pagan Gary Newman consults false christian-pretender false prophet numerologists.

God forbids numerology which is defined as:

 nu·mer·ol·o·gy 
-------the study of numbers, as the figures designating the year of one's birth, to determine their supposed influence on one's life, future, etc.

 Yet pagan Gary Newman is consulting the false prophets that masquerade as Christians on the five demons ("doves") web site asking the meaning of the number 8887 which he saw on a login counter on a web site.  Obviously the meaning of the number is that he was the 8887 visitor although he seems to think there is a "message from God" in the number.  Numerology is forbidden by God yet it is acceptable on the five demons ("doves") web site meaning the five demons ("doves") web site is a site of false prophets.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2010/garyn1224.htm


Gary Newman (24 Dec 2010)
"Query for the numerists"

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Hi Doves;

While trying to view the lunar eclipse online, I got onto
a site which actually wasn't showing the live event.
I wasn't going to post this thinking it rather trivial, but
I am really bothered that I really need to what a number
means. The number was the number of people logged
into the site.

The number was: 8887

I would value your thoughts on the meaning of this
number.

Maranatha

Gary

Five Demons ("doves") will post any false prophecy from any false prophet - here is PROOF!

The five demons ("doves") web site is full of false prophets and false prophecies.  All of them are unrepentant when their prophecies fail and even blame God for their failure.

Here is a blatantly false prophecy that the five demons ("doves") web site owner, John Tng, has no problem posting.  It is somebody who claims God speaks to her through numbers on a clock.

Nowhere in the bible does God give someone a message that is not explained to them if it is not clear.  God has not spoken to this person.  They are just guilty of staring at a clock and claiming the numbers on the clock were a secret message given to them by God.

Anyone who believes this false prophet and their false prophecies deserves to be deceived.

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2010/danab1223.htm



Dana Babka (23 Dec 2010)
"More clock numbers from the Lord."

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Hi Doves, the Lord gave me more numbers from my clock on the 21st.  So here they are , 2:/5 7   2:/5/8  2:/5/9 ,  (3:00)  (3:01) ,   3:/02  3:/03  3:/04  , (3:/05) (3:06) (3:07) (3:08) (3:09) (3:10) (3:11),      3:/1/2 ,     (3:13) (3:14) (3:15) (3:16) (3:17) (3:18) (3:19),    3:/20  3:/21  3:/22  3:/23  3:/24  3:/25  3:/26  3:/27  (3:28)  (3:29) (3:30)      3:/3/1  .  After grouping the times and prayer,counting them and going to a few web sites on biblical numbers, I believe this is what the Lord was telling me. That the resurrection of the dead in Christ, and the unity of the Church believers, will be with our loving Jesus.  The believers will be separated  and removed from the weakness of man, the World Government, Antichrist, and the Great Tribulation. The two witnesses will give testimony of Jesus to the Jews and to those who will listen, and they will be able to find salvation in Jesus Christ. At the end of the Tribulation the sin in the world will end, and complete victory will belong to the Lord.  The very first number the Lord gave to me was 2:/5 7 . Notice 25 which I believe is confirming the postings of 16th and the 20th, there is also the number 7.  I believe that something significant will take place on the 25th or before, and the Rapture is at the top of the list.  Keep looking up, praise the Lord.              Dana.

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False Prophet ron reese admits to being a false prophet - yet continues his false prophecies

False prophet ron reese continues to spew false prophecies and claims his "fleece" of a UPS truck in his driveway (when he was expecting a UPS delivery) is a "sign" the rapture will occur in 2010.  This is the same false prophet who claimed God confirmed to him that the rapture was going to be on January 11, 2009 while claiming that we were in the tribulation. http://falseprophetwatch.blogspot.com/2009/03/false-prophet-ron-reese-is-back.html

I am simply tired of being slammed heavily for suggested possible time frames, that do not pan out.  Having said that, I am extremely excited about a date in the very near future--the date of Dec. 21, 2010.  I have to share this with someone

False prophet ron reese still has a following after years and years of being a false prophet.  The question I ask:  Lord, how long will the people who claim to be yours follow the false prophets?


