False prophet Ted Porter claims 793 billionares is a "sign"

In typical false prophet fashion, false prophet Ted Porter claims that a 666 in the lottery last year was a "sign" and thae fact that there is 793 billionares is a "sign.

My questions: a "sign" for what???

Is it a "sign from God" or is it a lying sign and wonder God allows because the false prophets are disobedient andwould rather see lying signs (and wonders) rather than obey Him and walk in His Torah ???

If it was a sign from God (it isn't) then HE would state what it is a sign of. In the bible, whenever God gave a sign, He stated what the sign meant. An example of this is the rainbow. God said it was a sign He would never destroy the entire earth by a flood. He didn't just place a rainbow in the sky and say it was a sign and then leave us guessing what it was a sign of.

Matthew 24:24 "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect."

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Ted Porter (25 Nov 2009)
"Supernatural SIGNS - Wow John - Isn't God Wonderful!"

John – Really enjoyed your article.

http://www.fivedoves.com/rapture/2009/2009_signs.html

It does amaze me of all the supernatural signs God has given everyone who is watching to where they will be without excuse. I was really blown away regarding the frequency of the 666 lottery in 2008 versus 2009 and the 793 billionaires. Boy, it sure points to me also this antichrist conquering not by armies but by economics.

Something I found a few weeks ago and just blew me away which I was reserving for Chapter VIII of “The Lawless One” but couldn’t wait any longer. I don’t know exactly how to share this without enough background material for people to understand and not possibly jump to the wrong conclusions, but suffice it to say that Ray Mabus, the recently appointed Secretary of the Navy, is our Methuselah, he is our canary, so to speak, he is our sign in the Novel anyway, of the coming Rapture.

Believing that Ray Mabus, through his death, would be intimately involved with the Lawless One becoming who he is to become, I thought it would be just like God to have them intimately involved in birth as well. I also thought, wouldn’t it be just like God to place exactly 13 prophetic years between their two births. I noticed that Mabus was born in 1948 so it was roughly 13 years. But then I opened up my spreadsheet and typed in one cell the birthdate of Ray Mabus. In another cell I then added to this date the product of 13 times 360. It landed exactly on the birthdate of the lawless one. Even though I expected it, I got goosebumps all over my body. It was a God moment.

If that wasn’t enough, I thought that Mabus could connect the last antichrist, Adolph Hitler, with the current. I then took his birthdate and subtracted from it the date Adolph Hitler died. It came to exactly 1260 days, on the dot. Here we have such a prophetic number, the number of days, 1260, which is equivalent to 42 prophetic months and 3 ½ prophetic years, (3 ½ times 360). Here is the number mentioned so often in prophetic scripture, (1260 days in Revelation 11:3 and 12:6, 42 months in Revelation 11:2 and 13:5, 3 ½ times in Daniel 7:25 and 12:7 and Revelation 12:14). Definitely another God moment!

- Shalom!
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Thanks, Ted!

Kevin discovered that the English ordinal 6-6 gematria of President Barack Hussein Obama Second is 666 + 666 + 666. The inclusion of II (Second) behind the name is interesting.

Guess what? The English gematria of US PRESIDENT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA SECOND is 1948 !!!

John
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false prophet Ted Porter is using numerology to prophecy about yet another doomed-to-fail rapture date

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false prophet Ted Porter is "confirming" false prophet Daniel Matson's numerology false prophecies and regurgitating them so false prophet Daniel Matson can use false prophet Ted Porter's post as a "confirmation" for his false prophecies.

Anyone see an endless loop with the false prophets "confirming" each others false prophecies???

II Tim 4:3-4
3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

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Ted Porter (27 March 2009) "April 27, 2009 Rapture Watch"
I’ve hesitated to post this too early as Passion Week is soon approaching and March 29 – April 11, 2009 will be earnestly watched.
Yet since Daniel Matson had brought it up about counting in 100 day increments which includes mentioning April 27, 2009:
Counting Off 100 Day Intervals
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/danielm326.htm
This gives another witness to my observation of having Christ’s number of 153 times 100 or 15,300 days since 6/7/1967 being April 27, 2009:
Re:The Titanic Disaster, March 31, 2009 & April 27, 2009 Rapture Watches
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/tedp32-1.htm
And even more interesting, not saying that the tribulation started 3 ½ years ago, but this source has the midpoint of the tribulation, which for mid-tribs is the Rapture day, amazingly also on April 27, 2009.
http://www.charlesberner.org/Daniel%204%20with%20Charts.pdfv
April 27, 2009 is arrived at by subtracting 1335 days (1260 +45) inclusively from 12/21/2012, the Mayan end date.
He has the tribulation starting on November 14, 2005 which is 1260 days before April 27, 2009. There was a Peace meeting with Israel on that date.
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false prophet Ted Porter has received two confirmations that a LIE is truth

These fruitcake false prophets will believe any LIE is "confirmed" if they receive two emails saying the same thing (unless, of course, it is Truth). There is absolutely NO discernment on the five demons ("doves") web site - they are all willfully deluded false prophets who would rather believe any LIE than believe the Truth.

false prophet Ted Porter claims to have received two emails claiming the two witnesses of Revelation becan their ministry the same day obama gave his infomercial (october 29, 2008) even though there is absolutely NO REAL EVIDENCE to support this LIE- and, oh yes, false prophet Ted Porter has been "rewarded" for his false prophecies by being told the name of the two witnesses (who he does not disclose to anyone)

false prophet Ted Porter and the rest of his ilk on the five demons ("doves") web site will be eternally punished unless they repent of their wickedness.

2 Timothy 3
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as their's also was.

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Ted Porter (2 March 2009) "The Two Witnesses Have Begun to Prophesy as of October 29th/30th, 2008"
And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. Revelation 11:3

But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. Matthew 18:16

After posting the following which scripturally establishes the identity of the two witnesses:

(28 Feb 2009)"Where is Elijah and the Identity of the Two Witnesses"
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2009/tedp228.htm

I received two independent emails from Christian brothers that confirmed to me in my Spirit that the two Witnesses have indeed begun to prophesy. And they began on October 29th/30th 2008.
I felt awed by God that He would reveal to me, now, THROUGH HIS WORD, and THROUGH HIS SPIRIT, the identity of the Two Witnesses. Which is another confirmation to me that the LORD’s two witnesses, HIS WORD and HIS SPIRIT, have indeed begun to prophesy.
The time is short.
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God. Revelation 2:7

Shalom -
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false prophet Tony Ellsworth is again extending his failed rapture date prophecy

false prophet Tony Ellsworth prophecied the rapture would be december 25, 2008 and it failed. He then conjured up another rapture date prophecy of february 2, 2009 and it failed so he extended it to february 6, 2009 which also failed so then he prophecied the rapture would be on february 11, 2009. It is now only february 9 and false prophet Tony Ellsworth is already extending his failed rapture date prophecy to february 15, 2009.

As for "42" for "stands for the return of Jesus Christ" - that is something made up by the demons false prophet Ted Porter consults and he posted about it last fall:
http://falseprophetwatch.blogspot.com/2008/11/false-prophet-ted-porter-still-hanging.html

When will this happen? We are told to Watch. But the again, the answer
isstill 42!"When is Jesus Returning? The Answer is 42!"
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2008/tedp1013.htm

valentines day is a satanic holiday. it has NOTHING to do with love. it is a lust sin day revered by pagans - and, once again, shows the false prophets of the five demons ("doves") web site worship tammuz (AKA ba-al) http://www.biblestudy.org/basicart/what-is-true-origin-of-valentines-day.html

Nimrod - Baal or sun god [tammuz] of the ancient pagans - was said to have been born at the winter solstice. In ancient time the solstice occurred on January 6 and his birthday therefore was celebrated on December 25 and now called Christmas. It was the custom of antiquity for, the mother of a male child to present herself for purification on the fortieth day after January 6 - Nimrod's original birthdate - takes us to February 15, the celebration of which began on the evening of February 14 - the Lupercalia or St. Valentine's Day.

