.
I can't believe how many narcissistic false prophets believe something that happens to them locally is a "sign of the rapture soon happening" when most other areas are not experiencing that "sign". False prophet Mary Anna is claiming the snow storm in the east coast is "a sign of His Soon Coming" --- maybe the record heat on the west coast is a "sign" the rapture is still years away??? Where in the bible does it say that snow is a sign of Messiah Yeshua's return???
News for this false prophet - the west coast is having record highs, it is summer in the southern hemisphere, and it's 55F in Jerusalem, Israel
Los Angeles, CA: 58F
San Francisco, CA : 58F
Portland, OR : 58F
Seattle, WA: 54F
Vancouver, BC: 53F
Honolulu, HI: 73F
Nuka'Alofa Tonga: 81F
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2010/marya26.htm
Mary Anna (6 Feb 2010)
"Happy Day..."
Colleen, daughter in Maryland called that it's snowing again! Va. son Karl emailed that 'the weatherman seems determined to get us more snow'. To think of the many, many winters there has been no snow in Va., can this not be a sign of His Soon Coming? This is not global warming! Colleen said, 'I'm never going to pray for snow again'! Weatherman said it could get up to 2 ft. deep in Md. If that happens it IS rare indeed.
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Exposing false prophets and false prophecies of those who call themselves Christians
Saturday, February 6, 2010
False prophet Bruce Warner is at it again - twisting scripture to prove his false doctrines
.
False prophet Bruce Warner teaches this twisted doctrine:
2 Thesselonians
2Th 2:6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
2Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
And now Daniel 9 which shows the antichrist must be revealed to confirm the seven year covenant which starts the seven year tribulation:
Daniel 9
Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
It also needs to be understood the last WEEK is about unsaved Israel and is to deal with them so they will accept Yeshua as their Messiah. This requires that the Restrainer be removed from indwelling of the people and goes back to the same ministry He had before the first Pentocost. The pre tribulation rapture needs to happen before the tribulation since it is the bride's wedding WEEK.
When the rapture happens, false prophet Bruce Warner (and the rest of the false prophets) will either not even notice or they will come up with some explanation why they were left behind.
Finally, why does false prophet Bruce Warner sign his posts "According to Your Word, come Lord Jesus! " if he doesn't believe it will happen for at least 3-1/2 more years???
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2010/brucew26-2.htm
Bruce Warner (6 Feb 2010)
"HERE IS THE KEY TO THE 'TIMING OF THE RAPTURE'"
Dear Doves,
The 'key' to the 'timing of the rapture' is the 'timing' of the anti-Christ's coming into his power in his own time. The two 'timings' are connected to one another because the anti-Christ is restrained, or held back, until the 'rapture' takes the "Restrainer out of the way".
So when is the proper time for the anti-Christ to be allowed to come into power in his own time?
Revelation 13:5
"The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise his authority for forty-two months."
These are the last 42 months of the '70th Week of Daniel' just before the 'Second Coming of the Lord'.
Therefore, the proper time for the anti-Christ to come into power in his own time is at the mid-point of the '70th Week of Daniel'.
2 Thessalonians 6-7
"And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way."
Therefore, it IS reasonable to assume that 'the rapture', which removes the 'Restrainer', occurs 'immediately prior' to the anti-Christ coming into power in his own time at the mid-point of the '70th Week of Daniel'.
According to Your Word, come Lord Jesus!
Bruce Warner
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False prophet Bruce Warner teaches this twisted doctrine:
"Therefore, it IS reasonable to assume that 'the rapture', which removes the 'Restrainer', occurs 'immediately prior' to the anti-Christ coming into power in his own time at the mid-point of the '70th Week of Daniel'."Scripture says the antichrist will be REVEALED when the restrainer is taken out of the way - it does NOT say this is when he will come into power at the mid point of the tribulation. Obviously the antichrist is revealed when he confirms the seven year covenant which is what starts the seven year tribulation. Notice that false prophet Bruce Warner leaves out verse eight which makes this perfectly clear:
2 Thesselonians
2Th 2:6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
2Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
And now Daniel 9 which shows the antichrist must be revealed to confirm the seven year covenant which starts the seven year tribulation:
Daniel 9
Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
It also needs to be understood the last WEEK is about unsaved Israel and is to deal with them so they will accept Yeshua as their Messiah. This requires that the Restrainer be removed from indwelling of the people and goes back to the same ministry He had before the first Pentocost. The pre tribulation rapture needs to happen before the tribulation since it is the bride's wedding WEEK.