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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2010/ronr127.htm
Ron Reese (7 Dec 2010)
"My last 2010 attempt at the Rapture/Sudden Destruction Date--Dec. 21, 2010"

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A MESSAGE FROM THE HEART


Hi Fellow Watchmen,  This email is only going to a VERY SELECT FEW, perhaps one or two dozen people.  The reason is that I am simply tired of being slammed heavily for suggested possible time frames, that do not pan out.  Having said that, I am extremely excited about a date in the very near future--the date of Dec. 21, 2010.  I have to share this with someone.

The day of Tues., Nov. 30th, I was crying out to the Lord, "How long, oh Lord, how long?"  I seldom ask the Lord this because I start thinking, "Who am I, that the Lord should reveal the answer to the question of the ages?"  And also, I am afraid of incorrectly discerning what He might be telling me, so I rarely ask the Lord this question directly.  Having said that, I honestly feel in my heart, that He MAY be giving me the answer.

First of all, I threw out a fleece to the Lord in the early summer of this year, that if the Rapture/SD was going to be in 2010, then have the UPS delivery truck drive into my driveway, at the same moment in time that I was departing from my home, or the same moment in time that I was to be returning home.  50,000 "business" cards, with my website and Sudden Destruction info on them, had just been printed at no cost to me and were being shipped to me free.  I expected them either to arrive on Friday or Saturday.  This was on a Friday, when I had three to four hours of errands to run in Jackson, Michigan, about 20 miles away.  I never receive anything from UPS.  I had no idea of their schedule.  I was not even sure that Friday was the day of the delivery of these cards.

I left for town around 10 in the morning.  No UPS delivery truck.  I totally forgot about my fleece to the Lord.  I had a couple of loads in my car to unload when I got back home a few hours later in the afternoon.  I took the first load, and set it inside the door of my house, and turned around to go back to my car, when, lo, and behold, a UPS delivery truck was driving up my driveway!!!  I have only thrown out fleeces a handful of times in my life, and those are for MAJOR reasons, and the Lord has honored every single one.  I WAS TOTALLY AMAZED, AS I WATCHED THAT UPS TRUCK DRIVING UP THE DRIVEWAY.  I HONESTLY FELT, AND STILL FEEL, THAT THE LORD WAS TELLING ME THAT 2010 IS THE YEAR!!!!!!

Now along comes Nov. 30th of 2010, and still no Rapture/Sudden Destruction.  All day long, my heart was crying out to the Lord, "How long, oh Lord, how long?"  Knowing that Hanukkah was Dec. 2nd thru the 9th, and the prophetic implications of this Jewish holiday, I was considering this possibility, but not really feeling confident about this time frame.  The days for 2010 are running out.  What other time could it be in December?

I had been feeling the presence of the Holy Spirit that day of Nov. 30th.  I do not usually watch a lot of Christian TV programs, but that night I was feeling that I should.  At the end of Dr. Reagan's Prophecy program, he had a man sing my all-time favorite Christian song, entitled, "The Midnight Cry".  I had not heard that song for a few years, and tears started flowing down my face.  As I closed my eyes and visualized the Rapture, that was being described in great detail, in that song, the tears became uncontrollable.  I went to bed a few minutes later, with the presence and the comfort of the Holy Spirit still laying heavily upon me.

I awoke for the first time that morning of Dec. 1st, a few hours after my weeping encounter with God, at 5:43 a.m.  I immediately wondered if the Lord was trying to get my attention, with those numbers, because just hours before, I had been crying out to the Lord, "How long, oh Lord, how long?"  My first thought was that maybe this was some sort of a countdown of 5--4--3..  All day long, on Dec. 1st, I was asking the Lord, if this is a countdown, and an answer to my prayer of "How long?", then are we talking years, months, weeks, or days?  I did not receive any answers.