On this day in February, Semiramis, the mother of Nimrod, was said to
have been purified and to have appeared for the first time in public with her son as the original "mother and child."

http://www.lasttrumpetministries.org/tracts/tract6.html

The priests of Lupercus, the wolf god, would sacrifice goats and a dog and then smear themselves with blood. These priests, made red with sacrificial blood, would run around Palatine Hill in a wild frenzy while carving a goatskin thong called a “februa.” Women would sit all around the hill, as the bloody priests would strike them with the goatskin thongs to make them fertile. The young women would then gather in the city and their names were put in boxes. These “love notes” were called “billets.” The men of Rome would draw a billet, and the woman whose name was on it became his sexual lust partner with whom he would fornicate until the next Lupercalia or February 14th.

Thus, February 14th became a day of unbridled sexual lust. The color “red” was sacred to that day because of the blood and the “heart shape” that is popular to this day. The heart-shape was not a representation of the human heart, which looks nothing like it. This shape represents the human female matrix or opening to the chamber of sacred copulation.

Does no one see what is wrong here? Will anyone on the five demons ("doves") site ever admit the site is filled with false prophets like Tony Ellsworth that are doing satan's work???

link to the satanic ouija board ("bible wheel") removed
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Tony Ellsworth (9 Feb 2009) "Looking at February 9 - 15!!! event horizon"
It has been said that 42 is the number for Jesus returning. Here is a prior post from Ted Porter if you want to read more about 42 & the coming of Jesus (see all those prior posts are still valuable!!! – good job Ted!!!)
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2008/tedp1013.htm
I came across this date calculation almost “accidentally” but it was too intriguing to not communicate, so here it is…
I’m looking at this week very, very carefully. On Monday we have Tu B’ Shevat, Apollo 14, Full Snow Moon & the lunar eclipse – hello!!!!
Tuesday has the Israeli elections and also is supposed to be the day that the “spendfest” bill passes. All the while “Mt. Redoubt” is casting out steam, showing its ready to “rumble”…
So I’m looking at February 9 – 15. This Friday will be the 1st of 3 Friday the 13ths which is rare for a year to have. Fits Obama and everything that is going on.
Anyway, some are looking at June 7, 1967 and its 42 year anniversary coming up w/ good reason. I don’t look that far ahead. Even though I’m constantly mentioning dates, what I’m attempting to do is watch what I consider to be the prophetic “event horizon.” I feel that’s what God taught me to do when I was in the Navy.
There are two different year calculations a person could go by 360 & 365. I’m not sure why I thought of splitting the difference, but I did. This number is 362.5
If you take 362.5 X 42 years you get 15,225 even.
Depending on if you use June 6th or 7th 1967 or if you use inclusive or exclusive counting this can be off by as much as a couple of days. That’s why I’m watching the whole week. But here is the daycount:

From date: Wednesday, June 7, 1967
Added 15,225 days
Resulting date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009
You could figure this several ways and it is a different day in Israel than U.S. based on time zones, etc. So, this is why I always use a 72 hour window. Plus, as it says in Hosea “…he will raise us up on the third day”

February 12th happens to be the 42nd day of the year, and the day right before the 1st Friday the 13th (1 of 3), also February 12th is the 200th anniversary of Darwin Day.

Also, as has been mentioned by others, 2701 is the gematria for Genesis 1:1 and From Rosh Hashanah 2001 (7 days after 9/11) to Tu B’ Shevat full moon is:

From and including: Tuesday, September 18, 2001To, but not including : Monday, February 9, 2009
It is 2701 days from the start date to the end date, but not including the end date
And:

From and including: Tuesday, September 11, 2001To, but not including : Wednesday, February 11, 2009
It is 2710 days from the start date to the end date, but not including the end date
The gematria for 2710, which is a rearranging of the Genesis 1:1 gematria is rather “condemning” and clearly 9-11 was a warning (it also talks of refuge):

[link removed]

Valentine’s Day is a day representing “love” and who invented that??? Satan can never cover that up or take it away!!! That is what our Rapture watch is all about – God’s love for us and our love for Him!!!

John 3:16 (King James Version)
16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Maranatha!!!!
Tony
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false prophet Vincent Joseph prophecied the rapture would be on feb. 6, 2009 - now that prophecy has failed he is now saying it will be feb. 11, 2009

The false prophets have been exposed - yet they are still loved and accepted on the five demons ("doves") web site

http://falseprophetwatch.blogspot.com/2009/02/false-prophet-vincent-joseph-claims.html

I know i am being pretty bold in saying that our eternity with the Lord Jesus will begin sometime over this coming Feb 5-6, 2009. I just don't see how else you can explain all the 11:11s signs, dreams and visions that so many Christians have seen

As for "42" for "stands for the return of Jesus Christ" - that is something made up by the demons false prophet Ted Porter consults and he posted about it last fall:

http://falseprophetwatch.blogspot.com/2008/11/false-prophet-ted-porter-still-hanging.html

When will this happen? We are told to Watch. But the again, the answer isstill 42!"When is Jesus Returning? The Answer is 42!
"http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2008/tedp1013.htm

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Vincent Joseph (7 Feb 2009) "Re: Tony Ellsworth & 41"
Hi Tony, may i make a humble sugestion to your rapture calculations. Add one more day to your equation and you have day 42 of the year. Wednesday Feb 11, 2009. The bibical number 42 stands for the Return of Jesus Christ hey, either way-its just fine with me. Our rapture either next Tuesday or Wednesday sounds just great !!!
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false prophet Ted Porter - infatuated with numerology and omens.

Ted Porter has a thing for numbers - even though G-d forbids numerology and interpretation of omens. NOWHERE does false prophet Ted Porter even try to show his numerology and satanic garbage is in the bible - because it is NOT and G-d forbids the satanic garbage he is posting about.

II Tim 4:3-4
3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."

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Ted Porter (29 Jan 2009) "Interesting Time: Friday the 13th right before Midnight UT on February 13, 2009 - 23:31:30"
Unix Time, which counts the number of seconds past 00:00 Universal Time on January 1st, 1970, will be at the exact second on February 13, 2009, 23:31:30, equal to:
1234567890
This can be confirmed by using a spreadsheet and inserting the date 1/1/1970 in one cell and inserting in another cell the sum of the first cell plus 1234567890/60/60/24 (to convert the number of seconds to days).
This can also be confirmed by using an online calendar converter such as:
http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/calendar/
While this date has a lot to draw interest to it, I am not convinced at this time that it is in regard to the Rapture of the Church.
Discussion:
Because Friday the 13th will happen in 2009 during February in a non-leap year, March will also have a Friday the 13th. In other words, back to back, Friday the 13th. Also, November in 2009 will have a Friday the 13th. So there will be three Friday the 13th’s in 2009. Normally, the distribution would be one Friday the 13th on average every 7 months. However, in 2010 there is only one Friday the 13th during the year. And in 2011 there is only one Friday the 13th. But in 2012 there are again three Friday the 13th’s. These are interestingly clustered in January, April, and July. In other words this could be stated as three months before April, in April, and again, three months after April.
April 11th, 2012 has been proposed before by the author as the possible start date for the Great Tribulation. It is 1260 days before Yom Kippur, September 23, 2015, the proposed day for the return of Christ. It has also been suggested that this could be the day the two witnesses could be killed and lay dead for 3 ½ days (through Friday the 13th), in parallel to Christ’s passion, before being resurrected.
Interesting!

Shalom, Ted Porter
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false prophet Reese resurfaces - now claims his failed rapture date prophecy of january 11, 2009 was just a "potential date"

false prophet Ron Reese twisted scripture and made it say (under protest) that the rapture would be on january 11, 2009 according to the bible. false prophet Ron Reeese was obviously WRONG and insgtead of apologizing and repenting for his false prophecies he is now claiming it was just a "potential rapture date" (but isn't EVERY day a "potential rapture day" ???)

false prophet Ron Reese claims that obama is the antimessiah and he confirmed his covenant with americans during his october 29, 2008 infomercial and he added 75 days to it (still a mystery why) to come up with the rapture being on january 11, 2009 (which failed) he is now claiming that the first seal judgement was opened on january 20, 2009 (he is saying this to "prove" obama is the antimessiah) false prophet Ron Reese added nine days to his failed prophecy of january 11, 2009 - which just so happenes to have been obama's inauguration day (surprise surprise - a false prophet always adds days to their failed prophecy and claims it meant something different than what they prophecied it meant)

false prophjet Ron Reese is giving false demonic prophecies and he is NOT a Christian - he is an evil agent of satan. Does NO ONE on the five demons ("doves") site have ANY discernment???