When the rapture happens, false prophet Bruce Warner (and the rest of the false prophets) will either not even notice or they will come up with some explanation why they were left behind.
Finally, why does false prophet Bruce Warner sign his posts "According to Your Word, come Lord Jesus! " if he doesn't believe it will happen for at least 3-1/2 more years???
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2010/brucew26-2.htm
Bruce Warner (6 Feb 2010)
"HERE IS THE KEY TO THE 'TIMING OF THE RAPTURE'"
Dear Doves,
The 'key' to the 'timing of the rapture' is the 'timing' of the anti-Christ's coming into his power in his own time. The two 'timings' are connected to one another because the anti-Christ is restrained, or held back, until the 'rapture' takes the "Restrainer out of the way".
So when is the proper time for the anti-Christ to be allowed to come into power in his own time?
Revelation 13:5
"The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise his authority for forty-two months."
These are the last 42 months of the '70th Week of Daniel' just before the 'Second Coming of the Lord'.
Therefore, the proper time for the anti-Christ to come into power in his own time is at the mid-point of the '70th Week of Daniel'.
2 Thessalonians 6-7
"And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way."
Therefore, it IS reasonable to assume that 'the rapture', which removes the 'Restrainer', occurs 'immediately prior' to the anti-Christ coming into power in his own time at the mid-point of the '70th Week of Daniel'.
According to Your Word, come Lord Jesus!
Bruce Warner
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Friday, February 5, 2010
False prophet Calvin ("CW") - uses astrology to make predictions ("prophecies") - absolutely NO discernment on five demons ("doves") web site
.
False prophet Calvin ("CW") continually posts astrology and makes predictions ("prophecies") using the astrology and yet the antichrist ("christian") site five demons ("doves") always posts their astrology predictions and nobody says anything against it.
Once again, this is proof five demons ("doves") is a satanist site and is absolutely NOT Christian.
The rapture will appen very soon - and the five demons ("doves") false prophets will have a valid SOUNDING reason why they are still here - likely they will claim it was a "false rapture", "project bluebeam", or some other unbiblical garbage just like false prophet Calvin ("CW") is claiming "It is QUITE OBVIOUS that the Lord “CHOSE” a certain date for a semeion (a "sign") of Pleiades to appear in ML’s housel!!!!!!!!" to justify his unbilical astrology / divination.
Deuteronomy 18
9 "When you enter the land Adonai your God is giving you, you are not to learn how to follow the abominable practices of those nations.
10 There must not be found among you anyone who makes his son or daughter pass through fire, a diviner, a soothsayer, an enchanter, a sorcerer,
11 a spell-caster, a consulter of ghosts or spirits, or a necromancer.
12 For whoever does these things is detestable to Adonai, and because of these abominations Adonai your God is driving them out ahead of you.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2010/cw25.htm
C.W. (5 Feb 2010)
"The sign of Pleiades in ML's house; Feb., 2010 and Tony E's notes!!!!"
The sign of Pleiades in ML's house; Feb., 2010 and Tony E's notes!!!!
There DOES seem to be a fascination with Occultations ("hidings")
of Pleiades (which means, "the congregation of the judge or ruler").
2010 World Wide Occultations of the Six Brightest Pleiades
http://www.lunar-occultations.com/iota/pleiades/pleiades.htm
It is QUITE OBVIOUS that the Lord “CHOSE” a certain date for a
semeion (a "sign") of Pleiades to appear in ML’s housel!!!!!!!!
From:
ML (6 Oct 2009)
"RE: C.W. The Occultation in Pleiades during Tabernacles."
