false prophet Ted Porter still predicting dates - and still following demon chanelled material - and is also changing what the bible says

According to false prophet Ted Porter, the [unbiblical] "economic seven year tribulation" started september 29th (I guess making something up and then claiming a failed rapture date applies to it is the best Ted Porter can do for his failed prophecies) he is also is claiming the rapture will be october 29th 2008 (what happened to his failed rapture date last year? - oh, I forgot, that was when the [unbiblical] "seven year economic tribulation" started) Funny how he never mentioned an "economic seven year tribulation" until his rapture september 2008 "rapture date" failed and he needed an event to fill that date so he could claim his prophecy was true "but not in the way he expected" Funny how the false prophets always do this yet claim they were not predicting anything.

Two posts

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2008/tedp1027-3.htm
Ted Porter (27 Oct 2008)
"The Greatest Rapture Watch Date in Many Years is Upon Us!"

John Nelson is another Watcher who posts on Five Doves. Back in January ofthis year, (2008), he had emailed me and asked what I thought was the mostpromising Rapture watch date for this year. Of course, I had emailed backOctober 29, 2008. (I realize there are those who are watching October 28,2008 which is arrived at by counting inclusively from June 7, 1967, but I'mnot going to quibble about one day.) Anyway, he replied back regardingOctober 29, 2008, also in the affirmative.

Since the author has posted many times on Five Doves this past year withreasons to watch October 29, 2008, he will not repeat any of them here.And, looking forward, should October 29, 2008 come and go, the author willespecially be watching several years from now, or to be more precise, 42prophetic months from 10/29/08. And, looking even more forward, should thatdate come and go, the author will even more be watching 42 prophetic monthsfrom that date. But let us not get ahead of ourselves, (smile).http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2008/tedp1013.htm

Watching and Waiting!

Shalom,Ted Porter

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2008/tedp1027-2.htm

Ted Porter (27 Oct 2008) "Did the predicted economic SEVEN Year Tribulation start September 29, 2008?"
Did the predicted economic SEVEN Year Tribulation start September 29, 2008?

For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows. Mark 13:8

What will MARK the SIGN of the start of the 7-year economic tribulation which will slowly lead into where finally no one will be able to buy or sell save they have the MARK, or the name, or the number of the beast?

And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Revelation 13:17

Looking back at how September 29, 2008, possibly the start of SEVEN years of tribulation has been so marked by God:

- Largest single day number drop in the History of the Dow
- Dow down 777.7 points
- Dow down 7%
- Wall Streets Response to House’s Failed 700 Billion Dollar Proposed Takeover by US Government

(The takeover has been said to have been inevitable following the 2004 US Government rule change where illiquid land assets traditionally held by Banks which allowed many people to buy land and houses, had to be valued at fire-sale prices as if those assets had to be liquidated immediately.)

- The last of September, the word “September” literally means “Seventh Month”
- The beginning at sundown in Israel which was well before the US stock market closed, the month of Tishri, the Seventh month on the Sacred Jewish calendar

The timeline put forward several months ago by the author was of the tribulation starting September 29, 2008. Also included was hopefully the Rapture on October 29th, 2008.

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/july2008/tedp710-1.htm

Of course many prophetic books such as “The Temple and Bible Prophecy” by Randall Price, have the SEVEN year Tribulation starting off with a period of 1290 days followed by a period of 1260 days. Starting from September 29, 2008 and adding 1290 plus 1260 also brings one to September 23, 2015 for the end. Time will tell.

Watching and Waiting!

Shalom,
Ted Porter
porter@endofage.como
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false prophet Ted Porter reinterprets scripture to suit his own false prophecies / beliefs

Typical false prophet fashion, five demons ("doves") false prophet Ted Porter twists scripture to make it say what he wants it to say instead of using scripture to interpret properly.

The bible says the antimessiah will receive a literal head wound and will lose an eye and an arm - yet false prophet Ted Porter claims he will lose his kingdom --- his head being a head of government (according to false prophet Ted Porter) - by a sword - which false prophet Ted Porter claims is the united states supreme court.

Zechariah 11

16"For behold, I am going to raise up a shepherd in the land who will not care for the perishing, seek the scattered, heal the broken, or sustain the one standing, but will devour the flesh of the fat sheep and tear off their hoofs.
17 "Woe to the worthless shepherd
Who leaves the flock!
A sword will be on his arm
And on his right eye!
His arm will be totally withered
And his right eye will be blind."

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/nov2008/tedp1115-1.htm
Ted Porter (15 Nov 2008)
"The Beast that had the Wound by the Sword and did Live"

And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. Revelation 13:14

And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. Revelation 13:3

Consider that heads are kingdoms and one of the beasts heads is the kingdom of the United States. And then this head is wounded to death by a sword. A sword can stand for justice and judgment. Consider this justice coming from the United States Supreme Court.

And yet, even with this justice, even though this wound was to death AND TOOK away this kingdom from the beast, the beast still in the end GETS THIS kingdom - his deadly wound is healed.

And all the world wonders.

Shalom,

Ted Porter
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false prophet Ted Porter - abandoned his Chanukah prophecy and is now looking for santa clause rapture

false prophet Ted Porter is now abandoning his Chanukah december 21 rapture day prophecy and is now looking for ba-almass eve because "if Reindeer can fly that one “magical” night of the year, why not us? (Remember the word “magical” has as its root, the word “magi”) "

false prophet Ted Porter is also claiming Messiah Yeshua's conception was on yule - a celebration of ba-al (tammuz) on december 24. false prophet Ted Porter fits in with this season - what a fruitcake!

The Magi did not see Messiah Yeshua until He was two years old - long past ba-almass as false prophet Ted Porter alludes to their 'ba-almass visit at His birth' false doctrine accepted by the so-called "church"

2 Peter 2
1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2008/tedp1219.htm
Ted Porter (19 Dec 2008) "Tis the Season to Consider Christmas Eve"
Tis the Season to Consider Christmas Eve
Doug Corley is working long hours this Holiday Season so he asked if I could pass on some reasons he saw for watching the day before Christmas. I also went ahead and verified the date calculations and took the liberty to embellish a little at the beginning. Who knows, if Reindeer can fly that one “magical” night of the year, why not us? (Remember the word “magical” has as its root, the word “magi”)

Calendar calculations were verified using:
http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/calendar/

Consider the date 9-29-2 BC, Gregorian (Julian 1720965.5) for Y’shua’s birth. And consider his ministry starting at age 30, and having a ministry of 3 ½ years with His resurrection from the dead and ascension being on 4-3-33 AD, Gregorian (Julian 1733205.5). This would have been for a period of 12,240 days.

Consider this could point to 12/24

Also consider that He was conceived 280 days (inclusive) before 9-29-2 BC which would place His conception by the Holy Spirit on 12-24-3 BC, Gregorian, Christmas Eve. Let's bring that forward and say this too is prophetic to 12-24-2008.

Consider:
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2008/dougc415.htm
12,240 is the total gematria of Acts 13:41 [exclusive]
Behold, ye despisers, and wonder, and perish: for I work a work in your
days, a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you.

12,241 is the total gematria of 2 Ti 4:8 [inclusive]
Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord,
the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all
them also that love his appearing.

Despisers are excluded but those who love his appearing are included. Those are the
ONLY two verses with exact gematria of 12,240 and 12,241.

1224 is one of the most sacred numbers in text -
http://www.biblewheel.com/gr/gr_1224.asp
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2008/dougc417.htm
Conception = Dec 24 = 12-24 = His life span - 12240 = 1224 x 10

We celebrate Christmas as His birth but the indications are that it was
His conception. http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2008/bonnieg417.htm
1224 = Fishes (Greek)
1224 = The net (Greek)
1224 = "Great is the Lord, and greatly to be praised in the city of our God, the mountain of His holiness (Psalm 48:1)
1224 = God's creation (Greek)
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false prophet Ted Porter just cannot admit his failed rapture date prophecies

Instead of admitting he was wrong, false prophet Ted Porter (of the five demons ["doves"] web site) claims different events fulfilled his failed rapture date prophecies.