II Tim 4:3-4
3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

2 Timothy 3
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as their's also was.

2 Peter 2
1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

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Ron Reese (26 Jan 2009) "DSEAL #1 OPENED WITH OBAMA--NEXT IS SEAL #2--SUDDEN DESTRUCTION AND RAPTURE!!!"
Hi John and Doves, This is my first post since Jan. 11, which many of us saw as a date with real potential to be the date of the Sudden Destruction/Rapture. When many things seem to be pointing to one date, as a watchman, I feel it is my duty to sound the trumpet, because I have a real burden for those who are not ready. Although there was no Rapture and there was no Sudden Destruction, it is still a possibility that Jan. 11, 2009, was the first day of a 2520-day Tribulation, which would culminate on Dec. 6-7, 2015, on the eve of Hanukkah, which is 75 days (Daniel 12:12) after the final day of the 70th Week of Daniel, Sept. 23, 2015, on Feast of Atonement. It was just NINE days after Jan. 11 that the first seal judgment in Revelation was opened. Nine is the number of finality or divine completeness from the Lord. It is also possible that the 70th Week of Daniel and the Tribulation are the exact same 2520 days, and that the 75 days of Daniel 12:12 are just an add-on period of time at the end of the 2520 days of the Tribulation and the 70th Week of Daniel, before the 1000-year reign of Christ begins. I see only two other possibilities for the start of the Tribulation. One is that the Great Tribulation of 1260 days spoken of several times in Revelation covers the entire Tribulation period. This is not a new theory. It has been around for a long time. It is a very difficult theory for me to subscribe to for many reasons, but I cannot entirely rule it out because I am totally convinced that the 70th Week of Daniel began on Oct. 23, 2008, the day Obama confirmed the convenant of Daniel 9:27. Of the four remaining possibilities as to the start of the Tribulation, this last one is the one that I am leaning towards. It is the shortened 2300-day Tribulation that Marilyn Agee, Ted Porter, and others have been talking about. Dan. 8:14 refers to a 2300-day period, which has been another one of those mysteries of the end-times for a long time. I am a firm believer in progressive revelation, concerning these last days. I believe progressive revelation MAY be showing us a 2300-day period within the 2520-day 70th Week of Daniel. IF that is what the Lord is showing us, the start of the shortened 2300-day Tribulation would probably be on June 6-7, 2009. This is the 42nd anniversary of the Six-Day War, when Israel re-captured Jerusalem on June 6-7, 1967. This is the day of the budding of the fig tree. This is the day when most prophetic scholars agree that the final generation before Christ returns began. FORTY-TWO is the number of the 2nd Coming of Christ and the number of the Rapture, according to Ed Vallowe's "Biblical Mathematics". I concur with Ted Porter, that this could very well be a VERY significant day to WATCH for. June 6-7, 2009, is definitely a day to mark on your calendar. Let's review. In my opinion there are four possibilities for the FIRST day of the Tribulation: 1. Oct. 29, 2008, the day of the confirming of the Dan. 9:27 covenant, the first day of the 70th Week of Daniel. This would mean that the Tribulation and the 70th Week of Daniel are the exact same periods, which is the traditional view. 2. Jan. 11, 2009, because so much pointed to this day, and because 2520 days would take us to Dec. 6-7, 2015, the probable starting date on the Eve of Hanukkah, for the 100-year reign of Christ. Nine days after Jan. 11, 2009, the first seal in the Book of Revelation was opened. 3. The Great Tribulation of 1260 days, or 3 1/2 years, comprises the entire Tribulation. This would put the first day in 2012. This is my least likely choice, for many reasons that I will not go into right now. 4. There is a 2300-day (Dan. 8.14) shortened Tribulation. If the ending date is Feast of Atonement, Sept. 23, 2015, the day Christ returns at the Battle of Armageddon, this would put the 1st day of the 2300-day Tribulation on June 6-7, 2009, EXACTLY 42 YEARS (the number of the Rapture) AFTER ISRAEL RE-CAPTURED JERUSALEM, thrusting the world into the final countdown to the end. It is from this EXACT same date that we arrive at Sept. 23, 2015, the FINAL DAY OF THE 70TH WEEK OF DANIEL. We do this by multiplying one complete Jubilee cycle 7 X 7 X 360 days (a Jewish year), and adding that number to June 6-7, 1967. The result is Sept. 23, 2015, Feast of Atonement. What an awesome God we serve!!! This fourth theory is the one that I am leaning towards because it all seems to fit. Traditionally, the opening of the first seal in Revelation is attributed to the coming to power of the Antichrist. After doing a Greek word study of Rev. 6:1-2, I am convinced that we have just witnessed the opening of the first seal. Rev. 6:1-2 says, "And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow: and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer." On Jan. 20, 2009, Barack Hussein Obama received his "crown", the Presidency of the U.S., the world's #1 superpower. I know that he will live in the White House, and possibly we can make a connection to the white horse (possibly someone else can shed some light on this white horse). It is the words "bow" and "conquer", that inspired me to do a word study on these verses. The traditional view is that the Antichrist has a bow, but no arrows. The traditional view of the "conquering" in these verses is military conquests. Neither seem to apply to the current political and military situations of the U.S. Certainly, the U.S. has more than enough "arrows", with the largest nuclear arsenal in the history of the world. "Conquering", as in military conquests, hardly seems to fit our country either. Perhaps this will soon change with the Sudden Destruction, which VERY possibly could involve the U.S. Perhaps Obama will be given a new "crown", as President of the World, or President of the New World Order, and begin subjecting all countries to the power and rule of this one-world government. In the Greek, this particular word for "bow" is only found this one time. I am not sure why the description is describing a verb, instead of a noun, but the meaning of "bow" in this verse, is to produce, bear, be born, bring forth, be delivered, be in travail. When I saw "be delivered", and "be in travail", I really perked up. Obama is being received by the main populace of the U.S. and the whole world, as the "deliverer", the "saviour", the one who will save the world from military and economic destruction. To "be in travail", is a perfect description of our world today. The world thinks they have found their "saviour", who will "deliver" them from the problems and despair in the world today. I Thess. 5:3 says, "...then SUDDEN DESTRUCTION cometh upon THEM, AS TRAVAIL UPON A WOMAN WITH CHILD, and THEY shall not escape. The "thunder" heard as the Antichrist came to power on Jan 20, 2009, I believe is the announcement that a HUGE STORM is coming soon. Thank the Lord, that Jesus is our shelter in the time of storm. This leads me to my next and final point of this post. The FIRST SEAL has just been opened. The SECOND SEAL cannot be far behind. This is what happens next on God's calendar, friends. Read it for yourself, in Revelation 6:3-4, "And when he had opened the SECOND SEAL, I heard the second beast say, Come and see. And there went out another horse that was red: and POWER was given to him that sat thereon TO TAKE PEACE FROM THE EARTH, and that THEY SHOULD KILL ONE ANOTHER: and there was given unto him A GREAT SWORD (nuclear weapons?). I believe the opening of the SECOND SEAL IS THE SUDDEN DESTRUCTION/RAPTURE. It could be any day now, friends. The whole world has been "in travail" for a long time now. The baby is about to be born. This will involve the beginning of the NEW WORLD ORDER, with Obama as their "Messiah". This will involve the birth of the Tribulation on this sinful, unsuspecting world. It is my opinion, that our Blessed Hope, the Rapture of the Bride, will be simultaneous with this opening of the SECOND SEAL, the Sudden Destruction, when the rider of the red horse is sent forth. These are certainly exciting, even breathtaking, times that we are currently living in. Exciting for those who are spiritually ready, and a literal "Hell on earth", for those who are not. If we are already in the Tribulation, we very well may not have until June. It could be any day now. The FIRST SEAL HAS BEEN OPENED. THE SECOND SEAL, THE RED HORSE RIDER, IS SOON TO FOLLOW!!! ARE YOU READY? Luke 21:34-36 says, " And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting (partying), and drunkenness, and CARES OF THIS LIFE, and so THAT DAY come upon you unawares. For as a SNARE (trap) shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch ye therefore, and pray always that YE MAY BE ACCOUNTED WORTHY TO ESCAPE (THE RAPTURE) ALL these things that shall come to pass and to stand before the Son of man (Jesus)." Maranatha! Ron Reesergreese49@aol.com
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false prophet Gary Rich thinks failed prophecies cause people to follow G-d

I have never seen such convoluted thinking in my life. The false prophets claim they get the rapture date straight from the bible and call those who do not believe their false prophecies 'unbelievers' (or worse) and when that "rapture date" false prophecy fails - they go on without missing a beat and give more false rapture date prophecies - no apology - no admittance that their prophecy was wrong - NOTHING but new false prophecies.