The next morning, Dec. 2nd, I AGAIN woke for the first time from a very sound sleep, for no apparent reason, at EXACTLY 5:43 A.M, THE EXACT SAME TIME.   NOW THE LORD DEFINITELY HAD MY ATTENTION!!!  5..4..3..  For the next two days, I was trying to discern, that if this double reading of 5..4..3.. is from the Lord, and is a countdown, what is the starting time of the countdown, and is it years, months, weeks, or days?

If it is years, then I feel the countdown started in 2008, the year of the start of the Final 7 Years, and the year that the Lord began to deal with me with revelations, and supernatural confirmations, unlike anything that I have ever experienced.   FIVE (2008)  FOUR (2009)  THREE (2010)  TWO (2011) AND ONE, THE FINAL YEAR WOULD BE 2012.  April 11, 2012, is the beginning of the 1260-day Great Tribulation, and the latest that the Rapture/Sudden Destruction will take place, in my opinion.  However, this would mean that my fleece concerning 2010 being the correct year of the Rapture is not valid, and the 2 Years into the Famine Week of Joseph in Gen. 45 also is not valid.  I am not willing to accept either at this point.

If it is months, then I feel the countdown started either in Sept., the start of the Fall Feast Days and the Jewish New Year, or Oct., the month of the Noah and the Great Flood days.  This would mean the countdown of 5..4..3.. in months, would take us to either Jan. or Feb., of 2011.  Another possibility is that the month countdown could have started on Dec. 1st, the day that I first awakened at 5:43.  This would take us to April of 2011, into the Spring Feast Days.  This also would mean that my fleece concerning 2010 being the correct year is not valid.  I feel that the 2 Years into the Famine Week of Joseph in Gen. 45, would still be valid during any of these months.

If it is in days, then the five-day countdown is about over, as I write this email, with one day to go.  Tomorrow, Dec. 5th is a new moon, and is right in the middle of Hanukkah, just like Jesus represents the middle candlestick in the Menorrah.  The Rapture/SD could be tomorrow, but I do not feel this is what the Lord is showing to me.

That leaves only weeks, for the last possibility.  One possibility is that Dec. 1st is the start of a five-week countdown, which could culminate with the Rapture/SD in the first week of January, 2011.  I am amazed that the first sighting on my clock of  5..4..3.. was on Dec. 1st, as this is the EXACT TWO-YEAR anniversary date, that my perfectly good watch stopped for five minutes at 11 minutes to 7, on Dec. 1, 2008.  This is another good reason why I feel this MAY be from the Lord.

If this is a weekly countdown, I believe it is a 3-week countdown, not a 5-week countdown.  I believe the 5..4..3.. means that as of Dec. 1, 2010, we may have just started a three-week countdown, which could culminate in the Rapture/Sudden Destruction, that we all have been anxiously anticipating, for so very long.  I believe in my spirit, that DEC. 21, 2010, IS A DEFINITE HIGH RAPTURE ALERT DAY!!!  Please consider the following:

I had already known that Dec. 21, 2010, is the winter solistice, and a full moon, and A TOTAL LUNAR ECLIPSE.  Today I remembered that Dec. 21, 2012, is the much-talked-about Mayan calendar date, which would make Dec. 21, 2010, EXACTLY two years away.  I almost always get a good night's sleep, but last night, I was tossing and turning, and seeking the Lord again for confirmation of Dec. 21, 2010, as possibly being the correct day.  The thought suddenly hit me that we should be looking for possible Sudden Destruction days, as this will be the same day as the Rapture.  Then I remembered Thomas Horn's book,  "Apollyon Rising 2012", that I had read earlier this year.  This is an eye-opening, and very enlightening book, on the year 2012, and how EVERYTHING is pointing to that year.