Ted Porter said the rapture would happen on a certain day (october 29th) and when it didn't, he fished out another event that happened that day and then claims that event fulfilled his failed rapture date prophecy. This is SO typical of false prophets - and yet NO ONE on the five demons site seems to have discernment and see the false prophets for the fruitcakes / phonies that they really are.

This fear mongering fruitcake such as Ted Porter (and the rest just like him) is why there is so much turmoil and instability in the economy right now.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2008/tedp1031-1.htm
Ted Porter (31 Oct 2008)
"Constitutional Crisis - Illegal Alien Elected President of the United States"

Constitutional Crisis - Illegal Alien Elected President of the United States
Could this be the headline on November 5th?
How did we get in this mess?
Was it planned?
With the refusal of officials to prosecute and not hold people in contempt and others such as the Governor of Hawaii to not release requested official documents till after the November 4th election, one can’t wonder if this “constitutional crisis” has been planned. “Nothing in Politics happens by mistake.”
Since this is a Rapture Watch Site, of particular notice, as Tony Ellsworth pointed out, November 5th is exactly 3 ½ calendar years or 42 calendar months from 5/5/5. 42! Wow! 555! Wow!
And if October 29th’s 30-minute infomercial was the “strong delusion”, then a seven day warning from October 29th is also November 5th.
Watching and waiting!

Shalom,
Ted Porter
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false prophets (Ted Porter and others) coming up with even more "confirmed" rapture dates (even before the previous ones fail!)

It's october 20th. The false prophets "confirmed" the rapture will be october 21 or 22. Now, even before those dates fail, they are now claiming it will be october 28th or 29th.

G-d will not be mocked. Obviously He has not given ANY of these fruitcake false prophets ANY dates. They are making them up to mislead and destroy people.

Ted Porter reads and listens to books chaneled by demons - he has not repented (even after being informed they were chaneled books) and he is now using them to come up with other dates for the rapture. Ted Porter is a wicked false prophet who listens to demons. He may be "looking up" but unless he repents, he will be watching the True Believers raptured while he is left behind.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2008/tedp1020.htm
Ted Porter (20 Oct 2008)
"October 29, 2008 Rapture Watch!"

Thank you all for the many positive emails, in particular Doug Corley who also has posted regarding October 28/29th. Also thanks for the positive posts, in particular Barry Amundsen and Gary Rich, regarding the post a week ago discussing the soon coming possible October 29, 2008 Rapture:
"When is Jesus Returning? The Answer is 42!" http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2008/tedp1013.htm Also the followup post:
"Will there be 42 Generations from Jesus Christ's 1st Coming to His 2nd Coming?" http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2008/tedp1014.htm

The posts include, Barry Amundsen's:
"Ted Porter WOW!" http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2008/barrya1014.htm
And Gary Rich's:
Feast of Tabernacles Rapture http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2008/garyr1015-2.htm
Regarding Gary's post whether the Feast of Tabernacles can be extended to include October 28/29th I must confess I can't seem to figure out if the altar dedication feast was before or after the Feast of Tabernacles. I remember there was another rededication of the altar and temple on Hanukkah/Chanukah so although the original dedication doesn't seem to be celebrated anymore, or maybe just once, the rededication of the altar is celebrated each year on Hanukkah
The Bible verses are:
And at that time Solomon held a feast, and all Israel with him, a great congregation, from the entering in of Hamath unto the river of Egypt, before the LORD our God, seven days and seven days, even fourteen days. On the eighth day he sent the people away: and they blessed the king, and went unto their tents joyful and glad of heart for all the goodness that the LORD had done for David his servant, and for Israel his people. I Kings 8:65
Also at the same time Solomon kept the feast seven days, and all Israel with him, a very great congregation, from the entering in of Hamath unto the river of Egypt. And in the eighth day they made a solemn assembly: for they kept the dedication of the altar seven days, and the feast seven days. II Chronicles 7:8-9
The verses list seven days and seven days for a total of 14 days. Then the Bible talks about the 8th day, similar to Hanukkah. But is that 8th day in the middle of the 7 + 7, or after? Would it not say the 15th day? Yet II Chronicles 7:10 seems to indicate the feast was over by the 23rd day of the month?
And on the three and twentieth day of the seventh month he sent the people away into their tents, glad and merry in heart for the goodness that the LORD had shewed unto David, and to Solomon, and to Israel his people. II Chronicles 7:10
Which would also seem to indicate that the dedication of the altar feast started before and went through Yom Kippur, the Holiest day of the year.
Regardless, October 29th is still the new moon, and as is recorded:
Blow up the trumpet in the new moon, in the time appointed, on our solemn feast day. Psalms 81:3
And as indicated before with the "precession of the equinoxes", could be seen as Tishri 1, the Feast of Trumpets, from the perspective of the Universe instead of the perspective of the Sun.
Looking Up!
Shalom, Ted Porter
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false prophet Ted Porter once again touting the "amero" currency

false prophet Ted Porter claimed the united states would be using a new currency - the amero - by october 2008. Now he is all excited because people are trying to make money on obama's popularity and minting non-negotiable coins (ie: cannot be used to buy anything) and thinks that means obama's picture may be on this ficticious amero currency.

Anyone can mint any round object and call it a coin - does not mean that is is legal currency. Apparently a fact that escapes the little mind of false prophet Ted Porter.

false prophet Ted Porter makes up any numbering system to fit what he wants it to say - and he says americans have no discernment and have "fallen into apostasy" for accepting obama as the president elect? Seems he does not know what the bible says about numerology or false prophets.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2008/tedp1215-2.htm
Ted Porter (15 Dec 2008) "Will the Amero Euro Currency be the Mark of the Beast? Will it bear his Image?"
And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image. Revelation 16:2
Already, before he is even the “president elect”, there are coins that have been minted that bear his image.
http://coins.about.com/od/coinbuyingadvice/a/obama_coins.htm
https://www.officialobamacoin.com/Default.aspx?MID=523702
http://www.goldobamacoin.com/
https://www.obamacoins.tv/flare/next?tag=EDSMGOTM
The Euro replaced the Deutsche “Mark” or German “Mark” in 1999.
http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?s=german+mark&gwp=13
If all goes as apparently planned, the Amero will replace the American and Canadian Dollar along with the Mexican Peso in 2009. This combined Amero and Euro currency or “Mark” could apparently become the “Mark” or currency of the Beast.
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Revelation 13:17
What is the number of this combined Amero Euro Mark in the vetted a=6, b=12 numbering system?
a 6
m 78
e 30
r 108
o 90

e 30
u 126
r 108
o 90

666
Should we expect anything else?
Shalom,
Ted Porter

Looking Up!
Notes:
The following is speculation on how all this will be implemented, based on what the Bible reveals.
And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's. Matthew 22:20-21
The word Caesar became Kaiser and was the title of the Emperors of the “Holy Roman Empire” from 962 AD to 1806 AD, and in Germany till Adolph Hitler took the place of the last Kaiser in Germany . Money has been measured in “Mark’s” in Germany , the same word used in describing the “Mark” of the Beast. Will the new currency be a Mark on a Ledger, or debit, the value of which changes? Current debit cards are usually 16 digits. Will the Amero Euro Mark be 18 digits broken up into 6 and 6 and 6?
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: Revelation 13:16
While many have speculated that something will be embedded either on or in people’s right hands or their foreheads, what happens if this is not what is meant? Will these many be deceived? What if it is actually receiving in their right hand, the Amero Euro currency, a free handout as has been promised to everyone who does not currently pay taxes. However, it states everyone, even the rich will get this possibly free handout. What about their foreheads? This is their mind, in their foreheads. A physical mark would be on their foreheads but the Bible states IN their foreheads. They could possible be told an Amero Euro Mark number, like a debit card number.
Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. Revelation 7:3
And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads. Revelation 9:4
This sealing in Revelation 7:3 and 9:4 uses the same terminology. This is not thought to be a physical mark on their forehead but something else, something possibly placed in their mind akin to the saving knowledge of Our Lord Jesus Christ!