Only those who are willingly deceived will follow a false prophet and the false demon "god" they serve - ba-al (aka - tammuz, mithra, etc.)

The false prophets are the five foolish virgins who believe they have time to go off and buy oil (do things for G-d) because they are watching a future date. The five wise virgins are anxiously awaiting the Bridegroom to arrive at any time and they have continually done the L-rd's work and are prepared for His any time soon return.

Fruitcake false prophet Gary Rich completely and totally agreed with satanist false prophet Ron Reese that the tribulation started on october 29, 2008 with obama's infomercial (making obama the antimessiah) and that there was 75 days after that until the rapture (which was january 11, 2009) They even took Daniel's prophecies that related to the end of the tribulation and falsely (and deceptively) applied the prophecies to the time between obama's infomercial and the failed false prophecy rapture date of january 11, 2009 (never mind the book of Daniel says 45 days and there is not even 75 days mentioned in Daniel's prophecy as false prophet Ron Reese and false prophet Gary Rich claim)

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/jan2009/garyr112-2.htm
Gary Rich (12 Jan 2009) "Rapture Warnings = Soul Winning"
It would be quite normal to play monday morning quarterback and pick apart what went wrong with all our prophecy timelines , 111s, dreams ,visions etc that all pointed to a major event happening yesterday, Sunday Jan 11th. But before that happens, may i remind us all that rapture watching is guess work, its not an exact science. No one i know of has received an e-mail from God yet as to the exact day for His returni am truly surprised that nothing seemed to have happened yesterday of any major bibical importance. Let alone the hopes for our rapture. Jan 11th had so much going for it to be a hopeful day for our rapture flight. Remember - we have been wrong many times since the 1988 rapture movement. But we only need to be right just oncei believe many of the rapture watch dates we have had over the years served as warnings to wake up the Christian church and the secular world. The rapture warnings that went out during the summer of 1988 help win many lost souls into God's Kingdom. There was a mighty soul winning harvest that summer when the rapture warnings went out. And born out of that rapture alert summer came several evangelistic ministry's. Many of us woke up to realize that Jesus is coming back soon and we better get busy sharing the Good News of Jesus Christ with people around us. I know, i am one of them. I started my evangelism tract ministry after all the excitement that Fall of 1988 was over. No Jesus didn't come back then, but knowing that the rapture was coming moved me to have compassion for winning lost souls to Jesus Christ. And i have been passing out salvation tracts & bibles on beaches, in parking lots, campgrounds and special public events ever sinceThe Left Behind rapture book series has won many people to Christ all over the world. That is what rapture warnings are all about. Alerting people to how close Judgement Day really is. Yes those of us who already know Jesus benefit, we get all excited about going to our eternal homes in heaven. But think of how many people over the last 20 years have come to know Jesus as their Savior thru rapture alerts, rapture books, rapture warnings, rapture internet forums like this onedo we how many people have accepted Christ in just the last couple of weeks thinking that His return was going to happen on Jan 11th, and they didn't want to be left behind. We don't , but God doesGod has sent us end-time messengers to give us warnings about just how soon Jesus is coming back. God even said he would send us servants to let us know when He is going to return. I enjoy being a rapture watcher, i love knowing what's happening in the bible prophecy world. Most Christians are clueless as to just how close the return of Jesus is, we aren't. So i thank God for sending us watchmen to alert us, like the NASA engineer who wrote the 1988 rapture reasons booklet. And current bibical watchmen like Hal Lindsey, Grant Jeffery, Ron Reese, Ted Porter, and so many otherskeep giving us warnings watchmen, cause you never know when one of the dates you give us will be The Day when Jesus does finally return !!!
God Bless, Gary
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false prophet Ted Porter - abandoned his Chanukah prophecy and is now looking for santa clause rapture

false prophet Ted Porter is now abandoning his Chanukah december 21 rapture day prophecy and is now looking for ba-almass eve because "if Reindeer can fly that one “magical” night of the year, why not us? (Remember the word “magical” has as its root, the word “magi”) "

false prophet Ted Porter is also claiming Messiah Yeshua's conception was on yule - a celebration of ba-al (tammuz) on december 24. false prophet Ted Porter fits in with this season - what a fruitcake!

The Magi did not see Messiah Yeshua until He was two years old - long past ba-almass as false prophet Ted Porter alludes to their 'ba-almass visit at His birth' false doctrine accepted by the so-called "church"

2 Peter 2
1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2008/tedp1219.htm
Ted Porter (19 Dec 2008) "Tis the Season to Consider Christmas Eve"
Tis the Season to Consider Christmas Eve
Doug Corley is working long hours this Holiday Season so he asked if I could pass on some reasons he saw for watching the day before Christmas. I also went ahead and verified the date calculations and took the liberty to embellish a little at the beginning. Who knows, if Reindeer can fly that one “magical” night of the year, why not us? (Remember the word “magical” has as its root, the word “magi”)

Calendar calculations were verified using:
http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/calendar/

Consider the date 9-29-2 BC, Gregorian (Julian 1720965.5) for Y’shua’s birth. And consider his ministry starting at age 30, and having a ministry of 3 ½ years with His resurrection from the dead and ascension being on 4-3-33 AD, Gregorian (Julian 1733205.5). This would have been for a period of 12,240 days.

Consider this could point to 12/24

Also consider that He was conceived 280 days (inclusive) before 9-29-2 BC which would place His conception by the Holy Spirit on 12-24-3 BC, Gregorian, Christmas Eve. Let's bring that forward and say this too is prophetic to 12-24-2008.

Consider:
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2008/dougc415.htm
12,240 is the total gematria of Acts 13:41 [exclusive]
Behold, ye despisers, and wonder, and perish: for I work a work in your
days, a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you.

12,241 is the total gematria of 2 Ti 4:8 [inclusive]
Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord,
the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all
them also that love his appearing.

Despisers are excluded but those who love his appearing are included. Those are the
ONLY two verses with exact gematria of 12,240 and 12,241.

1224 is one of the most sacred numbers in text -
http://www.biblewheel.com/gr/gr_1224.asp
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2008/dougc417.htm
Conception = Dec 24 = 12-24 = His life span - 12240 = 1224 x 10

We celebrate Christmas as His birth but the indications are that it was
His conception. http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2008/bonnieg417.htm
1224 = Fishes (Greek)
1224 = The net (Greek)
1224 = "Great is the Lord, and greatly to be praised in the city of our God, the mountain of His holiness (Psalm 48:1)
1224 = God's creation (Greek)
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false prophet Ron Reese - false prophet Ola Ilori's prophecy failed so add eight days to it

Nothing like adding days to a false prophecy when it fails to keep the false prophecy "alive" for awhile longer (or until people forget about it)

false prophet Ron Reese, once he realized false prophet Ola Ilori's prophecy failed, just added another 8 days to it - to make it fit the same timeframe as all the other false prophets are prophecying for the rapture? and to make his "tribulation began on october 29, 2008 when obama gave his infomercial" false teaching ?