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2009/ml106.htm
I quote here a portion of my original email sent to Ps . Riley on September 18th, 2008, (3:11AM):-
"...One other thing I wanted to share with you is a vision and a sign starting back in 2006. On September 13th, 2006, I was praying with a sister and I saw a vision of a very large steel gate, like you might see on a castle or fortress. It was exceedingly heavy. As I watched, it came down slowly until it stopped a short space from the ground. It hovered as if suspended for a short space of time, the weight of it being held back for a pause of time. Then suddenly, without warning it crashed down with mighty force.The interpretation of this was given to me as a warning of great judgement preceded by a small but deliberate gap of time. Two days later, on the 15th September, 2006, the Lord gave me a vision over several days. In it He spoke about His soon coming for His Bride and detailed "How" He was going to get His people ready for His Coming. The timing of this seems to make sense to me now as the vision and revelation went from September 15th -18th. Then, exactly one year later, on September 18th, 2007, a 'sign' appeared in my house. It was a semeion of a constellation of stars. In awe, I asked the Lord, "What is that Lord?'' His simple, one word answer was "Pleiades". I knew that the word was in Job but that was all. That began a continuing study on what I could find in the Bible about "The Seven Stars", through which the Lord expanded on what He had told me in the vision a year earlier. The 'sign' in my house appeared fairly frequently at first and then periodically for the next 10 months - the last appearance was on July 20th, 2008."
The date of the “APPEARANCE” of Pleiades was 9/18/07 and, on that
night (9/17-18/06) before this "APPEARANCE", the moon was passing
the star cluster, M 44 (in Cancer), after leaving Gemini, the bride, and
heading for Leo, the Lion of the tribe of Judah. Perhaps there was
"something" about a "44th" president to be noted!?
...II Thessalonians:2 (Amplified Bible)
...3 Let no one deceive or beguile you in any way, FOR THAT DAY WILL NOT
...COME EXCEPT THE APOSTASY COMES FIRST [unless the predicted great
...falling away of those who have professed to be Christians has come], AND
...THE MAN OF LAWLESSNESS (sin) IS REVEALED, who is the son of doom
...(of perdition), 4 WHO OPPOSES AND EXALTS HIMSELF SO PROUDLY
...ANS INSOLENTLY AGAINST AND OVER ALL THAT IS CALLED GOD OR
...THAT IS WORSHIPED, [even to his actually] taking his seat in the temple
...of God, proclaiming that he himself is God.
M44 (Praesepe or Beehive Cluster) in Cancer
http://www.backyard-astro.com/focusonarchive/m44/m44.html
Beehive Cluster
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beehive_Cluster
But, the date of the "APPEARANCE" of Pleiades takes on a GREATER
meaning when you look at February, 2010!!!!! The Occultation of Pleiades
in February will be EXACTLY 888 "inclusive" days from the "APPEARANCE"
of the semeion ("sign") in ML's house where the Lord STRICKTLY told him
the meaning of this appearance - "PLEIADES"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
...From: Tues., Sept. 18, 2007 - a sign of "Pleiades" in ML's house
...To: Sun., Feb. 21, 2010 - Pleiades occulted over Africa***
...It is 887 days (or, inclusively, 888 days)
...888 = the Greek gematria for JESUS
...From: Tues., Sept. 18, 2007 - a sign of "Pleiades" in ML's house
...To: Monday, February 22, 2010 - 2/22
...It is 888 days
...888 = the Greek gematria for JESUS
***21 Feb 10 Occultation of ZC 552 (Alcyone)
http://www.lunar-occultations.com/iota/pleiades/0221zc552.htm
NOW LOOK BELOW AT A NOTE FROM TONY ELLSWORTH THIS AM!!!
BLESSINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Calvin
In a note written to me after I sent him the post, The Super Bowl
(a SEMEION event??) and Pleiades!!!, Tony wrote:
Calvin, good stuff brother. I too look at the Pleiades and my father’s car when I was growing up was a Subaru. I am looking at the Superbowl and February 22nd. I had been out of the country in the military, mostly in the South Pacific. As a citizen, I obtained a passport and took a trip out of the country in February 2000 to Rome to see the Coliseum. I was there 7 days. By the 7th day I became ill to the point of where my breathing was nearly cut off. When I came back to the U.S. they marked my passport departure February 22nd. My passport is expired this year 2010. I’ve always looked at this date. I always have felt I was “thrown down” in Rome. Just after this, on my birthday May 5th 2000 was the planet alignment and the movie Gladiator which came out on May 5th. Remember Maximus was thrown down. A general who became a slave, a slave who became a gladiator, a gladiator who defied the emperor.
Anyway, all significant to me…
Blessings,
Tony
(I wrote back)
Tony:
This is VERY incredible - what you have written!!!!!!!!!
Maybe this IS it!!!!!!!!! Maybe it IS this month, at least!!!!!!!!
The post about 2:22 being seen "4" ("earth; door") years ago makes
a LOT of sense when you ALSO consider the STEEL GATE ("door")
CLOSING and the "Semeion" event mentioned by ML. Of course,
there were "4" years in the Fig Tree Parable (which, personally, I have
believed a LONG time has to do with America)!!!
Your "dates" are VERY incredible!!!!!!!! Of course, your birthday on
May 5, 2000 (the "555" marriage announcement date) coming JUST
AFTER your "near death" in Rome (home of the Gladiators) and the
opening of "The Gladiator" seems MOST prophetic NOW!!!
(7 Oct 2009)
"ML's Steel Gate FALLS!!! [Pleiades (10/7)]"
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2009/cw107.htm
Sherry Yarbrough (23 Feb 2006)
"Seeing 2:22 What is the meaning?"
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2006/sherryy223.htm
THANKS VERY MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Calvin
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False prophet Calvin ("CW") continually posts astrology and makes predictions ("prophecies") using the astrology and yet the antichrist ("christian") site five demons ("doves") always posts their astrology predictions and nobody says anything against it.
Once again, this is proof five demons ("doves") is a satanist site and is absolutely NOT Christian.
The rapture will appen very soon - and the five demons ("doves") false prophets will have a valid SOUNDING reason why they are still here - likely they will claim it was a "false rapture", "project bluebeam", or some other unbiblical garbage just like false prophet Calvin ("CW") is claiming "It is QUITE OBVIOUS that the Lord “CHOSE” a certain date for a semeion (a "sign") of Pleiades to appear in ML’s housel!!!!!!!!" to justify his unbilical astrology / divination.
Deuteronomy 18
9 "When you enter the land Adonai your God is giving you, you are not to learn how to follow the abominable practices of those nations.
10 There must not be found among you anyone who makes his son or daughter pass through fire, a diviner, a soothsayer, an enchanter, a sorcerer,
11 a spell-caster, a consulter of ghosts or spirits, or a necromancer.
12 For whoever does these things is detestable to Adonai, and because of these abominations Adonai your God is driving them out ahead of you.
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2010/cw25.htm
C.W. (5 Feb 2010)
"The sign of Pleiades in ML's house; Feb., 2010 and Tony E's notes!!!!"
The sign of Pleiades in ML's house; Feb., 2010 and Tony E's notes!!!!
There DOES seem to be a fascination with Occultations ("hidings")
of Pleiades (which means, "the congregation of the judge or ruler").
2010 World Wide Occultations of the Six Brightest Pleiades
http://www.lunar-occultations.com/iota/pleiades/pleiades.htm
It is QUITE OBVIOUS that the Lord “CHOSE” a certain date for a
semeion (a "sign") of Pleiades to appear in ML’s housel!!!!!!!!
From:
ML (6 Oct 2009)
"RE: C.W. The Occultation in Pleiades during Tabernacles."