O Lord, Come Quickly!
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false prophet Ted Porter has received two confirmations that a LIE is truth

These fruitcake false prophets will believe any LIE is "confirmed" if they receive two emails saying the same thing (unless, of course, it is Truth). There is absolutely NO discernment on the five demons ("doves") web site - they are all willfully deluded false prophets who would rather believe any LIE than believe the Truth.

false prophet Ted Porter claims to have received two emails claiming the two witnesses of Revelation becan their ministry the same day obama gave his infomercial (october 29, 2008) even though there is absolutely NO REAL EVIDENCE to support this LIE- and, oh yes, false prophet Ted Porter has been "rewarded" for his false prophecies by being told the name of the two witnesses (who he does not disclose to anyone)

false prophet Ted Porter and the rest of his ilk on the five demons ("doves") web site will be eternally punished unless they repent of their wickedness.

2 Timothy 3
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as their's also was.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/tedp32-2.htm
Ted Porter (2 March 2009) "The Two Witnesses Have Begun to Prophesy as of October 29th/30th, 2008"
And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. Revelation 11:3

But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. Matthew 18:16

After posting the following which scripturally establishes the identity of the two witnesses:

(28 Feb 2009)"Where is Elijah and the Identity of the Two Witnesses"
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2009/tedp228.htm

I received two independent emails from Christian brothers that confirmed to me in my Spirit that the two Witnesses have indeed begun to prophesy. And they began on October 29th/30th 2008.
I felt awed by God that He would reveal to me, now, THROUGH HIS WORD, and THROUGH HIS SPIRIT, the identity of the Two Witnesses. Which is another confirmation to me that the LORD’s two witnesses, HIS WORD and HIS SPIRIT, have indeed begun to prophesy.
The time is short.
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God. Revelation 2:7

Shalom -
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false prophet Ted Porter - infatuated with numerology and omens.

Ted Porter has a thing for numbers - even though G-d forbids numerology and interpretation of omens. NOWHERE does false prophet Ted Porter even try to show his numerology and satanic garbage is in the bible - because it is NOT and G-d forbids the satanic garbage he is posting about.

II Tim 4:3-4
3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/jan2009/tedp129.htm
Ted Porter (29 Jan 2009) "Interesting Time: Friday the 13th right before Midnight UT on February 13, 2009 - 23:31:30"
Unix Time, which counts the number of seconds past 00:00 Universal Time on January 1st, 1970, will be at the exact second on February 13, 2009, 23:31:30, equal to:
1234567890
This can be confirmed by using a spreadsheet and inserting the date 1/1/1970 in one cell and inserting in another cell the sum of the first cell plus 1234567890/60/60/24 (to convert the number of seconds to days).
This can also be confirmed by using an online calendar converter such as:
http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/calendar/
While this date has a lot to draw interest to it, I am not convinced at this time that it is in regard to the Rapture of the Church.
Discussion:
Because Friday the 13th will happen in 2009 during February in a non-leap year, March will also have a Friday the 13th. In other words, back to back, Friday the 13th. Also, November in 2009 will have a Friday the 13th. So there will be three Friday the 13th’s in 2009. Normally, the distribution would be one Friday the 13th on average every 7 months. However, in 2010 there is only one Friday the 13th during the year. And in 2011 there is only one Friday the 13th. But in 2012 there are again three Friday the 13th’s. These are interestingly clustered in January, April, and July. In other words this could be stated as three months before April, in April, and again, three months after April.
April 11th, 2012 has been proposed before by the author as the possible start date for the Great Tribulation. It is 1260 days before Yom Kippur, September 23, 2015, the proposed day for the return of Christ. It has also been suggested that this could be the day the two witnesses could be killed and lay dead for 3 ½ days (through Friday the 13th), in parallel to Christ’s passion, before being resurrected.
Interesting!

Shalom, Ted Porter
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false prophet Ron Reese thinks the tribulation began in september

Obviously false prophet Ron Reese made up some arbitrary unbiblical event to fit his "tribulation must be between 2008 and 2015" assumption. The bible clearly says the tribulation starts with the confirming of the covenant by the antimessiah. That did NOT happen on october 29th as this fruitcake false prophet (who claims to have been a bible student) claims.

Bible says many deceived people will continually study but never come to the Truth. I'm afraid false prophet Ron Reese is one of them as is five demons ("doves") owner John Tng.