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2008/ronr1215-2.htm
Ron Reese (15 Dec 2008) "Re: Ola Ilori's suggested Rapture Date of Dec. 12, 2008"
Ola Ilori suggested Dec. 12, 2008, as the possible Rapture Date, based on a date of Oct. 21, 2008, being the 1st day of the 70th Week of Daniel. He used Oct. 21, 2008, because it was the last day of Feast of Tabernacles this year. May I respectfully suggest that we move all of the timetable that Ola suggested ahead by 8 days. According to Daniel 9:27, the 1st day of the 70th Week of Daniel, is when the Antichrist confirms a covenant with many for one week (of 7 years). As most of you know, I remain steadfast in my firm belief that the Lord revealed to me that the confirming of the covenant by Obama, took place on Oct. 29 (Oct. 30 in Israel), 2008. Seven Jewish years later, or 2520 days, Jesus will return on Feast of Atonement, Sept. 23, 2015, the date that is surrounded by numerous timelines and signs. This Oct. 29-30, 2008, date for the first day of the 70th Week of Daniel is 8 or 9 days later than the timeline suggested by Ola, in another one of his excellent posts. So, if we move this whole timeline ahead by 8 or 9 days, we come to the possible Rapture Date of Dec. 20-21, 2008, the same EXACT DATE that I, and several others on 5 Doves have been pointing toward. There are, indeed, several things pointing to the Dec. 20-21 (or possibly Dec. 20-24), 2008. We certainly do not have long now to find out if this is our long-awaited time. I pray that each one of us will continue to do as the Lord commands us to do in Luke 21:36, "Pray always that ye be accounted worthy TO ESCAPE all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man (Jesus)." Ted Porter has suggested the Electoral College electing Obama as our President on Monday, Oct. 15, 2008, could qualify as a 7-day warning of a possible Dec. 21, 2008 Rapture. Using Jewish inclusive reckoning, which counts the 1st day and the last day, this would be 7 days. If anyone sees anything else this week that could possibly qualify as a 7-day warning for any of the days of Dec. 20 thru Dec. 24, 2008, please let the rest of us Doves know. Ron Reesergreese49@aol.com
Thanks Ron. John
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false prophet Ted Porter once again touting the "amero" currency

false prophet Ted Porter claimed the united states would be using a new currency - the amero - by october 2008. Now he is all excited because people are trying to make money on obama's popularity and minting non-negotiable coins (ie: cannot be used to buy anything) and thinks that means obama's picture may be on this ficticious amero currency.

Anyone can mint any round object and call it a coin - does not mean that is is legal currency. Apparently a fact that escapes the little mind of false prophet Ted Porter.

false prophet Ted Porter makes up any numbering system to fit what he wants it to say - and he says americans have no discernment and have "fallen into apostasy" for accepting obama as the president elect? Seems he does not know what the bible says about numerology or false prophets.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2008/tedp1215-2.htm
Ted Porter (15 Dec 2008) "Will the Amero Euro Currency be the Mark of the Beast? Will it bear his Image?"
And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image. Revelation 16:2
Already, before he is even the “president elect”, there are coins that have been minted that bear his image.
http://coins.about.com/od/coinbuyingadvice/a/obama_coins.htm
https://www.officialobamacoin.com/Default.aspx?MID=523702
http://www.goldobamacoin.com/
https://www.obamacoins.tv/flare/next?tag=EDSMGOTM
The Euro replaced the Deutsche “Mark” or German “Mark” in 1999.
http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?s=german+mark&gwp=13
If all goes as apparently planned, the Amero will replace the American and Canadian Dollar along with the Mexican Peso in 2009. This combined Amero and Euro currency or “Mark” could apparently become the “Mark” or currency of the Beast.
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Revelation 13:17
What is the number of this combined Amero Euro Mark in the vetted a=6, b=12 numbering system?
a 6
m 78
e 30
r 108
o 90

e 30
u 126
r 108
o 90

666
Should we expect anything else?
Shalom,
Ted Porter

Looking Up!
Notes:
The following is speculation on how all this will be implemented, based on what the Bible reveals.
And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's. Matthew 22:20-21
The word Caesar became Kaiser and was the title of the Emperors of the “Holy Roman Empire” from 962 AD to 1806 AD, and in Germany till Adolph Hitler took the place of the last Kaiser in Germany . Money has been measured in “Mark’s” in Germany , the same word used in describing the “Mark” of the Beast. Will the new currency be a Mark on a Ledger, or debit, the value of which changes? Current debit cards are usually 16 digits. Will the Amero Euro Mark be 18 digits broken up into 6 and 6 and 6?
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: Revelation 13:16
While many have speculated that something will be embedded either on or in people’s right hands or their foreheads, what happens if this is not what is meant? Will these many be deceived? What if it is actually receiving in their right hand, the Amero Euro currency, a free handout as has been promised to everyone who does not currently pay taxes. However, it states everyone, even the rich will get this possibly free handout. What about their foreheads? This is their mind, in their foreheads. A physical mark would be on their foreheads but the Bible states IN their foreheads. They could possible be told an Amero Euro Mark number, like a debit card number.
Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. Revelation 7:3
And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads. Revelation 9:4
This sealing in Revelation 7:3 and 9:4 uses the same terminology. This is not thought to be a physical mark on their forehead but something else, something possibly placed in their mind akin to the saving knowledge of Our Lord Jesus Christ!

O Lord, Come Quickly!
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false prophet Ted Porter claims the united states is in apostacy because it accepts obama as the president elect???

false prophet Ted Poerter is a verified false prophet and who associates with false prophets that are involved in ba-al worship. He lacks any discernment and is in apostacy yet he claims the united states has no discernment and is apostate because they accept the fact that obama is the president elect???

Remember, false prophet Ted Porter read demon channeled material and the demons told him when the rapture date would be --- "42" (without giving a meaning to it)
http://falseprophetwatch.blogspot.com/search?q=ted+porter

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2008/tedp1215-1.htm

Ted Porter (15 Dec 2008) "Will the "Assumed" "President Elect" Actually Become the "President Elect" Today?"
http://www.newemergencypreparedness.com/office-of-the-president-elect/
Will the “Assumed” “President Elect” actually become the “President Elect” today, December 15, 2008? (Barack has already “assumed” the title). The elected representatives from all 50 states will meet today to elect the next President of the United States of America . That is what makes the United States a Republic. We elect representatives to “represent” us and to actually elect the next President of the United States . Prayerfully, they will do the right thing, taking into consideration the requirements constitutionally to be President. Great post Dawn, by the way, of past President Thomas Jefferson’s quotes.
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2008/dawns1213.htm
Considering where I think we are now prophetically having witnessed the apostacy, the falling away from the true faith in the United States , Barack will become the “President Elect”.
The person who “presumes” he will be the next President Elect has already appeared before the World on many occasions since November 4th as if he has already become the President Elect. He has even appeared with placard on the front of his podium that reads, “The Office of the President Elect”. There is no such office in Washington. He is not even yet the “President Elect”. What nerve! What audacity!
Some could say what “audacity of hope” during these past 40 days of trials and tribulations stretching from 11/5/08 to 12/15/08, knowing that at any moment his hopes of becoming the next President of the United States, or the next President Elect for that matter, might be dashed by the Supreme Court of the United States. So many lawsuits against him, so much money has been spent by him to have judges and elected officials ignore the fact that no hospital in Hawaii has any record of him being born at their hospital, (unless the Mombasa Coastal Hospital in Kenya has been recently annexed by Hawaii.).
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2008/jim124-1.htm
The falling away, the defection, the apostacy, has begun!
And as Ron Reese has pointed out, the man of sin has been revealed!
It can’t be long now – Hopefully 7 days!
Point to ponder which I don’t have an answer: One would think the 2 Witnesses are Spirit filled Believers. Why aren’t they taken in the Rapture?
Notes:
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; II Thessalonians 2:3
In Paul’s 2nd letter, he is reassuring the Thessalonians after what he had made in his 1st letter, that they had not missed the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ in the Rapture.
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. I Thessalonians 4:17
In his first letter Paul had told the Thessalonians about the Rapture and uses the word “harpazo” in I Thessalonians 4:17 to describe the Rapture.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G726&t=KJV
One will notice that II Thessalonians 2:3 does not have the word “harpazo”. Instead it states, “let no man deceive you”, that day, (that day which I’m anxiously looking forward to as were the Thessalonians, the Rapture) will not come without first the “falling away”. This “falling away” is from the Greek word “apostasia” from which we get our word “apostasy”.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G646&t=KJV
The definition for “apostasia” is “a falling away, defection, apostasy; in the Bible from the true religion”. To me, there is no denying that this has now happened.
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false prophet Ted Porter agrees with false prophet Dave Camp in calling Messiah Yeshua a liar

false prophet Ted Porter is agreeing with false prophet Dave Camp in calling Messiah Yeshua a liar for saying that NO ONE KNOWS THE DAY OR THE HOUR OF HIS RETURN. Yet if they twists scripture to claim they can know the day or the hour of the rapture then why did they prophecy so many FAILED rapture dates in november 2008? and why are the prophecying so many rapture dates (some already failed) in december 2008??? and why are they already making rapture date predictions for the spring in case the rest of their 2008 rapture date prophecies fail???

