is his coming forth to call His Bride up, his coming forth and calling up is also going to bring the rain. The bride of Christ will follow a similar path a blueprint set by Jesus. The bride will live in his sight on the third day but will also show themselves too many, possibly for40 days as Jesus did after his resurrection and ascension to the Father. (See the study on the Blueprint set for the Bride, Clue 7 part 2.) The glorified Firstfruit bride will be ministering the gospel to family, friends, and others during this time, possibly 40 days as Jesus showed himself too many,Songs 1:7-8. The ministry of the bride would be similar to the steps of Jesus, in that the bride will appear to many, teaching and tending the sheep as Jesus did during his 40 days prior to his ascension 7 days before Pentecost. Jesus appeared too many with a glorified body; the same will be for the bride, perhaps, cook, give Bible studies, encourage. Perhaps the bride will show up in a room, in cars, maybe an airplane, without opening a door, this would shake those up around her, those left behind, the remaining left behind church who was not repentant (See Rev 2-3). The left behind will mourn and cry out that they were not the bride. The left behind will desire too seek after Him with all there heart. The unbelieving husband may believe when his wife and child came back to minister to him with a glorified body. The possibilities are endless! THIS IS THE LATTER RAIN that will spring forth with his coming! The latter rain could be the beginning of this period of 40 days, or more. The number 40 is a number associated with a time of trial. This would be the chance for the unbeliever to believe and experience the outpouring like the Church of Acts did which was moderate compared to what will come with his coming forth in the latter rain and raising up the bride on the “third day”. Jesus was caught up into the clouds 7 days prior to Pentecost. The Bride could and most likely, based on the blueprint set by Jesus as a Firstfruit, be caught back up to Heaven for the Marriage Supper of the Lamb on Pentecost day 50, the last day of the Feast of Weeks. 50 Means consummation and is the number liked to a wedding. The Jews celebrate Pentecost more like a wedding then any other Feast. The latter Rain would be that, the coming of Jesus, the Bride Firstfruits following in his footsteps. In Songs 1:8 the bride is working closely with the groom as he feeds his sheep. The latter rain will bring a rain to water the seed to have it grow and produce fruit to be harvested when it becomes ripe and tender.

TO GOD BE THE GLORY! BE THE BRIDE OF CHRIST!

Lora Jeffries Shipley

Emails welcome:

loafofbarley@gmail.com

STRONGS REFERENCES :Reserveth: ) to keep, guard, observe, give heeda) (Qal)1) to keep, have charge of2) to keep, guard, keep watch and ward, protect, save lifea) watch, watchman (participle)3) to watch for, wait for 4) to watch, observe 5) to keep, retain, treasure up (in memory) 6) to keep (within bounds), restrain 7) to observe, celebrate, keep (sabbath or covenant or commands), perform (vow)8) to keep, preserve, protect WEEKS- STRONGS- H76210 seven, period of seven (days or years), heptad, weeka) period of seven days, a week 1) Feast of Weeks b) heptad, seven (of years) ) HARVEST= crop, what is harvested or reaped

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