Notice false prophet Ron Reese is promoting false prophet Ted Porter and Ted Porter's demonic chanelled garbage he has posted on the five demons ("doves") web site. False prophets ALWAYS flock together and promote each others false teachings.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/nov2008/ronr116.htm
Ron Reese (6 Nov 2008) "OCT. 29, 2008 THRU SEPT. 23, 2015--HAVE WE ENTERED THE FINAL 7 YEARS???!"
OCT. 29, 2008 THRU SEPT. 23, 2015?HAVE WE ENTERED THE FINAL 7 YEARS???!Was Oct. 29, 2008, the first day of the Final 7 Years, or the beginning of the 70th week of Daniel?!!! I believe the evidence that I am about to present to you makes a VERY strong case for this to be the truth. Most of you believe that this could not be the case because there has been no Rapture yet, and no confirming of a 7-year peace treaty by the Antichrist. I believe there was an event one week ago on Oct. 29, 2008, that thrust the world right smack dab into the Final 7 Years of human history, as we know it. Please be patient enough to read this entire letter because if what I am about to present to you is the truth, then all of our lives will never be the same again.I would like to briefly introduce myself, although some of you will remember me. I have written a couple of letters to Five Doves a year ago, and a few in 2004, and in 2000-2001, and several in the late 1990’s. My ministry has consisted of graduating from a Bible Institute, pastoring 2 churches, being an evangelist on end-times prophecy and speaking in dozens of churches on this subject, and writing 36 different tracts on the 2nd Coming of Christ. We now have almost 10 million tracts in circulation. I have had numerous conversations with Jim Bramlett and had dinner with him a couple of times at the International Bible Prophecy Conference in Tampa, Florida. I have attended numerous Bible Prophecy Conferences over the years, usually with my own display table to offer my tracts, bumper stickers, tapes, Rapture t-shirts, etc. Many of you know Bonnie Gaunt, who has written several fascinating books on the end times and the Bible Codes, and appeared on TV on the 700 Club. Bonnie and I hosted a summer-long crusade on the End Times in our home city a few years ago. Despite all of the above, I do not consider myself to be the in-depth student of end time prophecy that some of you on Five Doves are. Like most of you, I have been wrong on different things pertaining to the last days before and will probably be wrong again in the future. I have been waiting anxiously for somebody on Five Doves to see what I saw take place one week ago on Oct. 29, 2008, but nobody has come forth with it yet. Ted Porter is the only one who has come close. Like most of you, I have been thrilled and fascinated by the abundance of evidence pointing to 2008 thru 2015 as the Final 7 Years. It has been, and STILL IS, OVERWHELMING. The only two years in my 35 years of studying the end times that have come this close to creating this much evidence and excitement have been 1998 and 1988. Notice, all 3 years end in 8, the number of new beginnings. The evidence for the autumn of 2015 being the 2nd Coming of Christ and the end of the Final 7 Years seems to be staggering. Some of you have given up for this year because we are now into November and past the Feast Days for 2008. I hope what I am about to present to you will renew your hope that 2008--2015 are indeed the Final 7 Years before Christ returns.During my attendance at numerous Bible Prophecy Conferences, there has been one speaker who has earned the respect of most all attendees and been the most sought-after speaker, and the one who has the biggest crowds around his book table. It is not Jack Van Impe or Hal Lindsey. It is in-depth Bible Prophecy scholar J.R. Church, of Prophecy in the News, author of Prophecies in the Psalms and numerous other books on the end-times. J.R. has been consistent in his belief that the 70th week of Daniel has to be during a 7-year Sabbatical cycle. I have seen him get excited about the possible Rapture during 1987, 1994, 2001, and 2008 because these years were the beginning of 7-year Sabbatical cycles. With the autumn of 2008 thru the autumn of 2015 being another 7-year Sabbatical cycle, it seems the perfect time for the beginning of the 70th week of Daniel to begin, AND I BELIEVE IT HAS!!!So much evidence has come forth this year concerning 2015, including the lunar and solar eclipses right before and right after Feast of Atonement, Sept. 23, 2015. Jesus told us there would be evidence of his 2nd Coming in the sun, moon, and stars. Do you believe Him??? According to Bonnie Gaunt’s “Jubilee Study” in her Aug. 10, 2006, letter on Five Doves, and several others, the autumn of 2015 begins not just a new Sabbatical year but also a JUBILEE YEAR!!! WOW!!! That only happens once every 50 years. Ted Porter of Five Doves has been pointing to this same exact 7-year period of Oct. 29, 2008 thru Sept. 23, 2015, for being the the Final 7 Years for quite some time and has even written a booklet about it. I urge you to use the search engine on Five Doves and type in Ted Porter. He will give you much more information about this 7-year period that began last week than I can give you here. 7 X 7 = one Jubilee cycle. It seems extremely likely that God would give Israel one Jubilee cycle from the highly significant day of June 6-7, 1967, when they recaptured their holy city of Jerusalem. 7 X 7 X 360 days (a Jewish year) from that all-important day of June 6-7, 1967, takes you to Feast of Atonement, Sept. 23, 2015, right to the day!!! Amazing!!! This should be the Final Day of the Final 7 Years, when Jesus returns at the Battle of Armageddon. Everything points to this being the case. On Oct. 13, 2008, Ted Porter wrote to Five Doves an article entitled, “When is Jesus Returning? The Answer is 42!” In that article, Ted did an awesome job of telling us why the number 42 has been presented as the one number in the Bible that means the 2nd Coming of Christ. The re-capturing of Jerusalem on June 6-7, 1967, which most prophetic scholars believe started the final generation before the 2nd Coming of Christ, plus 42 JEWISH YEARS takes us to Oct. 29, 2008, which should be the first day of the Final 7 Years. I have just showed you TWO AMAZING CALCULATIONS THAT TAKE YOU TO THE FIRST DAY AND THE LAST DAY OF THE 7OTH WEEK OF DANIEL, THE FINAL 7 YEARS. It is my conviction that we entered this 70th Week of Daniel on Oct. 29, 2008.On Oct. 27, 2008, Jerry Grenough wrote to Five Doves with the article entitled, “It All Fits for 2008 Rapture”. In that article he wrote, that Wednesday, Oct. 29, 2008, will be Day One of the Tribulation. Ted Porter and others have come up with the same calculations. Can it be just a coincidence that there are so many things pointing to this 2520-day period, this Sabbatical cycle, this Jubilee cycle, with everything seeming to conclude on Feast of Atonement, Sept. 23, 2015, and therefore, starting on October 29, 2008??? Never in history has there been such a perfect fit for the Final 7 Years, not even close. Do you honestly think things can go on like this for another 50 years (2 complete Jubilee cycles? Do you even think things can continue for another Sabbatical cycle, or another 7 years? It appears highly unlikely. We have what many considered a 7-year warning on 9/11/2001. We have the economies of the world falling apart and ready to plunge right into the economic doomsday that is presented in the Book of Revelation. We have the world poised on the brink of World War III. We have Iran and Israel poised to unleash weapons of mass destruction at each other, not to mention the U.S., Russia, China, and others. We have the likely Antichrist poised to become President of the world’s only superpower. Can anybody say, “THE STAGE IS NOW SET!!!” Most of you are probably ready to agree with me that the stage is now set. Many of you will agree with all of the above evidence that Oct.29, 2008 thru Sept. 23, 2015, appears to be the perfect time frame for the Final 7 Years. But the vast majority of you reading this still have two HUGE problems with this time frame, which we entered on Oct. 29, 2008. #1, there has been no rapture yet and #2, there has been no confirming of a peace treaty with Israel by the Antichrist yet.Several times I have preached a sermon entitled, “17 Scriptural Reasons for a Pre-Tribulation Rapture”. I have always believed the Rapture would precede the 7-year Tribulation. You may have noticed that in this letter I have called this 7-year period of Oct. 29, 2008 thru Feast of Atonement, Sept. 23, 2015, the Final 7 Years. After reading Sherry Vance’s article of last month and similar articles over the years, I have to admit that even though they probably do overlap, the Tribulation, the 70th Week of Daniel, and the Time of Jacob’s Trouble may not be the EXACT same time periods.I have always believed and been taught in Bible School that the Tribulation would be 7 years, and the Great Tribulation would comprise the last 3 and one-half years of the 7-year Tribulation. I still believe the Book of Revelation teaches a 3 and one-half year Great Tribulation and that the 70th week of Daniel is 2520 days, or 7 Jewish years, long. The 2300 days mentioned in the book of Daniel has always been a mystery for Bible prophecy scholars. This 2300 days could very well be the shortened Tribulation period.For those of us who believe in a Pre-Tribulation Rapture, this 2300-day theory would still give us several more months and several more options for the Rapture, if indeed the Great Tribulation and the 70th Week of Daniel concludes in the fall of 2015. Even though I will be writing follow-up letters with at least 2 possible dates for the Rapture during the next few months, one in 2008 and one in the first half of 2009, I am a firm believer that the Rapture will be the same day as the Sudden Destruction, and, therefore, may or may not be a day that we can calculate. This takes us to the other obstacle for us already entering the Final 7 Years, which is the confirming of a 7-year peace treaty with Israel by the Antichrist. I was taught in Bible School, and have always believed this would be the event that actually began the 7-year Tribulation. The signing, or confirming, would be Day 1 of the 70th Week of Daniel. It is still my contention that Daniel 9:27 takes place (or should I say already took place) on Day 1 of the 70th Week of Daniel.I believe there are 3 things that we need for Day 1 of the 70th Week of Daniel to take place. I used to believe the Rapture was the 4th piece of the puzzle. I no longer believe that because I believe we have entered the 70th Week of Daniel, as of Oct. 29, 2008, and no Rapture has taken place. I believe that will take place at the time of the Sudden Destruction, sometime in the next 7 months. The 3 things are 1. A potential Antichrist on the scene. 