false prophet Ted Porter is a DECEIVER and is leading his followers to worship tammuz on the winter solstice (december 21) and on tammuz birthday (december 25)

This is what Messiah Yeshua says regarding His return:

Matthew 24
36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.
48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
51And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2008/tedp1213-1.htm
Ted Porter (13 Dec 2008) "To Dave Camp and all Five Doves - No Man Knows (Is Intimate With) when Heaven and Earth Shall Pass Away!"
"Re: Tom Heinitz - Re: Dave Camp--No One Knows--But What
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2008/davec1212.htm
Dave – I know I had shared with you privately that I thought you had probably the best explanation and coverage of “No man knows” I have seen. Thought I should do so publicly, especially since I too did not see much public comment on Five Doves. Maybe, everyone read it and said, “that makes sense.” Those who read Five Doves are actually watching for His return in the Rapture and many already believe the Bible commands us to WATCH for His return. So, although preaching to the choir and coming up with what I thought was a point I had not seen before. That point was that “knows” in this context means in the sense of being intimate, such as Adam “knew” Eve, as opposed to having information. Many have focused on “knows” being “present tense” as to why no one knew, including Jesus, as opposed to no one being intimate with, such as a Jewish Holy Day, including Jesus. People have been told in some apostate churches, “no one knows” in regard to the Rapture, over and over, ad naseum, and never bothered to read the scripture to realize even with all this, it is talking about when Heaven and Earth shall pass away. Again, great article. This one is worth bookmarking!

"No man knows - but WHAT?http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2008/davec121.htm
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false prophet Ted Porter is promotoing other false prophets AND the december 21, solstice rapture date

Nothing like celebrating tammuz birthday - the winter solstice - by claiming Messiaqh Yeshua will return then (although maybe He will - and leave the tammuz worshipers to celebrate tammuz birth on december 25!) Even if the rapture happens when one of the false prophets prophecy it will, G-d is using it as a test to see who really loves him:

Deuteronomy 13
1 If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a miraculous sign or wonder, 2 and if the sign or wonder of which he has spoken takes place, and he says, "Let us follow other gods" (gods you have not known) [ie: tammuz / ba-al included] "and let us worship them," 3 you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The LORD your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 It is the LORD your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him. 5 That prophet or dreamer must be put to death, because he preached rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt and redeemed you from the land of slavery; he has tried to turn you from the way the LORD your God commanded you to follow. You must purge the evil from among you.

christmass (and easter) is ba-al / tammuz worship and those who prophecy and then lead you to celebrate feasts of tammuz / ba-al are leading you to other "gods" - and is what the above passage is speaking about.

G-d says numerology is an ABOMINATION and those that use it are false prophets. false prophet Ted Porter is leading you to worship tammuz and his feasts (winter solstice / christmass) he is an ABOMINATION to G-d.

Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."

II Tim 4:3-4
3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

Matthew 7
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2008/tedp1213-3.htm

Ted Porter (13 Dec 2008) "December 21, 2008 Rapture Watch and Discussions on Revelation's Number of the Beast"
Rapture on 12/21?
Regarding the many who are watching 12/21 for a Rapture date including:
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/nov2008/tedp1125.htm
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/nov2008/marilyna1126.htm
What else is left to describe 12/21/08 besides being the first day of Hanukkah which is most likely the conception day of Jesus Christ, and the Winter Solstice, and 4 years to the Mayan doomsday date of 12/21/12, and the number seen in Valerie’s and others “Sky Blue 21”, and 21 being 7+7+7, 777 being the number of the Cross and following 666? Did I miss anything?
Consider that the representatives of the United States Electoral College may vote for the NEXT PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES on December 15th. The person they may select, the person who currently has the most electoral college representatives, is expected by many to turn out to be the FIRST BEAST in Revelation, the much talked about “false christ” or antichrist. Counting December 15th through December 21st is seven days. Talk about your 7 day warning!
7 Day Warning
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Matthew 24:24
One literal interpretation is that the “elect” in the above scripture which shall be deceived, if it were possible, are those “elected” to the United States Electoral College. And that it will not be possible to deceive the very elect because the Supreme Court will have voted to disqualify the “President Elect”. Time is running out for this to happen.

While we are on the subject. The real issue may come down to, not that the “President Elect” was in fact, not born in Hawaii , or the United States for that matter. The real issue may be that he made false statements to federal employees and submitted falsified documents to federal agencies attesting that he was. Remember, Martha Stewart was never convicted nor spent time in jail because of any “insider trading” she may or may not have done. Martha Stewart was convicted and spent time in jail because she was judged as making false statements to federal employees. It’s hard to “lead” the country from jail.
Of course, one explanation that was in a post on “Five Doves” having to do with ”important information for all Doves” is that the fix is in from the White House on down. That America is currently being held hostage by Arab terrorists who have verifiable weapons of mass destruction planted in many US cities. They may have allowed duplicate weapons of mass destruction to be found so their demands would be met. And their demands were that their “Manchurian Candidate” or “Sleeper” would be elected the next President of the United States . The post stated that since 2005, GWB has been different. So, there may be other reasons America has not suffered terrorists attacks since 9/11. One can picture the current President and others objecting, stating, “but he’s not a “natural born citizen””. To which the reply could have been, “not our problem”.
It sure appears that the fix is in, even possibly to the Supreme Court. The major mass media has sure been silent, including those conservative commentators one would think would be trumpeting this obvious problem every chance they had. The liberal media is not going to bring it up and a Presidential visit to conservative commentators with appeals to saving millions of lives could buy a lot of silence.
But back to Matthew 24:24. It is interesting that the same base word for “deceive” as in this scripture is used in a current popular book. That book takes its title from the “President Elect’s” autobiography, “The Audacity of Hope” and changes it to the “The Audacity of Deceit”. Tell me about it. How can someone who knows they do not qualify as a “natural born citizen” and who became a Lawyer specializing in “Constitutional Law”, have the audacity to run for the President of the United States ? Doesn’t this remind one of Hitler’s “Big Lie” idea? That most people will lie regarding small items, but most people would not dream that someone would have the audacity to lie regarding something as big as where they were born.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Lie
Another more general and more widely accepted interpretation of Matthew 24:24 is that the “elect” are the 5 wise virgins that shall be raptured before the false Christ comes into his kingdom.
And the word, “false” describes perfectly someone who has from all appearances, falsified his place of birth, his birth certificate, and his very heritage, (his father considered himself primarily as Arab, not Black, and the Bedouin Arabs claim him as one of their own. It is interesting that “Barack” spelled backward ends in the word “Arab” and “Obama” spelled backwards starts with “Am a”).
And, while it has been shown that “Barack” in the “vetted” English code A=6, B=12, C=18, etc. equals 216, which is 6 times 6 times 6, the title and name “False Barack Obama” in the same fashion equals the number 666.
And for the record, “barack” in just A=1, B=2, etc. still equals 6 times 6 and in ASCII Computer Code still equals 612 which is 216 backward.
Also for the record, in ASCII Computer code “bill ayers”, the supposed real author of “barack’s” first autobiography, is 98+105+108+108+32+97+121+101+114+115=999, which is 666 upside down.
http://www.cashill.com/natl_general/obama_did_not_write.htm