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2009/ml106.htm
I quote here a portion of my original email sent to Ps . Riley on September 18th, 2008, (3:11AM):-
"...One other thing I wanted to share with you is a vision and a sign starting back in 2006. On September 13th, 2006, I was praying with a sister and I saw a vision of a very large steel gate, like you might see on a castle or fortress. It was exceedingly heavy. As I watched, it came down slowly until it stopped a short space from the ground. It hovered as if suspended for a short space of time, the weight of it being held back for a pause of time. Then suddenly, without warning it crashed down with mighty force.The interpretation of this was given to me as a warning of great judgement preceded by a small but deliberate gap of time. Two days later, on the 15th September, 2006, the Lord gave me a vision over several days. In it He spoke about His soon coming for His Bride and detailed "How" He was going to get His people ready for His Coming. The timing of this seems to make sense to me now as the vision and revelation went from September 15th -18th. Then, exactly one year later, on September 18th, 2007, a 'sign' appeared in my house. It was a semeion of a constellation of stars. In awe, I asked the Lord, "What is that Lord?'' His simple, one word answer was "Pleiades". I knew that the word was in Job but that was all. That began a continuing study on what I could find in the Bible about "The Seven Stars", through which the Lord expanded on what He had told me in the vision a year earlier. The 'sign' in my house appeared fairly frequently at first and then periodically for the next 10 months - the last appearance was on July 20th, 2008."
The date of the “APPEARANCE” of Pleiades was 9/18/07 and, on that
night (9/17-18/06) before this "APPEARANCE", the moon was passing
the star cluster, M 44 (in Cancer), after leaving Gemini, the bride, and
heading for Leo, the Lion of the tribe of Judah. Perhaps there was
"something" about a "44th" president to be noted!?
...II Thessalonians:2 (Amplified Bible)
...3 Let no one deceive or beguile you in any way, FOR THAT DAY WILL NOT
...COME EXCEPT THE APOSTASY COMES FIRST [unless the predicted great
...falling away of those who have professed to be Christians has come], AND
...THE MAN OF LAWLESSNESS (sin) IS REVEALED, who is the son of doom
...(of perdition), 4 WHO OPPOSES AND EXALTS HIMSELF SO PROUDLY
...ANS INSOLENTLY AGAINST AND OVER ALL THAT IS CALLED GOD OR
...THAT IS WORSHIPED, [even to his actually] taking his seat in the temple
...of God, proclaiming that he himself is God.
M44 (Praesepe or Beehive Cluster) in Cancer
http://www.backyard-astro.com/focusonarchive/m44/m44.html
Beehive Cluster
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beehive_Cluster
But, the date of the "APPEARANCE" of Pleiades takes on a GREATER
meaning when you look at February, 2010!!!!! The Occultation of Pleiades
in February will be EXACTLY 888 "inclusive" days from the "APPEARANCE"
of the semeion ("sign") in ML's house where the Lord STRICKTLY told him
the meaning of this appearance - "PLEIADES"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
...From: Tues., Sept. 18, 2007 - a sign of "Pleiades" in ML's house
...To: Sun., Feb. 21, 2010 - Pleiades occulted over Africa***
...It is 887 days (or, inclusively, 888 days)
...888 = the Greek gematria for JESUS
...From: Tues., Sept. 18, 2007 - a sign of "Pleiades" in ML's house
...To: Monday, February 22, 2010 - 2/22
...It is 888 days
...888 = the Greek gematria for JESUS
***21 Feb 10 Occultation of ZC 552 (Alcyone)
http://www.lunar-occultations.com/iota/pleiades/0221zc552.htm
NOW LOOK BELOW AT A NOTE FROM TONY ELLSWORTH THIS AM!!!
BLESSINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Calvin
In a note written to me after I sent him the post, The Super Bowl
(a SEMEION event??) and Pleiades!!!, Tony wrote:
Calvin, good stuff brother. I too look at the Pleiades and my father’s car when I was growing up was a Subaru. I am looking at the Superbowl and February 22nd. I had been out of the country in the military, mostly in the South Pacific. As a citizen, I obtained a passport and took a trip out of the country in February 2000 to Rome to see the Coliseum. I was there 7 days. By the 7th day I became ill to the point of where my breathing was nearly cut off. When I came back to the U.S. they marked my passport departure February 22nd. My passport is expired this year 2010. I’ve always looked at this date. I always have felt I was “thrown down” in Rome. Just after this, on my birthday May 5th 2000 was the planet alignment and the movie Gladiator which came out on May 5th. Remember Maximus was thrown down. A general who became a slave, a slave who became a gladiator, a gladiator who defied the emperor.