2. We need to be at the beginning of a 7-year Sabbatical cycle. 3. We need a confirming of the covenant with many by the potential Antichrist. 1. Because of the tremendous amount of letters about Barack Hussein Obama on Five Doves in the past few months, I will spare you in this letter all of the many reasons why I now believe this man will come to fulfill his role as the Antichrist in the very near future. Perhaps in another letter I will highlight a few of the reasons. More and more Christians every day are jumping on the bandwagon that this man, who is probably a Muslim, will fulfill his role as the Antichrist. Count me among them. So many Christians have this pre-conceived idea about the Antichrist, that they are totally closed to the idea that Obama could be the Antichrist.I jumped off the Antichrist-must-come-from-Europe bandwagon a long time ago. Perry Stone, at a prophecy conference that I attended, was the first that I knew of who presented a case for the Antichrist coming from the other half of the Old Roman Empire, which comprises much of the Muslim Kingdom. It is difficult to imagine someone from Europe, with very little nuclear power, or someone from Jordan or Syria, actually controlling the whole world. However, a President of the United States, the world’s only superpower, with its vast nuclear power, who shows his true Muslim colors at the start of the 3 and one-half year Great Tribulation, that is a different story. Who is more likely to cut off your head if you do not take the Mark of the Beast, a European leader like Prince Charles, or a great leader in the Muslim world??? So, I believe we definitely have a potential Antichrist on the world scene in Obama.2. October 29, 2009, seemed to be a perfect fit to be the first day of the 70th week of Daniel. As more and more evidence begin piling up for Obama being the Antichrist and more and more evidence pointed toward the Final Seven Years comprising the time period of Oct. 29, 2008?Sept. 23, 2015 (Feast of Atonement), I became increasingly puzzzled during the last several weeks as to how Obama could sign or confirm a 7-year peace treaty with Israel on Oct. 29, 2008, if he was not even going to be in power until January, 2009. I could not reconcile this dilemma.I waited anxiously with all of you as we went through the Fall Feast Days of 2008, anticipating the Rapture. Like Ted Porter, Jerry Grenough, and others on Five Doves, after the Feast Days, I was still anticipating something REALLY BIG to happen on Oct 29, 2008!! Would it be the Rapture? Would it be the crash of the stock market? Would it be the unleashing of nuclear weapons? Would it be the signing of a Middle East peace treaty, that possibly Obama would confirm, or strengthen, after he was sworn in as President in January of 2009? Something just had to happen on this day, I reasoned. It was just such a perfect fit. 3. In 35 years of studying Bible Prophecy, I had never seen this much evidence pointing to one particular day to start the Final Seven Years. I went to bed on Oct. 29, 2008, thinking we could be off one day because of Jewish inclusive reckoning, or because of moon sightings in 2015. Still perplexed the next day, as I anxiously scanned the newspaper for some secret signing of a Middle East peace agreement, I went to Five Doves looking for insight on the previous day’s events, which again was Oct. 29, 2008. I began scanning the titles of the letters that appeared in Five Doves on Oct. 30. When I read the title of Lewis Brackett’s letter entitled, “Obama’s Covenant with Many”, it hit me like a bolt of lightning. My spirit was electrified, as I heard the words come to me out of nowhere, “IT HAS HAPPENED!!!”The first opportunity I had I got out my Strong’s Concordance and did a word study on Daniel 9:27, which says, “And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week” What we, as Bible students have always been taught, is the Antichrist will sign, or strengthen, a 7-year peace treaty with Israel and several other countries. This is another of our pre-conceived ideas, that I now believe has proven to be false. It is a theory that has been derived from an overall study of Bible prophecy. There is certainly no Scripture that says the Antichrist will sign, or confirm, a 7-year peace treaty with Israel and several other nations.When Jesus came the first time, very, very few recognized Jesus as the Messiah. It was because of their pre-conceived ideas, from misinterpreting Scriptures, that they got it wrong. Do not let your pre-conceived ideas about the Antichrist and a 7-year peace treaty with Israel, and a Rapture before the Final 7 Years begins, keep you from seeing what has just taken place. ANTICHRIST HAS CONFIRMED THE COVENANT AND THE FINAL 7 YEARS, OR THE 70TH WEEK OF DANIEL HAS BEGUN!!! We can know it has begun because of what has taken place on Oct. 29, 2008!!!Here is what my word study in the Hebrew has revealed to me. Of all the words in that verse, the word “covenant” was the hardest to gain insight on. There was nothing about a peace agreement, nothing about a treaty. In fact, in the Hebrew, there was nothing even anything remotely suggesting that “the covenant” was any type of peace agreement, or a treaty of any kind. Study it for yourself. Covenant means to come together, to be of one mind, and promises. The Hebrew for “week” does mean seven years. There is nothing in the Hebrew to suggest the word “many” would involve a peace treaty with a handful of Middle East countries, as we have been let to believe. Instead, the Hebrew word “many”, indicates an abundant number, ten thousands, or millions, a HUGE number, or a multitude. The Hebrew meaning of “confirm’ would indicate to strengthen, to put more strength to, to prevail, to exceed, to be great, to be mighty.I do believe the “he” in Daniel 9:27, does represent the Antichrist, who comes in Daniel 7:25 “to CHANGE TIMES AND LAWS”. Based on the word study on Daniel 9:27, which says, “And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week”, here is what I believed happened on October 29, 2008:Barack Hussein Obama put himself on nationwide TV, on 7 major TV networks, and in front of over 33 million people, confirmed, or strengthened, or re-affirmed, or summarized his platform, his promises, to be of one mind and to all come together, or his COVENANT with the people. He strengthened his covenant (his promises). The intention of his covenant, or his promises, was not only TO STRENGTHEN, but also to PREVAIL on Election Day, to EXCEED during his presidency, TO BE GREAT, and TO BE MIGHTY. The title of his message was, “A Closing Argument to the Everyman”. I would say that Everyman would sure include a whole lot of people. Besides the 33 million that watched his speech on Oct. 29 on TV, millions more saw it later on news broadcasts and on the Internet. Certainly, the “many” involved an abundant number, a huge number, a multitude, yes, millions upon millions of people, not just a handful of countries that we have come to expect the “many” to represent. During this speech, Obama said he was going to change the country and CHANGE THE WORLD!!! His main platform has been to “PREPARE FOR CHANGE”. Daniel 7:25 says the Antichrist is coming to CHANGE times and laws. The “confirming of the covenant with many for ONE WEEK”, simply was put in Scripture so we could identify the 70TH WEEK of Daniel. In other words, God is allowing us to identify the Antichrist and the first day of the 70th WEEK of Daniel at the same time. I BELIEVE GOD IS SAYING THAT WHEN YOU SEE A PRIME CANDIDATE FOR THE ANTICHRIST CONFIRMING A COVENANT (OR PROMISES) IN FRONT OF MANY (MILLIONS AND MILLIONS) ON THE VERY SAME DAY THAT CALCULATES OUT TO BE THE VERY FIRST DAY OF THE FINAL 7 YEARS, KNOW THAT YOU HAVE ENTERED THE 70TH WEEK OF DANIEL.WHEN WE SEE AN OUTSTANDING CANDIDATE TO BE THE ANTICHRIST STRENGTEN OR CONFIRM HIS COVENANT OR PROMISES IN FRONT OF MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ON THE EXACT DAY THAT EVERYTHING POINTED TO BE THE FIRST DAY OF THE 70TH WEEK OF DANIEL, WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO THINK???? That it was all just coincidence??? A word study of Daniel 9:27 in the Hebrew tells us that WHAT TOOK PLACE WITH OBAMA ON 0CT. 29, 2008, WAS, INDEED THE FULFILLMENT OF DANIEL 9:27.There is nothing at all in the Hebrew language that would even remotely suggest that this verse was talking about a peace treaty with Israel and a handful of other nations. Apparently, it really has nothing to do with a 7-year peace treaty with Israel. That is not to say that a peace treaty or agreement with Israel is not coming in the near future, but based on all the evidence in this letter, it will not be a fulfillment of Daniel 9:27. I strongly encourage you not to reject the message of this letter because of pre-conceived ideas of how end-times prophecy must play itself out. Please re-read this letter when you have time and remember to pray first that the Lord would show you if the message in this letter is true or whether it is false. Nobody, especially me, wants to be a part of deceiving anybody. I pray that you will let this letter change your life. Let it give you a new sense of urgency like you have never had before, to accomplish what the Lord wants you to do in these VERY, VERY LAST DAYS that we are now living in. That is my prayer for myself and for all of you.I leave you with my favorite verses, Luke 21:34-36, “And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting (partying), and drunkenness, and CARES OF THIS LIFE, and so that day come upon you unawares. For as a snare (trap) shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man (Jesus).” Ron Reesergreese49@aol.com
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false prophet Ted Porter claims the united states is in apostacy because it accepts obama as the president elect???