A=6, B=12
While doing a search of the internet with “A=6, B=12” one will find this code has been used extensively well before now, and with “Santa Claus”, “Mark of Beast”, “Computer”, “New York” also equaling 666.
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2006/barrya1011.htm
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2004/mattb1020.htm
http://www.physicsforums.com/archive/index.php/t-23421.html
And “ New York ” has been considered by many as being “mystery babylon ” and fits perfectly with how evil likes to hide itself by being only “unmasked” when it is read or said backward. Like the word “evil” itself is “live” backward. So we have “Live from New York , it’s Saturday Night Live” translated to mean “Evil from 666, it’s Saturday Night Evil”.
Some names that are not quite 666 but 660 as in “Adolph Hitler”. However if you add the number of 6 for satan and his influence on a man, then one gets to 666. Interestingly, “Hitler” in ASCII code equals 616 which is the number some translations of the Greek used instead of 666.
There is even an internet online calculator that uses this A=6, B=12 code. It has also been pointed out by another on Five Doves last January that “George Walker Bush” equaling 1062 in this code. And that by rearranging 1062 one can get the number 216. But as I’ve commented before, it takes quite a lot of manipulation to get to 216. It takes no manipulation to get to 216 with “barack”.
One objection raised for this code is that it can’t represent all numbers but just every 6th number. True. But we don’t need to use this code for counting with the alphabet. We have numbers. So really the code A=1, B=2, C=3, etc. when equal to 111 is the same as the previous code equaling 666. That does not mean the code is not valid. It just means that multiplying by 6 is required to take the “preimage” number such as 74, and turn it into the “image” number which we can recognize, which in this case would be 444.
One could also object regarding using the current Greek Gematria to find 666 because it skips the assigning of a letter of the Greek alphabet to the number 6. There is only an obsolete letter that is no longer used that has the number value of 6.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_alphabet
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false prophet Ron Reese escaped again - still claims the tribulation began on october 29, 2008 when obama had an infomercial

false prophet Ron Reese is one fruitcake of a false prophet. he is still calling everyone who believes in a pre tribulation rapture an idiot because, he claims, the tribulation began on october 29, 2008 when obama had an infomercial and "confirmed the covenant with many"

false prophet Ron Reese claims the agreement of the false prophets equals a "confirmation" Obviously he does not know what the word 'CONFIRM' means

false prophet Ron Reese is a FRUITCAKE. he does not know what the bible says (while claiming to teach what the "hidden messages" in it says)

The bible says the antimessiah will be called 'The assyrian' and will be the leader of the roman empire (likely the club of rome) and yet false prophet Ron Reese is saying to throw out the "pre conceived ideas" (ie: the bible) of who the antimessiah is.

false prophet Ron Reese is one of the most deluded and demon possessed false prophets on the five demons web site.

Daniel 9
27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him

When in obama's infomercial did he make a covenant for 'one seven' (ie: seven years) ???

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2008/ronr1213.htm
Ron Reese (13 Dec 2008) "Becky's vision of Obama was the Oct. 29, 2008, confirming of the covenant on TV"
Hi John and Doves, I hope and pray that you all noticed that the vision that Becky V was describing was EXACTLY what took place on Oct. 29, 2008, when Obama was seen on millions and millions of TV sets. Becky said that Obama was RALLYING THE PEOPLE, and the Lord was showing her instantly that Obama was the Antichrist. Becky, I want you to know that without a doubt, this vision was from the Lord. This happened EXACTLY as you described it on Oct. 29, 2008. This was THE DAY that Obama was revealed to many with spiritual discernment as the Antichrist. The confirming of the covenant of Daniel 9:27 has ALWAYS been looked upon as the ONE EVENT that would put the world into the 70th Week of Daniel. John Tng was shown the extreme importance of the date of Oct. 29, 2008, when the Lord helped him solve the great mystery of the $2.34. The week before Oct. 29, 2008, Ted Porter, Jerry Grenough, and others were writing posts on 5 Doves about the extreme importance and significance of the date of Oct. 29, 2008. For those of you who have not read my posts of Nov. 6 and Nov. 7, please read them to discover how Obama was revealed as the Antichrist on the EXACT DATE THAT HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE REVEALED--ON OCT. 29, 2008. There were numerous signs and timelines pointing to Oct. 29, 2008, through Feast of Atonement, Sept. 23, 2015 as the 2520 days of the 70th week of Daniel. The Lord has now convinced several Doves of what actually took place that day. Then the Lord revealed to me that the 30 minutes ( the EXACT length of Obama's speech to millions and millions) of silence in Heaven, was the mystery seal judgment that began the Final 7 Years. You can read all about this on my posts of Dec. 1 and Dec. 2. I have had SEVERAL confirmations of these revelations, most of them supernatural, from the Lord. Now the Lord has chosen to give this young lady FURTHER confirmation to all Doves with this vision that Obama was revealed to many Christians as the Antichrist, when millions of TV sets were tuned in to watch him RALLY THE PEOPLE ON OCT. 29, 2008, BY CONFIRMING THE COVENANT OF DANIEL 9:27 ON THE EXACT DAY THAT THE ANTICHRIST WAS SUPPOSED TO DO THAT. DO NOT LET YOUR PRE-CONCEIVED IDEAS ABOUT A RAPTURE BEFORE THE 70TH WEEK OF DANIEL, OR WHERE THE ANTICHRIST HAS TO COME FROM, OR A 7-YEAR PEACE TREATY WITH ISRAEL AND OTHER NATIONS, KEEP YOUR FROM SEEING WHAT THE LORD OUR GOD DID ON THIS ALL-IMPORTANT DAY!!! You may choose to stay steadfast in your pre-conceived ideas if you desire. But I am here to tell you that I have NO doubt that THE COVENANT OF DANIEL 9:27 IS NOT A FUTURE EVENT, IT IS NOW A PAST EVENT. Now that we have entered the 70th week of Daniel, I believe the rest of the seal judgments and trumpet judgments are about to fall on an unsuspecting world. It is my opinion that the Rapture/Sudden Destruction will bring about these judgments, probably within the next 6 months, and quite possibly in the next 30 days. I am asking some of you Doves who are in agreement with me about Oct. 29, 2008, to voice that opinion in the next few days with a post on 5 Doves. Several of you have written a personal email to me expressing your agreement. It is not that I need your support, because I KNOW what the Lord has shown me. The Lord gave the date of Oct. 29, 2008, to the moderator of this site, John Tng. Jimmy Lishman, has expressed his agreement on this site. Now, this vision of Becky's has further confirmed that Oct. 29, 2008, was the key date. The more eyes that can be opened to the truth about this world entering into the 70th Week of Daniel on Oct. 29, 2008, the more people we can warn about what lies straight ahead in the VERY NEAR FUTURE! We are no longer just getting close. WE ARE THERE!!! I would encourage several of you to re-read my posts of Nov. 6 and Nov. 7, 2008, and read them prayerfully, and ask our Lord to reveal to you the truth. Thank you, Becky, for sharing your vision with us at Five Doves. It was something many Doves needed to hear. Your sharing of this vision will open more eyes to the truth, which our Lord is trying to make known to all of us. Ron Reesergreese49@aol.com
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false prophet Calvin W. Montgomery agrees with the other false prophets

false prophet Calvin W. Montgomery agrees with all of the false prophets on the five demons ("doves") web site and with the interpreting of omens - so G-d calls Calvin W. Montgomery DETESTABLE to Him. false prophet Calvin W. Montgomery also claims an angel visits him - yet there is no proof that this is an angel from G-d and all the reason to believe (if it even happened) that it was a demon - since Calvin W. Montgomery follows false prophets and gives gives false prophecies himself.

Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "There shall not be found among you anyone who uses divination or who practices witchcraft or one who interprets omens or is a sorcerer or who casts a spell or is a medium or a spiritist or who calls up the dead. For whosoever does these things is detestable to the Lord."