What I began to contemplate in the middle of last night, was that this was going to be a PLANNED Sudden Destruction, by the Satanic New World Order elite, and that undoubtedly the DAY of this Planned Sudden Destruction would have occultic significance. I was tossing numbers around in my head for about an hour.  I am extremely excited at what I came up with.  Already we can determine that if 12--21--2010 is the date of the Rapture/Sudden Destruction, then it could be very significant that the NWO elite would choose the same day of the year, Dec. 21st, that is being projected as a day of great calamity on the earth, Dec. 21, 2012.

Also, consider the following:  12--21--2010, is written 12--21--21 in Bible numbers, as zeroes are not included.  In most countries, the day is written first, then the month, then the year, which would make Dec. 21, 2010, read 21--12--21.  Notice the symmetry, but also take careful note of this.  The first two numbers add to 33.  The last two numbers add to 33.  So, we have 3333 or 33.33.  Please consider carefully what Thomas Horn writes in his Prophecy book of the year.  On page 324, he states, "33.33 IS THE ULTIMATE NUMBER OF EARTHLY LUCIFERIAN GOVERNMENT."

So, obviously there are not 33 days in any month, or 33 months in any year.  So, they cannot choose a day for their PLANNED Sudden Destruction, using the number 33 or 33.33 directly.  12--21--2010 would seem like their best alternative.  IS 12--21--2010 THE DAY OF THE PLANNED SUDDEN DESTRUCTION BY THE NEW WORLD ORDER ELITE???  IS THIS THE DAY THE WORLDWIDE CHAOS LEADS TO THE EARTHLY LUCIFERIAN GOVERNMENT???  I would like to remind you that the Millennium is scheduled to begin in December, of 2015, which is FIVE YEARS FROM NOW.  Is this the day of our Great Deliverance that is mentioned in Gen. 45, when Joseph (Jesus) make himself known to his brethren?  The Great Revealing and the Great Deliverance take place TWO YEARS INTO THE FAMINE WEEK, WITH FIVE YEARS YET REMAINING IN THE FAMINE WEEK.

I threw out another fleece this morning to the Lord, asking that there be a new email in my inbox, referring to the number 21, if the Rapture/SD is going to take place on Dec. 21, 2010.  I was once again amazed, as there were only six or seven new emails, since I had checked late last night.  In my inbox, was a new email, from Calvin Montgomery, entitled, "Darkness, and the number 21" (emphasis mine).  What are the odds that this could be a coincidence?  If Dec. 21, 2010, is the time of the Sudden Destruction/Rapture, it will truly be a very, very dark day for humanity, possibly represented by the total lunar eclipse on the very same day, as well as the darkness of the catastrophic Sudden Destruction.  Suddenly, it dawned on me that the 5..4..3.. should be followed by a 2 and a 1, 2..1.  There it is again, the number 21, possibly representing the 21st of December, 2010.

Here is what Ed Vallowe says in his book, "Biblical Mathematics", "THE NUMBER 21 ALWAYS REVEALS THE EXCEEDING SINFULNESS OF MAN."  WOW!!!  How extremely appropriate this could be, as the exceeding sinfulness of the NWO elite would be revealed in the Sudden Destruction of unparalled magnitude, on the 21st day of December, 2010, the very same day of the year when the whole world is expecting something extremely significant and destructive EXACTLY two years later on Dec. 21, 2012.

12/21/2010 is also on a Tuesday, the day of the week that the bridegroom comes for the bride.  I trust that you can see why the conclusion of this email can be none other than DECEMBER 21, 2010, IS A HIGH RAPTURE/SUDDEN DESTRUCTION ALERT DAY!!!

I have not yet decided if I want to post this email on Five Doves and to my entire mailing list.  I am seeking your reaction and input, positive or negative.  I am also seeking any more info, or input, that might be leading us to Dec. 21, 2010.  I am requesting that this email not be forwarded, unless I decide to post it.

I am still not sure if the Lord wants us to be able to determine the exact day, or just the approximate time frame.  If we are able to discern the actual day, at this point in time, in my opinion, Dec. 21, 2010, is the most likely time.

Maranatha!

Ron Reese
rgreese49@aol.com

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