false prophet Ted Poerter is a verified false prophet and who associates with false prophets that are involved in ba-al worship. He lacks any discernment and is in apostacy yet he claims the united states has no discernment and is apostate because they accept the fact that obama is the president elect???

Remember, false prophet Ted Porter read demon channeled material and the demons told him when the rapture date would be --- "42" (without giving a meaning to it)
http://falseprophetwatch.blogspot.com/search?q=ted+porter

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2008/tedp1215-1.htm

Ted Porter (15 Dec 2008) "Will the "Assumed" "President Elect" Actually Become the "President Elect" Today?"
http://www.newemergencypreparedness.com/office-of-the-president-elect/
Will the “Assumed” “President Elect” actually become the “President Elect” today, December 15, 2008? (Barack has already “assumed” the title). The elected representatives from all 50 states will meet today to elect the next President of the United States of America . That is what makes the United States a Republic. We elect representatives to “represent” us and to actually elect the next President of the United States . Prayerfully, they will do the right thing, taking into consideration the requirements constitutionally to be President. Great post Dawn, by the way, of past President Thomas Jefferson’s quotes.
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2008/dawns1213.htm
Considering where I think we are now prophetically having witnessed the apostacy, the falling away from the true faith in the United States , Barack will become the “President Elect”.
The person who “presumes” he will be the next President Elect has already appeared before the World on many occasions since November 4th as if he has already become the President Elect. He has even appeared with placard on the front of his podium that reads, “The Office of the President Elect”. There is no such office in Washington. He is not even yet the “President Elect”. What nerve! What audacity!
Some could say what “audacity of hope” during these past 40 days of trials and tribulations stretching from 11/5/08 to 12/15/08, knowing that at any moment his hopes of becoming the next President of the United States, or the next President Elect for that matter, might be dashed by the Supreme Court of the United States. So many lawsuits against him, so much money has been spent by him to have judges and elected officials ignore the fact that no hospital in Hawaii has any record of him being born at their hospital, (unless the Mombasa Coastal Hospital in Kenya has been recently annexed by Hawaii.).
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2008/jim124-1.htm
The falling away, the defection, the apostacy, has begun!
And as Ron Reese has pointed out, the man of sin has been revealed!
It can’t be long now – Hopefully 7 days!
Point to ponder which I don’t have an answer: One would think the 2 Witnesses are Spirit filled Believers. Why aren’t they taken in the Rapture?
Notes:
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; II Thessalonians 2:3
In Paul’s 2nd letter, he is reassuring the Thessalonians after what he had made in his 1st letter, that they had not missed the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ in the Rapture.
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. I Thessalonians 4:17
In his first letter Paul had told the Thessalonians about the Rapture and uses the word “harpazo” in I Thessalonians 4:17 to describe the Rapture.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G726&t=KJV
One will notice that II Thessalonians 2:3 does not have the word “harpazo”. Instead it states, “let no man deceive you”, that day, (that day which I’m anxiously looking forward to as were the Thessalonians, the Rapture) will not come without first the “falling away”. This “falling away” is from the Greek word “apostasia” from which we get our word “apostasy”.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G646&t=KJV
The definition for “apostasia” is “a falling away, defection, apostasy; in the Bible from the true religion”. To me, there is no denying that this has now happened.
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false prophet Ted Porter is using numerology to prophecy about yet another doomed-to-fail rapture date

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false prophet Ted Porter is "confirming" false prophet Daniel Matson's numerology false prophecies and regurgitating them so false prophet Daniel Matson can use false prophet Ted Porter's post as a "confirmation" for his false prophecies.

Anyone see an endless loop with the false prophets "confirming" each others false prophecies???

II Tim 4:3-4
3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/tedp327.htm
Ted Porter (27 March 2009) "April 27, 2009 Rapture Watch"
I’ve hesitated to post this too early as Passion Week is soon approaching and March 29 – April 11, 2009 will be earnestly watched.
Yet since Daniel Matson had brought it up about counting in 100 day increments which includes mentioning April 27, 2009:
Counting Off 100 Day Intervals
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/danielm326.htm
This gives another witness to my observation of having Christ’s number of 153 times 100 or 15,300 days since 6/7/1967 being April 27, 2009:
Re:The Titanic Disaster, March 31, 2009 & April 27, 2009 Rapture Watches
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/tedp32-1.htm
And even more interesting, not saying that the tribulation started 3 ½ years ago, but this source has the midpoint of the tribulation, which for mid-tribs is the Rapture day, amazingly also on April 27, 2009.
http://www.charlesberner.org/Daniel%204%20with%20Charts.pdfv
April 27, 2009 is arrived at by subtracting 1335 days (1260 +45) inclusively from 12/21/2012, the Mayan end date.
He has the tribulation starting on November 14, 2005 which is 1260 days before April 27, 2009. There was a Peace meeting with Israel on that date.
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unrepentant false prophet Ted Porter is still following chaneled demonic garbage

I emailed Ted Porter informing him of the chaneled source of the false prophecies he posted yesterday - and he is continuning to believe the demons and is making up more false teachings based on the demonic prophecies he posted yesterday (and the five demons ["doves"] owner continues to post the teachings by demons and posts that support those teachings)

Nothing like taking a false teaching, making many assumptions, and building your false doctrine on it.

[his date tables omited]
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2008/tedp1014.htm

Ted Porter (14 Oct 2008) "Will there be 42 Generations from Jesus Christ's 1st Coming to His 2nd Coming?"
Will there be 42 Generations from Jesus Christ's 1st Coming to His 2nd Coming just as there were 42 Generations from Abraham to Jesus Christ’s 1st coming?

This is a followup regarding:

"When is Jesus Returning? The Answer is 42!"
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2008/tedp1013.htm

That a prophetic jubilee, (49 times 360 days = 17,640 days), appears to work out to a biblical generation. And that there could be 42 generations from Creation to Abraham’s death.

Note that Jesus came 42 generations after Abraham.

So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations. Matthew 1:17

And looking up online when Abraham died we have:

http://www.bible-history.com/rome/RomeTimeline__Biblical_History.htm 1992 BC
http://www.adamictimeline.com/adamic10b.html 2038 BC using 360-day years after 725 BC

Referring to the table presented at the bottom of:
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2008/tedp1013.htm

This table won’t be repeated in this post except for the top and bottom shown below. But the table was not “corrected” for 360-day years after 725 BC:

Using either table, both online historical values 1992 BC and 2038 BC bound the “uncorrected” and the “corrected” table value for 84 generations from now. So, the hypothesis appears have merit.

Also, the difference between the “corrected” and “uncorrected” appears to be almost exactly another prophetic jubilee. From 725 BC to 4000 BC is 3275 years. Doing the calculations as to how many 360-day years instead of 365.2422 it takes to make one jubilee one has:

=49 * 360 /(365.242199-360) = 3365.000 years

The original calculation used 365.2422 which yielded 3364.999. Amazingly, increasing the accuracy by two more digits to 365.242199 allowed the EXACT calculation of 3365 years. Can this be an accident to be this precise, or is God allowing these calculations to be discovered in the last days?

Assuming 725 BC is correct, then adding 3365 years brings us to 4090 BC. The author has also seen sources quoting as recent as 701 BC which would bring one to 4066 BC. Again, using design as the guiding rule as to end exactly at 126 Jubilee’s by simply extrapolating the original table posted earlier another row, this comes to:

4077.558
4070.658

Which is almost identical to using 725 BC, the difference only being less than 0.2 years. The bottom line is this calculation would yield 4070.658 – 3365 = 705.658 BC.

Shalom,
Ted Porter
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oh brother - false prophet Ted Porter claims obama's infomercial was the "covenant with many" spoken of in Daniel

The false prophets always have to find something (anything) to fit their false prophecies. Now false prophet Ted Porter claims obama's infomercial was the "covenant with many" - never mind the scripture actually says 'CONFIRMS the SEVEN YEAR covenant with many'.

I can't believe how deceived and deluded the false prophets are even before the Holy Spirit's mission is changed back to how it was before He came to indwell believers.

Note the love feast between false prophet Ted Porter and false prophet Ron Reese.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/nov2008/tedp117-2.htm
Ted Porter (7 Nov 2008) "Re: Ron Reese (6 Nov 2008)
"OCT. 29, 2008 THRU SEPT. 23, 2015--HAVE WE ENTERED THE FINAL 7 YEARS???!" - Another piece of the Puzzle"
Re: Ron Reese (6 Nov 2008) "OCT. 29, 2008 THRU SEPT. 23, 2015--HAVE WEENTERED THE FINAL 7 YEARS???!" - Another piece of the Puzzlehttp://www.fivedoves.com/letters/nov2008/ronr116.htmWow! - Another piece of the puzzle. Well put together post.Barry Soetoro / BHO presented on October 29, 2008 and confirmed during a30-minutes "infomercial", right before the last game of the WorldSeries, acovenant, an agreement he was making with many, millions of American people,of what he would do if they elected him President in a week. And they did. Watching and Waiting!Shalom,TedP.S. This morning I kept thinking:I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another littlehorn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by theroots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouthspeaking great things. Daniel 7:8And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: andanother shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, andhe shall subdue three kings. Daniel 7:24 One down, two to go?
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false prophet Ted Porter agrees with false prophet Dave Camp in calling Messiah Yeshua a liar

false prophet Ted Porter is agreeing with false prophet Dave Camp in calling Messiah Yeshua a liar for saying that NO ONE KNOWS THE DAY OR THE HOUR OF HIS RETURN. Yet if they twists scripture to claim they can know the day or the hour of the rapture then why did they prophecy so many FAILED rapture dates in november 2008? and why are the prophecying so many rapture dates (some already failed) in december 2008??? and why are they already making rapture date predictions for the spring in case the rest of their 2008 rapture date prophecies fail???

false prophet Ted Porter is a DECEIVER and is leading his followers to worship tammuz on the winter solstice (december 21) and on tammuz birthday (december 25)