Anyway, all significant to me…
Blessings,
Tony
(I wrote back)
Tony:
This is VERY incredible - what you have written!!!!!!!!!
Maybe this IS it!!!!!!!!! Maybe it IS this month, at least!!!!!!!!
The post about 2:22 being seen "4" ("earth; door") years ago makes
a LOT of sense when you ALSO consider the STEEL GATE ("door")
CLOSING and the "Semeion" event mentioned by ML. Of course,
there were "4" years in the Fig Tree Parable (which, personally, I have
believed a LONG time has to do with America)!!!
Your "dates" are VERY incredible!!!!!!!! Of course, your birthday on
May 5, 2000 (the "555" marriage announcement date) coming JUST
AFTER your "near death" in Rome (home of the Gladiators) and the
opening of "The Gladiator" seems MOST prophetic NOW!!!
(7 Oct 2009)
"ML's Steel Gate FALLS!!! [Pleiades (10/7)]"
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2009/cw107.htm
Sherry Yarbrough (23 Feb 2006)
"Seeing 2:22 What is the meaning?"
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2006/sherryy223.htm
THANKS VERY MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Calvin
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Wednesday, February 3, 2010
False prophet "Pineman" - smooth sounding lies sound like the truth to those with no discernment
.
False prophet "Pineman" has such smooth sounding lying doctrines that they sound like truth to those with little or no discernment. False prophet "Pineman" false doctrine is that "if we disobey the gospel, we are lost forever" and then goes on to define "the gospel" as that Messiah Yeshua (Jesus) died and atoned for our sins and rose again on the third day. Those who believe the demonic lie of once saved, always saved (OSAS) teach this doctrine. How can you "obey the gospel" when all it is is accepting "Jesus as Savior " (most people want a Savior from hell but refuse to accept Yeshua as LORD of their lives )
The truth is while we need to accept Yeshua as Savior (from hell), we also need to accept Him as LORD of our lives. Following someone as Lord demands OBEDIENCE. The term Messiah means (Lord + Savior) - it was separated into it's components of Lord and Savior by those who refuse to obey God as Yeshua commanded us to. Messiah Yeshua even stated He will reject those who claim to be His if they disobey God (and His Torah)
Matthew 7
KJV
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
NASB
21 Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.
22 Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?'
23 And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'
Iniquity means sin (disobeying God). Lawless means disobedience of God's instructions - Torah.
False prophet "Pineman" is correct in that "Disobedience means damnation" but he is incorrect when he claims it is "disobedience of the gospel" (which apparently means accepting Yeshua as Savior from hell) when Messiah Yeshua said He will only save those that obey God (His Torah)
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2010/pineman23.htm
Pineman (3 Feb 2010)
"Disobedience equals Damnation"
Dear John & Doves:
We are told that if we disobey the Gospel then we are lost forever. And what is that Gospel? The Gospel is that only Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross can save us from our sins – past, present and future. No human being, including ourselves, can accomplish that task.
As of today (Feb. 3, 2010) there are 60 days till First Fruits. One possible scenario for the ending of the Church age and the beginning of the Tribulation could very well begin April 4, 2010, which is First Fruits. Click here for the rest of the story.
Pineman
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False prophet "Pineman" has such smooth sounding lying doctrines that they sound like truth to those with little or no discernment. False prophet "Pineman" false doctrine is that "if we disobey the gospel, we are lost forever" and then goes on to define "the gospel" as that Messiah Yeshua (Jesus) died and atoned for our sins and rose again on the third day. Those who believe the demonic lie of once saved, always saved (OSAS) teach this doctrine. How can you "obey the gospel" when all it is is accepting "Jesus as Savior " (most people want a Savior from hell but refuse to accept Yeshua as LORD of their lives )
The truth is while we need to accept Yeshua as Savior (from hell), we also need to accept Him as LORD of our lives. Following someone as Lord demands OBEDIENCE. The term Messiah means (Lord + Savior) - it was separated into it's components of Lord and Savior by those who refuse to obey God as Yeshua commanded us to. Messiah Yeshua even stated He will reject those who claim to be His if they disobey God (and His Torah)
Matthew 7
KJV
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
NASB
21 Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.
