Wednesday, February 3, 2010

False prophet "Pineman" - smooth sounding lies sound like the truth to those with no discernment

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False prophet "Pineman" has such smooth sounding lying doctrines that they sound like truth to those with little or no discernment. False prophet "Pineman" false doctrine is that "if we disobey the gospel, we are lost forever" and then goes on to define "the gospel" as that Messiah Yeshua (Jesus) died and atoned for our sins and rose again on the third day. Those who believe the demonic lie of once saved, always saved (OSAS) teach this doctrine. How can you "obey the gospel" when all it is is accepting "Jesus as Savior " (most people want a Savior from hell but refuse to accept Yeshua as LORD of their lives )

The truth is while we need to accept Yeshua as Savior (from hell), we also need to accept Him as LORD of our lives. Following someone as Lord demands OBEDIENCE. The term Messiah means (Lord + Savior) - it was separated into it's components of Lord and Savior by those who refuse to obey God as Yeshua commanded us to. Messiah Yeshua even stated He will reject those who claim to be His if they disobey God (and His Torah)

Matthew 7

KJV
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

NASB
21 Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.
22 Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?'
23 And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'


Iniquity means sin (disobeying God). Lawless means disobedience of God's instructions - Torah.

False prophet "Pineman" is correct in that "Disobedience means damnation" but he is incorrect when he claims it is "disobedience of the gospel" (which apparently means accepting Yeshua as Savior from hell) when Messiah Yeshua said He will only save those that obey God (His Torah)

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2010/pineman23.htm

Pineman (3 Feb 2010)
"Disobedience equals Damnation"

Dear John & Doves:

We are told that if we disobey the Gospel then we are lost forever. And what is that Gospel? The Gospel is that only Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross can save us from our sins – past, present and future. No human being, including ourselves, can accomplish that task.

As of today (Feb. 3, 2010) there are 60 days till First Fruits. One possible scenario for the ending of the Church age and the beginning of the Tribulation could very well begin April 4, 2010, which is First Fruits. Click here for the rest of the story.

Pineman
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