This is what Messiah Yeshua says regarding His return:

Matthew 24
36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.
48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
51And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2008/tedp1213-1.htm
Ted Porter (13 Dec 2008) "To Dave Camp and all Five Doves - No Man Knows (Is Intimate With) when Heaven and Earth Shall Pass Away!"
"Re: Tom Heinitz - Re: Dave Camp--No One Knows--But What
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2008/davec1212.htm
Dave – I know I had shared with you privately that I thought you had probably the best explanation and coverage of “No man knows” I have seen. Thought I should do so publicly, especially since I too did not see much public comment on Five Doves. Maybe, everyone read it and said, “that makes sense.” Those who read Five Doves are actually watching for His return in the Rapture and many already believe the Bible commands us to WATCH for His return. So, although preaching to the choir and coming up with what I thought was a point I had not seen before. That point was that “knows” in this context means in the sense of being intimate, such as Adam “knew” Eve, as opposed to having information. Many have focused on “knows” being “present tense” as to why no one knew, including Jesus, as opposed to no one being intimate with, such as a Jewish Holy Day, including Jesus. People have been told in some apostate churches, “no one knows” in regard to the Rapture, over and over, ad naseum, and never bothered to read the scripture to realize even with all this, it is talking about when Heaven and Earth shall pass away. Again, great article. This one is worth bookmarking!

"No man knows - but WHAT?http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2008/davec121.htm
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false prophet Ted Porter uses different number schemes to obtain the result he wants

Using the "right" number scheme Ted Porter = 666

In ASCII Bill Gates = 666

Jesus real name is YESHUA - using Jesus in a number scheme is dishonest (as well as unbiblical)

false prophet Ted Porter is still using the demon's change of $2.34 story that false prophet Jim Bramlett (and his partner John Tng) have been posting on the internet for years - they had no reason for doing this except it fit in their number scam (I mean scheme)

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2008/tedp121.htmTed Porter (1 Dec 2008) "Let Him with Understanding count "Barack" = "666""
Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. Revelation 13:18
Sounds like a clue to finding a treasure from an action adventure movie.
Why does this verse specify that “him that hath understanding” is required to count the number of the beast? Why does it say “Here is wisdom”? Why can’t just anyone count the name of the beast? Why can’t we just have a computer take names and find out which ones equal 666?
Well, using the common English Gematria, A=6, B=12, C=18, etc. it has been noticed that Barack’s newly appointed chief-of-staff Rahm Emanuel equals 666.

r 108
a 6
h 48
m 78
e 30
m 78
a 6
n 84
u 126
e 30
l 72

666

However, it took 0% wisdom to figure this out. And when we speak of “understanding”, anyone who can count would be able to add together Rahm Emanuel’s numbers to come to 666.
No there must be more. So what is Barack’s number?

b 12
a 6
r 108
a 6
c 18
k 66
216

Looking at this, one does not see 666. However, with wisdom and understanding one does, as one realizes that 6 times 6 times 6, 666, equals 216. For this reason, 216 is a number that has much “occultic” (hidden knowledge) significance.
Puzzle solved.
But there is more:
John Tng showed how Vincent Tan’s $2.34 points to Barack with a Hebrew Gematria for “Barak” in its first instance of 234:
http://www.fivedoves.com/rapture/2008/rapture2008_234.html
And the number 234 has 666 embedded in it not once, but twice, once by multiplication and once by addition.
Note 234 = (6 x 6 x 6) + (6 + 6 + 6)
Wow!
Note 1: An alternate numbering in Hebrew has been brought up for “Barak” of being 222. This is still (6 x 6 x 6) + 6. It is also interesting that 222 is 1/3rd of 666. “Jesus”, the Son of Man, in English Gematria is 444. So 222 for Barak, the son of division, is a half-image of Jesus. Is this also the answer to the clue of being the number of a man? Jesus is most often called the “son of man” in the Bible. 222 is a half image of the “son of man”, the number of a man. And 222 + 444 = 666.
Note 2 – No last name has been used but just “Barack”. Is this allowed? Barack’s proposed biological father had the last name of ‘Obama”. However, several objections can be made to using this name. First, any marriage Stanley Ann Dunham would have had to confer the last name of “Obama” would be null and void under American Law as Barack’s father was already married. Second, Barack was adopted by Lolo Soetoro. Third, no record of Barack legally changing his name to “Obama” has been found by the author or many others who have diligently searched. Barack apparently just took upon himself the last name of “Obama” through using documents, such as his “birth certificate”, which has been attested to by various experts as being forged. He has come in his own chosen last name.
I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. John 5:43
It could also be viewed that “Barack” is his name while “Obama” is the title he has taken upon himself. “O Ba Ma” in Persian it must be remembered means O = he/she/it, Ba = with, Ma = us. Remember that “Jesus” is the name while “Christ” is the title. “Christ” is “Messiah”, “one who is anticipated”, the “Savior of the Jews” and completes the title of “Jesus the Christ” or “Jesus the Messiah”.
Although, “Jesus”, being His name, means “God with Us”.
Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. Matthew 1:23
And we have come full circle with counting the numbers of the two Bible verses Matthew 1:23 and John 5:43 which 123 + 543 = 666.__Ted, I fully agree with you about the hidden nature of the number 666. It is hidden yet it is not impossible to figure out! Furthermore, it is meant to be figured out! I think I have figured it out! You don't need to be a rocket scientist to solve the riddle. But you do need to count to find the number 666. I was truly SHOCKED by what I found! Maybe I will post it tomorrow. Time is short!John
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false prophet Ted Porter - there isn't a false prophecy or a number (numerology) he doesn't like

false prophet Ted Porter seems to like all of the false prophecies (even the failed ones) and adds all sorts of numbers to come up with yet another rapture date.

Numerous false prophets have already decided Messiah Yeshua did not know what He was talking about when He said NO ONE WOULD KNOW THE DAY OR THE HOUR for His return and that we are to KEEP WATCH - and the false prophets said we CAN know the day - yet even after making that ridiculous statement, their rapture dates have repeatedly FAILED. If we can know the day as they claim, why have their dates failed???

Now the false prophets of the five demons ("doves") web site have us to believe Jesus appeared to one of them and said He would n0t come at a "Jewish feast" but will come on a "Christian feast" (up until constantine, the only Christian feasts were the Jewish ones - and they are still the only REAL Christian feasts) Now you have false prophets predicting that Messiah Yeshua will come back during tammuz' birthday (known as christmass) Since their "Jesus" said "christian feast" and they are predicting christmsass - it appears their "christ" (annointed one) is tammzuz - (ba-al) - the sun "god" and is not Messiah Yeshua!

Interestingly many catholics (satanists) post on the five demons ("doves") web site and no one there sees anything wrong with their beliefs.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/nov2008/tedp1125.htm
Ted Porter (25 Nov 2008)
"Can You Feel it in the Air? We must be in the Rapture Season!"

The word “Season” is found 55 times in the Bible per “Bible Plus”