22 Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?'
23 And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'
Iniquity means sin (disobeying God). Lawless means disobedience of God's instructions - Torah.
False prophet "Pineman" is correct in that "Disobedience means damnation" but he is incorrect when he claims it is "disobedience of the gospel" (which apparently means accepting Yeshua as Savior from hell) when Messiah Yeshua said He will only save those that obey God (His Torah)
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2010/pineman23.htm
Pineman (3 Feb 2010)
"Disobedience equals Damnation"
Dear John & Doves:
We are told that if we disobey the Gospel then we are lost forever. And what is that Gospel? The Gospel is that only Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross can save us from our sins – past, present and future. No human being, including ourselves, can accomplish that task.
As of today (Feb. 3, 2010) there are 60 days till First Fruits. One possible scenario for the ending of the Church age and the beginning of the Tribulation could very well begin April 4, 2010, which is First Fruits. Click here for the rest of the story.
Pineman
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satanist web sites now being promoted on five demons ("doves") web site
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I really cannot believe a web site that uses a demon (griffin) as an advertising logo is being promoted on five demons ("doves") web site - and the satanist has the nerve to say the griffin was a "christian symbol" in the past. griffins are demons and were used in the babylonian mystery religions.
http://books.google.com/books?id=pr8-i1iFnIQC&pg=PA100&lpg=PA100&dq=griffin+demon&source=bl&ots=325eVk1phr&sig=8uqSgRpnh_4krszG3Fbbq45vTg4&hl=en&ei=VdNpS4PkD4vasQPbvfmfBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CBoQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=griffin%20demon&f=false picture of a griffin demon
http://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/highlights/highlight_objects/me/i/griffin-headed_ivory_figure.aspx
I really cannot believe a web site that uses a demon (griffin) as an advertising logo is being promoted on five demons ("doves") web site - and the satanist has the nerve to say the griffin was a "christian symbol" in the past. griffins are demons and were used in the babylonian mystery religions.
http://books.google.com/books?id=pr8-i1iFnIQC&pg=PA100&lpg=PA100&dq=griffin+demon&source=bl&ots=325eVk1phr&sig=8uqSgRpnh_4krszG3Fbbq45vTg4&hl=en&ei=VdNpS4PkD4vasQPbvfmfBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CBoQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=griffin%20demon&f=false picture of a griffin demon
http://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/highlights/highlight_objects/me/i/griffin-headed_ivory_figure.aspx
Ivory carvings were widely used to decorate important pieces of furniture in
antiquity. This very fine example may have been part of a throne. Griffin-headed demons were protective deities, and would therefore have been appropriate as giving divine protection to the throne's occupant.
Why would a "christian" use a demon as a logo and then try and pass it off as a "christian symbol" ???
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2010/cam22.htm
Carol Ann Marshall (2 Feb 2010)
"new site for job seekers"
Hi John,
I've been a long time "reader" of the Five Doves site and often recommend it to my friends. With the current unemployment situation in the U.S., many are suffering now. Six months ago, I felt led to develop a website for jobseekers. My logo is a "griffin." With the head of an eagle and the body of a lion, the griffin was an early symbol of Christianity.
I'd like to let your readers know about our website. They can go to jobgriffin.com and create their own "My Griff" page, much like a Facebook page, and include a video resume, as well as appropriate photos, links to their social/professional networking sites, etc.
We will soon be introducing the site to employers and now is the time to sign up. It is a totally free service for jobseekers and we don't bother them with advertising, etc.
Thanks, John, and God bless your work!
Carol Ann Marshall
jobgriffin.com
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Yes, Carol, I remember you.
John
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