The final line (PS) of false prophet Calvin W. Montgomery post states:

With the above knowledge of the heavenly and earthly signs (Ron's signs, etc.),
then, I believe someone "should" be able to come to a logical conclusion.

The logical conclusion is that the five deoves is a satanic site and those that are allowed to post there are false prophets and followers of the other false prophets that post there.


II Tim 4:3-4
For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

Matthew 7:21-23
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2008/calvinm125.htm

Calvin W. Montgomery (5 Dec 2008) "Comment on ALL and Ron Reese's EXCELLENT analogy!!!"
Comment on ALL and Ron Reese's EXCELLENT analogy!!!ALL: First of all, there is NO WAY that ANY of you could know what "has" gone on "internally" with me. For some reason, God has TOTALLY S-T-R-E-T-C-H-E-D me out to a point BEYOND myself. Even though I have been shown the "why's" of things happening, that does NOT make "things" easier, it seems, but I am NOT complaining because, it seems, you HAVE TO go "through" some difficulty in life in order to get the TRUE message. Look at Joseph's life and how it started out SO BADLY (sold into slavery, imprisoned for something he didn't do). And yet, Joseph (a "type" of Jesus), though interpreting the king's dream, PREPARED THE ENTIRE WORLD (at that time) FOR THE FAMINE WHICH WOULD LAST "7" YEARS. Anyway.....It is like I am trying to graduate from a Christian College in 3 days. They say when you die, your life comes CLEARLY before you. I know "about" things SO CLEARLY now. I can "see" things for the first time. I KNOW "my" mistakes. I can see my family's mistakes. I am being fast-forwarded through. When I received those 4 LOUD KNOCKS on my headboard shortly after MIDNIGHT (around 12:30 a.m.....about the time that I woke up this morning as well) on November 24th, I believe with those LOUD KNOCKS God was TELLING ME (through an angel) that things are HEATING UP and you need to write / be prepared to write / be prepared to "help" or "whatever". Since 2006, I have kept up with things by using a G-mail (google) account. It is like a personal library file and all I have to do is to put in a few key words and the posts where they have been used since 2006 will come up. I have told you about the supernatural experience which I had on June 27th, 2006 when I was concerned whether I was in God's will to move BACK to South Carolina from Mississippi. ...The day (during and after the 11 hour drive) about 3 months ago when ...I moved back to South Carolina from Mississippi, I determined to "listen" ...and just "see" if I was "REALLY" following / "hearing" correctly about my ..."call". It became QUITE evident after that day what I was supposed to do. ...It was EXTREMELY hot and humid when I arrived in the afternoon and I ...immediately unloaded and took a shower. As I lay down to rest, I simply ...hit the "on" on the TV remote. INSTANTLY, a program was JUST starting ...on the VERY channel (The History Channel) that the TV was already turned ...to. Not only was "Decoding the Prophecies of Israel" actually coming on ...at the very second that I turned on the TV, after my shower, it seems that ...it was the ONLY time that month that it came on:http://store.aetv.com/html/product/index.jhtml?id=74795 ...History Channel: "Decoding The Past Prophecies of Israel," ...Tuesday, June 27, @ 5pm ET ...At the VERY same time, a telemarketer (from the phone company we use) ...called and asked if I wanted to use "their" computer services. I had brought ...my computer with me and was "on line" shortly thereafter!!! Now, to comment on what Ron Reese has written. I read his comments (which will be posted today) entitled: DO WE REALLY HAVE ONLY 2 WEEKS LEFT BEFORE THE RAPTURE??? In his comments, he mentions his "watch" stopping at "11" minutes before "7". In a letter yesterday morning to Doug Corley, Ted Porter, and myself which was entitled simply, "6:49", he told us if we had any ideas to let him know. Ron wrote: ...Monday evening I was working overtime at work. I have had this watch for ...about a year and never had a problem with it. Never had to adjust the time ...or anything. I glanced at my watch and thought, "this is strange as it is the ...same time it was about 3 minutes ago". So I looked closer and it had ...stopped completely. It had stopped at 6:49 and then 5 minutes later at 6:54 it ...started up again all by itself. I did not shake it, or wind it, or anything. It has ...run perfectly ever since for the past 54 hours. I have not reset the time, so it ...still shows a time which is five minutes slow.I wrote back: ...Ron and ALL: ...Just looking at this, the number "7" is the number of spiritual completion, ...as you all know. ...Perhaps what God may be leading you to is some type of "END" such as ...this year, 2008. Would the "END" of 2008 be a completion similar to the ...number "7"? If so, then, would "11" days prior to the "END" of 2008 be ...anything to watch for (6:49 is 11 minutes prior to 7:00)? ...From: Monday, July 17, 2006 - 7.7 quake on 7/17 (2006)...To: Sunday, December 21, 2008...It is 888 daysI was noticing the word "WATCH FOR" which I used. That, IN ITSELF, is a sign - "WATCH" for!!! His "WATCH" was used to deliver the message!!! Ron Reese is a "WATCH"man!!! The "day of our "WATCH"men arrived as Obama was elected!!! ...Micah 7...4 The best of them is like a brier, ...the most upright worse than a thorn hedge. ...THE DAY OF YOUR WATCHMEN HAS COME, ...the day God visits you. ...Now is the time of their confusion. If you will NOTE, Ron's watch "STOPPED" for "5" minutes. The number "5" means GRACE. So........QUESTION: ...Just "WHEN" is a WARNING "MORE" than just a "simple" message? ANSWER: ...When it means, "YOUR TIME TO ESCAPE IS UP!!" Do "you" understand? Have you recently read Matthew 25 (or Matthew 24)? Below is THE most SOBERING testimony I have EVER heard regarding Matthew 24!!! TRULY INCREDIBLE!!!From YouTube: Prophetic Dream 12-16-2006http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KAXKO6FF-LM&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fpub48%2Ebravenet%2Ecom%2Fforum%2F4086901292%2Fshow%2F669011 You do NOT have to "like" me, "understand" me and you do NOT have to "like" or "understand" Ron Reese. That's NOT important. It seems God is TRYING to get a "word" out!!! "THAT" is important!!! As Ron's latest post states, ..."...my post of Nov. 17, which pointed to a possible Rapture/Sudden ...Destruction/Battle of Gog and Magog on Dec. 20-21 this year, and keeping ...in mind the many supernatural signs the Lord has been giving me...."And then he describes how "11" days PRIOR TO the "completion" (meaning of the number "7") of "2008" could be our "DATE". NO ONE of us knows for SURE, the date!!! But there "ARE" things we "SHOULD" be "NOTICING" (and probably whether we "feel" like it or NOT)!!!! ...From: Monday, July 17, 2006 - 7.7 quake on 7/17 (2006)...To: Sunday, December 21, 2008 ...It is 888 days...NOTE: December 20 is "11" days prior to the end of 2008....December 20 is "inclusively" 888 days from the NOAH "type" quake of 2006...888 is the Greek Gematria of Jesus...Magnitude 7.7 - SOUTH OF JAVA, INDONESIAhttp://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/eqinthenews/2006/usqgaf/ ...2006 July 17 08:19:28 UTC...Parameters Nst=234, Nph=234NOTE the parameters (like birth pangs) of this quake. MUCH MORE to do with the number 234 (John Tng's article, etc.) has been discovered since!!! ...From: Tues., June 8, 2004 - RARE Transit of Venus (3 days after Reagan's death)...To: Mon., Dec. 1, 2008 - Moon / Jupiter / Venus on 12/1 (Dan. 12:1 and Rev. 12:1)...Or, inclusively, 234 weeks...December 1st was the first day of the 49th ("the Son of Man") week of 2008Venus Planetary TransitJune 8, 2004 Planetary TransitFrom NASA, for About.comhttp://space.about.com/cs/spaceevents/a/venustransit04.htm John Tng (22 Nov 2008) "Has the Penny Finally Dropped?"http://www.fivedoves.com/rapture/2008/rapture2008_234.htmlGOD BLESS!!!Calvin PS: With the above knowledge of the heavenly and earthly signs (Ron's signs, etc.), then, I believe someone "should" be able to come to a logical conclusion.
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