John – Great Post Saturday! Can’t say enough.
http://www.fivedoves.com/rapture/2008/rapture2008_234.html
As I originally wrote this, I had anticipated posting for Monday. Guess we all are busy. But I had anticipated greatly John’s follow-up post as to how 234 brings us to a Rapture date in 2008. From Bob Ware’s post Monday I gathered that John’s date is either December 22nd or December 24th that would have been posted. Wow – either date has events such as Louis Romo posted Monday as subtracting 234 hours from the end of 2008 which I get 6:00 AM on December 22nd. As far as December 24th, that is Christmas Eve, a “Christian” holiday, which has also been considered. Of course, George W. is credited with saving the Revolution Christmas Eve in 1776 when he crossed the Delaware . But then that was 232 years ago not 234 years.
I personally like December 23rd from a straight numbers perspective:
We have October 29, 2008 + 55 = December 23, 2008
And November 4, 2008 + 49 (counting seven sevens) = December 23, 2008
But let’s not forget that December 21, 2008 at sundown is the start of Hanukkah, the winter solstice and 4 years exactly to December 21, 2012.
The one thing to me is there is no clear cut Rapture Watch date that most everyone seems to be focused on from now until the end of the year. And that may be just the point. If we hadn’t been watching for the Rapture we would we have missed seeing the appearance of the Evil One, the son of perdition, and the Strong Delusion. So many things we would have missed. But still, many of us can feel it in the air. It’s not just the “Christmas season”, it sure feels like the Rapture season.
I wanted to note that I haven’t given up on watching the American Thanksgiving yet either. Looks like I’m in good company with Diane Walker and Tex Armstrong:
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/nov2008/jim1124.htm
I even had been forwarded an email Sunday, along with other Doves where Calvin Montgomery had counted 234 weeks from Reagan’s death on Saturday, 6/5/2004. (If the week count includes Saturday, 6/5/2004, then 234 weeks would end on Friday, 11/28/2009, the day after the official observance of Thanksgiving in the United States of America .)
Thanksgiving, of course, is associated with giving thanks to God. As a side note, from Wikipedia.org regarding Thanksgiving and the Pilgrim’s, “The group’s charter REQUIRED (emphasis mine) that the day of arrival be observed yearly as a “day of thanksgiving” to God”.
John’s post led me in a different direction than Calvin and concluded with looking at the Oslo Accord which was signed on 9/13/1993. Adding 5555 days to this lands us on Friday, 11/28/2008. In other words, Thanksgiving Day, 2008, 11/27/2008, would be the 5555th day, inclusive. And Thanksgiving day is also a new moon!
One note of interest is the first Thanksgiving that was called “Thanksgiving” by the Pilgrims was in 1624 but it was actually a day of fasting and prayer.
http://www.socialstudiesforkids.com/articles/holidays/thefirstthanksgiving.htm
And exactly 150 years later the first public proclamation of Thanksgiving Day by an independent legislature of the Revolution was made:
http://64.233.169.132/search?q=cache:WXx_epVmw3AJ:www.harvardsquarelibrary.org/thanksgiving1774/thanksgiving1774_p4.html+1774+thanksgiving+independent&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us&client=firefox-a
But the significant note had already been struck. The Thanksgiving Proclamation of 1774, on the threshold of free government in America , was a call for gratitude with the same lasting power as when 150 years before their forefathers began their life in the New World with an act of Thanksgiving.

And 1774 + 234 = 2008.
Okay – Can’t discount the new “moonth” on December 1st as the Jupiter and Saturn alignment as brought out by “Crin”
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/nov2008/crin1122.htm
Taking 9/16/1993 which is when the Oslo accord was “confirmed”/ratified by Israel after being signed three days earlier, and adding 5555 days brings one to December 1st, 2008. And adding, 4 prophetic years to December 1st, 2008 of 360 days apiece brings one to the
We shall soon see.

Shalom,
Ted Porter__Thanks, Ted!I have not begun my part 2 yet as I am extremely busy. I think I can only start writing next week. :( But you are right. We are in the season. Any day from now on is possible.John
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false prophet Ted Porter - defends demonic channeled books

Now the five demons ("doves") are quoting demonic channeled material.

'Lord Jesus' is a demon that uses that name to deceive those who are open to deception (such as those who the censors allow to post on five demons ["doves"] )

Ted Porter is now using an obviously channelled demonic book to conjure up rapture dates.


Only partially quoted because of the length / demonic garbage it contains
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2008/tedp1013.htm

Ted Porter (13 Oct 2008)
"When is Jesus Returning? The Answer is 42!"

The Arithmetic of God
In 1976, a book was published called “The Arithmetic of God”. This book claims that its Author is Jesus Christ. Don Kistler, the one we could suppose is the author, lists himself as only the scribe.

How audacious a claim is that? Is Don suggesting this book is inspired by God as to put this book on the same level as the original Hebrew Bible? Sounds almost like blaspheme! Wasn’t John the Disciple the last to receive revelation from Jesus Christ that became the last book of the Holy Bible, around 95 AD? Well, there is no way to prove that assertion either.

But then, before we are too quick to judge, should we not first examine the book? Remember that Jesus Christ when He was on earth, claimed to be the Creator of the Universe, the Great “I AM”, GOD. This would be blaspheme and grounds for stoning, had it not been true. Can we be sure that Don Kistler’s claim is also not true?

After examining this book, the author could find no contradictions that the author of “The Arithmetic of God”, like the Holy Bible, was not indeed Jesus Christ, the Word. This book not only agreed with the Holy Bible but it complemented and even helped explain the Holy Bible. But, of course, everyone will need to reach their own conclusions. Assuming Don Kistler did receive “inspiration” from God, he rightfully should give credit for that inspiration, to God. The author himself, while not claiming any infallibility, acknowledges that he can do nothing without God’s help. The book has since been out of print for a while and Don Kistler has gone on to meet his great reward in Heaven.

The author also became convinced after reading The Arithmetic of God”, based on clues throughout the book, that Don Kistler had been given by God, foreknowledge of when Jesus Christ was returning. As such, the author wrote a letter to Don Kistler during the 1980’s asking him if he could be more specific as to when Jesus Christ would return. This was his response:

Greetings in Jesus name
Praise the Lord!

The Lord God Jesus gave me a sign to look for and I didn’t ask for the sign, but He gave it to me willingly. I wish I didn’t put that in the book, but the Lord Jesus told me too.

The Lord Jesus gave me the “Arithmetic of God” because one day I decided to fast and pray which, is reading the Word of God to find out when He was appearing. After days had
gone by He revealed to me that He is already here in His many membered body
called the sons of God. (Romans 8:14, Gal 4:5-7, I John 3:1-2)

The sign the Lord Jesus gave me was not to be reveal, but He will reveal the sign to all the sons of God. The sign is in the Word of God, the Bible KJV and people must read it and search the scriptures for the truth not hand-me-down man-made traditions and doctrines. We are in the
last days and enclose is a list of tapes of the teaching on the Bible. If you decide to really
know the Word of the Lord, I believe you will get a revelation on these teachings.

I hope you will understand and may the Lord Jesus continue to guide you in all truth.

In the Love of Jesus of
Nazareth
Bro Don

In examining this letter, Don gives several clues. The tone is remorseful that he could not reveal the sign foretelling the coming of the Lord Jesus as he was restrained by the Holy Spirit. Still he could say that the sign will be revealed to all sons of God. And the sign is in the KJV of the Word of God.
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Conclusion
Now let’s apply the number 42. Consider the first advent of the second coming of Jesus which will be in the clouds at the Rapture. Will it occur exactly 42 prophetic years to the day after the fulfillment of the sign of the end of the times of the Gentiles, Jerusalem Unification Day? Consider the reign of the beast foretold in the book of Revelation. Will it begin exactly 42 prophetic months after the Rapture of the Saints, the sons on God? And consider the second advent of the second coming of Jesus when He sets foot upon the Mount of Olives and ends the reign of the beast. Will it occur exactly 42 prophetic months after the start of the beasts reign, two times 42 prophetic months after the Rapture, to the day, on Yom Kippur, the Holiest day of the year? This would make the second advent of Jesus exactly 49 prophetic years or 7 prophetic weeks or one prophetic jubilee, to the day, past Jerusalem Unification Day to fulfill the 7 weeks of Daniel’s 70 week prophecy.

Consider the first advent of the second coming of Jesus to occur at the end of the term of the 42nd different president of the United States, (one president had two separate terms of office). Consider His coming signaling an inclusive seven-day warning before the next president of the United States is planned to be elected and a two times 42 day warning before the next president of the United States is planned to be inaugurated.

Consider periods of 49 prophetic years, which is 7 prophetic weeks, which is one prophetic jubilee, ending with the last prophetic week being October 29, 2008 – September 23, 2015. Counting backward it works out to the time from 28 AD to 35 AD. This would be the 42nd prophetic period when Jesus was cut off, crucified in the middle of this time. From then till just past 4000 BC, the time of Creation, would be another two times 42 prophetic periods. This would be the same as from now to then as three times 42 prophetic periods or prophetic jubilees. This whole period of Man’s lease on this planet earth totals 126 prophetic 49-year jubilee periods. Or put another way, the difference is 125 prophetic 49-year jubilee periods and 125 is 5 times 5 times 5. Below is a table of each 49 prophetic year period going back to Creation:

Shalom,
Ted Porter
porter@endofage.com
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